Re: [MBZ] Amsoil now has Mercedes 229 approval ...

I hadn't thought about them in awhile. My '05 Golf has very specific oil requirements and M1 5w40 doesn't have the VW seal of approval although many guys run it.Amsoil's European 5w40 does meet VW 505.01 which is what I need but its $11.10/qt retail price! I can buy Fuchs at my local car quest

Re: [MBZ] Amsoil now has Mercedes 229 approval ...

Just says 229, does not say 229.what. Is it 229.3, 229.5, 229.51 or what? Makes a big difference. My guess is 229.3 or 5 Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 8, 2015, at 4:31 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: > > In case you are interested ... > >

Re: [MBZ] Amsoil ATF in an older transmission

Fluid and filters need to be changed. No use running fresh fluid through a nasty filter Fresh standard ATF will help flush gunk out. Not as good as synth, but a short shot of synth will allow you to change to longer periods. clay On Oct 27, 2012, at 8:21 AM, Alan Clarke wrote: Doesn't

Re: [MBZ] Amsoil ATF in an older transmission

: [MBZ] Amsoil ATF in an older transmission Message-ID: 508c197a.4030...@pacbell.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed That's another thought. My hope is that 1) I'm not that high mileage, 150K or so and 2) there was a maintenance sticker on the car when I bought it and I

Re: [MBZ] Amsoil ATF in an older transmission

when I changed my transmission over to Mobil synthetic ATF it came out dirty the first several times - lots of black stuff in the fluid. Not chunks, but just not clear. I guess it came from the bands. Similar with the differential. On two diesel trucks I owned, changing to synthetic caused one

Re: [MBZ] Amsoil ATF in an older transmission

Doesn't doing several changes defeat the purpose of going to synthetic, namely extended fluid change. BTW, when I first got my vehicle I stocked up on both Amzoil for the engine as well as this transmission fluid which I am now talking about using. This isn't cheap stuff but on the other hand

Re: [MBZ] Amsoil ATF in an older transmission

Since synthetic tends to clean out engines and transmissions, switching cars that haven't used synthetics before costs more if you want clean fluid. On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 9:21 AM, Alan Clarke alanc...@pacbell.net wrote: Doesn't doing several changes defeat the purpose of going to synthetic,

Re: [MBZ] Amsoil ATF in an older transmission

On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 11:21 AM, Alan Clarke alanc...@pacbell.net wrote: Doesn't doing several changes defeat the purpose of going to synthetic, namely extended fluid change. BTW, when I first got my vehicle I stocked up I'd say the primary purpose is superior lubrication. The issue is that

Re: [MBZ] Amsoil ATF in an older transmission

old car theres no way to tell if Mobil 1 caused the leak or if the leak was just lying dormant waiting to spring out at any time. -Curt Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 08:52:51 -0600 From: Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Amsoil

Re: [MBZ] Amsoil ATF in an older transmission

(well except for the car I bought from Dwight) and maintain it accordingly. -Curt Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 08:21:59 -0700 From: Alan Clarke alanc...@pacbell.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Amsoil ATF in an older transmission Message-ID: 508bfc17.1070

Re: [MBZ] Amsoil ATF in an older transmission

Subject: Re: [MBZ] Amsoil ATF in an older transmission Message-ID: 508bfc17.1070...@pacbell.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Doesn't doing several changes defeat the purpose of going to synthetic, namely extended fluid change. BTW, when I first got my vehicle I stocked

Re: [MBZ] Amsoil ATF in an older transmission

Rick Knoble wrote: I use Mobil 1 ATF as it is cheaper. Amsoil makes fine products too. Mobil 1ATF is thought of as an elixer for tired transmissions by some folks. I would expect Amsoil to perform nearly as well, if not as well as Mobil 1. I don't think Amsoil makes anything, I think they

Re: [MBZ] Amsoil ATF in an older transmission

Many old-timers will steer you away from synthetic because of unspecified troubles they've heard about. Its the Guy down at pub phenomenon. They heard from a guy down at the pub that synthetic oil/ATF/grease/whatever is bad stuff so they'll never use it. Never mind that they have no first hand

