Hi All -
I get a newsletter from a group called Machinery Lubrication -
http://www.machinerylubrication.com/Page/subscriptions IMO the title is a
little misleading – the topics for this month are:
a.. Beware of Blue Engine Smoke
b.. Comparing Gasoline and Diesel Engine Oils
c.. Why
Do you (or does anyone) do analysis on transmission fluid? Is there any
reason to think that would be beneficial?
Allan
Larry l02tur...@comcast.net writes:
Hi All -
I get a newsletter from a group called Machinery Lubrication -
http://www.machinerylubrication.com/Page/subscriptions IMO
engines - to evaluate wear
and contamination - especially when trying to understand what a PO may have
done...
LarryT
91 300D
-Original Message-
From: Allan Streib
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 7:53 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil Analysis - Lube Tips
Do you
Howdy -
I thought some might like to see the results of using AMSOIL 15w40 long
term in a tractor trailer rig used on long hauls.
If anyone would like to see the actual Analysis Report which has 6 test
results on it. The ZDDP components are pretty high with Zinc around 1380
1776.
LarryT wrote:
Howdy -
I thought some might like to see the results of using
AMSOIL 15w40 long term in a tractor trailer rig used on long
hauls.
Just remember that those 12 and 14 liter engines are _not_ the
same as our little Mercedes.
--Philip
life? Not
being combative, I just want to understand...
TIA -
LarryT
-Original Message-
From: Fmiser
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 2:41 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OIL ANALYSIS
LarryT wrote:
Howdy -
I thought some might like to see the results of using
When you do change the oil on one of those, how much does it take?
-Dave Walton
On Jul 26, 2011, at 12:49 PM, LarryT l02tur...@comcast.net wrote:
Howdy -
I thought some might like to see the results of using AMSOIL 15w40 long
term in a tractor trailer rig used on long hauls.
If
Did you ever do similar analysis while using conventional oils?
I have to wonder if long haul truck engines perform better using
expensive synthetic oils.
One would think that cold starts are the hardest on engines and those of
us who drive short stop and go trips will benefit more from
Subject: [MBZ] OIL ANALYSIS
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Howdy -
I thought some might like to see the results of using AMSOIL 15w40 long
term in a tractor trailer rig used on long hauls
LarryT wrote:
Hmm... other than the obvious Size/# of cylinders and I
believe the starting mechanism/system is different - how do
they differ? Both are internal compression style engines,
right? I must be missing something. Please explain
The N14 Cummins (BC-III) I'm most familiar
the differences allow oil to have longer, easier life?
Not being combative, I just want to understand...
TIA -
LarryT
-Original Message- From: Fmiser
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 2:41 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OIL ANALYSIS
LarryT wrote:
Howdy -
I thought some
Larry,
Are you still offering a discount on your 3-pack or 4-pack of oil
testing kits? Does your lab provide the soot load for those of us with
compression ignition?
Thanks,
Max
-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
Hello all -
At the request of OK Don I have started the $5 discount program again so
when someone buys a 3 or 4 kit Oil Analysis package. The Discount Code is -
Mercedes.
Enjoy -
LarryT
https://www.nrahq.org/nrabonus/accept-membership.asp
Free 1 year NRA membership for anyone interested!
List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 6:26 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Oil Analysis Discounts
Hello all -
At the request of OK Don I have started the $5 discount program again
so
when someone buys a 3 or 4 kit Oil Analysis package. The Discount Code
is - Mercedes.
Enjoy -
LarryT
On Sun, 3 May 2009 18:26:43 -0400 LarryT l02tur...@comcast.net wrote:
https://www.nrahq.org/nrabonus/accept-membership.asp
Free 1 year NRA membership for anyone interested!
Did you add this to your email, or does comcast add it for you?
Craig
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] Oil Analysis Discounts
On Sun, 3 May 2009 18:26:43 -0400 LarryT l02tur...@comcast.net wrote:
https://www.nrahq.org/nrabonus/accept-membership.asp
Free 1 year NRA membership for anyone interested!
Did you add this to your email, or does comcast add it for you?
Craig
I was on-board until I read about the free NRA membership.
