Re: [MBZ] OT Which Glock to buy?

2013-01-28 Thread Mitch Haley
Gerry Archer wrote: Good to know; thanks. I have an old single shot 12 ga I put a stock on years ago, but I want to make a better stock for it. I checked and the federal law says barrel no shorter than 18 and total length of gun no shorter than 26. I would think that extending the stock to

Re: [MBZ] OT Which Glock to buy?

2013-01-27 Thread Gerry Archer
Good to know; thanks. I have an old single shot 12 ga I put a stock on years ago, but I want to make a better stock for it. I checked and the federal law says barrel no shorter than 18 and total length of gun no shorter than 26. I would think that extending the stock to 26 above the pistol

Re: [MBZ] OT Which Glock to buy?

2013-01-27 Thread Gerry Archer
- Original Message - From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net Someone else said the kick from the pistol grip would injure the shooter. I've shot a shotgun at waist level, it's not a problem at all. Gentle. Same piece against the shoulder is quite a bit more jarring. It's all about

Re: [MBZ] OT Which Glock to buy?

2013-01-27 Thread Gerry Archer
- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Max Dillon Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 6:26 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] OT Which Glock to buy? Model 19 or 26? The only semi-auto pistol of significant caliber that I really enjoy shooting is a Browning Hi

Re: [MBZ] OT Which Glock to buy?

2013-01-26 Thread Max Dillon
I'm going to wait for the current ridiculousness to end before I purchase. The short grip of the 26 can be fixed with a longer magazine fitted with a slip-on grip at the bottom, which is the same diameter/profile as the pistol grip. Thanks for the tip on the Arcus 98. -- Max Dillon Charleston

Re: [MBZ] OT Which Glock to buy?

2013-01-26 Thread Max Dillon
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Max Dillon Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 6:26 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] OT Which Glock to buy? Model 19 or 26? The only semi-auto pistol of significant caliber that I really enjoy shooting is a Browning Hi-Power that is owned

Re: [MBZ] OT Which Glock to buy?

2013-01-26 Thread Max Dillon
I love that gun as well. What did you pay? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: I bought a real colt 1911 last year, it's a great gun, I do not like glocks Sent from my iPhone On Jan 25, 2013, at 9:27 PM, Dieselhead

Re: [MBZ] OT Which Glock to buy?

2013-01-26 Thread Max Dillon
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Max Dillon Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 9:26 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] OT Which Glock to buy? Model 19 or 26? The only semi-auto pistol of significant caliber that I really enjoy shooting is a Browning Hi-Power that is owned

Re: [MBZ] OT Which Glock to buy?

2013-01-26 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
$800 including the gun, nice leather shoulder holster, laser site(which I don't have attached), and about 500 rounds of ammo. The gun has had much work done to the ramp, trigger, etc, very smooth shooting gun Sent from my iPhone On Jan 26, 2013, at 9:11 AM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net

Re: [MBZ] OT Which Glock to buy?

2013-01-26 Thread Rick Knoble
On Jan 26, 2013, at 9:08 AM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Thanks Greg. Newbie, no idea what +P+ ammo is. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overpressure_ammunition It helps to make .380's and .38's viable CCW defensive weapons. Rick Sent from my iPhone

Re: [MBZ] OT Which Glock to buy?

2013-01-26 Thread Rick Knoble
On Jan 26, 2013, at 7:12 AM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: I'm going to wait for the current ridiculousness to end before I purchase. How old are you? It's going to be a long while. Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For

Re: [MBZ] OT Which Glock to buy?

2013-01-26 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Jan 26, 2013 5:12 AM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: The short grip of the 26 can be fixed with a longer magazine fitted with a slip-on grip at the bottom, Those grip extenders are notorious for causing reliability problems. Alex ___

Re: [MBZ] OT Which Glock to buy?