Re: [MBZ] Amsoil ATF in an older transmission

On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 12:10 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Yes seals will often leak when changing to synthetic lubricants as crud gets cleaned away but frequently the seals will then swell and the same leaks will then seal up. I've seen this many times when switching to

Re: [MBZ] Amsoil ATF in an older transmission

My thanks to those that responded. It was confusing because MBZ has a list of recommended fluids. According to Amzoil, who I called, the specification is the Dextron III specification and they say that is the critical thing that the fluid meet, which is what I think you were saying. It is

Re: [MBZ] Amsoil ATF in an older transmission

Alan Clarke wrote: My thanks to those that responded. It was confusing because MBZ has a list of recommended fluids. According to Amzoil, who I called, the specification is the Dextron III specification and they say that is the critical thing that the fluid meet, which is what I think you were

Re: [MBZ] Amsoil ATF in an older transmission

Good research Rick... the specs are important, especially the older ones listed there. The Amsoil looks like it will work.. I'm a big fan of Febi 08971... you can find it by look up the equivalent MB part number 000 989 92 03 on various sites on the internet. It does wonders for improving the

Re: [MBZ] Amsoil ATF in an older transmission

I would not fear using Synth in an old transmission. I have used it in both Gump and Frosch with no troubles or leakage. It does tend to clean up the garbage inside the transmission, so you do a short run for the first fill. Also used it in standard street cars 10-20 years old. When you

Re: [MBZ] Amsoil

...@comcast.net Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 17:53:44 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Amsoil Curt wrote at operating temperature 5w40 and 15w40 are THE SAME Thanks Curt - I hear

Re: [MBZ] Amsoil

Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: brian.tosc...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Amsoil When soot goes up past 2-3% wear starts increasing and the oil starts losing its ability to keep it in suspension. AME 15w-40 and 5w-40 aren't that much different? The 15w-40 is almost a 5w-40 or may

Re: [MBZ] Amsoil

Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Amsoil Message-ID: 4c746b92.3000...@voyager.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Curt Raymond wrote: Assuming I buy Dwights 240D (good bet, its a nice car) I'm pondering a bypass

Re: [MBZ] Amsoil

Evergreen Lodge #88 A.F. A.M. 34 Country Club Drive Windsor, CT 06095 - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 8:38:34 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Amsoil It would be interesting to have a more accurate

Re: [MBZ] Amsoil

pm7...@comcast.net wrote: The primary reason I used DELVAC1 in my 300SDL was cold start. That car would reliably start at -10°. At about 300Kmi, it used 2 quarts between changes {At 20KMI}. With my driving regiment the f-soot was at 75% at that point. I didn't know it would pour if it was 25%

Re: [MBZ] Amsoil

AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Amsoil pm7...@comcast.net wrote: The primary reason I used DELVAC1 in my 300SDL was cold start. That car would reliably start at -10°. At about 300Kmi, it used 2 quarts between changes {At 20KMI}. With my driving regiment the f-soot was at 75% at that point. I didn't

Re: [MBZ] Amsoil

To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Amsoil It would be interesting to have a more accurate (meaning easier to read smaller increments on) gauge to see what the real difference is. Honestly as far as I'm concerned the old more is better doesn't really apply to idle oil

Re: [MBZ] Amsoil

...@comcast.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 3:41:58 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Amsoil I hear ya! As you said, a oil gauge that's been calibrated would be nice --- Hmmm wonder how much that'd cost? Time to check McMaster LarryT In God We

Re: [MBZ] Amsoil

would ground out the ignition and kill the engine. Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of pm7...@comcast.net Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 1:54 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Amsoil No sense

Re: [MBZ] Amsoil

On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 2:11 PM, R A Bennell b...@mts.net wrote: Not sure how well it might work on today's computerized engine controls, and it obviously won't work on the older diesels, but one way to protect an engine from oil pressure failure was to run the ignition hot wire through the

Re: [MBZ] Amsoil

R A Bennell wrote: Not sure how well it might work on today's computerized engine controls, and it obviously won't work on the older diesels, but one way to protect an engine from oil pressure failure was to run the ignition hot wire through the oil pressure light wiring. If there was no oil

