Re: [MBZ] OT GUN definition and They took their ball and when home

2013-01-18 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Right exactly Sent from my iPhone On Jan 17, 2013, at 3:04 PM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: Point of order: True assault rifles ARE machine guns. But AR-15 (auto-loading) rifles/carbines are not assault rifles (nor are they heavy weapons as some insist). This is like

Re: [MBZ] OT GUN definition and They took their ball and when home

2013-01-17 Thread Jim Cathey
OK fair enough, you may replace 'assault rifle' with... Assault rifle _is_ an industry-recognized term, and with rare exceptions in the USA _nobody_ can have one. The banners coined the term assault weapon to apply to anything sufficiently 'scary' by their lights, and started using it heavily

Re: [MBZ] OT GUN definition and They took their ball and when home

2013-01-17 Thread G Mann
Sorry, respectfully I must not agree. The long description used below still ratchets the rhetoric to inflammatory rather than fact. The device is simply a rifle, nothing more, nothing less. To use any other descriptive term for it engages in fear mongering, which, in it's self is a continuation of

Re: [MBZ] OT GUN definition and They took their ball and when home

2013-01-17 Thread Curt Raymond
The M16 (and AR15 its civilian equivalent) gets shot out at 1000-2000 yards and is considered pretty accurate. The problem with assault rifle is what people really mean is scary rifle and they want to define it by I dunno but I'll know when I see it so an assault rifle ban means a ban on all

Re: [MBZ] OT GUN definition and They took their ball and when home

2013-01-17 Thread Rick Knoble
On Jan 17, 2013, at 10:35 AM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: Grant... -Off to practice cursing and find recipe for the eating of my young- If you want to be on the Banned List, you need to sign up. It is very much like how you signed up for this list. Sign up here then.

Re: [MBZ] OT GUN definition and They took their ball and when home

2013-01-17 Thread OK Don
Great ideas, but this is a VERY imperfect world. Very few of the people meeting the criteria that the recent evil doers meet actually commit violence. You catch and hold way too many to catch too few, and still don't know who is dangerous and who isn't. I suspect that it is true that the

Re: [MBZ] OT GUN definition and They took their ball and when home

2013-01-17 Thread Gerry Archer
This discussion takes me back to the 1930s when few ordinary city dwellers could afford guns and the debate was about knives. Some wanted to make it a crime to carry a pocket knife and others didn't. A compromise was finally reached that permitted the carrying of pocket knives with blades no

Re: [MBZ] OT GUN definition and They took their ball and when home

2013-01-17 Thread Scott Ritchey
Point of order: True assault rifles ARE machine guns. But AR-15 (auto-loading) rifles/carbines are not assault rifles (nor are they heavy weapons as some insist). This is like someone calling your 300TD a pickup truck because you can carry stuff in the back. -Original Message- From:

Re: [MBZ] OT GUN definition and They took their ball and when home

2013-01-16 Thread Hendrik and fay
OK fair enough, you may replace 'assault rifle' with 'somewhat high powered, semi automatic, self loading, large magazine capacity, similar to military type, not particularly accurate at longer distance, popular with preppers, type of rifle' Hendrik who is about to go out in the heat,

Re: [MBZ] OT GUN definition and They took their ball and when home

2013-01-16 Thread Rich Thomas
You forgot scary. They are also scary. --R (who was once assaulted by a scary exploding demon Milwaukee drill battery that decided to emit hydrogen and sparks inside its housing, with a predictable consequence -- hence, an assault battery committing assault and battery by battery) On

Re: [MBZ] OT GUN definition and They took their ball and when home

2013-01-16 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
More on this, I think the average low information person thinks assault riffles are machine guns. I heard one of them on the radio talking about these guns shooting 100 rounds a minute. Bzzt wrong Sent from my iPhone On Jan 16, 2013, at 10:08 PM, Hendrik and fay heni...@gmail.com wrote: OK