Re: [MBZ] Voltage

2021-11-24 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
It’s the higher end HF model. Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 24, 2021, at 2:12 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes > wrote: > > What sort of meter are you using? > Cheap digital voltmeters are often not all that accurate. > > >> On 24/11/2021 1:40 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: >> I am

Re: [MBZ] Voltage

2021-11-24 Thread mitch--- via Mercedes
On 2021-11-24 15:28, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote: I like to work _as if_ the wires are 'hot', even though I've taken measures to ensure they are not. That way, you _can't_ die even if something goes wrong! Always good to make sure the gun is unloaded. Always bad to point it at your head

Re: [MBZ] Voltage

2021-11-24 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> I get about 5-6 volts on one of the hots and about 3 on the other. Is this > phantom voltage safe and where does it come from? Either capacitive coupling, or resistive leakage. Likely there is no significant current available at those voltages. Your meter has many megohms of input

Re: [MBZ] Voltage

2021-11-24 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
What sort of meter are you using? Cheap digital voltmeters are often not all that accurate. On 24/11/2021 1:40 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: I am getting ready to wire up the lift to 220. At my 220 box with the breaker off. I get about 5-6 bolts on one of the hots and about 3 on the

Re: [MBZ] Voltage

2021-11-24 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Did you put the MAIN breaker to OFF? or are you leaving the MAIN on and trying to only work a 220 leg? Put the MAIN breaker to OFF, and retry for voltage.. you should have ZERO electric on the system. Be safe... but, just in case, make sure your life insurance is paid in full and that we are

Re: [MBZ] Voltage

2021-11-24 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
Use your tongue. If it’s a phantom voltage you won’t feel a thing. -D > On Nov 24, 2021, at 2:40 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > I am getting ready to wire up the lift to 220. At my 220 box with the breaker > off. I get about 5-6 bolts on one of the hots and about 3 on the

[MBZ] Voltage

2021-11-24 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
I am getting ready to wire up the lift to 220. At my 220 box with the breaker off. I get about 5-6 bolts on one of the hots and about 3 on the other. Is this phantom voltage safe and where does it come from? When I turn the breaker on, I get the full 120 volts on each side. Sent from my

Re: [MBZ] Voltage

2013-01-17 Thread Jon Agne
Actually started thinking of a new battery as well. It was in the car when I bought it. On Jan 16, 2013, at 9:54 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: Hmmm. Is this the voltage regulator perhaps wearing? I cannot believe the fogs draw that muchit never did that before. Your battery is not

Re: [MBZ] Voltage

2013-01-17 Thread Jon Agne
I'll make sure it stays in the garage the next time you are in town! On Jan 16, 2013, at 11:20 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Seems like your car caught what my car had:) Sent from my iPhone On Jan 16, 2013, at 5:53 PM, Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net wrote: Yes. After it stops snowing.

Re: [MBZ] Voltage

2013-01-17 Thread dseretakis
Haha. Might want to give it a rub down with hand sanitizer too:) Sent from my iPhone On Jan 17, 2013, at 7:27 AM, Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net wrote: I'll make sure it stays in the garage the next time you are in town! On Jan 16, 2013, at 11:20 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Seems like

[MBZ] Voltage

2013-01-16 Thread Jon Agne
Something strange happened on the way to the forum today..actually my doctor appointment this morning Being in Maine it was still dark, and snowy, and foggy, etc., etc. So I had the lights, wipers, and rear defog on. Blower was on a medium speed. When I turned on the fog lights at a

Re: [MBZ] Voltage

2013-01-16 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Slipping alternator belt?? On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 5:02 PM, Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net wrote: Something strange happened on the way to the forum today..actually my doctor appointment this morning Being in Maine it was still dark, and snowy, and foggy, etc., etc. So I had the lights,

Re: [MBZ] Voltage

2013-01-16 Thread Jon Agne
Well, I do need new belts. I've just been putting that job off. On Jan 16, 2013, at 5:09 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Slipping alternator belt?? On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 5:02 PM, Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net wrote: Something strange happened on the way to the forum today..actually my

Re: [MBZ] Voltage

2013-01-16 Thread Max Dillon
Apparently the fog lights draw enough, combined with the rest, to push your creasing system over the edge. Sure sounds like your alternator/battery is unable to carry the load, but the battery alone should have kept everything running. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73

Re: [MBZ] Voltage

2013-01-16 Thread Jon Agne
The only thing that dropped off-line was the Alpine radiowho knows, maybe there is built in protection. On Jan 16, 2013, at 5:20 PM, Max Dillon wrote: Apparently the fog lights draw enough, combined with the rest, to push your creasing system over the edge. Sure sounds like your

Re: [MBZ] Voltage

2013-01-16 Thread Craig
On Wed, 16 Jan 2013 16:20:44 -0600 Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Apparently the fog lights draw enough, combined with the rest, to push your creasing system over the edge. Sure sounds like your alternator/battery is unable to carry the load, but the battery alone should have

Re: [MBZ] Voltage

2013-01-16 Thread Max Dillon
Sounds like you could easily duplicate the conditions, measure voltage at the battery and see what's going on. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net wrote: The only thing that dropped off-line was the Alpine radiowho knows, maybe there is

Re: [MBZ] Voltage

2013-01-16 Thread Jon Agne
Yes. After it stops snowing. On Jan 16, 2013, at 5:40 PM, Max Dillon wrote: Sounds like you could easily duplicate the conditions, measure voltage at the battery and see what's going on. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net wrote:

Re: [MBZ] Voltage

2013-01-16 Thread Curt Raymond
Sounds like its terminal, I'll give you $500 for it... ;) -Curt Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 17:28:00 -0500 From: Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Voltage Message-ID: 9fa52e87-ab4d-4d08-b6d3-2215c7f68...@gwi.net Content-Type: text/plain

Re: [MBZ] Voltage

2013-01-16 Thread Jon Agne
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Voltage Message-ID: 9fa52e87-ab4d-4d08-b6d3-2215c7f68...@gwi.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii The only thing that dropped off-line was the Alpine radiowho knows, maybe there is built in protection. On Jan 16, 2013, at 5:20 PM, Max Dillon wrote

Re: [MBZ] Voltage

2013-01-16 Thread Fmiser
On Jan 16, 2013, at 5:40 PM, Max Dillon wrote: Sounds like you could easily duplicate the conditions, measure voltage at the battery and see what's going on. Jon Agne wrote: Yes. After it stops snowing. You can measure the voltage from inside the cabin, say at the cigarette lighter.

Re: [MBZ] Voltage

2013-01-16 Thread Jim Cathey
Hmmm. Is this the voltage regulator perhaps wearing? I cannot believe the fogs draw that muchit never did that before. Your battery is not charged, else you would not have noticed. That usually implies alternator/VR problems, that have been around a little while --- long enough for the

Re: [MBZ] Voltage

2013-01-16 Thread dseretakis
Seems like your car caught what my car had:) Sent from my iPhone On Jan 16, 2013, at 5:53 PM, Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net wrote: Yes. After it stops snowing. On Jan 16, 2013, at 5:40 PM, Max Dillon wrote: Sounds like you could easily duplicate the conditions, measure voltage at the

Re: [MBZ] Voltage drop

2008-04-01 Thread RELNGSON
How about measuring the voltage drop on the wire from the battery to the starter? Positive lead on the battery terminal, negative lead on the starter terminal ... While operating the starter, of course. RLE ** Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL

[MBZ] Voltage

2007-06-21 Thread Levi Smith
Just curious if anyone else has taken much look at their voltages. I picked up a cigarette lighter voltage meter at Wal-mart for like $15 that I'm intending to use in some solar tinkering, but I decided to leave it in my 83' 300D while it's not doing anything else. This has proved interesting.

Re: [MBZ] Voltage

2007-06-21 Thread Jim Cathey
So, I guess my question is, is this normal for an old alternator on an old car? To my knowledge, your voltage is *supposed* to be at least 13.2V. You're about a volt low for these days. I think 14.4 is about normal, the old-time voltage was 13.8. Anything less is deficit spending! My 190D

Re: [MBZ] Voltage

2007-06-21 Thread Levi Smith
Well, I'm sure 14.4 is more where it should be, but as far as I knew, 13.2was supposed to be the normal voltage of a charged battery, so as long as you had at least that much then the battery should be staying pretty well charged. above 14V sounds more like it should be and I believe as long as

Re: [MBZ] Voltage

2007-06-21 Thread Fmiser
It seems than at Thu, 21 Jun 2007 09:34:17 -0700, Jim wrote: So, I guess my question is, is this normal for an old alternator on an old car? To my knowledge, your voltage is *supposed* to be at least 13.2V. You're about a volt low for these days. I think 14.4 is about normal, the

Re: [MBZ] Voltage

2007-06-21 Thread Levi Smith
Yeah, that's why I was saying that it was reading about .2v lower than the battery was seeing(via my fairly decent regular voltmeter). Though I'd more likely attribute that to losses in the wiring between the battery and the cigarette lighter... Levi On 6/21/07, Fmiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [MBZ] Voltage

2007-06-21 Thread Scott Ritchey
Ritchey 82 300SD 70 300TD -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Levi Smith Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 11:51 To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Voltage Just curious if anyone else has taken much look at their voltages. I picked up

Re: [MBZ] Voltage

2007-06-21 Thread Curt Raymond
the alternator (or the regulator first and then the alternator if need be) now or replace the alternator AND battery soon. -Curt Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 12:42:15 -0400 From: Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Voltage To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID

Re: [MBZ] Voltage

2007-06-21 Thread Levi Smith
: Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Voltage To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Well, I'm sure 14.4 is more where it should be, but as far as I knew, 13.2was supposed

[MBZ] Voltage Protection Relay

2006-12-14 Thread Frederick W Moir
Hi, All. 190DT 1987. I'm trying to track down an electrical problem. The washer pump works when jumped, but not by pushing the stalk. The #1 fuse has no power on it when ign. switched on. Perusing the ETM and the (P)Hanes manual there is some question that there is a voltage protection relay

