Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses

2009-06-26 Thread Mitch Haley
WILTON wrote: Ooops. Oh, I messed up! He sent 'em directly ro me. I thought they were to the list. 'Sorry. He did it right, he sent it to the list with a courtesy copy to Wilton. So Wilton got it right away, the rest of us got a link to it after Kleb approved his message. Mitch.

Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses

2009-06-26 Thread WILTON
Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 1:24 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses OK, so it was definitely the radio amplifier, or definitely the cell phone box that was the culprit? Your announcement was a bit confusing to me, you were talking about both... -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses

2009-06-26 Thread WILTON
Thanks, Mitch, and thanks, again, Scott. Wilton - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 7:16 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses WILTON wrote: Ooops. Oh, I messed up! He sent 'em

Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses

2009-06-25 Thread WILTON
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 12:35 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses You reminded me: No aux amplifiers, but basic amplifier for the radio IS somewhere in trunk area. Well, unplug it! 'Thought that terminal may be somewhere around driver fender or footwell; likely somewhere easily

Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses

2009-06-25 Thread WILTON
That's fantastic, Scott; 'was able to select appropriate/relevant (skip non-relevant) and made up a nice booklet of lots of great info. 'Already learned several things I was wondering about. Thanks, again!! Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: mercedes

Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses

2009-06-25 Thread Scott Ritchey
...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of WILTON Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 14:33 To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses That's fantastic, Scott; 'was able to select appropriate/relevant (skip non-relevant) and made up a nice booklet of lots

Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses

2009-06-25 Thread OK Don
Excellent! Congratulations! On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 7:14 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: I have found it, I have found it, I have found it!! -- OK Don Pair of W124 300D 2.5 Turbos -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL:

Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses

2009-06-25 Thread Jim Cathey
Congrats! I'm a bit confused, though. The bump under the liner was the radio's better half, or was the analog cell phone? Our 1990's radio has amplifiers behind the rear seat back, nothing in the trunk. The changer-equipped ones of 91+ had the stuff in the trunk. IIRC. -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses

2009-06-25 Thread Rich Thomas
Well, now ET is stuck here forever. --R WILTON wrote: I have found it, I have found it, I have found it!! 'Went out this morning, crawled into the trunk and disconnected amplifier in plain view under the hat shelf, and immediately realized that's not part of the radio; it's part of

Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses

2009-06-25 Thread WILTON
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses Congrats! I'm a bit confused, though. The bump under the liner was the radio's better half, or was the analog cell phone? Our 1990's radio has amplifiers behind the rear seat back, nothing in the trunk. The changer-equipped ones of 91+ had the stuff

Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses

2009-06-25 Thread Mitch Haley
Jim Cathey wrote: Congrats! I'm a bit confused, though. The bump under the liner was the radio's better half, or was the analog cell phone? That reminds me. The 2.3-16 has an analog cell phone in it that the handset was unplugged from the base. I plugged it in once so there wouldn't be a

Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses

2009-06-25 Thread WILTON
'Took all that stuff out of mine 'cept that box in the trunk; gonna remove that in the morning. Wilton - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 10:23 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Electric drain

Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses

2009-06-25 Thread WILTON
Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 9:39 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses Well, now ET is stuck here forever. --R WILTON wrote: I have found it, I have found it, I have

Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses

2009-06-25 Thread Scott Ritchey
it. Scott -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of WILTON Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 16:33 To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses Anybody have a wiring diagram for 90/91 350SDL (126.135); if so

Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses

2009-06-25 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 20:39:48 -0400 WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: BTW, all of you guys with 126's (or may get a 126) oughta save those wiring diagrams that Scott posted today. They're good!! I saw only one posting from Scott today, and that didn't have any wiring diagrams attached. Craig

Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses

2009-06-25 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 21:10:35 -0600 Craig McCluskey diese...@pisquared.net wrote: I saw only one posting from Scott today, and that didn't have any wiring diagrams attached. I spoke too soon. His post of 0840 this morning showed up just after I sent this. Craig

Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses

2009-06-25 Thread WILTON
] Electric drain/fuses On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 20:39:48 -0400 WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: BTW, all of you guys with 126's (or may get a 126) oughta save those wiring diagrams that Scott posted today. They're good!! I saw only one posting from Scott today, and that didn't have any wiring diagrams

Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses

2009-06-25 Thread Jim Cathey
OK, so it was definitely the radio amplifier, or definitely the cell phone box that was the culprit? Your announcement was a bit confusing to me, you were talking about both... -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to

Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses

2009-06-24 Thread WILTON
Just unplugged the red and white clock power wire - no significant change. Wilton - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 9:12 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses On a 126, how

Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses

2009-06-24 Thread Jim Cathey
Just unplugged the red and white clock power wire - no significant change. Keep unplugging. Are the sunvisors unclipped? Power to those comes through the clip end, not the hinge end. So you can unclip them to eliminate them from the equation. (On an SL power comes through wires at the hinge

Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses

2009-06-24 Thread Jim Cathey
You did unplug the central locking pump that's in the spare tire well, right? Radio, too. You want to unhook _everything_ you can that's capable of drawing power through that fuse. Factory alarm system, you get that too? -- Jim ___

Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses

2009-06-24 Thread WILTON
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 9:34 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses Just unplugged the red and white clock power wire - no significant change. Keep unplugging. Are the sunvisors unclipped? Power to those comes through the clip end, not the hinge end. So you can unclip them

Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses

2009-06-24 Thread WILTON
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 10:12 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses Sunvisors are unclipped - have been for coupla weeks. Didn't unplug cent lock pump 'cause it's supposedly on fuse 15, not on fuse 2 - gonna unplug it now, though. Same

Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses

2009-06-24 Thread Jim Cathey
More on the radio. The radio controls antenna extension/retraction, etc. I get power draw from antenna retraction via fuse 15, but radio gets power via fuse 2. Is the ant retraction time out power controlled by the radio, Radios have clocks and presets in them, they take both keyed and

Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses

2009-06-24 Thread WILTON
@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:30 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses More on the radio. The radio controls antenna extension/retraction, etc. I get power draw from antenna retraction via fuse 15, but radio gets power via fuse 2. Is the ant retraction time out power

Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses

2009-06-24 Thread WILTON
the diagnostic terminal? Wilton - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:30 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses More on the radio. The radio controls antenna extension

Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses

2009-06-24 Thread WILTON
- Original Message - From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 8:54 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses change. More great fun. What could make antenna (fuse 15) and fuse 2 draw at same time

Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses

2009-06-24 Thread WILTON
suggestions on checking it? Wilton - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 8:54 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses change. More great fun. What could make antenna (fuse 15

Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses

2009-06-24 Thread Rich Thomas
. Fuse placard says fuse 2 supplies diagnostic terminal 6. Any suggestions on checking it? Wilton - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 8:54 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses

Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses

2009-06-24 Thread Jim Cathey
You reminded me: No aux amplifiers, but basic amplifier for the radio IS somewhere in trunk area. Well, unplug it! 'Thought that terminal may be somewhere around driver fender or footwell; likely somewhere easily accessible, i. e. driver fender. Fuse placard says fuse 2 supplies diagnostic

Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses

2009-06-23 Thread WILTON
'Tried my rheostat last night; lights in inst. cluster and all switches go up and down. Wilton - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 9:54 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses

Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses

2009-06-23 Thread Scott Ritchey
often work fine even with the internal fuse blown. Scott -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of WILTON Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 11:01 To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses 'Tried my rheostat

Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses

2009-06-23 Thread WILTON
and resistance scales often work fine even with the internal fuse blown. Scott -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of WILTON Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 11:01 To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses

Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses

2009-06-23 Thread Jim Cathey
On a 126, how can I disconnect power to JUST the clock at the instrument cluster? Is there a separate plug for just the clock accessible on backside of inst cluster? I was _just_ going to suggest this! Every post-115 cluster I can remember has a separate red/yellow wire that is clock power.

Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses

2009-06-23 Thread WILTON
@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 9:12 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses On a 126, how can I disconnect power to JUST the clock at the instrument cluster? Is there a separate plug for just the clock accessible on backside of inst cluster? I was _just_ going to suggest this! Every

Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses

2009-06-22 Thread WILTON
and control units, but I don't see the '91 126 illumin control there. Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 7:32 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses Anybody have a 126 (preferably 91

Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses

2009-06-22 Thread Rich Thomas
Layout and ID of relays and control units, but I don't see the '91 126 illumin control there. Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 7:32 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses

Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses

2009-06-22 Thread Jim Cathey
I've tried to connect ammeter (2 different ones) between batt post and cable many times; 'must have messed up something in both meters since the first reading of 101 mA several days ago; can't get a reading on 'em now; their fuses are not blown - continuity and voltage readings work well.

Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses

2009-06-22 Thread WILTON
Cathey j...@windwireless.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 9:28 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses I've tried to connect ammeter (2 different ones) between batt post and cable many times; 'must have messed up something in both meters since

Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses

2009-06-22 Thread WILTON
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 8:35 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses I have one. --R WILTON wrote: Anybody know how I can get access to a 126 maint. CD? Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: mercedes

Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses

2009-06-22 Thread Jim Cathey
I was thinking I may need to pull the fuses and check 'em 'stead of just checking the leads for continuity, but the mfgr's instructions say check fuse by touching probe ends together for continuity. 'Suspected there may be some BS involved. It's possible this is true for your meter, though

Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses

2009-06-22 Thread WILTON
@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 10:18 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses I was thinking I may need to pull the fuses and check 'em 'stead of just checking the leads for continuity, but the mfgr's instructions say check fuse by touching probe ends together for continuity. 'Suspected

Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses

2009-06-22 Thread Mitch Haley
WILTON wrote: How may I access it? Can/will you make me a copy? I'll send discs, prepaid envelope, etc. Thnks. BTW, today I'm driving the car with fuse 2 removed, and don't have any drain that I can detect. 'Checked antenna (fuse 15) again this morning making damned sure to wait

Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses

2009-06-22 Thread WILTON
No, 'haven't found the relay. Wilton - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 10:41 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses WILTON wrote: How may I access it? Can/will you make me

Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses

2009-06-22 Thread Rich Thomas
: Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses I have one. --R WILTON wrote: Anybody know how I can get access to a 126 maint. CD? Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: mercedes list mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 9:31 PM Subject: [MBZ] Electric drain

Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses

2009-06-22 Thread Jim Cathey
No, 'haven't found the relay. There isn't one, if the 126 ETM can be believed. The timer is _in_ the dome light assembly. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses

2009-06-22 Thread WILTON
Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 11:41 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses I can make you copies of the discs and send them along, but it might be easier if you tell me what it is you want, then I can find the particular pdfs of the job and email them

Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses

2009-06-22 Thread WILTON
Thnks. See reply to Rich few min ago. Wilton - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 12:04 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses No, 'haven't found the relay. There isn't one

Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses

2009-06-22 Thread Benz Hogs
Have you tried removing the dome light and unplugging it? That would take 30 seconds and solve the problem, or lead you elsewhere... Luther WILTON wrote: Electr. illumin control right now; probably other stuff later. Jim C. says its in the dome light assembly. He's very likely correct, of

Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses

2009-06-22 Thread WILTON
@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 5:49 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses Have you tried removing the dome light and unplugging it? That would take 30 seconds and solve the problem, or lead you elsewhere... Luther WILTON wrote: Electr. illumin control right now; probably other stuff

Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses

2009-06-22 Thread Rich Thomas
...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 11:41 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses I can make you copies of the discs and send them along, but it might be easier if you tell me what it is you want, then I can find the particular pdfs

Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses

2009-06-22 Thread WILTON
confirms that's the unit on fuse 2 I've been looking for. Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 2:36 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses Electr. illumin control right now

Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses

2009-06-22 Thread WILTON
Agreed. See post sent few minutes ago. Thanks. Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 3:25 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses I found

Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses

2009-06-22 Thread WILTON
, again. :) Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 3:25 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses I found a 126from86_componentlocations.pdf that is about 7MB

Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses

2009-06-22 Thread WILTON
: Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses Okay, I finally found it in the book. I agree, the DELAY switch for the front dome light, etc, is located inside the dome light assembly, but the unit in question and listed on the fuse placard under fuse 2, electr illumin control, is as I was afraid, something

Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses

2009-06-22 Thread Jim Cathey
BTW, fuse placard lists front dome light AND electr. illumin. control. Wonder why list the dome light twice? They wouldn't. But your dingus doesn't seem to be in my book. Then again, I wasn't looking for dashboard lighting stuff, and I think my SDL has full-brightness window switches, etc. --

Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses

2009-06-22 Thread Jim Cathey
be normal for clock, radio, etc. - still uncertain about amount of draw on fuse 2 and what is normal. I'm thinking that something in the 20mA range will be perfectly acceptable. I didn't seem to note down the final current draw in the 560 SL once I'd cured the major leak. -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses

2009-06-22 Thread Rich Thomas
I'll give you $500 for that POS, whatever it is, just as it sits, bad electrical system and all. I'll go to Harbor Freight and get a battery shutoff switch, put it on, and not worry about the drain. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts

Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses

2009-06-22 Thread WILTON
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 10:19 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses I'll give you $500 for that POS, whatever it is, just as it sits, bad electrical system and all. I'll go to Harbor Freight and get a battery shutoff switch, put

Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses

2009-06-22 Thread Rich Thomas
fine. BTW, batt switch occurred to me, too. Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 10:19 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses I'll give you $500 for that POS

Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses

2009-06-22 Thread WILTON
Thanks. Wilton - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 9:56 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses be normal for clock, radio, etc. - still uncertain about amount of draw on fuse

Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses

2009-06-22 Thread WILTON
: Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses OK $600, that is my highest offer, take it or leave it and suffer the consequences of a lifetime of electrical headaches. WILTON wrote: Thanks but no thanks. All necessary stuff is working fine right now with fuse 2 removed; well, 'cept maybe hazard warning

Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses

2009-06-22 Thread WILTON
Even more on electronic illumin. control: It's behind the instrument cluster. Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 9:15 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses More

Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses

2009-06-21 Thread Jim Cathey
After 2 days sitting idle, voltage at battery in the 350SDL at 1000 today was 11.44v; SWMBO came in few minutes ago and announced, Doesn't start. The fun continues. BTW, antenna's been unplugged for several days. The chase continues... I really hated my chase on that 560 SL. -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses

2009-06-21 Thread WILTON
- From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 12:33 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses After 2 days sitting idle, voltage at battery in the 350SDL at 1000 today was 11.44v; SWMBO came in few minutes ago and announced

Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses

2009-06-21 Thread Scott Ritchey
...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of WILTON Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 13:06 To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses Just put trickle charger on it to bring V back to 12; removed fuses 1,2, 15. No other fuse has any voltage on downstream

Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses

2009-06-21 Thread WILTON
, and ant unplugged. Wilton - Original Message - From: Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 4:01 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses A couple of things, like the alternator, don't go through a fuse

Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses

2009-06-21 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sun, 21 Jun 2009 18:48:56 -0400 WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: If alt is pulling power, it would illum. test lamp, too, wouldn't it? If the only thing connected to one battery post is one terminal of the test lamp, yes, a alternator drain would light the test lamp. BTW, antenna (on fuse

Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses

2009-06-21 Thread WILTON
Of course. Wilton - Original Message - From: Craig McCluskey diese...@pisquared.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 6:54 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses On Sun, 21 Jun 2009 18:48:56 -0400 WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote

Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses

2009-06-21 Thread WILTON
@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 6:54 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses On Sun, 21 Jun 2009 18:48:56 -0400 WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: If alt is pulling power, it would illum. test lamp, too, wouldn't it? If the only thing connected to one battery post is one terminal

Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses

2009-06-21 Thread WILTON
mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 6:54 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses On Sun, 21 Jun 2009 18:48:56 -0400 WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: If alt is pulling power, it would illum. test lamp, too, wouldn't it? If the only thing connected to one battery post is one

Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses

2009-06-21 Thread Mitch Haley
Craig McCluskey wrote: Sounds like the antenna was drawing power, but is no longer, since it's disconnected. So you have more than one drain. Didn't Jim point out that when the antenna sees power, it tries to go down for 30 seconds? Therefore, unless you put the meter to the antenna power

Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses

2009-06-21 Thread WILTON
:25 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses Craig McCluskey wrote: Sounds like the antenna was drawing power, but is no longer, since it's disconnected. So you have more than one drain. Didn't Jim point out that when the antenna sees power, it tries to go down for 30 seconds? Therefore

Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses

2009-06-17 Thread Peter Frederick
@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses Where is it? Is it one of 'em inside the fuse panel box? In the lamp. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive

Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses

2009-06-17 Thread Jim Cathey
I trhink the batt drain is on fuse 15 - rear dome light (bulb removed), trunk light, belt handover arm (whatever that is, 'don't think my SDL has that), switchover valve seat back arrester, cent lock system, door lights, rear comp reading lamps, aut. antenna, seat adjust memory. Removed raar

Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses

2009-06-17 Thread Peter Frederick
Check the wire for the trunk lamp where it goes through a bracket on the decklid hinge -- this spot is subject to wear, and the wire will short to ground, eventually melting the wiring. Hard to trace, but on my brother's SDL we ended up replacing quite a bit of wire due to heat damage when it

Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses

2009-06-17 Thread WILTON
Cathey j...@windwireless.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 12:16 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses I trhink the batt drain is on fuse 15 - rear dome light (bulb removed), trunk light, belt handover arm (whatever that is, 'don't think

Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses

2009-06-17 Thread Jim Cathey
If it's antenna, what's the fix, replace retract mech., New antenna unit. There is a circuit board internally, but component-level repair is somewhat difficult on that. New used, if your car has middle height settings, as the modern replacement is full up or full down only. -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses

2009-06-17 Thread WILTON
Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 9:10 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses If it's antenna, what's the fix, replace retract mech., New antenna unit. There is a circuit board internally, but component-level repair is somewhat difficult on that. New used

Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses

2009-06-17 Thread Peter Frederick
The antenna motor is smart -- has a torque sensor to tell it when the mast is all the say up or all the way down via the amount of current the motor is pulling. If this circuit board goes bad, it won't shut off as it's supposed to. Could also be corrosion or dampness in the antenna

Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses

2009-06-17 Thread Jim Cathey
No middle settings on this car's antenna that I know of - always full up or down, but I've had it only 14 years; 'put this antenna unit on it years ago. 'Sure hoping I've found the drain. Last week, when I did the exercise with the test lamp, the only fuse that extinguished the light when

Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses

2009-06-17 Thread Jim Cathey
The antenna motor is smart -- has a torque sensor to tell it when the mast is all the say up or all the way down via the amount of current the motor is pulling. I thought this too, until I (partially) analyzed one of these circuits. No sign of any means of determining torque (current draw).

Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses

2009-06-16 Thread Mitch Haley
Jim Cathey wrote: Probably just basic leakage, and nothing to worry about. If it kills your battery in a week, _then_ you've got a problem! Well, something kills Wilton's battery in under a week. Ruined the old battery and is working on destroying the new one. Mitch.

Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses

2009-06-16 Thread Loren Faeth
I didn't follow the thread, but did anyone mention the alternator? A burned out diode can do that. Fix is a replacement alt. At 05:40 AM 6/16/2009, you wrote: Jim Cathey wrote: Probably just basic leakage, and nothing to worry about. If it kills your battery in a week, _then_ you've got a

Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses

2009-06-16 Thread Jim Cathey
Well, something kills Wilton's battery in under a week. Ruined the old battery and is working on destroying the new one. So what's the parasitic current draw from the battery, and which fuse doth the offender suck from? This is an easy test with a multimeter. The last time I chased one of

Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses

2009-06-16 Thread WILTON
Alternator working fine the two times alt tech has checked it. Wilton - Original Message - From: Loren Faeth lfa...@leadingchange.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 9:13 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses I didn't follow

Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses

2009-06-16 Thread WILTON
, June 16, 2009 11:33 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses Well, something kills Wilton's battery in under a week. Ruined the old battery and is working on destroying the new one. So what's the parasitic current draw from the battery, and which fuse doth the offender suck from

Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses

2009-06-16 Thread WILTON
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses Well, something kills Wilton's battery in under a week. Ruined the old battery and is working on destroying the new one. So what's the parasitic current draw from the battery, and which fuse doth the offender suck from? This is an easy test with a multimeter

Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses

2009-06-16 Thread Jim Cathey
light, elec. illum. control) was only one drawing (101 mA) with key off. What That's a lot. I think of 20mA as a lot. is elec. illum. control? 'They talking 'bout inst. illum. control (inst lighting rheostat), or what? Might be the timed dome light. What is seat jacket tube adjustment

Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses

2009-06-16 Thread Peter Frederick
It's the relay that keeps the interior lights on for a time after you close the door. As I said earlier, a common cause for running the battery flat, as it will soon start to draw an amop or so. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts

Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses

2009-06-16 Thread Jim Cathey
It's the relay that keeps the interior lights on for a time after you close the door. As I said earlier, a common cause for running the battery flat, as it will soon start to draw an amop or so. At least that's real easy to test: just pull it out and see if the problem goes away! The ones

Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses

2009-06-16 Thread WILTON
Where is it? Is it one of 'em inside the fuse panel box? Wilton - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 9:11 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses It's the relay that keeps

Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses

2009-06-16 Thread Jim Cathey
Where is it? Is it one of 'em inside the fuse panel box? In the lamp. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go

Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses

2009-06-16 Thread WILTON
Oh! Tanks. ;))) Wilton - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 11:08 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses Where is it? Is it one of 'em inside the fuse panel box

Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses

2009-06-15 Thread John Freer
If I recall correctly, the drivers seat adjustment is always hot because you can change the seat settings without the ignition being on. John On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 4:26 PM, WILTONwilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: On my 91 350SDL (126), fuse B (front seat adjustment, jacket tube adjustment) in the

Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses

2009-06-15 Thread WILTON
@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 7:37 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses If I recall correctly, the drivers seat adjustment is always hot because you can change the seat settings without the ignition being on. John On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 4:26 PM, WILTONwilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: On my 91

Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses

2009-06-15 Thread WILTON
Message - From: John Freer mbfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 7:37 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses If I recall correctly, the drivers seat adjustment is always hot because you can change the seat settings without the ignition

Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses

2009-06-15 Thread Curt Raymond
To retain the memory? Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 20:04:34 -0400 From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: 057bdcb0336748f1ab89e3ceda2ca...@wiltonpc Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1

Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses

2009-06-15 Thread WILTON
'My thought, too, but #15 with 12v is also labeled seat memory, but fuse B is just labeled adjustment. Wilton - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 8:39 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses

Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses

2009-06-15 Thread Jim Cathey
On my 91 350SDL (126), fuse B (front seat adjustment, jacket tube adjustment) in the main fuse panel has .12v (yes, that's point 12 - 12 one hundredths of a volt) between it and ground with key (master switch) OFF. Anybody know why this fuse would have .12v on it with key OFF? (BTW, fuse A

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