Kaleb wrote: Who are you trying to convince, us or you?
I am not trying to convince anyone. I didn't know I had to. Besides, I think
it is clear from reading some responses from this group and some emails from
the BMW group, that Mercedes and BMW owners both think the other is crazy. As
for
Ed wrote: If the first time you write out a cheque for $1000 puts you off,
just remind yourself what a new one would cost you, and how cheaply you're
getting to enjoy a top of the range BMW. They're great cars, hope you enjoy
it.
Good advice and well said, Ed. But, I plan to do small
Wonko wrote: That will make him sleep better tonight.
Good thing I didn't read my digest until this morning! :)
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Tom wrote: My aunt had a 740 with that multi-thousand dollar wrench dance as
well. Then it got wrecked and she
bought a C Class. I think she's driving a Hyundai now. (She trades cars
almost as often as Don; must be something in the water there in
Kansas.)
I bet your Aunt is a very
: Friday, August 21, 2009 7:54 AM
To: Mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Just had my first bad experience with BMW
Ed wrote: If the first time you write out a cheque for $1000 puts you off,
just remind yourself what a new one
would cost you, and how cheaply you're getting to enjoy a top
: [MBZ] Just had my first bad experience with BMW
Tom wrote: My aunt had a 740 with that multi-thousand dollar wrench dance as
well. Then it got wrecked and she
bought a C Class. I think she's driving a Hyundai now. (She trades cars
almost as often as Don; must be something
in the water
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Just had my first bad experience with BMW
Wonko wrote: Welcome to reality. Just wait until something breaks. Maybe you
can give someone your BMW and $1000
for an old 600-series Benz, and trade up in the headache zone.
Maybe I am being naïve, but I think I am going
I like cars. I will drive almost anything. BUT I don't really
understand the interest of people in Hyundai or Kia.
The neighbors are all over the 10-year warrantee.
-- Jim
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The basic car is very strong, and will last well. Many of the common wear
items can be found on the net for cheap, like brake rotors etc. There are
expensive parts on the car, and they can break, but that can be said of any
car. I had an old Pontiac Sunbird. Car was cheap as chips to buy new
be reluctant to
use it like a truck should be used.
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Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 10:21 AM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Just had my first bad experience
I don't know if anyone is really interested in Hyundais or Kias, I think
they are usually looked at as 5-10 year appliances. Drive them 150,000
miles, then throw them out. I think for most people, a car just serves a
purpose, they aren't things most people look forward to washing and waxing
on
R A Bennell wrote:
I like cars. I will drive almost anything. BUT I don't really understand the
interest of people in Hyundai or Kia.
I don't think they are all that cheap and if I was going for something similar,
I would buy a Honda or Toyota or
even a Nissan.
I don't get it, either, but we
than a Camry and
$3,000 less than an Accord and gets better fuel economy than either of them...
-Curt
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 11:03:46 -0500
From: R A Bennell b...@mts.net
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Just had my first bad experience with BMW
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Message-ID
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 5:18 PM, Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com wrote:
So, evidently BMW owners think Mercedes people are crazy and spend tons of
money keeping up their cars and Mercedes owners think BMW folks are crazy
and spend tons of money keeping up their cars.
The truth about
End of the day, they're all machines, and they all break, so drive what you
love, it will make spending the repair money less painfully when needed. :-)
Ed
300E
2009/8/21 Ed Booher edboo...@gmail.com
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 5:18 PM, Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com wrote:
So, evidently BMW
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 1:32 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:
It wasn't that long ago that Honda and Toyota were Jap junk...
They are *still* Japanese Junk they are just relatively reliable
mechanically.
The Hyundai Elantra is a pretty nice car. I had one as a rental and it was
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 2:03 PM, E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote:
End of the day, they're all machines, and they all break, so drive what you
love, it will make spending the repair money less painfully when needed.
:-)
Ed
300E
My point exactly. I must be talking Ed-Speak.
EdB
either of
them...
-Curt
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 11:03:46 -0500
From: R A Bennell b...@mts.net
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Just had my first bad experience with BMW
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
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Many can speak enough to get by, but it's a tricky language to write. hee
hee. ;-)
Ed
300E
2009/8/21 Ed Booher edboo...@gmail.com
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 2:03 PM, E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote:
End of the day, they're all machines, and they all break, so drive what
you
love, it will
...
