They're impressively bad offroad in stock form, but can be made
impressively good (at the expense of what little on road performance it
once had) with extensive (and expensive) modification to the suspension
and drivetrain- but what can't?
ernest breakfield wrote:
you, as many, may have
: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 8:13 PM
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and amazingly enough, at the same time a report from Down Under shows
these concept J**ps from the Underground gang that surfaced at J**p Week
in Moab over Easter,...
http
Hargrave tharg...@hiwaay.net
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There is truth to the rumor. The Jeep Liberty was slated to take
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and amazingly enough, at the same time a report from Down Under shows
these concept
Can't let a good crisis go to waste!
Luther
Mitch Haley wrote:
Rich Thomas wrote:
The auto industry, unions, and gummint have been in a dysfunctional
alliance for decades, the chickensss are comin home to
roosst!!!
It's called influence peddling, and for the first time since
...
-Curt
Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 00:05:37 -0700
From: ernest breakfield erne...@backyardengineering.org
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like that.
-Curt
From: Tom Hargrave [mailto:tharg...@hiwaay.net]
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The new Liberty and I love it.
Wife convinced me to trade - she works for Chrysler. She also traded her
Grand Cherokee
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124157578117190427.html
--R
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Just like with the banks. The law is being trod over for expediency and
union bailout. Your tax dollars at work.
http://www.businessinsider.com/new-allegations-of-white-house-threats-over-chysler-2009-5
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Rich Thomas wrote:
http://www.businessinsider.com/new-allegations-of-white-house-threats-over-chysler-2009-5
One person described the administration as the most shocking end justifies the
means group they have ever encountered. Another characterized Obama was the
most dangerous smooth
Oh please. Unnamed sources. Wild allegations with no attribution.
I am shocked and appalled that someone in GOVERNMENT would DARE to BULLY
someone from as blameless as the AUTO INDUSTRY. Or worse the FINANCIAL
SECTOR. Oh, for SHAME.
Right now we people (you in the U.S. and by extension, us in
Well here in the US there are laws that are meant to apply to these
situations, and generally they are to be followed by everyone involved
(including the gummint). There is enough about this whole thing
(including the bank bailouts, the BoA/ML deal, and the car company
deals) to suggest that
Steve MacSween wrote:
I am shocked and appalled that someone in GOVERNMENT would DARE to BULLY
someone from as blameless as the AUTO INDUSTRY. Or worse the FINANCIAL
SECTOR. Oh, for SHAME.
Gee, Steve, your sarcasm is exceeded only by your ignorance. The issue here is
whether to follow
Rich Thomas wrote:
The auto industry, unions, and gummint have been in a dysfunctional
alliance for decades, the chickensss are comin home to
roosst!!!
It's called influence peddling, and for the first time since the presidential
election, I think we're seeing evidence that the
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 12:56 PM, Steve MacSween
steve.macsw...@videotron.ca wrote:
Right now we people (you in the U.S. and by extension, us in Canada) have a
1 in 5 reasonable chance of having an auto industry in 10 years.
So sorry, but even if this is accurate, so it must be. None of the
anything.
-Curt
Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 16:19:22 -0400
From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net
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Steve MacSween
May 2009 13:51:34 -0700
From: Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com
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On Tue, May
and amazingly enough, at the same time a report from Down Under shows
these concept J**ps from the Underground gang that surfaced at J**p Week
in Moab over Easter,...
http://carsguide.news.com.au/site/news-and-reviews/story/jeep_mopar_concepts_at_moab_safari/
forgive me, but a couple of
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On Behalf Of ernest breakfield
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and amazingly enough, at the same time a report from Down Under shows
these concept J**ps from the Underground gang that surfaced at J**p Week
in Moab over
indication they've done quite well...
-Curt
Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 18:13:24 -0700
From: ernest breakfield erne...@backyardengineering.org
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Another Chrysler Update
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
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Jeep needed a car in its
lineup?
Of course if they sold well I suppose they'd be worth it, I'd love to know the
real numbers on those.
-Curt
Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 20:30:57 -0500
From: Tom Hargrave tharg...@hiwaay.net
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To: 'Mercedes Discussion List
Hargrave tharg...@hiwaay.net
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There is truth to the rumor. The Jeep Liberty was slated to take
Of Rich Thomas
Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 9:20 PM
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Jeep had the Eagle back in the 80s, it seemed to be a Hornet on a 4x4
platform.
--R
Curt Raymond wrote:
The Cherokee holds a little place in my heart as my least favorite 4x4
Wha? Did you replace your beloved Grand with it?
-Curt
Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 21:22:13 -0500
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CHRYSLER CUT-UP'S CONTRACT KILLERS
http://www.nypost.com/seven/05042009/postopinion/opedcolumnists/chrysler_cut_ups_contract_killers_167488.htm
--R
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