Re: [MBZ] Voltage Protection Relay

2006-12-14 Thread Marshall Booth
Frederick W Moir wrote: Hi, All. 190DT 1987. I'm trying to track down an electrical problem. The washer pump works when jumped, but not by pushing the stalk. The #1 fuse has no power on it when ign. switched on. Perusing the ETM and the (P)Hanes manual there is some question that there is a

Re: [MBZ] Voltage Protection Relay

2006-12-14 Thread Frederick W Moir
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Re: [MBZ] Voltage Protection Relay

2006-12-14 Thread Jim Cathey
there is some question that there is a voltage protection relay somewhere in the system. There are some charts that say that it is in the relay/fuse box and there is a position for it. Amongst the missing though. Any useful insights appreciated. It has a 10A GM-type blade fuse in it, check

Re: [MBZ] Voltage and lack of same

2006-12-06 Thread RELNGSON
The answer to A is YES. I had a 280Z that would not turn over the engine. The battery indicated a full 12 volts, all the connections were clean and tight, but it would not turn the starter. Measuring voltage without a load is a waste of time. If you had turned the lights on and used a

Re: [MBZ] Voltage Regulator Test

2006-08-24 Thread Jim Cathey
I may want to test the VR, but I'm not sure how to do it. Put a voltmeter on the battery and observe. -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Voltage Regulator Test

2006-08-24 Thread Bill Gallagher
Plus, turn on the heater, headlights, flasher, etc to put a load on the system. The voltage should be within a range of about 12.5 to 13.25 volts with and without the load . Bill 1981 399 TD Jim Cathey wrote: I may want to test the VR, but I'm not sure how to do it. Put a

Re: [MBZ] Voltage Regulator Test

2006-08-24 Thread LarryT
: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 7:54 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Voltage Regulator Test I may want to test the VR, but I'm not sure how to do it. Put a voltmeter on the battery and observe. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor

Re: [MBZ] Voltage Regulator Test

2006-08-24 Thread Jim Cathey
How does this kind of test show if the alt is bad (or good) and the VR is bad (or good)? The voltage should hold within acceptable range under the full range of load conditions. Or is the VR the only thing that will typically go bad in a alternator? No. Lots of other things can go wrong.

Re: [MBZ] Voltage Regulator Test

2006-08-24 Thread Marshall Booth
LarryT wrote: Howdy, After replacing my alternator was wondering how the VR might be tested? I replaced the alternator because it was not charging and I didn't know the history of the alternator so I changed the whole thing. If I have a problem with the charging system again I may want to

Re: [MBZ] Voltage Regulator Test

2006-08-24 Thread John W. Reames III
On Wed, 23 Aug 2006, LarryT wrote: Or is the VR the only thing that will typically go bad in a alternator? Diode packs CAN fail. The VR also has the brushes which wear, and it has a spring/leaf connection to the diode pack. That can develop corrosion with ... interesting... results. Remove

[MBZ] Voltage Regulator Test

2006-08-23 Thread LarryT
Howdy, After replacing my alternator was wondering how the VR might be tested? I replaced the alternator because it was not charging and I didn't know the history of the alternator so I changed the whole thing. If I have a problem with the charging system again I may want to test the VR,

[MBZ] voltage regulator question w123

2005-11-21 Thread dieselbenz24
How difficult is it to install a voltage regulator ? How do you go about that ? Dan Elliott 82 300D-T 88kmi Check Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- 2 GB of storage and industry-leading spam and email virus protection.

Re: [MBZ] voltage regulator question w123

2005-11-21 Thread TimothyPilgrim
If it's the stock Bosch alternator, I do believe the regulator is on the outside of the alt housing. Therefore you should be able to easily unbolt the old one and hook up the new one. I, unfortunately, have a Delco on mine thanks to a PO who believed in monkeying with a good thing, and the

Re: [MBZ] voltage regulator question w123

2005-11-21 Thread Jim Cathey
How difficult is it to install a voltage regulator? Easy. Two small bolts on the back of the alternator. -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] voltage regulator question w123

2005-11-21 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Takes about 2 minutes, 1 minute per screw. Its just mounted to the back of the alternator. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How difficult is it to install a voltage regulator ? How do you go about that ? Dan Elliott 82 300D-T 88kmi

Re: [MBZ] voltage regulator question w123

2005-11-21 Thread Potter, Tom E
- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 7:42 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] voltage regulator question w123 How difficult is it to install a voltage regulator ? How do you go about that ? Dan Elliott 82 300D-T 88kmi

Re: [MBZ] voltage regulator question w123

2005-11-21 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
: (713) 215-2877 Fax: (713) 215-2551 Mobile: (832) 794-0536 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 7:42 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] voltage regulator question w123 How difficult

[MBZ] voltage regulator question w123

2005-11-18 Thread dieselbenz24
Hearing about the lifespan of a voltage regulator being about 150kmi for a w124 makes me think about mine. Does this same limit apply to the w123 ? Also, how difficult is it to install one of these ? How do you go about that ? TIA, Dan Elliott 82 300D-T 88kmi ps Adjusted my valves this