With a starting list price of $18,700, its $1,000 cheaper than a Camry and
$3,000 less than an Accord and gets better fuel economy than either of
them...
-Curt
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 11:03:46 -0500
From: R A Bennell b...@mts.net
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Just had my first bad experience with BMW
price of $18,700, its $1,000 cheaper than a Camry and
$3,000 less than an Accord and gets
better fuel economy than either of them...
-Curt
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 11:03:46 -0500
From: R A Bennell b...@mts.net
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Just had my first bad experience with BMW
To: Mercedes Discussion
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 11:03:46 -0500
From: R A Bennell b...@mts.net
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To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
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I like
...
-Curt
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 14:07:52 -0400
From: E M pokieba...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Just had my first bad experience with BMW
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
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that statement...
-Curt
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 14:17:31 -0500
From: R A Bennell b...@mts.net
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Just had my first bad experience with BMW
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and for a luxury marque the Infiniti G35x...
-Curt
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 14:07:52 -0400
From: E M pokieba...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Just had my first bad experience with BMW
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
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On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 5:40 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:
Have you driven one?
Actually, have you driven a couple?
Yes. Have driven Hyundai's, Honda's, lots of Mitsu's (currently still own
two) and Mazda's (own one) as well as some modern GM's, Fords, . well
. I'm a
Wilton wrote: When she saw my very good-looking, ivory '80 Mercedes, she
jumped up and came running toward me squealing, I didn't know
you were driving a Mercedes! I laughed and said to her, We people are sort
of funny aren't we? I drove up in a $2500, 20-year-old, 84-horsepower,
Diesel-driven
Wonko wrote: Welcome to reality. Just wait until something breaks. Maybe you
can give someone your BMW and $1000 for an old 600-series Benz, and trade up in
the headache zone.
Maybe I am being naïve, but I think I am going to be okay. My indy has been
working on this car for 10 years and he
Assuming the secret to avoiding costly repairs on Mercedes and BMW is
to properly maintain them and perform scheduled maintenance and
preventive maintenance, then this car should be as reliable as any
other complicated luxury with good maintenance records.
That helps immensely. The other big
Boiling point? Especially since the flag lady was flirting with you?
;
Wilton
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From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 12:58 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Just had my first bad
Boiling point?
She's still really pissed about the SEL/SDL subterfuge.
She's got a fever, and it ain't more cowbell that's
gonna do it, but less cars.
-- Jim
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Wilton wrote: That's why I've always (well, 'bout 62 years, anyway) changed
oil myself;
for last 7 or 8 years using my $2, homemade sucker.
I might have to do that from now on. I did use my topsider on my 1990 300SEL
-- once. It wasn;t really worth it on that car, because once I bought 8 qts
Okay - I remember that. I thought he had already smoothed that over with
flowers and a diamond pendent (worked for me with a certain vehicular
purchase.) A Euro model VW camper i have my eye on may cost me earrings and
a new ring.
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 11:09 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net
Peter Hertzing wrote:
okay - I missed something whats up. Why is she at teh edge?
1. They have a white SDL. Jim bought a white SEL and didn't bother to tell her
immediately. Waited until she was sitting in it one day and called it the 'SDL',
and then he said 'no, not really'.
2. He bought
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 09:05:06AM -0700, Jim Cathey wrote:
Boiling point?
She's still really pissed about the SEL/SDL subterfuge.
She's got a fever, and it ain't more cowbell that's
gonna do it, but less cars.
And hiding them in the woods where she can't see them probably won't work
this
okay - I missed something whats up. Why is she at teh edge?
Peter
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 11:05 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote:
Boiling point?
She's still really pissed about the SEL/SDL subterfuge.
She's got a fever, and it ain't more cowbell that's
gonna do it, but less
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 12:06:47PM -0400, Mitch Haley wrote:
Jim Cathey wrote:
Boiling point?
She's still really pissed about the SEL/SDL subterfuge.
She's got a fever, and it ain't more cowbell that's
gonna do it, but less cars.
Coming to a theater near you: Car Trek II - The Wrath of
Jim Cathey wrote:
Boiling point?
