Re: [MBZ] 1994 E320 (M104) No-Start

2020-02-23 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
The leak was on the high pressure side of the filter, where the fuel enters under pressure from the pump. Maybe the filter was plugged up and starving the injection system. Max Dillon Charleston SC Feb 23, 2020 4:36:46 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes : > Waytago! Well if the pressure is not

Re: [MBZ] 1994 E320 (M104) No-Start

2020-02-23 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Waytago!   Well if the pressure is not high enough to pop the inj spring, it would not start.  A leak will lower the pressure.  Air in the system IS compressible also. I think those things run at pressures in the range of Diesel injection. (mechanical) Max Dillon via Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] 1994 E320 (M104) No-Start

2020-02-23 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Maybe I've fixed this? Yesterday I diagnosed the fuel leak as poor seal at the fuel filter, which is next to the second fuel pump. Had a new filter, so installed that with new copper washers at the banjo fitting, fuel leak fixed. Car started with no issues about 7 or 8 times (other than the

Re: [MBZ] 1994 E320 (M104) No-Start

2020-01-27 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Mon, 27 Jan 2020 00:35:24 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: > Inline spark tester is a beautiful thing. I don't remember what I paid > for mine but it's absolutely worth it. Curt I don't recall hearing of such a thing. I can see how it would be very useful. Searching on-line I

Re: [MBZ] 1994 E320 (M104) No-Start

2020-01-27 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Mon, 27 Jan 2020 09:56:53 -0500 Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote: > Once started, the CE light was no longer lit. I put on my code reader > at the diagnostic plug, got a few codes at pins 8 and 14, mostly > errors in communications between various gasser modules which are > mysterious to me.

Re: [MBZ] 1994 E320 (M104) No-Start

2020-01-27 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Sun, 26 Jan 2020 20:13:26 -0600 Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote: > I've seen those for conventional spark plugs.  Evan have one somewhere, > but I don't see how do you use then for the COP system? M104s do not have COP. They have a high-energy ignition system controlled by a module on the

Re: [MBZ] 1994 E320 (M104) No-Start

2020-01-27 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
The cars I've had with electric fuel pumps they run for a couple seconds when the key comes on and then shut off until the car is started. Which reminds me I need to change the fuel filter on my Jetta. Put in the new filter, turn on the key, wait while the pump cycles, repeat a couple times

Re: [MBZ] 1994 E320 (M104) No-Start

2020-01-27 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Well I bought some starter fluid, and then immediately tried it and the car started right up and stayed running. I wish I had tried to start without using the starter fluid to make sure it was still a "no-start" condition. Once started, the CE light was no longer lit. I put on my code reader at

Re: [MBZ] 1994 E320 (M104) No-Start

2020-01-26 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
I've seen those for conventional spark plugs.  Evan have one somewhere, but I don't see how do you use then for the COP system? You could test for the current going  into the coil.  Wouldn't a bad coil show a code? Curt Raymond via Mercedes January 26, 2020 at

Re: [MBZ] 1994 E320 (M104) No-Start

2020-01-26 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Inline spark tester is a beautiful thing. I don't remember what I paid for mine but it's absolutely worth it. Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Sun, Jan 26, 2020 at 6:57 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: On Sun, 26 Jan 2020 21:59:20 + (UTC) Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote: > >

Re: [MBZ] 1994 E320 (M104) No-Start

2020-01-26 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Carb cleaner works too, or brake clean.WD40 used to work but is non flammable these days. Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Sun, Jan 26, 2020 at 4:59 PM, Max Dillon wrote: Thanks Curt, that's a simple test. I don't have any starter fluid, have to buy some. Max Dillon Charleston

Re: [MBZ] 1994 E320 (M104) No-Start

2020-01-26 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Sun, 26 Jan 2020 21:59:20 + (UTC) Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote: > > Thanks Curt, that's a simple test. I don't have any starter fluid, have > to buy some. Yes, you may use starting fluid on a gasoline engine ... I was going to suggest testing for spark as well -- it used to be easy to

Re: [MBZ] 1994 E320 (M104) No-Start

2020-01-26 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Thanks Curt, that's a simple test. I don't have any starter fluid, have to buy some. Max Dillon Charleston SC Jan 26, 2020 4:50:38 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes : > Easy to test the fp though, shoot a little go juice in, if it fires it's > probably a fuel issue. > > Curt > > Sent from

Re: [MBZ] 1994 E320 (M104) No-Start

2020-01-26 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Easy to test the fp though, shoot a little go juice in, if it fires it's probably a fuel issue. Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Sun, Jan 26, 2020 at 8:24 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote: I think it does, need to learn my way around this engine. No idea where that is, beyond

Re: [MBZ] 1994 E320 (M104) No-Start

2020-01-26 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
same for fuel pump relay Same for battery, even though i t turns the engine over. KISS:   Fuel, air, compression, ignition, and fast enough cranking speed. Dan Penoff via Mercedes January 26, 2020 at 6:42 AM Crankshaft position sensor if it has one. Cranks but no

Re: [MBZ] 1994 E320 (M104) No-Start

2020-01-26 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
That’s what happens when you rely on memory. Wrong!! https://www.benzworld.org/threads/94-e320-fuel-pump-relay-location.2500681/ -D > On Jan 26, 2020, at 9:09 AM, dan--- via Mercedes > wrote: > > Oh, yeah, I always forget about the FPR. I be.ieve it’s under the right rear > seat. > > -D

Re: [MBZ] 1994 E320 (M104) No-Start

2020-01-26 Thread dan--- via Mercedes
Oh, yeah, I always forget about the FPR. I be.ieve it’s under the right rear seat. -D > On Jan 26, 2020, at 8:23 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes > wrote: > > > I think it does, need to learn my way around this engine. No idea where that > is, beyond somewhere on the engine, front or rear. > >

Re: [MBZ] 1994 E320 (M104) No-Start

2020-01-26 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
I think it does, need to learn my way around this engine. No idea where that is, beyond somewhere on the engine, front or rear. Fuel pump relay / fuel pump is another possibility. I think that relay is behind the battery? Max Dillon Charleston SC Jan 26, 2020 7:43:42 AM Dan Penoff via

Re: [MBZ] 1994 E320 (M104) No-Start

2020-01-26 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Crankshaft position sensor if it has one. Cranks but no start. -D > On Jan 26, 2020, at 7:21 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes > wrote: > > What are the most common causes of a no-start condition? > - > Max > Charleston SC > ___ >