Re: [MBZ] Amsoil

Subject: Re: [MBZ] Amsoil R A Bennell wrote: Not sure how well it might work on today's computerized engine controls, and it obviously won't work on the older diesels, but one way to protect an engine from oil pressure failure was to run the ignition hot wire through the oil pressure light

Re: [MBZ] Amsoil

Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 3:54 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Amsoil No sense getting anal about oil pressure. You need 'Some' at idle and 1/2 gage at speed. If you break the drive shaft to the pump for instance, you'll have '0'. The engine

Re: [MBZ] Amsoil

I don't think thats true. I wouldn't have tried 0w40 if I'd been advised not to... I know he said not to use any xW30 oil. -Curt Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 19:21:57 -0500 From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Amsoil Message-ID

Re: [MBZ] Amsoil

In God We Trust -- From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com Sent: Monday, August 23, 2010 4:58 PM To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Amsoil I've played with Amsoil oil and its fine, I hate their '70s pyramid marketing system

Re: [MBZ] Amsoil

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Amsoil The price per qt looks like $8.35 retail, That's about what I paid per gallon for Delo last time. Just change it more often... -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used

Re: [MBZ] Amsoil

Larry T wrote: Curt wrote at operating temperature 5w40 and 15w40 are THE SAME Thanks Curt - I hear you, and I know what the numbers mean - but I also see the oil pressure gauge and when fully warm with 5W40 it idles at a lower psi/Bar than it does when fully warm with a 15W40. I know

Re: [MBZ] Amsoil

300D In God We Trust -- From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com Sent: Monday, August 23, 2010 4:58 PM To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Amsoil I've played with Amsoil oil and its fine, I hate their '70s pyramid marketing

Re: [MBZ] Amsoil

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Amsoil Larry T wrote: Curt wrote at operating temperature 5w40 and 15w40 are THE SAME Thanks Curt - I hear you, and I know what the numbers mean - but I also see the oil pressure gauge and when fully warm with 5W40 it idles

Re: [MBZ] Amsoil

in the house so when I topped up Hammie (often) it wouldn't take forever. -Curt Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 17:53:44 -0400 From: Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Amsoil Message-ID: 03ccaba91a024be8af25c47d2b05d...@laptop Content-Type: text/plain

Re: [MBZ] Amsoil

17:57:34 -0400 From: Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Amsoil Message-ID: 9b2a07bf4ec942519ea7462638065...@laptop Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1;     reply-type=response Jim wrote price per qt looks like

Re: [MBZ] Amsoil

oil (which my Indy put in) I intend to run my '84 190D on M1 5w40 and expect the same sort of results. -Curt Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 17:11:44 -0500 From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Amsoil Message-ID: a06240866c899f3214

Re: [MBZ] Amsoil

Curt Raymond wrote: Assuming I buy Dwights 240D (good bet, its a nice car) I'm pondering a bypass filter. I need to do some tests but Marshall said synthetic in a 61x engine couldn't go really long durations because the soot load would get too high (over 2%) but a bypass filter could take

Re: [MBZ] Amsoil

Mitch Haley wrote: Unfortunately, I don't have current contact info for Ralph Wood, and his web site, bypassfilter.com, has been taken over by squatters, so I don't think I can make more Motor Guard oil filters. I never really liked the idea of Gulf Coast's non-metallic filter housing in the

Re: [MBZ] Amsoil

Larry T wrote: I've tested some Amsoil thru my Oil Analysis business and it's always had excellent results. One customer drivers a 18 wheeler Tractor with over 400,000 miles on it and it still tests perfectly. IIRC he changes the filter every other test. I believe Amsoil is made by

Re: [MBZ] Amsoil

Larry - I've been thinking the same thing - if NAPA didn't have the M1 sale going on right now I'd be barking up the Amsoil tree. Maybe you should become the distro agent for this list? -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]

