Re: [MBZ] Brake fiasco

2013-08-30 Thread dseretakis
I agree on both points. You say 1-2 business days. Is that with standard shipping? How do you accomplish this without using overnight delivery or priority which may be prohibitively expensive? Sent from my iPhone On Aug 29, 2013, at 11:22 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: two

Re: [MBZ] Brake fiasco

2013-08-30 Thread dseretakis
Autohausaz gives free shipping for all orders over $50. They do offer some OEM parts but they offer no guidance. Not all OEM parts are equal. I don't always know which to pick. That's why I liked Rusty. He would answer all my questions and concerns and give me the best when I asked. He would

Re: [MBZ] Brake fiasco

2013-08-30 Thread Gary Hurst
it would be by shipping from a warehouse near you. generally, unless the item is heavy or rare, you are no more than 3 business days away as i will ship most of my cross country stuff on fedex 3 day as it isn't really much more than fedex ground unless heavy. but this also depends on where you

Re: [MBZ] Brake fiasco

2013-08-30 Thread Gary Hurst
they actually mostly don't offer OEM parts, which is at least part of how they achieve such fantastic prices. their catalogue is loaded up with chinese generic despite the general availability of the same part in OEM. getting back to the examples i cited recently: kaleb's front wheel bearings

Re: [MBZ] Brake fiasco

2013-08-30 Thread Gary Hurst
From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brake fiasco Message-ID: CACioK3uCxD6SpbQCO=jnpymo2cqpgnrc+nszwwpdze1hvqv...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 two things in life often don't work out

Re: [MBZ] Brake fiasco

2013-08-30 Thread Randy Bennell
with the occasional squealing even though they were the upgrade pads from CarQuest. I might buy some replacements... -Curt Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2013 23:22:52 -0400 From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brake fiasco Message-ID

Re: [MBZ] Brake fiasco

2013-08-30 Thread Curt Raymond
...@earthlink.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brake fiasco Message-ID: a8a915a2-1482-4843-9490-92f022486...@earthlink.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes One way to eliminate the squeak is to stick with OEM pads

Re: [MBZ] Brake fiasco

2013-08-30 Thread Curt Raymond
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brake fiasco Message-ID:     CACioK3uCxD6SpbQCO=jnpymo2cqpgnrc+nszwwpdze1hvqv...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 two things in life often don't  work out well: 1.  rushing 2.  cheaping out when you do either it generally ends up taking longer

Re: [MBZ] Brake fiasco

2013-08-30 Thread Dan Penoff
I got my first set if Akebono ceramic pads from Gary a couple of months ago. I have yet to need to clean my wheels, and they stop great. Wish I had done these a long time ago. On Aug 30, 2013, at 11:15 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: they actually mostly don't offer OEM parts,

Re: [MBZ] Brake fiasco

2013-08-30 Thread Gary Hurst
the $30? Not really, it tells time about the same. I have to be more careful about taking it off before I put my hand into a car engine... -Curt Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2013 13:21:36 -0400 From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ

Re: [MBZ] Brake fiasco

2013-08-30 Thread Curt Raymond
... -Curt Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2013 13:21:36 -0400 From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brake fiasco Message-ID:     caciok3st5bo0ffu+vlwy79ax7ghfck6bcd9vj0hn8vpbbar...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Re: [MBZ] Brake fiasco

2013-08-29 Thread Curt Raymond
When I did rear pads/rotors/calipers on my '84 190D recently I used parts from Car Quest. One thing I noticed about the pads was that the edges weren't beveled but were squared off. I seem to remember the fronts I put on were beveled but I haven't checked. These squared off ones squealed a bit

Re: [MBZ] Brake fiasco

2013-08-29 Thread Rick Knoble
On Aug 29, 2013, at 5:33 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: What could be going on? Literally everything was replaced! I responded twice and the emails disappeared. Hmmm. Intercepted by the NSA ??? Anyway, did you bed the pads? Perhaps the rotors are inferior? Here is more than you want to

Re: [MBZ] Brake fiasco

2013-08-29 Thread dseretakis
Yes I used the CRC red caliper grease. I didn't slather it on though. I initially liked the stuff but I've noticed that it dries to a rubbery goo unlike the Mercedes like stuff that comes in the little packages. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 29, 2013, at 7:44 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com

Re: [MBZ] Brake fiasco

2013-08-29 Thread dseretakis
Not sure if I know anymore what bedding pads means. I initially heard that you should ease on the brakes but then that you should brake hard. Not being sure which approach to take I did do some hard abrupt braking though on the test drive. The rotors may very well be inferior. They are made in

Re: [MBZ] Brake fiasco

2013-08-29 Thread Curt Raymond
: Thu, 29 Aug 2013 20:17:19 -0400 From: dsereta...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brake fiasco Message-ID: 96748ef4-3b27-45bf-aaa7-fef390407...@yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain;    charset=us-ascii Yes I used the CRC red caliper grease. I didn't

Re: [MBZ] Brake fiasco

2013-08-29 Thread Rick Knoble
From: dsereta...@yahoo.com Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2013 20:24:16 -0400 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brake fiasco Not sure if I know anymore what bedding pads means. I initially heard that you should ease on the brakes but then that you

Re: [MBZ] Brake fiasco

2013-08-29 Thread Rick Knoble
From: dsereta...@yahoo.com Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2013 18:33:09 -0400 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Brake fiasco What could be going on? Literally everything was replaced! Clipped from the referenced article. The obvious question now is is

Re: [MBZ] Brake fiasco

2013-08-29 Thread WILTON
rickkno...@hotmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 9:07 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brake fiasco From: dsereta...@yahoo.com Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2013 18:33:09 -0400 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ

Re: [MBZ] Brake fiasco

2013-08-29 Thread WILTON
'Said discs, meant rotors. Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 9:28 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brake fiasco 'Don't mean to imply that mine was this same problem - it certainly

Re: [MBZ] Brake fiasco

2013-08-29 Thread Greg Fiorentino
You must brake in your new breaks! Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of dsereta...@yahoo.com Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 3:33 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Brake fiasco I finally finished the complete front brake

Re: [MBZ] Brake fiasco

2013-08-29 Thread Peter Frederick
One way to eliminate the squeak is to stick with OEM pads, as they have the anti-squeal material bonded to the back of the pad. Cheap aftermarkets with plain metal backing plates (no layer of hard plastic on the piston side) will probably squeal no matter what you do, and glueing them to

Re: [MBZ] Brake fiasco

2013-08-29 Thread dseretakis
Good point about the backing on OEM pads. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 29, 2013, at 10:02 PM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net wrote: One way to eliminate the squeak is to stick with OEM pads, as they have the anti-squeal material bonded to the back of the pad. Cheap aftermarkets with

Re: [MBZ] Brake fiasco

2013-08-29 Thread dseretakis
Aug 2013 20:24:16 -0400 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brake fiasco Not sure if I know anymore what bedding pads means. I initially heard that you should ease on the brakes but then that you should brake hard. Not being sure which approach to take I did do some hard abrupt

Re: [MBZ] Brake fiasco

2013-08-29 Thread Peter Frederick
Since I usually get 60,000 miles on a set of pads, OEM is fine for me. Thats roughly a set of fronts every three years, rears every six. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change

Re: [MBZ] Brake fiasco

2013-08-29 Thread WILTON
Brakes on friend's/my 81 300D were OEM; squealed with me a first 'cause he hadn't used 'em. Wilton - Original Message - From: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 10:02 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brake

Re: [MBZ] Brake fiasco

2013-08-29 Thread Gary Hurst
my philosophy on brake stuff is really simple. i sell either original compound (textar/pagid or, rarely, jurid) or akebono ceramics. in terms of rotors, i sell only the german stuff, zimmermann and balo, with a strong preference towards the coated versions. back in the day i'd sell ate

Re: [MBZ] Brake fiasco

2013-08-29 Thread Gary Hurst
two things in life often don't work out well: 1. rushing 2. cheaping out when you do either it generally ends up taking longer and costing more money, but we have moved to a society that values fast and cheap above all. in this case, we learn about rushing. you can't rush anymore as there

Re: [MBZ] Brake fiasco

2013-08-29 Thread Rick Knoble
On Aug 29, 2013, at 10:22 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: and there often isn't even that much of a delay as parts are often delivered in one or two business days. Silly questions, that I would've asked off-list, but are pertinent to all I suppose. One, do you ship from a parts

Re: [MBZ] Brake fiasco

2013-08-29 Thread Dieselhead
Silly questions, that I would've asked off-list, but are pertinent to all I suppose. One, do you ship from a parts supplier nearest your customer if you can? Do you offer free shipping on orders over xxx dollars? Do you provide a tracking number? Do you provide an email invoice with orders?

Re: [MBZ] Brake fiasco

2013-08-29 Thread Gary Hurst
usually i ship the best parts i can without regard to location. so, for example, i really like those previously mentioned dallas made R4 AC compressors, so i sent mike esh one of those even though i had access to really good air products compressors 200 miles from his home. i did this because he

Re: [MBZ] Brake fiasco (was: grrr. siezed caliper)

2009-08-31 Thread Curt Raymond
Always replace calipers in pairs. I didn't once and had a terrible pull Has the car sat a lot? What you're looking at sounds an awful lot like my 240D last fall. It'd sat nearly a year and it was a BEAR to work on... -Curt Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2009 18:14:31 -0400 From: Allan Streib

Re: [MBZ] Brake fiasco (was: grrr. siezed caliper)

2009-08-31 Thread Allan Streib
On Mon, 31 Aug 2009 10:00 -0700, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Has the car sat a lot? What you're looking at sounds an awful lot like my 240D last fall. It'd sat nearly a year and it was a BEAR to work on... Well, not that long. There was a period earlier this year where I did not

Re: [MBZ] Brake fiasco (was: grrr. siezed caliper)

2009-08-30 Thread Fmiser
Allan Streib wrote: I've never had calipers sieze up like that before on any other car, foreign or domestic. Wondering why these all went bad so quickly. Dust boots installed and in good shape? Using water instead of brake fluid? -- Philip ___

Re: [MBZ] Brake fiasco (was: grrr. siezed caliper)

2009-08-30 Thread Jim Cathey
I've never had calipers sieze up like that before on any other car, foreign or domestic. Wondering why these all went bad so quickly. Been driving on salted winter roads? Since they've started salting here, which they did not do when I first moved here, many things automotive are much worse

Re: [MBZ] Brake fiasco (was: grrr. siezed caliper)

2009-08-30 Thread Peter Frederick
Common problem on a previously neglected Benz -- failure to replace the rotors when they are too thin. On the W126 and prior chassis, all the calipers have an anti-rattle spring on top, and when the rotors are too thin and the pads are badly worn, the backing plate will hit the spring.

Re: [MBZ] Brake fiasco

2009-08-30 Thread Allan Streib
Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net writes: Common problem on a previously neglected Benz -- failure to replace the rotors when they are too thin. This could explain the rears -- I did not put new rotors on when I installed the calipers last time. On the fronts, though, the rotors and

Re: [MBZ] Brake fiasco

2009-08-30 Thread Peter Frederick
It is odd. In the future, may I suggest what my buddy the mechanic does? When he does an oil change for a customer he pulls all the brake pads, cleans up the calipers, and puts a bit of anti-seize on the sides of the backing plates. Of course, he has the car on a lift, so it's easy, and