Re: [MBZ] OT: Mexicans

2016-06-10 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
Scott wrote: > ...They build wealth, demand their children get educated, and send their > grandkids to Stanford. I gotta see evidence for this concept. I realize I have been fed the same idiocy, but... I wonder. I believe most immigrants of history had to come with some significant coin.

Re: [MBZ] OT: Mexicans

2016-06-09 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
; From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of > Joel Cairo via Mercedes > Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2016 11:51 AM > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Cc: Joel Cairo <buggeredbenzm...@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Mexicans > > That is an excellent description

Re: [MBZ] OT: Mexicans

2016-06-08 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
I happen to have several business associates that are practicing lawyers, and on occasion enter into legal discussions on hypothetical legal issues.. One particular spirited discussion was centered around Jury Selection.. The hypothetical question was: Since a person is guaranteed speedy trial by

Re: [MBZ] OT: Mexicans

2016-06-08 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Jury selection would be OK if challenges were severely restricted. On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 2:42 PM, Joel Cairo via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Well, it is important in the courts that we have juries and jurists who > "look like us" from what I can tell of the current agitators, so

Re: [MBZ] OT: Mexicans

2016-06-08 Thread Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes
cedes Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2016 6:52 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Joel Cairo Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Mexicans Speaking of Mexicans, I note that The Don is being called a "racist" for his comments about a judge of Mexican heritage and some lawsuit or other. I did not realize ther

Re: [MBZ] OT: Mexicans

2016-06-08 Thread Joel Cairo via Mercedes
Well, it is important in the courts that we have juries and jurists who "look like us" from what I can tell of the current agitators, so I think you are onto something. Here in Charleston there are a coupla cases of white men allegedly shooting black people, and the local people of color are

Re: [MBZ] OT: Mexicans

2016-06-08 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Well, I guess the only judge who could even remotely be "fair" to Trump is a wasp billionaire. On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 2:04 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: > Interesting line of thought.. > > The word "Mexican" is a word devised by the Castilian Spanish "pure breds" > that

Re: [MBZ] OT: Mexicans

2016-06-08 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Interesting line of thought.. The word "Mexican" is a word devised by the Castilian Spanish "pure breds" that conquered the Native Lands now called "Mexico". These pure bred Spaniards came with their weapons, soldiers, and a Royal Edict from the King of Spain, to grab all the gold and silver for

Re: [MBZ] OT: Mexicans

2016-06-08 Thread Joel Cairo via Mercedes
This whole "race" thing in regards to Mexicans or others from SOTB is kinda interesting. For example, a friend of mine is married to a woman whose family are Mexican-(US)American but are Irish/mestizo, she has an Irish surname, some ancestors having settled in Mexico at some point and spoke

Re: [MBZ] OT: Mexicans

2016-06-08 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
LSM [Lame Stream Media] has made this a "race issue" because it serves their masters.. It ain't true. Here is the issue that Trump actually raised. 1. The Judge is a member of a group of lawyers in California that advocate for and represent, La Raza, [translation "The Race"] which is a

Re: [MBZ] OT: Mexicans

2016-06-08 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
eredbenzm...@gmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 8, 2016 12:39 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Mexicans Yeah apparently that stuff is coming out, that the judge is somehow associated with La Raza ("The Race") which itself seems to be razaist.  But that doesn't matter because The Don is a Repub

Re: [MBZ] OT: Mexicans

2016-06-08 Thread Joel Cairo via Mercedes
Yeah apparently that stuff is coming out, that the judge is somehow associated with La Raza ("The Race") which itself seems to be razaist. But that doesn't matter because The Don is a Repub (or so he says) so he is automatically a razaist for even pointing that out. The Don should start a

Re: [MBZ] OT: Mexicans

2016-06-08 Thread rogerhga--- via Mercedes
IF you look at the judge and look at the interview Trump did, it's not stupid at all. Some may not like it, but that's up to each...some people still think Hillary is honest and that is really stupid. Anyway, I don't care about the generation, look at the judge's association with the La Raza

Re: [MBZ] OT: Mexicans

2016-06-08 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
m: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Max Dillon via Mercedes Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2016 5:10 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List<mercedes@okiebenz.com> Cc: Max Dillon<dillonm...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Mexicans Yes! Individual ownership of property i