Re: [MBZ] Amsoil

@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Amsoil Larry T wrote: I've tested some Amsoil thru my Oil Analysis business and it's always had excellent results. One customer drivers a 18 wheeler Tractor with over 400,000 miles on it and it still tests perfectly. IIRC he changes the filter every other test

Re: [MBZ] Amsoil

...@comcast.net Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 08:03:53 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Amsoil Hi Mitch - Thanks for the comments - BTW, What makes you think Amsoil is owned by M1

Re: [MBZ] Amsoil

Larry T wrote: Hi Mitch - Thanks for the comments - BTW, What makes you think Amsoil is owned by M1? Made by Mobil for Amsoil, which has no production facility. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list

Re: [MBZ] Amsoil

Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Amsoil Larry - I've been thinking the same thing - if NAPA didn't have the M1 sale going on right now I'd be barking up the Amsoil tree. Maybe you should become the distro agent for this list? -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes

Re: [MBZ] Amsoil

If the price is right, I need about 16 qts/year. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Larry T Sent: Monday, August 23, 2010 8:19 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Amsoil Hi Max - Good idea

Re: [MBZ] Amsoil

Larry T wrote: I could become a distributor and sell to the members of this list with a $1/qt discount. I'd make $1 and ya'll would save $1. My meager profit would pay the yearly distributor fee... Do they drop-ship cases? Somebody buys a case of 4 gallons or whatever, and you have Amsoil

Re: [MBZ] Amsoil

: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 08:39:37 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Amsoil Larry T wrote: I could become a distributor and sell to the members of this list with a $1/qt

Re: [MBZ] Amsoil

Brian Toscano wrote: Yes to drop ship. The cost of a 6 month dealer membership is $10 and for a year is $20. You can buy it online with your order. I think AME 15w40 came out to a cost of $24-25/gal when I considered it about 2 weeks ago. Cool. I'm happy with the $15-17 I've been paying

Re: [MBZ] Amsoil

Subject: Re: [MBZ] Amsoil If the price is right, I need about 16 qts/year. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Larry T Sent: Monday, August 23, 2010 8:19 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Amsoil

Re: [MBZ] Amsoil

The price per qt looks like $8.35 retail, That's about what I paid per gallon for Delo last time. Just change it more often... -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] Amsoil

I've played with Amsoil oil and its fine, I hate their '70s pyramid marketing system... I'd like to dispute your M1 assertion first, #1 they didn't Go to 5w40 both the 5w40 and 15w50 have been available for years. #2 at operating temperature 5w40 and 15w40 are THE SAME. Thats what the w40

Re: [MBZ] Amsoil

...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Amsoil Message-ID: 4c726287.7040...@voyager.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Larry T wrote:     I've tested some Amsoil thru my Oil Analysis business and it's always had excellent results

Re: [MBZ] Amsoil

...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Amsoil Message-ID: 4c726ee7.6080...@voyager.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Brian Toscano wrote: Yes to drop ship.  The cost of a 6 month dealer membership is $10 and for a year is $20.  You

Re: [MBZ] Amsoil

cold starts. Oh, it'll get a block heater too, the 5w40 is for returning home... -Curt Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 06:56:21 -0700 From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Amsoil Message-ID: 35d1c1dc-aebe-11df-bf57-000502d9a

Re: [MBZ] Amsoil

In theory you are right, that at operating temp, the oil should perform the same. In practice, it is a little different. The 0w-40 is made from a lower viscosity base than the 15w-40. 0w-40 is thinner at Op temp, and tends to create more lifter noise on OM60x engines. That is why Herr

Re: [MBZ] Amsoil

On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 1:58 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: I've played with Amsoil oil and its fine, I hate their '70s pyramid marketing system... I heard some grizzled old-timer at a hot rod show refer to it as Amway oil once. Alex ___

Re: [MBZ] Amsoil

I thought Herr Doktor siad the 5w-40 was fine, it was the 0W-40 that was not recommended. I'm using the 5w-40 in my 60x engines, and have not experienced lifter noise. I put 15w-50 in teh 300E to try to get the oil pressure reading above 0 at a hot idle, but it made no difference. I also remember

Re: [MBZ] Amsoil

I have low oil pressure hot on the TE, but I suspect the sender, not the oil pressure. No lifter rattle, which those engines are prone to at any rate, so I don't believe the pressure is actually low. Just have to get out there on a day when it's less than 105 heat index and screw it in.

