Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners

2010-12-07 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of WILTON Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2010 10:39 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners I've been using central vacs for 42 years; 'even designed and installed systems in IBM, ATT and DuPont labs at Research

Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners

2010-12-07 Thread Dieselhead
The places that sell them do installations all the time, including existing houses. Ones I have see used 1 1/2 plastic Anyone ever retro-fit a house with central vacuum? My house is two story, has crawl space easily accessible and attic as well. I've fished various wires down the walls from

Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners

2010-12-07 Thread WILTON
...@navy.mil To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 7:39 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners Anyone ever retro-fit a house with central vacuum? My house is two story, has crawl space easily accessible and attic as well. I've fished various

Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners

2010-12-07 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
Subject: Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners Yes, many. Usually, very easily; 'last one I retrofitted was the 3500 SF 105-year Georgian colonial revival (basement and crawlspace, 2 story, walk-up attic) house I've lived in for 22 years. I've often been able to find a chase big enough or, at times

Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners

2010-12-07 Thread R A Bennell
- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of WILTON Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2010 10:39 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners I've been using central vacs for 42 years; 'even designed and installed systems in IBM

Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners

2010-12-07 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
!) -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of R A Bennell Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 12:35 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners I did, many years ago. I ran the pipe for the second floor

Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners

2010-12-07 Thread Harry Watkins
be the way to go. Thanks Harry - Original Message - From: R A Bennell b...@mts.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 11:34 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners I did, many years ago. I ran the pipe for the second floor

Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners

2010-12-07 Thread R A Bennell
b...@mts.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 11:34 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners I did, many years ago. I ran the pipe for the second floor up through a closet on the main floor into a closet on the 2nd floor and then put

Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners

2010-12-07 Thread WILTON
, but that would be the way to go. Thanks Harry - Original Message - From: R A Bennell b...@mts.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 11:34 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners I did, many years ago. I ran the pipe

Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners

2010-12-07 Thread WILTON
I think it's unique to vac systems. Wilton - Original Message - From: R A Bennell b...@mts.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 2:53 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners I can buy pipe and fittings for central vacs

Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners

2010-12-07 Thread R A Bennell
...@mts.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 2:53 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners I can buy pipe and fittings for central vacs at Home Depot. It is not plumbing pipe but it is not unique either. I think all central vac pipe

Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners

2010-12-07 Thread Allan Streib
- Original Message - From: Harry Watkins harry...@bellsouth.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 1:46 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners The pipe I got was not sized to match up with regular plumbing pipe. I

Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners

2010-12-07 Thread WILTON
: Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners By not unique I just meant that all central vac pipe seems to be the same. I don't think the various brands of central vac machines use different pipe. Randy On 07/12/2010 2:02 PM, WILTON wrote: I think it's unique to vac systems. Wilton - Original

Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners

2010-12-07 Thread WILTON
: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners If you're building your own, you could use pvc plumbing pipe I'd think I guess the wall fittings might not mate up though. On Tue, 07 Dec 2010 15:00 -0500, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: I've seen only grey PVC for vac systems; doesn't fit plumbing PVC

Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners

2010-12-07 Thread Rich Thomas
- From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 4:31 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners If you're building your own, you could use pvc plumbing pipe I'd think I guess the wall fittings might not mate

Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners

2010-12-07 Thread R A Bennell
It does not appear to be an issue. One normally runs a wire along with the pipe anyway as it is part of the switch on the outlet setup that automatically turns on the vacuum unit when one inserts the hose end into the outlet. If there was a need for grounding, one would think they would

Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners

2010-12-07 Thread WILTON
Message - From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 4:31 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners If you're building your own, you could use pvc plumbing pipe I'd think I guess the wall fittings might

Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners

2010-12-07 Thread WILTON
: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 7:39 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners Anyone ever retro-fit a house with central vacuum? My house is two story, has crawl space easily accessible and attic as well. I've fished various wires down the walls from above - what size piping is required

[MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners

2010-12-07 Thread glenn brown
Just a word (or two) about central vacs. I installed a Sears central vac in a two story colonial back in the 80s . . . don't want to relive this even as a nightmare. My SO at the time had invited a Kirby salesman to the house for a free demo and rug cleaning. Since he had a clear plexiglas

Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners

2010-12-05 Thread Peter T. Arnold
Where does the Oreck's exhaust go On 12/5/2010 1:26 AM, Kevin Kraly wrote: SNIP Oreck, and it doesn't exhaust the dust back into the room. Even with it's filter which is NLA, the Sharp would still spew smelly, dusty exhaust while under way. Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon SNIP

Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners

2010-12-05 Thread John Reames
The oreck uses the paper bag as the filter; the new ones are made so that the bag has a guillotine that closes when you pull the bag. The older ones can be retrofitted. Btw almost all of the Orecks use the same bag (all the non retrofitted old ones use the old style bag and all of the rest use

Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners

2010-12-05 Thread Walt Zarnoch
I still like our old bagged Kirby, it has a personality that newer vacs lack. :) Walt On Dec 5, 2010 6:00 AM, Peter T. Arnold pm7...@comcast.net wrote: Where does the Oreck's exhaust go On 12/5/2010 1:26 AM, Kevin Kraly wrote: SNIP Oreck, and it doesn't exhaust the dust back into

Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners

2010-12-05 Thread Kevin Kraly
It's much the same way with an old Mercedes. It's not just another appliance, it has soul. I hang on to the old 1984 Kirby vacuum still at the ready with a new bag and belt. My wife figured that she would throw out the 20 year old vacuum (at the time), but I gave it new life with a belt and

Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners

2010-12-04 Thread Allan Streib
We have an Oreck. It's a good vacuum, better than the Royal it replaced, but I don't think they really live up to the legend. Open one up to change the belt---it's all plastic and the motor doesn't look like much. Hotels use them because they are light and they vacuum every day---they never

Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners

2010-12-04 Thread Curt Raymond
-0500 From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners Message-ID: 1291471598.9250.1408627...@webmail.messagingengine.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii We have an Oreck.  It's a good vacuum

Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners

2010-12-04 Thread LWB250
with central vacs, and I would do it again without hesitation. Dan --- On Sat, 12/4/10, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Saturday, December 4, 2010, 10:06 AM

Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners

2010-12-04 Thread WILTON
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2010 10:10 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners Central vacs are definitely the way to go. While the initial upfront cost is high, the convenience and efficiency of a central vac system blows (sucks

Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners

2010-12-04 Thread Kevin Kraly
There are very few metal vacuums out there these days. My parent's Oreck has lasted 10 years and shows no signs of quitting despite it's chassis' all plastic construction. I guess we'll see how long the screw holes last with disassembly and reassembly for cleaning and belt replacements over

Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners

2010-12-03 Thread John Reames
The oreck vacuums aren't bad (they keep on sucking!), and you can still get parts for a 30-some year old unit! -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Dec 2, 2010, at 22:10, Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com wrote: yes...those are nice...like an air

Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners

2010-12-03 Thread Kevin Kraly
I traded in an older Sharp vacuum who's parts are NLA, and got a $50 credit on a gently used Oreck deluxe XL for $129. He threw in a pack of 8 bags, a $18.99 value. My parents and I have been going to this vac mech for years, a good local business. I got The dyson back together and sucking

Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners

2010-12-03 Thread Kevin Kraly
They've been making Orecks with the same basic design for 47 years, man that's a long time! The new one has a LED light on the front, hepa outer bag and hepa filter bags as well. We'll see how it stacks up to the Dyson DC14 and the old Kirby Heritage II Legend. We have plenty of a challenge

Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners

2010-12-03 Thread LWB250
...@comcast.net wrote: From: Kevin Kraly kr...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Friday, December 3, 2010, 9:00 PM They've been making Orecks with the same basic design for 47 years, man that's a long time!  The new one

Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners

2010-12-03 Thread Dieselhead
I have always thought of the simple hoover and the electrolux as the 123 of vacuums, one canister and one upright for carpets. I have an electrolux that is probably 60 ot more years old, and I had a hoover for years that was old when I got it and is probably still working. BTW, parts are

Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners

2010-12-03 Thread Kevin Kraly
Maybe, it's the W124 of vacuums. The simpler bagged vacuums are even more easily serviceable. The Dyson, though it seperates into a few different parts, is straight forward to put back together after a thorough servicing/cleaning. Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon

Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners

2010-12-03 Thread Walt Zarnoch
They say, nothing sucks like electrolux! I prefer a box fan, some castors, a broom handle, and a pillow case. Walt On Dec 3, 2010 9:45 PM, Kevin Kraly kr...@comcast.net wrote: Maybe, it's the W124 of vacuums. The simpler bagged vacuums are even more easily serviceable. The Dyson, though it

Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners

2010-12-02 Thread Bob Rentfro
I KNOW Those Dysons are simple. They suck like mad. Easy to clean. I've had mine for almost 8 years and it still works as well as the day I bought it. They are indeed the W123 of vacuums. I'm thinking of springing for one of their handhelds, if they ever go on sale. Have you seen their cool

Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners

2010-12-02 Thread Kevin Kraly
I've heard of their fans, but never got my hands on one. I did get my hands IN one of the hand dryers that blows air from a slot on both sides, and your hands go down the middle. They are very efficient! He sure can come up with some innovative products. Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon

Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners

2010-12-02 Thread Bob Rentfro
yes...those are nice...like an air squeege Bob R On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 6:20 PM, Kevin Kraly kr...@comcast.net wrote: I've heard of their fans, but never got my hands on one. I did get my hands IN one of the hand dryers that blows air from a slot on both sides, and your hands go down the

[MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners

2010-12-01 Thread Kevin Kraly
I was getting frustrated with the low suction performance of my expen$ive Dyson DC14 vacuum cleaner when I thought, What Would Jim Cathey Do? Of course, he would plunge head long into the job and take apart every little piece to find the root of the problem, DIRT Once I found the model