Re: [MBZ] Oil analysis problem

2008-10-31 Thread Peter Merle
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] On Behalf Of Loren Faeth Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 5:05 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil analysis problem Is it possible the piston oil spray nozzles were not cleaned and working during the previous rebuild? That might account for the rings being

Re: [MBZ] Oil analysis problem

2008-10-27 Thread LarryT
Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2008 4:04 AM Subject: [MBZ] Oil analysis problem Sent oil samples from my 5 300D 's to the lab ( 3 x W123's , 1x 300GD ( OM617 ) and 1xW124 ) and got satisfatcory results from 3 off them . The one W123 ( the only one running Mobil

Re: [MBZ] Oil analysis problem

2008-10-27 Thread LarryT
] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2008 4:04 AM Subject: [MBZ] Oil analysis problem Sent oil samples from my 5 300D 's to the lab ( 3 x W123's , 1x 300GD ( OM617 ) and 1xW124 ) and got satisfatcory results from 3 off them . The one W123 ( the only one

Re: [MBZ] Oil analysis problem

2008-10-27 Thread Tom Hargrave
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil analysis problem Hi Peter - re: more on the engine used with WVO - the lab I use hasn't seen enough WVO oil samples to know what the long term effects of using WVO are - they just haven't seen sufficient samples to create a unique set of information specifically for WVO

Re: [MBZ] Oil analysis problem

2008-10-27 Thread Peter Merle
Porsche Posters/Weber parts - Original Message - From: Peter Merle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2008 4:04 AM Subject: [MBZ] Oil analysis problem Sent oil samples from my 5 300D 's to the lab ( 3 x W123's , 1x 300GD

Re: [MBZ] Oil analysis problem

2008-10-27 Thread LarryT
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil analysis problem Larry , compression is down - around 18 bar all round and starting has become more slightly more difficult. It did not achieve full 24 bar when newly overhauled and I can only ascribe this to not optimal machining. honing by engineering shop - perhaps

Re: [MBZ] Oil analysis problem

2008-10-27 Thread LarryT
) www.youroil.net Oil Analysis Kits Porsche Posters/Weber parts - Original Message - From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 9:49 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil analysis problem My comment earlier is that the WVO may

Re: [MBZ] Oil analysis problem

2008-10-27 Thread Loren Faeth
) www.youroil.net Oil Analysis Kits Porsche Posters/Weber parts - Original Message - From: Peter Merle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 1:57 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil analysis problem Larry , compression is down - around

Re: [MBZ] Oil analysis problem

2008-10-27 Thread Tom Hargrave
: [MBZ] Oil analysis problem Is it possible the piston oil spray nozzles were not cleaned and working during the previous rebuild? That might account for the rings being carboned up the first time, and again now. At 04:40 PM 10/27/2008, you wrote: Hi Peter -- You asked what actually lubricates

Re: [MBZ] Oil analysis problem

2008-10-27 Thread Loren Faeth
the piston tops. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Loren Faeth Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 5:05 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil analysis problem Is it possible

[MBZ] Oil analysis problem

2008-10-26 Thread Peter Merle
Sent oil samples from my 5 300D 's to the lab ( 3 x W123's , 1x 300GD ( OM617 ) and 1xW124 ) and got satisfatcory results from 3 off them . The one W123 ( the only one running Mobil 1 ) had high levels of Copper and Iron ( 29 and 71 ppm ) after 2000 km. Sodium, Siicon, Al , Cr , particulates, soot

Re: [MBZ] Oil analysis problem

2008-10-26 Thread Tom Hargrave
- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Merle Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2008 3:04 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Oil analysis problem Sent oil samples from my 5 300D 's to the lab ( 3 x W123's , 1x 300GD ( OM617 ) and 1xW124 ) and got satisfatcory

Re: [MBZ] Oil analysis problem

2008-10-26 Thread Curt Raymond
using cheap oil... -Curt Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 10:04:15 +0200 From: Peter Merle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Oil analysis problem To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID:     [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sent oil samples from my 5 300D 's

Re: [MBZ] Oil analysis problem

2008-10-26 Thread Peter Merle
the previous owner using cheap oil... -Curt Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 10:04:15 +0200 From: Peter Merle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Oil analysis problem To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sent

Re: [MBZ] Oil analysis problem

2008-10-26 Thread Curt Raymond
: Re: [MBZ] Oil analysis problem To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Sunday, October 26, 2008, 1:06 PM Yes indeed  I rebuilt the engine myself 5 years ago. I was meticulous and used OEM parts throughout. Used dino oil for the first two changes 500, 5000 km

Re: [MBZ] Oil analysis problem

2008-10-26 Thread LarryT
@okiebenz.com; Peter Merle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2008 1:27 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil analysis problem Interesting, the rebuild was 60,000 km ago? Thats not long at all, clearly something is wrong and unfortunately I'd have to guess that a teardown is the only way you're going