On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 5:26 PM, LarryT l02tur...@comcast.net wrote:
Hello all -
At the request of OK Don I have started the $5 discount program again so
when someone buys a 3 or 4 kit Oil Analysis package. The Discount Code is -
Why? You don't have to join. All NRA members are not bad any more than any
other group.
On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 10:11 PM, Wonko the Sane don.b...@gmail.com wrote:
I was on-board until I read about the free NRA membership.
On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 5:26 PM, LarryT l02tur...@comcast.net wrote:
It was tongue in cheek.
On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 10:16 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote:
Why? You don't have to join. All NRA members are not bad any more than any
other group.
On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 10:11 PM, Wonko the Sane don.b...@gmail.com
wrote:
I was on-board until I read about the
huh?
Wonko the Sane wrote:
I was on-board until I read about the free NRA membership.
--
Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E,
89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D,
84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76
oil. The
Ranger I have now uses 5w30 so I'll probably switch to that, the mowers
probably won't notice.
-Curt
Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 14:20:33 -0400
From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil Analysis - bypass oil filter
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Message-ID
think you're seeing breakin metals which I
think will go away if you use dino oil for 10-20,000 miles. 50,000 miles is
nothing to a 617 engine, maybe 1/8th of expected lifespan...
-Curt
Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 21:25:49 +0200
From: Peter Merle merle.pe...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OIl Analysis
Did my first oil analysis on my Om617 300D. This engine I overhauled some 5
years and 8 km ago ( I assembled all myself ) . After initial fill its
run on Mobil 1 only . Oil analysis came up with high Copper - @ 29 ppm and
Iron @ 71 ppm . Lab report said that this could possibly be pump wear (
Subject: [MBZ] OIl Analysis - High Copper and Iron
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
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Did my first oil analysis on my Om617 300D. This engine I overhauled some 5
)
'95 and '97 Crown Vics
-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
On Behalf Of Curt Raymond
Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009 9:41 AM
To: Diesel List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OIl Analysis - High Copper and Iron
80,000 km is about 50,000 miles? Its
Depends on what you consider an extended interval to be --- Curt is tunning
15,000 mile between changes - I call that extended. I run 12,000 to 15,000
miles between changes of Mobil 1, based on analysis resutls, the soot is
still within range. Could probably go 20,000, but I won't push it that
25, 2009 2:04 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil Analysis - bypass oil filter
Depends on what you consider an extended interval to be --- Curt is
tunning
15,000 mile between changes - I call that extended. I run 12,000 to 15,000
miles between changes of Mobil 1, based on analysis resutls, the soot
that. In my 240D I run Delvac 1300 because of that. Of course
that car leaks a quart in ~200 miles because of bad oil cooler lines...
-Curt
Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 17:00:08 +0200
From: Peter Merle merle.pe...@gmail.com
Subject: [MBZ] OIl Analysis - High Copper and Iron
To: Mercedes Discussion List
However, isn't the oil filter on a 617
actually a 2-stage filter with one of the stages a bypass filter?
Yes, but I don't believe it's fine enough to trap soot.
-- Jim
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On Behalf Of Loren Faeth
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 5:05 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil analysis problem
Is it possible the piston oil spray nozzles were not cleaned and
working during the previous rebuild? That might account for the
rings being
Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2008 4:04 AM
Subject: [MBZ] Oil analysis problem
Sent oil samples from my 5 300D 's to the lab ( 3 x W123's , 1x 300GD (
OM617 ) and 1xW124 ) and got satisfatcory results from 3 off them . The
one
W123 ( the only one running Mobil
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To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2008 4:04 AM
Subject: [MBZ] Oil analysis problem
Sent oil samples from my 5 300D 's to the lab ( 3 x W123's , 1x 300GD (
OM617 ) and 1xW124 ) and got satisfatcory results from 3 off them . The
one
W123 ( the only one
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil analysis problem
Hi Peter -
re: more on the engine used with WVO - the lab I use hasn't seen enough WVO
oil samples to know what the long term effects of using WVO are - they just
haven't seen sufficient samples to create a unique set of information
specifically for WVO
Porsche Posters/Weber parts
- Original Message - From: Peter Merle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2008 4:04 AM
Subject: [MBZ] Oil analysis problem
Sent oil samples from my 5 300D 's to the lab ( 3 x W123's , 1x 300GD
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil analysis problem
Larry , compression is down - around 18 bar all round and starting has
become more slightly more difficult. It did not achieve full 24 bar when
newly overhauled and I can only ascribe this to not optimal machining.
honing by engineering shop - perhaps
)
www.youroil.net Oil Analysis Kits
Porsche Posters/Weber parts
- Original Message -
From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 9:49 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil analysis problem
My comment earlier is that the WVO may
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www.youroil.net Oil Analysis Kits
Porsche Posters/Weber parts
- Original Message - From: Peter Merle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 1:57 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil analysis problem
Larry , compression is down - around
: [MBZ] Oil analysis problem
Is it possible the piston oil spray nozzles were not cleaned and
working during the previous rebuild? That might account for the
rings being carboned up the first time, and again now.
At 04:40 PM 10/27/2008, you wrote:
Hi Peter --
You asked what actually lubricates
the piston tops.
Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
www.kegkits.com
256-656-1924
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Loren Faeth
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 5:05 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil analysis problem
Is it possible
Sent oil samples from my 5 300D 's to the lab ( 3 x W123's , 1x 300GD (
OM617 ) and 1xW124 ) and got satisfatcory results from 3 off them . The one
W123 ( the only one running Mobil 1 ) had high levels of Copper and Iron (
29 and 71 ppm ) after 2000 km. Sodium, Siicon, Al , Cr , particulates, soot
-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Peter Merle
Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2008 3:04 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: [MBZ] Oil analysis problem
Sent oil samples from my 5 300D 's to the lab ( 3 x W123's , 1x 300GD (
OM617 ) and 1xW124 ) and got satisfatcory
using cheap
oil...
-Curt
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 10:04:15 +0200
From: Peter Merle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [MBZ] Oil analysis problem
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
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Sent oil samples from my 5 300D 's
the previous owner using cheap oil...
-Curt
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 10:04:15 +0200
From: Peter Merle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [MBZ] Oil analysis problem
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Date: Sunday, October 26, 2008, 1:06 PM
Yes indeed I rebuilt the engine myself 5 years ago. I was meticulous and used
OEM parts throughout. Used dino oil for the first two changes 500, 5000 km
@okiebenz.com; Peter Merle
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Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2008 1:27 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil analysis problem
Interesting, the rebuild was 60,000 km ago? Thats not long at all, clearly
something is wrong and unfortunately I'd have to guess that a teardown is
the only way you're going
And you should know the difference.
Bob R
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On Behalf Of Wonko the Sane
Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2008 8:55 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] oil analysis kits
Because I am paranoid (but not schizophrenic
Strange, I'm schizophrenic but not paranoid.
Though mind you, every once in a while I do get the strangest feeling
that I'm being followed but when I turn real quick to look it's just me.
Oh well whatchya gonna do.
Manfred
Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 22:55:10 -0500
From: Wonko the Sane [EMAIL
Who sells the oil analysis kits? Is that Larry? How does one order one
(actually, two)?
--
LT Don
http://don.homelinux.net/~don/
apt-get update
apt-get upgrade
The following packages will be replaced
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Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y
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Ya, LarryT.
The link in his sig:
http://members.rennlist.com/oil/
Eventually leads you here:
http://www.youroil.net/
Wonko the Sane wrote:
Who sells the oil analysis kits? Is that Larry? How does one order one
(actually, two)?
--
LT Don
http://don.homelinux.net/~don/
apt-get
D'oh.
On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 9:57 PM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ya, LarryT.
The link in his sig:
http://members.rennlist.com/oil/
Eventually leads you here:
http://www.youroil.net/
Wonko the Sane wrote:
Who sells the oil analysis kits? Is that Larry? How does one order
Buy either the three or four pack of suction bottle kits.
On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 10:02 PM, Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
D'oh.
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OK Don, KD5NRO
Norman, OK
There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics.
-Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain
'90 300D (Rattled), '92
Will the results tell me when to next do an oil change or does it give me a
current snapshot and I have to repeat the process in another three months?
On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 10:27 PM, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Buy either the three or four pack of suction bottle kits.