Re: [MBZ] Amsoil sales

I have the same opinion of Amsoil. They make a good product but their marketing plan is just short of criminal. Well, yes, but if you sell enough you might get a pink Cadillac. RLE ** Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products.

Re: [MBZ] Amsoil

Larry, I don't trust any oil manufacturer who claims that you can run their product in my car for 1,000,000 miles. I also don't trust any company (oil or otherwise) who uses testimonials to market their product. Testimonials are a sure sign that they can't support their claims with verifiable,

Re: [MBZ] Amsoil

LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Does anyone have any comments good or bad about Amsoil? I've read the literature and it really sounds good. Unlike other oil companies, Amsoil will actually teell you extended oil changes are acceptable. Some Mobil-1 formulations are now being promoted as

Re: [MBZ] Amsoil

Excellent oil, but rather pricey. Do not do extended service intervals without oil analysis, it's too risky. May or may not be better than Mobil 1, that's a debate I don't have much real information on, but you surely won't do worse than spend more money than you should with it, it's not

Re: [MBZ] Amsoil

I see two options - both cost money. You can change oil at the recommended intervals, or test your oil, and change it when it needs it. The testing is not free, so you might not save any money. I haven't done the calculations - I just want to know what's happening, like to collect too many

Re: [MBZ] Amsoil

Say what you want, but I run Mobil1 in both my cars and motorcycle, and I continue to observe the manufacturer's recommended change intervals. Yes, it's more expensive, but it's a very small price to pay in the grand scheme of things, especially when you consider the potential consequences should

Re: [MBZ] Amsoil stories (was: Re: Frybird; why? (was: Re: To Veggie or Not))

hi Rory! thanks for clarifying; that's more like what i thought. a bypass filtration system, and 3 fresh filters with 4 fresh quarts over 21K miles sounds a lot more believable. ;-) cheers! e Well I guess I should of made it more clear, no it is not all the same oil but I have not

Re: [MBZ] Amsoil stories (was: Re: Frybird; why? (was: Re: To Veggie or Not))

Amazing when you get the whole story. But I do still belive in synthetics, just wonder how these older MBZ take to it. I know that I might get more leaks which is normal with synthetic oils. Now all I need is 190D, the hunts is on. Rory On 9/11/06, ernest breakfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [MBZ] Amsoil stories (was: Re: Frybird; why? (was: Re: To Veggie or Not))

: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ernest breakfield Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 8:29 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Amsoil stories (was: Re: Frybird; why? (was: Re: To Veggie or Not)) hi Rory! thanks for clarifying; that's more like what i thought

Re: [MBZ] Amsoil stories (was: Re: Frybird; why? (was: Re: To Veggie or Not))

Now all I need is 190D, the hunts is on. It's funny how much weaker and less torquey the 190D feels than the old 115 200D. I actually prefer the general drivability of the 200D, at least for local trips. But 10mpg extra is 10mpg extra. -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Amsoil stories (was: Re: Frybird; why? (was: Re: To Veggie or Not))

If I was driving a short distance then I'd go for the 300's but my round trip is over 120 miles. Found one at dealer lot in San Leandro but the advert is not sure if it's 240 or 190dealers! R- On 9/11/06, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now all I need is 190D, the hunts is on. It's

Re: [MBZ] Amsoil verse Mobil 1

Tom Scordato wrote: I know this has been beat to death,time and time again but I am have trouble getting synthetic Mobil 1 for the weight I need at Wally World or the other auto places. I would love to find the M! 5w-40 but can not seem to find it. I have been running the 15w-50 M1 extended

Re: [MBZ] Amsoil verse Mobil 1

: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 8:53 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Amsoil verse Mobil 1 Tom Scordato wrote: I know this has been beat to death,time and time again but I am have trouble getting synthetic Mobil 1 for the weight I need at Wally World or the other auto places. I would love to find the M! 5w