She's still really pissed about the SEL/SDL subterfuge.
She's got a fever, and it ain't more cowbell that's
gonna do it, but less cars.
Coming to a theater near you: Car Trek II - The Wrath of Jill
heehee.
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From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 12:09 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Just had my first
Who are you trying to convince, us or you?
Donald Snook wrote:
Wonko wrote: Welcome to reality. Just wait until something breaks. Maybe you can
give someone your BMW and $1000 for an old 600-series Benz, and trade up in the headache
zone.
Maybe I am being naïve, but I think I am going to be
If the car was well care for, as it seems it was, it will go for a long
time. Sure, it's a top of the range BMW, so parts are never going to be
cheap, but they made enough of them, you can find parts in the bone yard, or
through places like Rusty online to keep the running costs down.
If the
Last year I dropped by my Inide and he had a 90's 7 series in for some
work. I looked inside and everything was taken out from the dash to
the firewall. I asked if BMW had evaporator problems too and he said,
no, this is just to replace the Climate Control blower.
yikes!
JJOhn
On Thu, Aug 20,
- Original Message -
From: John Freer mbfo...@gmail.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 7:53 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Just had my first bad experience with BMW
Last year I dropped by my Inide and he had a 90's 7 series in for some
work
That will make him sleep better tonight.
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 6:53 PM, John Freer mbfo...@gmail.com wrote:
Last year I dropped by my Inide and he had a 90's 7 series in for some
work. I looked inside and everything was taken out from the dash to
the firewall. I asked if BMW had evaporator
John Freer wrote:
Last year I dropped by my Inide and he had a 90's 7 series in for some
work. I looked inside and everything was taken out from the dash to
the firewall. I asked if BMW had evaporator problems too and he said,
no, this is just to replace the Climate Control blower.
This seems
Remember, BMW=Bring Money and Wallet. ;)
-MMM-
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From: Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com
BUT, when I called asked them how much an oil change was, they said about
$115!
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On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 08:22:40AM -0700, Mitch Marmel wrote:
Remember, BMW=Bring Money and Wallet.? ;)
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Donald Snook wrote:
...I called asked them how much an oil change was, they said about $115!
This BMW takes 8 quarts of oil, but I can't imagine it being more then $40
for the oil change.
8 quarts of German Castrol synthetic at $8 each, plus $40 labor?
8 quarts of cheap oil, plus $80 labor?
It would probably cost you a lot more if you went to a dealer up here in
Canada. $115 actually sounds like a pretty good price to me. I know I was
paying about $130 for my last porsche oil change, and that was years ago!
That was standard dino oil too, all bit it, a lot of it. lol. Not sure how
But the experience of hanging around the BMW shop should be worth the
extra $$. You can pose with the others there.
--R
E M wrote:
It would probably cost you a lot more if you went to a dealer up here in
Canada. $115 actually sounds like a pretty good price to me. I know I was
paying about
My local dealer only charged me a net of $63, with my filter, after the
Club discount, for 8 qts. of non-synthetic motor oil.
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 12:00 PM, Rich Thomas
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:
But the experience of hanging around the BMW shop should be worth the extra
I use Speedee for my Ranger as I did for my Dakota before it. I get synthetic
(Mobil 1) which they pour from individual bottles (conventional comes from a
pump). I think they charge $69 but that includes, checking and topping all the
other fluids, vacuum the interior, quick vehicle inspection
Andrew wrote: My local dealer only charged me a net of $63, with my filter,
after the Club discount, for 8 qts. of non-synthetic motor oil.
Was this on a BMW? Do you have one?
Donald H. Snook
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Rich wrote: But the experience of hanging around the BMW shop should be worth
the
extra $$. You can pose with the others there.
I am sure the dealership staff and other customers would react the same to me
and my 12 year BMW as the folks at the Mercedes Dealership acted when I brought
in my
Yeah, I used to get that when I drove Brunnhilda to the Benz dealer near
me in Houston, though the parts guys were clueless. I went there one
day to get a glow plug fuse and the kid at the parts counter didn't even
know what I was talking about. Took me about 10 minutes to walk him
through
Mercedes 1970 280SE 3.5
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 1:37 PM, Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com wrote:
Andrew wrote: My local dealer only charged me a net of $63, with my
filter, after the Club discount, for 8 qts. of non-synthetic motor oil.
