> With care, the KC boom could tow an unpowered fighter, done several times in
> SEA.
And do what with it? Can you land coupled? Unpowered jet flies like a rock.
Drag it to a safer place to punch out?
-- Jim
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] KC135 Trivia Was RE: OT - Reboot Your Aircraft
I have only been close to getting airsick once
I have only been close to getting airsick once, I was on some regional jet
probably an Embraer, that seemed to be both yawing and rocking side-to-side at
the same time (is this "dutch roll"?). It was slight, but persistent, and
eventually I started feeling nauseated. Normal turbulence/rough air
P3 Orion is the military version of the Lockheed Electra II, and the C-130
Hercules is the high wing version (different fuselage, essentially the same
wing).
It was designed as the "first class service" airplane when jets were not
reliable enough for passenger plane use, I think around 1952.
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] KC135 Trivia Was RE: OT - Reboot Your Aircraft
> AFAIK only the B52 is the only older (1952) design still on duty.
The P3 Orion is based on the Lockheed L-188 Electra, I think they are still on
d
I got to ride on a P3 once in college. A buddy of mine was in ROTC and
there some sort of recruiting thing where the Navy was giving rides on a
P3 so he signed us up. The pilots were a coupla hotshots, and we were
the only others on board, so they put on a show for us. It was lots of
fun,
> AFAIK only the B52 is the only older (1952) design still on duty.
The P3 Orion is based on the Lockheed L-188 Electra, I think they are still on
duty? I don't know if that's older than the 707 but gotta be close.
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My personal experience with the KC135 ended in 1982. At that time they all
still had the original engines.
Dutch roll damping was terrible at approach speeds and there was no yaw damper
(unlike 707s) but you could use the autopilot yaw channel momentarily to kill
the roll oscillation (not
I thought they had finally replaced the engines, long, long overdue.
Should make them much easier to fly a low speed, the original 707/KC135 was a
handful with poor lateral stability and VERY low power at landing speeds.
BOAC rejected the first version because it would not fly without full
