Re: [MBZ] They took their ball and when home

2013-01-17 Thread Dan Penoff
I have never felt the need to have a gun, but I respect the rights of those who do as long as they act responsibly with them, which I believe is about 99% of the (legal) owners. We had guns in the house as a kid, but we all had to take a gun safety course when we were fairly young, maybe 10-12

Re: [MBZ] They took their ball and when home

2013-01-17 Thread Mitch Haley
Craig wrote: On Wed, 16 Jan 2013 23:30:58 -0500 Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: An armed society is a polite society I heard that attributed to Robert Heinlein, but I'm not sure that's true. It was in some of his books, but that doesn't mean he invented it. Mitch.

Re: [MBZ] They took their ball and when home

2013-01-17 Thread Jim Cathey
An armed society is a polite society I heard that attributed to Robert Heinlein, but I'm not sure that's true. He certainly used/popularized it, no idea if he coined it as well. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to

Re: [MBZ] They took their ball and when home

2013-01-17 Thread G Mann
Hmmm.. I'll have to grok on that. On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 9:30 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: An armed society is a polite society --R On 1/16/13 8:44 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: I wonder why anyone would feel secure knowing that I MIGHT be packing heat.

Re: [MBZ] They took their ball and when home

2013-01-17 Thread OK Don
A quick search of quotes all turn up Heinlein as the originator, for what it's worth. On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 10:01 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: An armed society is a polite society I heard that attributed to Robert Heinlein, but I'm not sure that's true. He certainly

Re: [MBZ] They took their ball and when home

2013-01-17 Thread Scott Ritchey
Andrew wrote: I wonder why anyone would feel secure knowing that I MIGHT be packing heat. The deterrent aspect of concealed carry is the fact that anyone in the victim pool could turn out to be trained and equipped to resist a crime with lethal force. Even if only a couple percent of the

Re: [MBZ] They took their ball and when home

2013-01-17 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
I doubt I could be any politer. On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 11:30 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: An armed society is a polite society --R On 1/16/13 8:44 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: I wonder why anyone would feel secure knowing that I MIGHT be packing heat. On

Re: [MBZ] They took their ball and when home

2013-01-17 Thread Dieselhead
In case you are not aware, the background checks for concealed carry licenses/permits are fairly extensive, particularly compared to the National Instant Criminal Background Check used by all licensed federal firearms dealers (AKA FFL) for all gun sales. and the NICBC is way more extensive

Re: [MBZ] They took their ball and when home

2013-01-17 Thread Mountain Man
Scott wrote: I must say that our media (even folks like O-Reilly) do a very poor job either researching or presenting (or both) the true facts when it comes to gun issues. Does anyone remember the beginning of talk radio and Rush Limbaugh? I also remember listening to Alan Berg, speaking of

Re: [MBZ] They took their ball and when home

2013-01-17 Thread Jim Cathey
There is no such thing as a 'gun show loophole. Indeed. The loophole (gotta be bad, right?) is also spelled private sale. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] They took their ball and when home

2013-01-16 Thread Mountain Man
Kaleb wrote: ...I have very little patience or respect for somebody who is scared of the very mention of guns. It is hardly fright about mention of guns. It is more along the lines that there ain't nuttin' to be said that hasn't been said for 50 years. No new information, no new arguments.

Re: [MBZ] They took their ball and when home

2013-01-16 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
I wonder why anyone would feel secure knowing that I MIGHT be packing heat. On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 8:35 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: Kaleb wrote: ...I have very little patience or respect for somebody who is scared of the very mention of guns. It is hardly fright about

Re: [MBZ] They took their ball and when home

2013-01-16 Thread Mountain Man
Andrew wrote: I wonder why anyone would feel secure knowing that I MIGHT be packing heat. Yep. Ain't no security in packing heat for you or anyone. However, when the principle is framed on the order of air/water/life, i.e. endowed by their *** - ya gotta remember those old documents... - then

Re: [MBZ] They took their ball and when home

2013-01-16 Thread Jim Cathey
...I have very little patience or respect for somebody who is scared of the very mention of guns. It is hardly fright about mention of guns. I disagree. If boredom alone drove people off, any OT discussion of a PC acting flakey would have done it. Or maybe an oil thread? I've met them

Re: [MBZ] They took their ball and when home

2013-01-16 Thread G Mann
I would like to post on this thread, however, I'm not sure what area I'm posting in. Would someone mind telling me if this is the proper banned area or where am I? Oh.. and how do I tell? Thank you, Grant... On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 6:35 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: Kaleb

Re: [MBZ] They took their ball and when home

2013-01-16 Thread Craig
On Wed, 16 Jan 2013 20:02:01 -0700 G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: I would like to post on this thread, however, I'm not sure what area I'm posting in. Would someone mind telling me if this is the proper banned area or where am I? Oh.. and how do I tell? Thank you, Grant... Someone

Re: [MBZ] They took their ball and when home

2013-01-16 Thread G Mann
Ahhh.. the subtle indicator to look for.. I thank you. I go forth now to sin in the Banned thread... perhaps.. Grant... -who has only been A Banned oned.. not Banned.. yet- On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 8:30 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Wed, 16 Jan 2013 20:02:01 -0700 G Mann

Re: [MBZ] They took their ball and when home

2013-01-16 Thread Rich Thomas
An armed society is a polite society --R On 1/16/13 8:44 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: I wonder why anyone would feel secure knowing that I MIGHT be packing heat. On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 8:35 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: Kaleb wrote: ...I have very little patience or respect

Re: [MBZ] They took their ball and when home

2013-01-16 Thread Craig
On Wed, 16 Jan 2013 23:30:58 -0500 Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: An armed society is a polite society I heard that attributed to Robert Heinlein, but I'm not sure that's true. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used

Re: [MBZ] They took their ball and when home

2013-01-16 Thread Max Dillon
I have never been as scared as when I was surrounded by Navy armed with M-16 rifles, with very little training and no supervision. Army was training a bunch of us up to supplement them in Iraq, Army weapons training and Navy weapons training are two very different things. Most Sailors (up

Re: [MBZ] They took their ball and when home

2013-01-16 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
You do not know what list you are signed up for? It says mbz in the subject line Sent from my iPhone On Jan 16, 2013, at 9:02 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: I would like to post on this thread, however, I'm not sure what area I'm posting in. Would someone mind telling me if this is

Re: [MBZ] They took their ball and when home

2013-01-16 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
It's amazing some folks you would normally think of as being intelligent when you bring it up they just think nobody should have guns, they have never felt the need to have one so nobody should have them. When you try to explain that is great they have never been in that situation but if they

[MBZ] They took their ball and when home

2013-01-15 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Oh well dojo...@dcacable.net has been removed from Mercedes. walton.d...@gmail.com has been removed from Mercedes. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To

Re: [MBZ] They took their ball and when home

2013-01-15 Thread OK Don
Two out of how many? Not too bad. On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 7:29 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: Oh well dojo...@dcacable.net has been removed from Mercedes. walton.d...@gmail.com has been removed from Mercedes. __**_

Re: [MBZ] They took their ball and when home

2013-01-15 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I do not mean to offend anyone but I have very little patience or respect for somebody who is scared of the very mention of guns. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 15, 2013, at 8:13 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: Two out of how many? Not too bad. On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 7:29 PM, Kaleb C.

Re: [MBZ] They took their ball and when home

2013-01-15 Thread Mitch Haley
I don't recognize Jones, but Dave had some good MBZ info. Mitch. Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Oh well dojo...@dcacable.net has been removed from Mercedes. walton.d...@gmail.com has been removed from Mercedes. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used