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2016-06-13 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
> From: Mercedes <mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com> on behalf of Andrew > Strasfogel via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > Sent: 13 June 2016 18:26 > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Cc: Andrew Strasfogel > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Next question > &g

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2016-06-13 Thread Fred Moir via Mercedes
sion List Cc: Andrew Strasfogel Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Next question Without me, what would you all talk about? Someone owes me a b**r. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options

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2016-06-13 Thread Joel Cairo via Mercedes
e about him giving his driving privilege too for that matter... -Curt From: Randy Bennell via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Cc: Randy Bennell <rbenn...@bennell.ca> Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 3:50 PM Subject: Re: [M

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2016-06-13 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
ennell via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Cc: Randy Bennell <rbenn...@bennell.ca> Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 3:50 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Next question On 13/06/2016 2:42 PM, Joel Cairo via Mercedes wrote: > Driving is

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2016-06-13 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Well said. On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 3:50 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > On 13/06/2016 2:42 PM, Joel Cairo via Mercedes wrote: > >> Driving is a privilege, it is not a right as enumerated in the >> Constitution. So, driving can be subject to various regulations;

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2016-06-13 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
On 13/06/2016 2:42 PM, Joel Cairo via Mercedes wrote: Driving is a privilege, it is not a right as enumerated in the Constitution. So, driving can be subject to various regulations; whereas, a Constitutional right should not be subject to regulation. --R I normally try to keep out of

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2016-06-13 Thread Joel Cairo via Mercedes
kids were in driver's ed and THAT was strenuous... -Curt From: Rick Knoble <rickkno...@hotmail.com> To: Curt Raymond via Mercedes <curtlud...@yahoo.com> Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 3:14 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Next question Curt inquires: ‎>So taking this to t

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2016-06-13 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
to Germany on a student exchange, some of the kids were in driver's ed and THAT was strenuous... -Curt From: Rick Knoble <rickkno...@hotmail.com> To: Curt Raymond via Mercedes <curtlud...@yahoo.com> Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 3:14 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Next question Curt

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2016-06-13 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
We/she is addicted to Blue Bloods. Formulaic but always compelling, well scripted, and well acted. BTW, on a different note, here is a link one of the best - if not THE funniest - SNL skits ever produced - "America's Funniest Cats..." with Adam Driver and SNL cast members (C. Strong, K

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2016-06-13 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
you're not anti-gun you're pro-stormtrooper, those are they > people who will be charged with taking guns away from the legal gun owners... > -Curt > > From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.

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2016-06-13 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
gt; Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 1:51 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Next question On June 13, 2016 at 1:41 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: Like George Carlin I do this thing called "Thinking for myself" which is a radical idea for most of the world

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2016-06-13 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Foyle's War is a great series, although it got a bit dopey toward the end. - Max Charleston SC On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 2:43 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Is there a new season of Longmire starting up? > > I like that show. > > There's one I watched

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2016-06-13 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
<mercedes@okiebenz.com> >> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> >> Cc: OK Don <okd...@gmail.com> >> Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 1:42 PM >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Next question >> >> What you really mean is clips that hold large amoun

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2016-06-13 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Without me, what would you all talk about? Someone owes me a b**r. On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 2:22 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > bondar ms > > Well, not both at the same time, just one of each in either barrel > >> OK Don via Mercedes

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2016-06-13 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
bondar ms Well, not both at the same time, just one of each in either barrel OK Don via Mercedes June 13, 2016 at 12:52 PMvia Postbox This is true. We just watched "Longmire" where

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2016-06-13 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
el <astrasfo...@gmail.com>; Meade Dillon <dillonm...@gmail.com> Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 1:05 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Next question Or maybe banning the sale of assault weapons? On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 12:22 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes < __

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2016-06-13 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
iebenz.com> Cc: Andrew Strasfogel <astrasfo...@gmail.com>; Meade Dillon <dillonm...@gmail.com> Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 1:05 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Next question Or maybe banning the sale of assault weapons? On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 12:22 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <

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2016-06-13 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
K Don <okd...@gmail.com> To: Curt Raymond <curtlud...@yahoo.com>; Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 1:52 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Next question This is true. We just watched "Longmire" where they make reference to a "

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2016-06-13 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
06 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Next question You're making my point for me: the current laws did not (and never will) be able to stop an evil person from committing an evil act.  This guy had ALL the markers, and yet our massive law enforcement body could not prevent him from killing.  C

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2016-06-13 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Who'd that work in DC? Joel Cairo via Mercedes June 13, 2016 at 12:22 PMvia Postbox How'd that work in Europe? How's that work in the south side of Chicago? --JC Andrew

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2016-06-13 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Cars are used as weapons and are "currently legal and have the capability to kill lots of people quickly" You advocating banning them too? Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes June 13, 2016 at 12:18 PMvia Postbox