2013-01-26 Thread Jim Cathey
The short grip of the 26 can be fixed with a longer magazine fitted with a slip-on grip at the bottom, Those grip extenders are notorious for causing reliability problems. Get a grip! (Don't extend it, buy it long enough in the first place. Aka 19, 17.) Glock grips _are_ a bit fat, but

Re: [MBZ] OT Which Glock to buy?

2013-01-26 Thread Jim Cathey
It helps to make .380's and .38's viable CCW defensive weapons. Some friends had a sweet .380, the large Colt I think, and it was very pleasant to shoot. I wanted one. Another friend was looking for home defense and was drawn to the small cuteness of a .380, so we went to the range and rented

Re: [MBZ] OT Which Glock to buy?

2013-01-26 Thread Max Dillon
I'm just about half way done on this earth, will see at least another ten presidential elections. I think in a year or less this will all have blown over. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote: On Jan 26, 2013, at 7:12 AM, Max

Re: [MBZ] OT Which Glock to buy?

2013-01-26 Thread Rick Knoble
On Jan 26, 2013, at 7:12 AM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: I'm going to wait for the current ridiculousness to end before I purchase. How old are you? It's going to be a long while. On Jan 26, 2013, at 12:11 PM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: I think in a

Re: [MBZ] OT Which Glock to buy?

2013-01-26 Thread Brian Toscano
The pump action of a shot gun remains one if the most feared sounds in America. Having said that, experiences perps and even menacing dogs know when you're loading a clip. No shot is necessary. The just move on. On Saturday, January 26, 2013, Jim Cathey wrote: It helps to make .380's and

Re: [MBZ] OT Which Glock to buy?

2013-01-26 Thread Curt Raymond
going to be a wholesale ban now either. -Curt Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2013 12:19:49 -0600 From: Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Which Glock to buy? Message-ID: bay403-eas393c8896bca485a6619bf0dd...@phx.gbl Content-Type: text

Re: [MBZ] OT Which Glock to buy?

2013-01-26 Thread Dieselhead
Definitely Bond material! I'm just about half way done on this earth, will see at least another ten presidential elections. I think in a year or less this will all have blown over. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 ___

Re: [MBZ] OT Which Glock to buy?

2013-01-26 Thread Scott Ritchey
store them securely (in a small pistol safe) in convenient locations in your home. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Brian Toscano Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 1:56 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Which Glock

Re: [MBZ] OT Which Glock to buy?

2013-01-26 Thread Gerry Archer
Retired Long Island detective said a 12 ga with a short barrel and a pistol grip was the best home and car defense weapon. Someone else said the kick from the pistol grip would injure the shooter. Who was correct? Gerry From: Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.com The pump action of a shot

Re: [MBZ] OT Which Glock to buy?

2013-01-26 Thread Dieselhead
under 18 and no stock has been illegal since about 1930. Being a cop, I am sure he figgered he was immune. Retired Long Island detective said a 12 ga with a short barrel and a pistol grip was the best home and car defense weapon. Someone else said the kick from the pistol grip would injure

Re: [MBZ] OT Which Glock to buy?

2013-01-26 Thread Mountain Man
Rick wrote: That is your prediction? Are you still on Banned? If so, I will post my predictions there. Did I miss that prediction? Haven't seen it yet... Standard banned closure omitted mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to

Re: [MBZ] OT Which Glock to buy?

2013-01-26 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Brian Toscano Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 1:56 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Which Glock to buy? The pump action of a shot gun remains one if the most feared sounds in America. Having said that, experiences

Re: [MBZ] OT Which Glock to buy?

2013-01-26 Thread Mountain Man
Brian wrote: The pump action of a shot gun remains one if the most feared sounds in America. Having said that, experiences perps and even menacing dogs know when you're loading a clip. No shot is necessary. The just move on. I recall hearing that same advice on Peter Boyles radio show from

Re: [MBZ] OT Which Glock to buy?

2013-01-26 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I have shot many high powered shot guns with pistol grip and have not had any problems, but is you are not used to guns I could see how it would be easy to injure yourself or others Sent from my iPhone On Jan 26, 2013, at 3:57 PM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Retired Long

Re: [MBZ] OT Which Glock to buy?

2013-01-26 Thread Mountain Man
Kaleb wrote: I also have several hand guns I can get to easy in case someone or zombies are trying to come in Shut-Up. The agencies read this stuff - waaay too many keywords to consider okie-benz as decent firewall. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new

Re: [MBZ] OT Which Glock to buy?

2013-01-26 Thread Greg Fiorentino
in a vehicle as an additional choice to the handgun, not instead of the handgun. Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Gerry Archer Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 1:57 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Which Glock

Re: [MBZ] OT Which Glock to buy?

2013-01-26 Thread Greg Fiorentino
-Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Max Dillon Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 7:09 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Which Glock to buy? Thanks Greg. Newbie, no idea what +P+ ammo is. How was the 19's recoil with normal

Re: [MBZ] OT Which Glock to buy?

2013-01-26 Thread Max Dillon
Rick, Haven't paid attention to banned for a couple years now. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote: I think in a year or less this will all have blown over. That is your prediction? Are you still on Banned? If so, I will

Re: [MBZ] OT Which Glock to buy? Now revolvers

2013-01-26 Thread David Kristin Gilmore
At 12:58 PM 1/26/2013, Jim Cathey wrote: (snip) Esthetically I prefer old-school work. Like a SW N-frame (snip) Yes! Now you are talking. Revolvers typically are more accurate, with a

Re: [MBZ] OT Which Glock to buy?

2013-01-26 Thread Max Dillon
Have you ever shot a Walther PPK? I haven't, and I can't say that I've heard of any redeeming quality except the Bond connection. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Definitely Bond material! I'm just about half way done on

Re: [MBZ] OT Which Glock to buy?

2013-01-26 Thread Rick Knoble
Okay. Rick Sent from my iPhone On Jan 26, 2013, at 6:11 PM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Rick, Haven't paid attention to banned for a couple years now. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote: I

Re: [MBZ] OT Which Glock to buy?

2013-01-26 Thread Max Dillon
Yes, zombies are drawn to Mercedes drivers, we must have larger or higher quality brains to drive such fine automobiles. Okie acres is a positive zombie magnet. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: I have several shot

Re: [MBZ] OT Which Glock to buy?

2013-01-26 Thread Max Dillon
Greg, that's what I was looking for. Need to test drive a 19, more importantly get SWMBO some trigger time as well. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Greg Fiorentino gf...@dslnorthwest.net wrote: The M19 handles beautifully with standard 9mm ammo.

Re: [MBZ] OT Which Glock to buy?

2013-01-26 Thread Mitch Haley
Scott Ritchey wrote: A shotgun is clearly the most effective home defense weapon providing you can get to it, the perp is not too close, and you don't need to move around the house with it. Shotguns have more stopping power than any handgun. Magazine extensions are available to add a couple

Re: [MBZ] OT Which Glock to buy? Now revolvers

2013-01-26 Thread Greg Fiorentino
:18 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Which Glock to buy? Now revolvers At 12:58 PM 1/26/2013, Jim Cathey wrote: (snip) Esthetically I prefer old-school work. Like a SW N-frame

Re: [MBZ] OT Which Glock to buy?

2013-01-26 Thread Mitch Haley
Dieselhead wrote: under 18 and no stock has been illegal since about 1930. Being a cop, I am sure he figgered he was immune. Had a dealer tell me that combining the factory 18.5 barrel with the factory pistol grip would make it too short and require me to register it as a handgun, I assume

Re: [MBZ] OT Which Glock to buy?

2013-01-26 Thread Russ Williams
I have a PPK-S .380 that I bought in new 1970 for $119.00 to replace the one I got off a Chi-Com Lt in VN. Was stolen out of my unaccompanied baggage. Perp even stole the Paperwork and the Engraved Shoulder holster that was in the sealed box. I carried the PPK for the 20 years that I was flying

Re: [MBZ] OT Which Glock to buy?

2013-01-26 Thread Jim Cathey
Someone else said the kick from the pistol grip would injure the shooter. I've shot a shotgun at waist level, it's not a problem at all. Gentle. Same piece against the shoulder is quite a bit more jarring. It's all about physics. Just like in a car crash, the greater distance you can spread

Re: [MBZ] OT Which Glock to buy? Now revolvers

2013-01-26 Thread Scott Ritchey
: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of David Kristin Gilmore Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 7:18 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Which Glock to buy? Now revolvers At 12:58 PM 1/26/2013, Jim Cathey wrote

Re: [MBZ] OT Which Glock to buy?

2013-01-26 Thread Max Dillon
Russ, that's a great story, I'll bet you've got more. Sounds like you switched to the 44 mag during times of increased odds of using your weapon in the line of duty. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Russ Williams rawil...@eatel.net wrote: I have a PPK-S .380

Re: [MBZ] OT Which Glock to buy?

2013-01-26 Thread Dieselhead
Have you ever shot a Walther PPK? I haven't, and I can't say that I've heard of any redeeming quality except the Bond connection. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Definitely Bond material! Nope. Just jivin' you. Wather

[MBZ] OT Which Glock to buy?

2013-01-25 Thread Max Dillon
Model 19 or 26? The only semi-auto pistol of significant caliber that I really enjoy shooting is a Browning Hi-Power that is owned by a relative. There is basically no muzzle climb. A friend who is a big Glock fan advises that the model 19 will have the best recoil characteristics. Anyone

Re: [MBZ] OT Which Glock to buy?

2013-01-25 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Jan 25, 2013 6:26 PM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Model 19 or 26? I'm surprised you can find either. Local gun shops can't keep anything in stock these days. I just walked by the gun counter at Fred Meyer (a PNW Target-like chain) and they had no handguns except a couple of

Re: [MBZ] OT Which Glock to buy?

2013-01-25 Thread Jim Cathey
I'm not up on the numbers. Hard to argue with a 17, the original. (OK, maybe an 18 might be better! :-) Very utilitarian pieces, I think of them as Toyota guns, vs MB. Don't get me wrong, at times a Toyota is just right. Dishwasher-safe, and all. The 21 (?) .45 Glock handles nice. Also

Re: [MBZ] OT Which Glock to buy?

2013-01-25 Thread Dieselhead
Model 19 or 26? The only semi-auto pistol of significant caliber that I really enjoy shooting is a Browning Hi-Power that is owned by a relative. There is basically no muzzle climb. A friend who is a big Glock fan advises that the model 19 will have the best recoil characteristics. Anyone

Re: [MBZ] OT Which Glock to buy?

2013-01-25 Thread ernest breakfield
any decent beaver-tail grip safety should negate that problem,... cheers! e On 25/Jan/13 19:27, Dieselhead wrote: Personally, I think they are fugly. I have wanted a 19 1 1 4 5AC P for a long time. Last fall I had the chance to fire one at the Brownell's range. It bit me between the

Re: [MBZ] OT Which Glock to buy?

2013-01-25 Thread Greg Fiorentino
:26 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] OT Which Glock to buy? Model 19 or 26? The only semi-auto pistol of significant caliber that I really enjoy shooting is a Browning Hi-Power that is owned by a relative. There is basically no muzzle climb. A friend who is a big Glock fan advises

Re: [MBZ] OT Which Glock to buy?

2013-01-25 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I bought a real colt 1911 last year, it's a great gun, I do not like glocks Sent from my iPhone On Jan 25, 2013, at 9:27 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Model 19 or 26? The only semi-auto pistol of significant caliber that I really enjoy shooting is a Browning Hi-Power that is

Re: [MBZ] OT Which Glock to buy?

2013-01-25 Thread Scott Ritchey
. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Max Dillon Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 9:26 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] OT Which Glock to buy? Model 19 or 26? The only semi-auto pistol of significant caliber that I really enjoy shooting