Re: [MBZ] OT: Mexicans

2016-06-08 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
om> Sent: Wednesday, June 8, 2016 9:51 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Mexicans Speaking of Mexicans, I note that The Don is being called a "racist" for his comments about a judge of Mexican heritage and some lawsuit or other.  I did not realize there was a Mexican race, other than

Re: [MBZ] OT: Mexicans

2016-06-08 Thread Joel Cairo via Mercedes
Speaking of Mexicans, I note that The Don is being called a "racist" for his comments about a judge of Mexican heritage and some lawsuit or other. I did not realize there was a Mexican race, other than the Baja races. --JC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To

Re: [MBZ] OT: Mexicans

2016-06-07 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
> Max Dillon via Mercedes > Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2016 5:10 PM > To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > Cc: Max Dillon <dillonm...@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Mexicans > > Yes! Individual ownership of property is one of the key fa

Re: [MBZ] OT: Mexicans

2016-06-07 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Yes! Individual ownership of property is one of the key factors that has made America (the U. S. part) very wealthy compared to the rest of the world. The foundation of all wealth is land; free citizens who can create as much wealth as they like with their land and the fruits of their labor

Re: [MBZ] OT: Mexicans

2016-06-07 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
--R wrote: > ...not that it really mattered whether it was his or theirs. Does it really matter for USAmericans? Do we exist better because we really think it is our land? We think it is our land, or maybe we don't? taxes, rent, mortgage interest, etc. We think we have representative government

Re: [MBZ] OT: Mexicans

2016-06-07 Thread Joel Cairo via Mercedes
That is an excellent description that is somewhat similar to what my niece explained, but more detail of the colonial mindset. I can see that now. We were in Costa Rica 3 or 4 years ago, we stayed a night at a nice little hotel compound not far from the airport as we had an early flight out

Re: [MBZ] OT: Mexicans

2016-06-07 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Having spent much of my adult life traveling the world, with significant portion of that into SA, I'll throw in my 0.02 cents worth. All countries south of USA, Mexico included, are at their cultural foundation, based on the Spanish rule model. That Government model dictates there be an "Al

Re: [MBZ] OT: Mexicans now Peruvians

2016-06-07 Thread Joel Cairo via Mercedes
When we did the Machu Picchu tre 13 yr ago our guide was telling us that the Shining Path were still somewhat active in the mountains but that the Inca trail we were on was fairly safe. Some years prior the traffic had dropped considerably as they were around. I guess that was comforting

Re: [MBZ] OT: Mexicans

2016-06-07 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Peru is not such a bad place relative to other SA countries. The elder Fujimori, while not the most up front "president" was definitely better than your average SA dictator/despot. He did a lot for social causes and really went after the Shining Path (Maoist rebels) that terrorized the rural

Re: [MBZ] OT: Mexicans

2016-06-06 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
The Mexicans have a pretty inclusive school system that has an extremely powerful labor union, one of the strongest in the country. Unfortunately, like many organized labor groups, it’s rife with cronyism and graft. Dan > On Jun 6, 2016, at 7:07 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes >

Re: [MBZ] OT: Mexicans

2016-06-06 Thread Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes
going. Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Scott Ritchey via Mercedes Sent: Monday, June 06, 2016 2:33 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Scott Ritchey Subject: [MBZ] OT: Mexicans It has long seemed to me

Re: [MBZ] OT: Mexicans

2016-06-06 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
IN SHORT, MEXICO IS A SYSTEM OF FEUDAL LORDS. (Complicated by friction between the political lords and the drug lord...when there is a difference.) Joel Cairo via Mercedes June 6, 2016 at 4:52 PMvia Postbox

Re: [MBZ] OT: Mexicans

2016-06-06 Thread Joel Cairo via Mercedes
I asked my niece that question in reference to SA countries, but Mexico is similar enough. She was the resident expert on certain political and economic matters in a certain SA country for A Government Agency, so was probably as knowledgeable about such things as anyone could be. She has a

[MBZ] OT: Mexicans

2016-06-06 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
It has long seemed to me that there is no fundamental reason for Mexico to be less prosperous than the US. Mexicans are educated, at least to the point they are literate. They are hard-working. They have a strong family identity. They have great natural resources. They have a large country