Re: [MBZ] What Should I Start Amassing?

2008-02-18 Thread Robert Rentfro
I'll take your word for it. Bob R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Luther Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2008 6:05 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] What Should I Start Amassing? Or by cranking the engine so each cylinder

Re: [MBZ] What Should I Start Amassing?

2008-02-18 Thread Jim Cathey
Valve stem seals are very sensitive and a painstaking process... I had a 450SL that smoked vilely due to damaged seals on one cylinder. (It also fouled that plug quickly.) I replaced only the two and drove it for thousands of miles and several years before selling the car. Cured the problem

Re: [MBZ] What Should I Start Amassing?

2008-02-18 Thread Robert Rentfro
Mitch typed: I'd unhook the breather tube from the valve cover, or reroute it to a jar. If the car quits burning oil and sprays it out the breather instead, you might see if there's a big gap in the breather tube in the valve cover. If the oil still comes out the exhaust without the breather

Re: [MBZ] What Should I Start Amassing?

2008-02-18 Thread Robert Rentfro
: [MBZ] What Should I Start Amassing? Valve stem seals are very sensitive and a painstaking process... I had a 450SL that smoked vilely due to damaged seals on one cylinder. (It also fouled that plug quickly.) I replaced only the two and drove it for thousands of miles and several years before

Re: [MBZ] What Should I Start Amassing?

2008-02-18 Thread Mitch Haley
Robert Rentfro wrote: So you think it might simply be valve stem seals? Do you have that evolution documented on a web page? I'd unhook the breather tube from the valve cover, or reroute it to a jar. If the car quits burning oil and sprays it out the breather instead, you might see if there's

Re: [MBZ] What Should I Start Amassing?

2008-02-18 Thread Jim Cathey
So you think it might simply be valve stem seals? I do not know. I was sweating the SL's problem, but decided to risk the small price of a seal kit and some time before diving into major engine work. Fortunately for me it worked. -- Jim ___

Re: [MBZ] What Should I Start Amassing?

2008-02-18 Thread LarryT
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 10:58 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] What Should I Start Amassing? So you think it might simply be valve stem seals? Do you have that evolution documented on a web page? Bob R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf

Re: [MBZ] What Should I Start Amassing?

2008-02-18 Thread Peter Frederick
Generally, if a diesel starts easily when stone cold, there are not compression problems, and oil consumption must then be bad valve guide seals (often compounded by loose valve stem to guide clearance) or failed oil control rings. You won't see smoke until you are REALLY burning oil,

Re: [MBZ] What Should I Start Amassing?

2008-02-17 Thread archer
Marshall would have suggested an Italian Tuneup, wouldn't he? Gerry -- From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd try to find a known good engine, and swap it --- On Feb 16, 2008 9:15 PM, Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm at 190K miles. Oil usage is

Re: [MBZ] What Should I Start Amassing?

2008-02-17 Thread Robert Rentfro
It's smoking enough that it may not pass the opacity test in August. Bob R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Hurst Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 8:20 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] What Should I Start Amassing

Re: [MBZ] What Should I Start Amassing?

2008-02-17 Thread Robert Rentfro
Of Mitch Haley Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 9:33 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] What Should I Start Amassing? OK Don wrote: I'd try to find a known good engine, and swap it --- I'd check out the vacuum pump and first. ___ http

Re: [MBZ] What Should I Start Amassing?

2008-02-17 Thread Gary Hurst
: Saturday, February 16, 2008 8:20 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] What Should I Start Amassing? i wouldn't do anything but drive it On Feb 16, 2008 10:18 PM, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd try to find a known good engine, and swap it --- On Feb 16, 2008 9:15 PM

Re: [MBZ] What Should I Start Amassing?

2008-02-17 Thread Robert Rentfro
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of archer Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2008 7:31 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] What Should I Start Amassing? Marshall would have suggested an Italian Tuneup, wouldn't he? Gerry -- From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd try

Re: [MBZ] What Should I Start Amassing?

2008-02-17 Thread Robert Rentfro
Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] What Should I Start Amassing? I'd try to find a known good engine, and swap it --- On Feb 16, 2008 9:15 PM, Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm at 190K miles. Oil usage is consistently at 1 qt per 650 miles or so. It's burning, not dripping or getting

Re: [MBZ] What Should I Start Amassing?

2008-02-17 Thread Robert Rentfro
: [MBZ] What Should I Start Amassing? we don't have the kind of stuff in georgia On Feb 17, 2008 9:45 AM, Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's smoking enough that it may not pass the opacity test in August. Bob R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: [MBZ] What Should I Start Amassing?

2008-02-17 Thread Peter Frederick
And then put valve guide seals on it. May need valve guides, and if so, likely new valves from seat wear. Peter OK Don wrote: I'd try to find a known good engine, and swap it --- I'd check out the vacuum pump and crankcase breather/PCV first. ___

Re: [MBZ] What Should I Start Amassing?

2008-02-17 Thread Luther
Or by cranking the engine so each cylinder is at TDC when you work on it's valves. Valve stem seals are very sensitive and a pain-staking process, don't ask me how I know Luther On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 18:50:49 -0600, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Bob, An engine that smokes after a

Re: [MBZ] What Should I Start Amassing?

2008-02-17 Thread LarryT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 10:15 PM Subject: [MBZ] What Should I Start Amassing? I'm at 190K miles. Oil usage is consistently at 1 qt per 650 miles or so. It's burning, not dripping or getting into the air cleaner

[MBZ] What Should I Start Amassing?

2008-02-16 Thread Robert Rentfro
I'm at 190K miles. Oil usage is consistently at 1 qt per 650 miles or so. It's burning, not dripping or getting into the air cleaner housing. Smokes more now on acceleration and at idle. Suppose it's time to address it. What do you think I'll have to do? What should I start buying now from

Re: [MBZ] What Should I Start Amassing?

2008-02-16 Thread OK Don
I'd try to find a known good engine, and swap it --- On Feb 16, 2008 9:15 PM, Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm at 190K miles. Oil usage is consistently at 1 qt per 650 miles or so. It's burning, not dripping or getting into the air cleaner housing. Smokes more now on acceleration

Re: [MBZ] What Should I Start Amassing?

2008-02-16 Thread Gary Hurst
i wouldn't do anything but drive it On Feb 16, 2008 10:18 PM, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd try to find a known good engine, and swap it --- On Feb 16, 2008 9:15 PM, Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm at 190K miles. Oil usage is consistently at 1 qt per 650 miles or so.

Re: [MBZ] What Should I Start Amassing?

2008-02-16 Thread Mitch Haley
OK Don wrote: I'd try to find a known good engine, and swap it --- I'd check out the vacuum pump and crankcase breather/PCV first. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL