Re: [MBZ] High temp, bad sender?

2012-08-16 Thread Curt Raymond
at about 90C until I ran the AC. I'll call that one a win. The best kind of fixes are the kind that cost nothing. -Curt Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 20:29:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] High temp, bad sender

Re: [MBZ] High temp, bad sender?

2012-08-15 Thread MG
Ah yes. My apologies. Getting to the point where I can't seem to remember everything. Or maybe that should be anything. Manfred Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 18:29:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] High temp, bad sender? You missed my original message

Re: [MBZ] High temp, bad sender?

2012-08-15 Thread Dan Penoff
It should. The sender is nothing more than a thermistor that changes resistance as the temperature increases or decreases. That being the case, if you ground the wire to the sender I would expect the gauge to go full scale. Dan On Aug 14, 2012, at 9:56 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com

Re: [MBZ] High temp, bad sender?

2012-08-15 Thread Curt Raymond
the fan clutch clunk. Tonight I will look for a third sensor where you describe. -Curt Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 20:29:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] High temp, bad sender? Message-ID

Re: [MBZ] High temp, bad sender?

2012-08-15 Thread Craig
On Wed, 15 Aug 2012 07:07:41 -0700 (PDT) Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Hmmm, 3 sensors then? Actually, two thermal switches and one sensor. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] High temp, bad sender?

2012-08-14 Thread Curt Raymond
Subject: Re: [MBZ] High temp, bad sender? Message-ID: 1344886000.47142.yahoomail...@web125005.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Curt. I think that I have a few spare senders, send me your addy off list and i send you one. Or wait for The Chowdah Q. I'll check

Re: [MBZ] High temp, bad sender?

2012-08-14 Thread Curt Raymond
. -Curt Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 14:40:28 -0500 From: Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] High temp, bad sender? Message-ID: 20120813144028.378ccc72.fmi...@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Curt Raymond wrote: Rats, I

Re: [MBZ] High temp, bad sender?

2012-08-14 Thread Curt Raymond
@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] High temp, bad sender? Message-ID: 134403.30997.yahoomail...@web125003.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Curt, et al. I was wrong, again! The sensor near the the thermostat is for the aux. fan. The engine thermometer for the gauge

Re: [MBZ] High temp, bad sender?

2012-08-14 Thread David Bruckmann
Could be a bad instrument cluster ground. Does the temp gauge fluctuate when you use turn signals or turn on the headlights? On 2012-08-14, Curt wrote: I'm starting to think a (still) dirty connection. Car sits for a week, temp gauge skyrockets, car gets driven 4 days in a row, temp gauge

Re: [MBZ] High temp, bad sender?

2012-08-14 Thread Curt Raymond
...@transcontinental.ca To: mercedes@okiebenz.com mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] High temp, bad sender? Message-ID: f422b909-5e4c-465c-997d-617273d86...@transcontinental.ca Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii Could be a bad instrument cluster ground. Does the temp gauge fluctuate when you use turn

Re: [MBZ] High temp, bad sender?

2012-08-14 Thread Frederick Moir
Will do.   Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2012 9:21 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] High temp, bad sender? Strangely today it was pretty good all the way

Re: [MBZ] High temp, bad sender?

2012-08-14 Thread MG
Just got a thought on this. If the thermostat is old then it might be an idea to change it. Sounds like it might be sticking till it gets exercised a bit. May decide to stay closed soon. Manfred On 2012-08-14, Curt wrote: I'm starting to think a (still) dirty connection. Car sits for a

Re: [MBZ] High temp, bad sender?

2012-08-14 Thread Curt Raymond
Aug 2012 17:30:28 -0400 From: MG trainpain2...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] High temp, bad sender? Message-ID: 502ac374.4060...@yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Just got a thought on this. If the thermostat

Re: [MBZ] High temp, bad sender?

2012-08-14 Thread Curt Raymond
The continuing saga: I wondered if grounding one end would send the temp gauge high so I took a jumper wire out with me. Fred had it backwards, the passenger side temp sensor is in charge of the aux fan, the top side one is for the electo-magnetic fan clutch. I can actuate either by grounding

Re: [MBZ] High temp, bad sender?

2012-08-14 Thread Frederick Moir
: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2012 9:56 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] High temp, bad sender? The continuing saga: I wondered if grounding one end would send the temp gauge high so I took a jumper wire out with me. Fred had it backwards

Re: [MBZ] High temp, bad sender?

2012-08-13 Thread Curt Raymond
fredy4.s...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] High temp, bad sender? Message-ID: 1344828248.37192.yahoomail...@web125001.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Curt, et al. The 601/602 engine thermometer sender

Re: [MBZ] High temp, bad sender?

2012-08-13 Thread Frederick Moir
mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, August 13, 2012 2:41 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] High temp, bad sender? Rats, I was hoping for an easy answer. Its a resistance device? I should be able to take a reading there. It'd be awesome if the FSM had a chart. I'll need to find my copy of the FSM. Rusty's

Re: [MBZ] High temp, bad sender?

2012-08-13 Thread Fmiser
Curt Raymond wrote: Rats, I was hoping for an easy answer. I would be quite surprised if the metal next to the temp sensor was a different temperature than the sensor. So using your IR thermometer you should be able to prove the accuracy of the in-car measurement. Its a resistance device? I

Re: [MBZ] High temp, bad sender?

2012-08-13 Thread Frederick Moir
Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, August 13, 2012 2:41 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] High temp, bad sender? Rats, I was hoping for an easy answer. Its a resistance device? I should

Re: [MBZ] High temp, bad sender?

2012-08-13 Thread Craig
On Mon, 13 Aug 2012 13:13:23 -0700 (PDT) Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.com wrote: Reads 464 deg F at room temp and falls slowly from the heat of my hand. I think perhaps you mean 464 ohms at room temp ... Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and

Re: [MBZ] High temp, bad sender?

2012-08-13 Thread Frederick Moir
I'm so dumber than a doughnut!   Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. From: Craig diese...@pisquared.net To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, August 13, 2012 8:36 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] High temp, bad sender? On Mon, 13 Aug 2012 13:13:23 -0700 (PDT

[MBZ] High temp, bad sender?

2012-08-12 Thread Curt Raymond
Some of you may remember this game where my 190D temp gauge creeps up and down. Well the last 2 days its up (yeah I know, sell when its up ;) Anyway tonight we pulled in the driveway and I jumped out with my IR thermometer. The temp gauge read 100C or just above (meaning just above the line

Re: [MBZ] High temp, bad sender?

2012-08-12 Thread Max Dillon
My first guess is a bad ground in your instrument cluster. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or

Re: [MBZ] High temp, bad sender?

2012-08-12 Thread Frederick Moir
. From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2012 9:13 PM Subject: [MBZ] High temp, bad sender? Some of you may remember this game where my 190D temp gauge creeps up and down. Well the last 2 days its up (yeah I know, sell when its up