On Sat, May 24,
You get a current snapshot, but you can extrapolate when you should
get the next one. Since all were in the OK range, I base my change
intervals on the suspended soot. So far 10,000 miles is well within
the 2% limit (MBs recommendation, per Marshal).
Most of the other values will point to engine
I add a quart so frequently (due to my commuting pattern and the age of my
engine) that I might never again need to do an oil change, just a filter
change.
On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 10:40 PM, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So far 10,000 miles is well within the 2% limit (MBs recommendation, per
Then why bother having the oil analyzed?
On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 10:47 PM, Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I add a quart so frequently (due to my commuting pattern and the age of my
engine) that I might never again need to do an oil change, just a filter
change.
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OK Don, KD5NRO
Because I am paranoid (but not schizophrenic).
On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 10:53 PM, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Then why bother having the oil analyzed?
On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 10:47 PM, Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I add a quart so frequently (due to my commuting pattern and
Ordered, thank you much!
Luther
On Thu, 09 Nov 2006 14:00:15 -0600, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Luther,
Well, since you asked - I just added a $5 discount on a 3 or 4 pack from now
until 12/31/06. It wll ask for the secret word which is diesel. I
thought about getting cute and
Larry, any Mercedes list specials currently?
--
Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark
'87 300SDL (270,491 mi) head case?
'83 300SD (241 kmi)
'82 300CD (162 kmi)
'82 300D (74 kmi) needs MAJOR engine work
'85 300D (280,176) parts car
/
.
- Original Message -
From: Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 12:48 PM
Subject: [MBZ] oil analysis
Larry, any Mercedes list specials currently?
--
Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark
'87 300SDL (270,491 mi) head case?
'83 300SD (241 kmi)
'82 300CD (162
SWEET! I sent in my last kit just the other day.
Just a note to others, if you aren't into oil analysis yet you might not want
to start, it can be a little addicting...
-Curt
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2006 15:00:15 -0500
From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] oil analysis
To: Mercedes
I'm going to try 20K. Will probably change it then, whether it needs
it or not. I don't have a good idea of where the other readings fall
relative to the soot - the lab gives you the numbers, and a pass/fail
grade.
I'll definitely change it before heading out for the ArticQ.
On 12/13/05, Kaleb
Just wanted to drop a note with kudos for Larry T and his Oil Analysis Company.
I just got the results back from the second test on my '96 Dodge Dakota. I LOVE
it when the results match what I expected. Fuel in the oil was up a bit which
is probably because my wife drives the truck and just
Does he have a web site? Do they check soot?
Sounds like a good deal.
J.B.
At 10:18 AM 12/13/2005, you wrote:
Just wanted to drop a note with kudos for Larry T and his Oil
Analysis Company. I just got the results back from the second test
on my '96 Dodge Dakota. I LOVE it when the results
Here's Larry's email address. He and I were both mentioned in last year's
Scottsdale Barrett-Jackson Auction. Our 15 minutes of fame. And, to be
perfectly honest, I don't think they mentioned our names, just the
questions or comments we sent in. Let me graft some stuff from his sig line;
Info
- Original Message -
From: Tom Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 12:19 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil Analysis
Here's Larry's email address. He and I were both mentioned in last year's
Scottsdale Barrett-Jackson
http://members.rennlist.com/my_911/Index.htm For my Paint Job Info
- Original Message -
From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Diesel List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 10:18 AM
Subject: [MBZ] Oil Analysis
Just wanted to drop a note with kudos for Larry T and his
AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil Analysis
Does he have a web site? Do they check soot?
Sounds like a good deal.
J.B.
At 10:18 AM 12/13/2005, you wrote:
Just wanted to drop a note with kudos for Larry T and his Oil
Analysis Company. I just got the results back from the second test
on my '96 Dodge
They do have a website: youroil.net
I don't know if they do soot since I haven't been testing a diesel engine.
-Curt
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 10:33:30 -0500
From: J.B. Hebert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil Analysis
To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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The bottle they provide for the sample is very small... about 2
ounces. I test at oil change time but you don't need to, you can suck
a sample out of the crankcase at any time to send in for analysis.
=)
-dm
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Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 09:46:05 -0400
From: andrew
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