Re: [MBZ] Glow plugs loop style

2021-08-03 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
Do the other things I suggested first — see if it actually closes when you (or someone else) turns the key. If it does check to see if any electrons are flowing through it (if fuse isn’t good). If not push it closed and see if electrons flow. If no electrons flow, clean the Contacts. If it

Re: [MBZ] Glow plugs loop style

2021-08-03 Thread Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes
Thanks guys. I will try cleaning the points! Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 3, 2021, at 7:14 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes > wrote: > > Exactly! If you want to get fancy, close the points with your finger and > check the resistance with a meter across them. Should be 0 or nearly 0. > If

Re: [MBZ] Glow plugs loop style

2021-08-03 Thread Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes
Exactly! If you want to get fancy, close the points with your finger and check the resistance with a meter across them. Should be 0 or nearly 0. If it's higher, from a few ohms up to no connection, that's your issue. Check again after cleaning. Jaime On Mon, Aug 2, 2021 at 10:42 PM Dimitri

Re: [MBZ] Glow plugs loop style

2021-08-03 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
It’s a common “cube” style relay as I recall. You can remove it and carefully pry the cover off with a small flat blade screwdriver to expose the armature and contacts. Clean the contacts with some emery cloth and DeOxIt or other suitable contact cleaner, then install it with the cover off so

Re: [MBZ] Glow plugs loop style

2021-08-02 Thread Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes
After I pry open as Jaime suggested? Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 2, 2021, at 9:03 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes > wrote: > > Have someone turn the key while you watch the relay to see if it closes. If > it closes then check the contacts to see if they are corroded. If it doesn’t >

Re: [MBZ] Glow plugs loop style

2021-08-02 Thread Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes
Is this like points or something? Forgive me for my ignorance! Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 2, 2021, at 9:11 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes > wrote: > > Pry the relay open and clean the contacts with emery cloth and deoxit. > Thats most likely the issue. > > Jaime > > >> On Mon, Aug 2,

Re: [MBZ] Glow plugs loop style

2021-08-02 Thread Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes
Pry the relay open and clean the contacts with emery cloth and deoxit. Thats most likely the issue. Jaime On Mon, Aug 2, 2021 at 2:31 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > My brother’s 78 240D with series type plugs doesn’t start without > excessive cranking. The

Re: [MBZ] Glow plugs loop style

2021-08-02 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
Have someone turn the key while you watch the relay to see if it closes. If it closes then check the contacts to see if they are corroded. If it doesn’t close push it closed and see if that sends electrons to the glow plugs. --FT Sent from iPhone > On Aug 2, 2021, at 2:31 PM, Dimitri

Re: [MBZ] Glow plugs loop style

2021-08-02 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
What's the cost of the kit to upgrade to the newer parallel style?  Kit includes the new relay and plugs. Max Dillon Charleston SC Aug 2, 2021 2:31:30 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes : > My brother’s 78 240D with series type plugs doesn’t start without excessive > cranking. The strip fuse

Re: [MBZ] Glow plugs loop style

2021-08-02 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> Is it reasonable to assume [relay’s] bad at this point? Can it be tested? Yes, and yes. Also yes, it can sometimes be repaired. Re-soldering and possibly replacing internal capacitors can do wonders for these middle-aged electronics. I've resurrected numerous such items in the past. For

Re: [MBZ] Glow plugs loop style

2021-08-02 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Since a relay is a pretty simple electrical switch that uses a small current to close a larger circuit [ie starter solenoid] how about just finding an off the shelf relay that has the same values for both the low circuit and the high power circuit? I wager the glow plugs don't care as long as they

[MBZ] Glow plugs loop style

2021-08-02 Thread Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes
My brother’s 78 240D with series type plugs doesn’t start without excessive cranking. The strip fuse appears intact, the plugs as well but we replaced them for good measure. Turns out there appears to be no power to the strip fuse so I’m guessing the relay is bad? I don’t want to just throw