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2016-06-13 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Raymond <curtlud...@yahoo.com>; Mercedes Discussion List < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> > Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 1:51 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Next question > > Well Curt, perhaps the NRA is trying to follow that part of the second > amendment that says "shall n

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2016-06-13 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Another nice thought from Market-Ticker: http://market-ticker.org/ "the radio call to the cops from dispatch has been published. *The cops were told to take cover and not storm the building immediately despite knowing there was a man with a gun inside the building actively shooting people --

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2016-06-13 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
ebenz.com> Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 1:51 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Next question Well Curt, perhaps the NRA is trying to follow that part of the second amendment that says "shall not be infringed".  Seems to me that infringements on the second amendment pretty much abound

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2016-06-13 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
des@okiebenz.com> > To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > Cc: OK Don <okd...@gmail.com> > Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 1:42 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Next question > > What you really mean is clips that hold large amounts of ammunition. Any > gun

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2016-06-13 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
On June 13, 2016 at 1:41 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:Like George Carlin I do this thing called "Thinking for myself" which is a radical idea for most of the world.This tends to make me a moderate. I disagree with both sides of the "political equation" pretty much

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2016-06-13 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Well Curt, perhaps the NRA is trying to follow that part of the second amendment that says "shall not be infringed". Seems to me that infringements on the second amendment pretty much abound these days, like in "gun free" zones. Laws that prevent law-abiding citizens with concealed-carry permits

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2016-06-13 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 1:42 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Next question What you really mean is clips that hold large amounts of ammunition. Any gun except my single shot shotgun can kill lots of people quickly. So, no, a ban on any one particular type of gun is not going to have any eff

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2016-06-13 Thread Joel Cairo via Mercedes
<mailto:astrasfo...@gmail.com>>; Meade Dillon < dillonm...@gmail.com <mailto:dillonm...@gmail.com>> Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 1:05 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Next question Or maybe banning the sale of assault weapons?

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2016-06-13 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
On June 13, 2016 at 1:25 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:Wow, so many of you have been radicalized by the NRA. I'm impressed.It's amusing to see you take so much pride in your ignorance. It must be intentional, not merely lack of information. Mitch

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2016-06-13 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > > To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > > Cc: Andrew Strasfogel <astrasfo...@gmail.com>; Meade Dillon < > > dillonm...@gmail.com> > > Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 1:05 PM > > Subject: Re: [M

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2016-06-13 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
ogel via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Cc: Andrew Strasfogel <astrasfo...@gmail.com> Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 1:25 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Next question Wow, so many of you have been radicalized by the NRA.  I'm i

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2016-06-13 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> >>> Cc: Andrew Strasfogel <astrasfo...@gmail.com>; Meade Dillon < >>> dillonm...@gmail.com> >>> Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 1:05 PM >>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Next question >>> >>

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2016-06-13 Thread Joel Cairo via Mercedes
t;mercedes@okiebenz.com> Cc: Andrew Strasfogel <astrasfo...@gmail.com>; Meade Dillon < dillonm...@gmail.com> Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 1:05 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Next question Or maybe banning the sale of assault weapons? On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 12:22 PM, Meade Dillon via Merc

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2016-06-13 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
il.com> > Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 1:05 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Next question > > Or maybe banning the sale of assault weapons? > > On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 12:22 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > Well, maybe this

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2016-06-13 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
<astrasfo...@gmail.com>; Meade Dillon <dillonm...@gmail.com> Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 1:05 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Next question Or maybe banning the sale of assault weapons? On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 12:22 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >

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2016-06-13 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Or maybe banning the sale of assault weapons? On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 12:22 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Well, maybe this is kind of like the simple rules for flying (stay in the > middle of the air, avoid the boundaries). Maybe staying the heck away from >

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2016-06-13 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Well, maybe this is kind of like the simple rules for flying (stay in the middle of the air, avoid the boundaries). Maybe staying the heck away from large gatherings in gun-free zones is the key... - Max Charleston SC On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 11:21 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes

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2016-06-13 Thread Joel Cairo via Mercedes
It was already a gun-free zone, so no metal detector needed. They had a sign and a law. Plus all the perp would have to do is shoot the operator or guard or whatever, which I think he did anyway. I heard he engaged outside the club before moving inside, so that softened things up for him

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2016-06-13 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
The obvious solution would have been a metal detector at the entrance to the club. Or is that forbidden under FL law? On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 11:18 AM, Joel Cairo via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > The answer Max is NO. A friend, whom you might know of, who is very > active in the

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2016-06-13 Thread Joel Cairo via Mercedes
The answer Max is NO. A friend, whom you might know of, who is very active in the L community (to include BGTQQIIs too), has focused on the "automatic" weapons aspect of the event (I need to ask her what she thinks of automatic pressure cookers) as has her circle of friends. She is otherwise

