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I dunno, seems unlikely to me, if garbage costs escallated though...
-Curt
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 10:37:45 -0500
From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT business idea - was Biodiesel *processor* for
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I thought most of the oil is in the brew.
On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 10:21 PM, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So - how do you extract the oil from the used grounds? We throw away a
LOT of grounds from the employee lounge coffee machine at work ---
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Norman, OK
There are only
andrew strasfogel wrote:
I thought most of the oil is in the brew.
I thought this discussion started with the revelation that spent grounds are 15%
oil by weight.
Mitch.
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I see. Maybe that's why they smell so rank...
On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 11:28 AM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
andrew strasfogel wrote:
I thought most of the oil is in the brew.
I thought this discussion started with the revelation that spent grounds
are 15% oil by weight.
Mitch.
http://tinyurl.com/6mb4ks
This looks like a good idea. Maybe it would be another for the mix of
fuel choices. Just need to get somebody to scale it up
clay
On Dec 2, 2008, at 7:39 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote:
I thought most of the oil is in the brew.
On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 10:21 PM, OK
Great article!
Sounds like a winning scale-up candidate, although one wonders about the
energy balance since methanol and KOH are required, and each consumes energy
in the manufacturing process...
On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:58 PM, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/6mb4ks
All that, and in DC you will need to get 16 permits, pay off various
govt inspectors and authorities, get taxed outrageously, and donate to
reelection campaigns to keep the crooks in office.
--R
Max Dillon wrote:
How about calling your business Global Warming-R-Us? You see, composting will
1. No
2. No
3. No - in fact, property taxes are below those in MD where we lived
before. It is irksome to lack representation in Congress, however (this
will soon change).
4. Yes, I do donate to various partisan causes but never to crooks. This
activity has borne fruit (pending the results of
I kinda like that mayor y'all had, the one that got busted with hookers
smoking crack or snorting coke or whatever, who staged a big comeback
after doing his penance. Marion Barry, that's the guy, a stellar mayor,
very popular! Weren't there bribes mixed in there too? (Maybe that is
Buddy
What happened to Kaleb's no politics rule?
Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
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Rich Thomas wrote:
All that, and in DC you will need to get 16 permits, pay off various
govt inspectors and authorities, get taxed outrageously, and donate to
reelection campaigns to keep the crooks in office.
Kind of like Mexico, eh?
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3. No - in fact, property taxes are below those in MD where we lived
before. It is irksome to lack representation in Congress, however (this
will soon change).
You're moving, or the 'conspiracy theorists' are correct when they say that the
socialists are planning to
I make no claims for Mass. politicians. Also, Mayor Barry is so very last
millennium. The D.C. government has really cleaned up its act since he left
office.
On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 10:20 AM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Rich Thomas wrote:
All that, and in DC you will need to get 16
I have no idea what you're talking about. What has PR to do with this?
On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 10:23 AM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
andrew strasfogel wrote:
3. No - in fact, property taxes are below those in MD where we lived
before. It is irksome to lack representation in
You on banned lite yet?
Rich Thomas wrote:
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I am still waiting for input regarding a good business model for creating a
100 percent safe and effective municipal composting program solely for the
region's restaurants and coffee shops. How this veered off into a political
discussion is beyond me.
On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 10:27 AM, John
Your thread was hijacked.
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It does not exist.
You need to collect stuff that is highly distributed and low volume.
You will need to give them containers to store the stuff in. It will be
more effort for the source to separate and deal with it, so you might
have to pay them. You need a place and equipment to compost
andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
I am still waiting for input regarding a good business model for creating a
100 percent safe and effective municipal composting program solely for the
region's restaurants and coffee shops.
You've gotten what you paid for.
Seriously, if it were so
It's a great model, you just have to find the right market. Small
Caribbean countries that lack good topsoil and sewage infrastructure
would be very appreciative of someone stepping up to organize an
effort like this. Unfortunately, the US comes in about dead last in
the world when it comes to
andrew strasfogel wrote:
I have no idea what you're talking about. What has PR to do with this?
I was just reading a diatribe this weekend, in which a fellow claimed the
Obaminoids were plotting to increase their power by granting statehood to the
presumably socialist residents of DC and
OK, my last comment on the subject.
My wife in a previous life was residuals program manager for the Boston
Harbor Project, the new wastewater treatment facility for the greater
Boston area back in the 90s. It was a huge project, her job was dealing
with the leftovers (sludge). If you ever
Tell me Rich, do you see any down sides to it? :)
Harry
It does not exist.
You need to collect stuff that is highly distributed and low volume.
You will need to give them containers to store the stuff in. It will be
more effort for the source to separate and deal with it, so you might
because composting releases CO2, and according to Albore, the
almighty expert on everything, releasing CO2 kills the
planet. Someone on the list merely pointed out the hypocrisy. It is
not political, other than albore belongs to a political party.
At 09:37 AM 12/1/2008, you wrote:
I am
, if garbage costs escallated though...
-Curt
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 10:37:45 -0500
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I am still waiting for input regarding a good
I think the two of you need a time out.
Besides, my compost bins generate good CO2.
ALS
On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 12:12 PM, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
because composting releases CO2, and according to Albore, the almighty
expert on everything, releasing CO2 kills the planet. Someone
I'm jumping in late here, so not sure what's been talked about. We have
green boxes here. Well, we have every known colour of box set out on the
kirbside. lol. Green is for compost. Lot of ppl here with gardens, will
still throw the easy compost stuff in their own composter. We have to mulch
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I am still waiting
By using the term business model I am not suggesting that a profit can be
turned on the composting of garbage!
BTW, where is this enlightened burg that you call home? Maybe I should move
there!
On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 5:01 PM, E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm jumping in late here, so not
compost) but they have to measure they amount of effort the
separation takes vs the amount they save...
I dunno, seems unlikely to me, if garbage costs escallated though...
-Curt
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 10:37:45 -0500
From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT business idea
on a hot afternoon to pickup a couple bags. Sometimes they
won't have any bags out and I'll ask and they'll fill a garbage bag or two for
me with used stuff from the bin (!)
-Curt
Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 17:19:03 -0500
From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT business idea
I'm sure there's a way to make money out of pretty much anything. Our local
Zoo would collect the droppings from the larger animals, elephants etc and
sell it as Zoo Poo. lol. No kidding, the stuff was about $3.00 for a 5lb
bag!!
If you have access to coffee grinds from all your local
Nantucket does that.
--R
andrew strasfogel wrote:
Or maybe municipalities should simply refuse to take
anything to the dump that can be reused/repurposed or converted into a
useful product such as compost.
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Only problem is then people start dumping their trash in vacant lots,
ravines, etc. late at night.
Allan
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Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Nantucket does that.
--R
andrew strasfogel wrote:
Or maybe municipalities should simply refuse to take
anything to the dump that can
Vacant lots on Nantucket (if you can find one) go for about $500k -- $1M
an acre, and there are no ravines. Place is small enough and everyone
knows everyone else's business and there are enough busybodies, so not
much illegal dumping going on. It used to be fun going to the dump,
never knew
So - how do you extract the oil from the used grounds? We throw away a
LOT of grounds from the employee lounge coffee machine at work ---
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OK Don, KD5NRO
Norman, OK
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mountaineering; all the rest are merely games. - Ernest Hemingway
How about calling your business Global Warming-R-Us? You see, composting
will release more CO2, which according to Al Gore (let's take a momement to say
Thanks for the Internet Al!) causes Man-Made Global Warming, drowning polar
bears and sinking Pacific islands and allowing Brits to grow
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: [MBZ] OT business idea - was Biodiesel *processor* for under $3k
How about calling your business Global Warming-R-Us? You see, composting
will release more CO2, which according to Al Gore (let's take a momement to
say Thanks for the Internet Al!) causes Man-Made
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