Was this on a BMW? Do you have one?
Donald H. Snook
Curt wrote: I use Speedee for my Ranger as I did for my Dakota before it. I
get synthetic (Mobil 1) which they pour from individual bottles (conventional
comes from a pump). I think they charge $69 but that includes, checking and
topping all the other fluids, vacuum the interior, quick vehicle
You needed think that far ahead Donaldthe electronics on the BMW
will be dead long before your next oil change.
Still can't believe you did this!
John
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 11:42 AM, Donald Snookdsn...@mtsqh.com wrote:
Curt wrote: I use Speedee for my Ranger as I did for my Dakota before
That's why I've always (well, 'bout 62 years, anyway) changed oil myself;
for last 7 or 8 years using my $2, homemade sucker.
Wilton
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From: Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com
To: Mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 11:10 AM
Subject: [MBZ] Just had my
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From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 2:10 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Just had my first bad experience with BMW
Yeah, I used to get that when I drove Brunnhilda
Rich wrote: Some day when I win the lottery I am going back there dressed like
some goober and try to buy a Maybach and some AMGs, see how they treat
me when I walk in. If they act like that again, I'll go buy a Lambo or
Bentley or something at the fancy shop, then come back in one still
looking
Andrew wrote: Mercedes 1970 280SE 3.5
I just saw one of those! Except it had the 4.5. I was just at the shop
getting the oil changed on the BMW (I did not go to the dealer) and he has a
beautiful grey one of these. It's a 280SEL 4.5. It is beautiful. He needs a
new resonator for the
John wrote: You needed think that far ahead Donaldthe electronics on the BMW
will be dead long before your next oil change. Still can't believe you did
this!
the funny thing is the guys on BimmerForum had a writeup about being a new BMW
owner. They said a new BMW owner should not start
You'd trade it in on some old piece of Detroit iron in a couple of
months, so I wouldn't even bother getting you one
I was down on the boat dock on Sunday morning early (I am on Nantucket
for a few days) and it was the end of race week, a bunch of old 12m
yachts (America's Cup boats,
I remember I used to go to the dealer about once a week it seemed like
to get various parts. They all knew me there quite well and treated me
good. When I got my first 140, which was about 4 years old at the time,
then the people at the dealer started treating me REAL well. I even had
a
pickup, you wouldn't have said a word. We had a good laugh and
agreed.
Wilton
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From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 7:17 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Just had my first bad experience
Welcome to reality. Just wait until something breaks. Maybe you can give
someone your BMW and $1000 for an old 600-series Benz, and trade up in the
headache zone.
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 10:10 AM, Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com wrote:
I called the local BMW dealer just to check on a price for an
And THEN what happened? :-)
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 6:53 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:
For several years I did private, independent home inspections, most often
for buyers. About 9 years ago, I pulled up to a house to start and
inspection my client, a nice-looking woman maybe 45 or
is
still very good, and I don't miss much. She was worthy, but as usual, I let
it get away.
Wilton
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From: Wonko the Sane don.b...@gmail.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 8:00 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Just had my
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 8:00 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Just had my first bad experience with BMW
And THEN what happened? :-)
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 6:53 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:
For several years I did private, independent
andrew wrote:
Mercedes 1970 280SE 3.5
That is my lust car.
I saw one advertised for sale with stick in ChiTown about 10 years
ago. Shoulda.
Do you still drive your 3.5?
Is it with clutch or auto?
mao
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I drove up in a $2500, 20-year-old, 84-horsepower,
Diesel-driven Mercedes and you got all excited...
I just received my first nice car in Ethelred.
The gal manning the road construction sign today.
The new paint and upholstery, etc., are taking effect.
-- Jim
So, now you may change your mind about selling it. ;)
Wilton
- Original Message -
From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 9:46 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Just had my first bad experience with BMW
So, now you may change your mind about selling it. ;)
Oh no. The wife is at boiling point, and I have a
_nicer_ SL in storage anyway. But this one's starting
to shape up nicely, except for the #7 plug oil-fouling.
-- Jim
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