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2016-06-13 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
That is my question as well, now that ISIS has directly attacked the LGBT community, will they wake up to the fact that Radical Islam does NOT wan to "coexist" with them? Sometimes the use of force is the only option in dealing with the enemy, gutting our military and pulling out of Iraq

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2016-06-13 Thread Joel Cairo via Mercedes
Don't forget to add automatic pressure cookers to the list. And diesel/fertilizer. --JC On 6/13/16 10:39 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote: I have yet to meet a violent gun. "gun control" is not about controlling guns, as those with guns will be attempting to take them away from the

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2016-06-13 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
I am waiting for the day those Anthropomorpites who believe their dogs are children, along with the lgbtq evangelists wake up and figger out the fundimental tenets of the cult which can't be named demands that their "children" and their LGBTQ all be killed. There is considerable overlap in

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2016-06-13 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
I have yet to meet a violent gun. "gun control" is not about controlling guns, as those with guns will be attempting to take them away from the rest of us. It is about centralized power vs constitutional distributed control. It is about those with the guns controlling the sheeple (whom

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2016-06-13 Thread Joel Cairo via Mercedes
Yesterday morning was at the SIL's when she came downstairs having just heard the news of the Orlando events. I said "allahuwa akbar!" and she got all upset that I had pointed out the main factor involved. Oh well. So then I sit down and her husband, who is somewhat left of center but

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2016-06-13 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Not at all. I might suggest that had the fibbies been allowed to ask any Q, not just the PC ones, there may have been cause. Or if the cinc did not forbid enforcing certain laws, perhaps some law WAS broken. The laws are written now so that pretty much anyone can be found in breech of some

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2016-06-13 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
iebenz.com] On Behalf Of > >> Curley McLain via Mercedes > >> Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 4:30 PM > >> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > >> Cc: Curley McLain <126die...@gmail.com> > >> Subject: [MBZ] OT: Next question >

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2016-06-13 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of >> Curley McLain via Mercedes >> Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 4:30 PM >> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> >> Cc: Curley McLain <126die...@gmail.com> >> Subject: [MBZ] OT: Next question >

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2016-06-13 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
On June 12, 2016 at 4:29 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:What would have happened this morning if, say, the bouncers, the head bartender, and perhaps an owner/manager of the pulse nightclub each had a centerfire weapon, was trained and used it when necessary?What would

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2016-06-13 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Scott Ritchey via Mercedes June 12, 2016 at 11:23 PM As I understand it, this perp broke no laws until he decided to shoot up the place. Maybe we need to recognize that a state of

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2016-06-13 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Scott Ritchey via Mercedes June 12, 2016 at 11:23 PM As I understand it, this perp broke no laws until he decided to shoot up the place. Maybe we need to recognize that a state of

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2016-06-12 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
We used to have an office called the US Attorney General. They used to prosecute under laws such as the alien and sedition act, as well as prosecute traitors. This office has been closed. in place of it we have the office of executor general who is a puppet of the liar in chief, err

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2016-06-12 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
rcedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of > Curley McLain via Mercedes > Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 4:30 PM > To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > Cc: Curley McLain <126die...@gmail.com> > Subject: [MBZ] OT: Next question > >

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2016-06-12 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
All true. But if a bouncer had been packin', the perp might not have made it in the door. Reports are that the squirrel started a shootout outside the club first. A bouncer, particularly a packin off duty leo may have stopped it outside, or at least picked him off at the door. I doubt the

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2016-06-12 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Reports I read said, The music was very loud and we thought it was firecrackers at first.. So, many failed to recognize there was a deadly attack under way.. thus presenting themselves as targets. Late at night, loud music, many had been drinking, some a lot, reaction times and reflexes were

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2016-06-12 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I imagine it was pretty dark inside? Why would anyone suspect this anyway? On Sun, Jun 12, 2016 at 5:00 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Then a couple of people might have been killed before the bar tender or > bouncer killed the Muslim > > Sent from my

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2016-06-12 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Then a couple of people might have been killed before the bar tender or bouncer killed the Muslim Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 12, 2016, at 3:29 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes > wrote: > > > What would have happened this morning if, say, the bouncers, the head >

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2016-06-12 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Impossible to predict what "might have happened" after the fact.. However, it is the pattern of mass murderers to always select victims who are unarmed and unprepared to defend themselves. This speaks loudly to the criminals mind set about going against armed victims.. They don't... and when they

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2016-06-12 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
What would have happened this morning if, say, the bouncers, the head bartender, and perhaps an owner/manager of the pulse nightclub each had a centerfire weapon, was trained and used it when necessary? What would have happened had the FBI not let this squirrel walk?

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