Re: [MBZ] definition

2008-08-15 Thread Jim Cathey
ad ho·mi·nem –adjective As explained to me in Philosophy 201, Logic, it (Latin for to the man) is a term meaning to attack the man as a means of attacking his position. It's one of the classical fallacies. The other Latin one I remember is post hoc ergo propter hoc (follows, therefore caused

Re: [MBZ] definition

2008-08-15 Thread andrew strasfogel
Okiebenz U. needs to become accredited as a School of Higher Education so I can get a tangible reward for all my time wasting. On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 2:28 AM, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ad ho·mi·nem –adjective As explained to me in Philosophy 201, Logic, it (Latin for to the

Re: [MBZ] definition

2008-08-15 Thread Rich Thomas
Yes, a right-wing elitist, clinging to my guns, bibles, and against immigrants. A member of a half-vast conspiracy. --R andrew strasfogel wrote: Why did you write victuals instead of vittles? Are you a closet elitist? On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 4:43 PM, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [MBZ] definition

2008-08-14 Thread RELNGSON
...Moronic, stupid, unfunny, ad hominen attack The only other person I've ever seen use the term ad hominem is VanCleef. I still don't know what it means, RLE ** Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos.

Re: [MBZ] definition

2008-08-14 Thread Rich Thomas
It's when you shoot the messenger instead of the message, literally to the man. You will notice a lot of this in political discourse when someone on one side (the hearer) disagrees with something one on another side said (the sayer), and starts trashing the sayer as a person, rather than

Re: [MBZ] definition

2008-08-14 Thread Chuck Landenberger
FWIW, Here's what Dictionary.com sez: ad ho·mi·nem  –adjective 1. appealing to one's prejudices, emotions, or special interests rather than to one's intellect or reason. 2. attacking an opponent's character rather than answering his argument. Take care, Chuck On Aug 14, 2008, at 12:01

Re: [MBZ] definition

2008-08-14 Thread Loren Faeth
means with hominy : 0 At 02:01 PM 8/14/2008, you wrote: ...Moronic, stupid, unfunny, ad hominen attack The only other person I've ever seen use the term ad hominem is VanCleef. I still don't know what it means, RLE ** Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in

Re: [MBZ] definition

2008-08-14 Thread Wilton Strickland
'Used to help my mom MAKE hominy occasionally - really. Wilton - Original Message - From: Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 3:55 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] definition means with hominy : 0 At 02:01 PM 8/14

Re: [MBZ] definition

2008-08-14 Thread Rich Thomas
Speaking of which, if anyone is ever in Charleston SC there is a little restaurant called The Hominy Grill that has some extremely yummy victuals, and has been lauded by all the big name chefs and magazines, etc. It's in an old barber shop in an old neighborhood, very nice to spend an hour or

Re: [MBZ] definition

2008-08-14 Thread andrew strasfogel
Why did you write victuals instead of vittles? Are you a closet elitist? On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 4:43 PM, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Speaking of which, if anyone is ever in Charleston SC there is a little restaurant called The Hominy Grill that has some extremely yummy victuals,

Re: [MBZ] definition

2008-08-14 Thread Chuck Landenberger
Andrew. Merriam-Webster.com provides the following: Main Entry: 1vict·ual  Pronunciation: \ˈvi-təl\ Function: noun Etymology: Middle English vitaille, victuayle, from Anglo-French, from Late Latin victualia, plural, provisions, victuals, from neuter plural of victualis of nourishment,

Re: [MBZ] definition of a volvo driver

2008-08-10 Thread Rich Thomas
Howie Cah has some advice for you Volvo drivers http://news.bostonherald.com/news/opinion/columnists/view/2008_08_10_John_Edwards_scandal_too_much_even_for_a_moonbat/srvc=homeposition=3 --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor:

Re: [MBZ] definition of a volvo driver

2008-08-09 Thread George Larribeau
On Fri, 2008-08-08 at 19:01 -0400, Mitch Haley wrote: I regret making that Traction Avant comment. Looked up a picture of it after I sent that message, and it was pretty nifty. There use to be a street rod here in Dallas made out of one of those .. I don't know what it is about the French

Re: [MBZ] definition of a volvo driver

2008-08-09 Thread Mitch Haley
George Larribeau wrote: My mothers father had a Louisiana French name. Acadian? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery

Re: [MBZ] definition of a volvo driver

2008-08-08 Thread George Larribeau
Hahaha..VOLVO= VERY ODD LOOKING VEHICULAR OBJECT. On that note, if Then sir what is a Citroen DS21 George Larribeau Dallas Texas ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts

Re: [MBZ] definition of a volvo driver

2008-08-08 Thread Mitch Haley
George Larribeau wrote: Hahaha..VOLVO= VERY ODD LOOKING VEHICULAR OBJECT. On that note, if Then sir what is a Citroen DS21 A whole lot prettier than a Deux Chevaux Vapeur (2CV) or a Traction Avant? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new

Re: [MBZ] definition of a volvo driver

2008-08-08 Thread George Larribeau
A whole lot prettier than a Deux Chevaux Vapeur (2CV) or a Traction Avant? Mitch. I had a friend when I lived in San Francisco that had a 2CV .. Had a dip stick for a gas gauge and a knob on the dash that adjusted the ignition timing that was calibrated in octane. George Larribeau Dallas

Re: [MBZ] definition of a volvo driver

2008-08-08 Thread Mitch Haley
I regret making that Traction Avant comment. Looked up a picture of it after I sent that message, and it was pretty nifty. I can remember a RT writer doing an article on taking a trip in a 2CV truck, which he likened to a sloth trying to escape from a quonset hut, and I had to agree with him.

Re: [MBZ] definition of a volvo driver

2008-08-07 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
@okiebenz.com From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] definition of a volvo driver One of my good friends frequently quips: Beware of people driving Volvos, because so many seem to drive in a world of their own, ensconced in their cocoon of safety, oblivious to traffic, and seemingly

Re: [MBZ] definition of a volvo driver

2008-08-07 Thread Mitch Haley
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: if Volvo made an exact reproduction of the 89 240 today, I might actually consider buying a new car. What about the 122 and 544? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/

Re: [MBZ] definition of a volvo driver

2008-08-07 Thread andrew strasfogel
I had a 1959 Volvo P 544S IIRC back in grad school (1969) that was great fun to drive. It could cruised along at 77 all day long, 4 speed on a LONG stick, and when you got out of the car you felt refreshed and not the least bit achy because the orthopedic seats. I bought it for $425 and sold it

Re: [MBZ] definition of a volvo driver

2008-08-07 Thread Frederick W Moir
Hi, All. Yes, what about the 544 and 122? I Had an 64 PV544 for two whole weeks, before the center mount for the rear suspension tore free from the body and pole-vaulted me into the weeds. Also had a very fine 1967 P222 (122S wagon ) that I adored. Unfortunately it was mine during my divorce

Re: [MBZ] definition of a volvo driver

2008-08-07 Thread pm7088
My family bought a new 1969 144s, 4 spd. I inherited it at about 75Kmi. Drove it to about 160Kmi, it started using oil. Being young dumb, I yanked engine to O'haul it. Everything inside (Cylinders, Bearings, etc) were at NEW product specs! The damn thing only needed valve seals. I

Re: [MBZ] definition of a volvo driver

2008-08-07 Thread Kevin Kraly
What about the 122 and 544? My dad and I once had a 1958 Volvo 444, black with orange flames on the front end (PO must have thought they were cool. Perhaps, the flames were an easy way to spot his teenaged daughter around town? It is basically the same body as the 544 but with oblong tail

Re: [MBZ] definition of a volvo driver

2008-08-07 Thread OK Don
Used to work on both the 544 and the 122 in the '60s when I was working in a foreign car shop (college days) - liked both of them. There was a 544 running in a local gymkhana (sp?) with wide Goodyear Blue Streak tires. He managed to tip the car over trying to break the tires loose in corners! Talk

Re: [MBZ] definition of a volvo driver

2008-08-07 Thread andrew strasfogel
In those days Volvo was more a cult car than a political stereotype. On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 8:04 PM, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Used to work on both the 544 and the 122 in the '60s when I was working in a foreign car shop (college days) - liked both of them. There was a 544 running in a

[MBZ] definition of a volvo driver

2008-08-06 Thread Donald Snook
Found this definition of a Volvo driver on line. Volvo drivers are people who value quality and safety over ostentation. They are often liberal, well educated, and upper middle class. Volvo drivers appreciate the cars' understated comfort and the manufacturer's concern for the environment.

Re: [MBZ] definition of a volvo driver

2008-08-06 Thread Rich Thomas
You want preppy, you gotta drive a Saab. Volvos are for a different crowd, the prepster's parents, or handed down to the prepster from the parents when they finally bought the Benz. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTU2He2BIc0 This little parody is so spot-on, it's hilarious. Hard tea in the

Re: [MBZ] definition of a volvo driver

2008-08-06 Thread Allan Streib
One of my good friends frequently quips: Beware of people driving Volvos, because so many seem to drive in a world of their own, ensconced in their cocoon of safety, oblivious to traffic, and seemingly, everything else except their own destination... Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: