: Re: [MBZ] Now our 190 has been in an accident
Quick, call 60 Minutes to investigate this unintended acceleration
incident, call for Congressional hearings, sue the maker of the car the
girl was driving for obviously defective product design and realization,
and retire fat.
--R
Zoltan Finks
Zoltan Finks wrote:
Bottom line: Get the car fixed or settle for an unfair amount.
Or refuse to accept a check in somebody else's name as payment for a debt owed
to you.
Mitch.
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Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 6:35:02 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Now our 190 has been in an accident
Zoltan Finks wrote:
Bottom line: Get the car fixed or settle for an unfair amount.
Or refuse to accept a check in somebody else's name
Option 3: find an insurance company that deals fairly.
I have State Farm and their claim settlements have always been what I
consider fair. More than fair in a few cases. I've never had to argue
with them to get what I felt I deserved. Maybe I make up for it in
higher premiums, but then -- you
pm7...@comcast.net wrote:
Same PUSH and SHOVE in Connecticut. I had to demonstrate my willingness to send a complaint to our state insurance commissioner to get the payee changes several years ago.
Brian has suffered an insured loss. He apparently has come to an agreement with
the insurance
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Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 4:10 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Now our 190 has been in an accident
Now I further understand how the system works:
Insurance company cuts us a check in amount lower than reasonable, but
it's
a check made out to me
Fix the car...
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 01:10:36 -0700
From: Zoltan Finks msuchpo...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Now our 190 has been in an accident
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Ooo, even better.
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 06:35:02 -0400
From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net
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From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com
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Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 10:08:25 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Now our 190 has been in an accident
I've been lucky enough not to have had many accidents, but I've NEVER let
the ins
pm7...@comcast.net wrote:
I gave the car to my kids, only 3.8L Sable that ever saw 200Kmi!
On the original head gaskets?
My 3.8 Taurus has about 180k on it IIRC. 139k on the original head gaskets.
I need to sell that thing as a winter beater. I'd drive it if it got better mpg
and the A/C
10:41 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Now our 190 has been in an accident
10 years ago a little old lady hit my car in a parking lot, small dent in
passenger door. My guesstimate was $150 to fix and paint door. I don't
usually fix such things as MY EXPERIENCE is that the repair becomes a
focal point
WILTON wrote:
Damned ridiculous to claim it on YOUR ins.; it's other party's
liability, but often, other party's ins. co. will try anything to dodge
that liability.
At which point, you sue the other party, and tell them that if they purchased
insurance from an honest firm you wouldn't have
] Now our 190 has been in an accident
WILTON wrote:
Damned ridiculous to claim it on YOUR ins.; it's other party's liability,
but often, other party's ins. co. will try anything to dodge that
liability.
At which point, you sue the other party, and tell them that if they
purchased insurance from
] Now our 190 has been in an accident
WILTON wrote:
Damned ridiculous to claim it on YOUR ins.; it's other party's
liability, but often, other party's ins. co. will try anything to
dodge that liability.
At which point, you sue the other party, and tell them that if they
purchased insurance
Ford changed to head gasket at about 75Kmi on my extended warranty.
--
Pete Arnold
My Mind Not Only Wanders, Sometimes it Leaves Completely!
Mitch Haley wrote:
pm7...@comcast.net wrote:
I gave the car to my kids, only 3.8L Sable that ever saw 200Kmi!
On the original head gaskets?
My 3.8
Here is a Craigslist 1988 190D in North Carolina for comparison. $3900.00
http://charlotte.craigslist.org/cto/1236640823.html
On Jun 4, 2009 8:27pm, Zoltan Finks msuchpo...@gmail.com wrote:
Just got a phone call from the wife. She got rearended by some girl
who hit
the gas instead of
Thanks for the comparable - good example.
Kaleb, I guess the adjuster guy came up with an estimate which he reported
to the ins. co. and that, I guess, is what they are basing their dollar
amount on.
I think it must be their m.o. to make people go away - quick and simple and
check written to me.
mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 2:01 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Now our 190 has been in an accident
Thanks for the comparable - good example.
Kaleb, I guess the adjuster guy came up with an estimate which he
reported
to the ins. co. and that, I guess, is what they are basing
mguzziridr wrote:
Here is a Craigslist 1988 190D in North Carolina for comparison. $3900.00
http://charlotte.craigslist.org/cto/1236640823.html
That doesn't look like a 2.5, does it?
I thought all 2.5 had the fins at the front left fender at turbo intake?
mao
Only if they have a turbo...
Mountain Man wrote:
mguzziridr wrote:
Here is a Craigslist 1988 190D in North Carolina for comparison. $3900.00
http://charlotte.craigslist.org/cto/1236640823.html
That doesn't look like a 2.5, does it?
I thought all 2.5 had the fins at the front left
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Now our 190 has been in an accident
mguzziridr wrote:
Here is a Craigslist 1988 190D in North Carolina for comparison. $3900.00
http://charlotte.craigslist.org/cto/1236640823.html
That doesn't look like a 2.5, does it?
I thought all 2.5 had the fins at the front left fender
Dwight wrote:
Do you mean right front fender?
Yes, I meant left front fender.
I thought the 2.5 was only turbo?
The 2.2 was NA, correct?
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Mountain Man wrote:
Dwight wrote:
Do you mean right front fender?
Yes, I meant left front fender.
I thought the 2.5 was only turbo?
The 2.2 was NA, correct?
2.2 was only NA in USA, the only 190D engine from 84-85.
2.5 NA was the only 190D engine in 86, 88, 89.
In 1987 the 2.5 NA was
Mitch wrote:
2.2 was only NA in USA, the only 190D engine from 84-85.
2.5 NA was the only 190D engine in 86, 88, 89.
In 1987 the 2.5 NA was standard, 2.5 Turbo a rare option in the 190D.
90-93 the 2.5 Turbo was the engine in the 300D.
Thanks - that is a good clear summary.
mao
I think it must be their m.o. to make people go away -
Absolutely! Any way they can, preferably without
paying you anything...
we want to just get the check and leave the minor dents be.
That's sort of what we did. Makes us feel better than
having a pristine LR corner of a car, with all
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Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 6:33 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Now our 190 has been in an accident
Dwight wrote:
Do you mean right front fender?
Yes, I meant left front fender.
I thought the 2.5 was only turbo
Dwight, et al.
Seems right to me, in this country anyway.
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
Diesel preferred
At 09:34 PM 6/25/2009, you wrote:
ON the 300D 2.5 turbos, the gills are on the right front fender.
AFAIK-the 2.2 was only NA while the 2.5 came both ways. Fred-help us here.
Dwight
Bissell Cove Quahog
Dwight E. Giles, Jr wrote:
ON the 300D 2.5 turbos, the gills are on the right front fender.
AFAIK-the 2.2 was only NA while the 2.5 came both ways. Fred-help us here.
AFAIK, all US market 2.5 turbos have the air intake in front of the right front
wheel, and no cars that aren't 2.5 turbos
well you thought wrong, only the turbo cars have that
Mountain Man wrote:
mguzziridr wrote:
Here is a Craigslist 1988 190D in North Carolina for comparison. $3900.00
http://charlotte.craigslist.org/cto/1236640823.html
That doesn't look like a 2.5, does it?
I thought all 2.5 had the
So the adjuster said the car was nicer than he pictured and the damage less
than he thought. He didn't think it would be totaled.
And the insurance guy said he is issuing a check. Just like that he has a
check in the mail supposedly.
Amount: $1650.
I asked what if my body shop says that's not
Brian:
Be careful with getting an estimate from the most expensive body shop.
I did that once, and the insurance company made the check out to that body
shop, not me.
Turned out that body shop did not do a very good job. They were just
expensive.
It is more important to get the estimate from
I just went through this last week with a door on the Cad. The ins guy
wrote up a really low estimate and gave me a check for $550 or so. He
gave me the names of 2 body shops on their approved list or affiliated
or something. I go there. First guy says he will bang out the door,
repaint,
offer out of hand. DO NOT CASH THE CHECK! If you cash it you're
agreeing to their terms.
-Curt
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 02:45:45 -0700
From: Zoltan Finks msuchpo...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Now our 190 has been in an accident
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So the adjuster said the car was nicer than he pictured and the damage
less
than he thought. He didn't think it would be totaled.
Anything to shut you up. They are required to 'make you
whole', which in the absence of an actual court appearance
pretty much means that YOU have to be satisfied
Zoltan Finks wrote:
So the adjuster said the car was nicer than he pictured and the damage less
than he thought. He didn't think it would be totaled.
And the insurance guy said he is issuing a check. Just like that he has a
check in the mail supposedly.
Amount: $1650.
So you never signed
I have never heard of them sending a check before even getting an estimate.
Zoltan Finks wrote:
So the adjuster said the car was nicer than he pictured and the damage less
than he thought. He didn't think it would be totaled.
And the insurance guy said he is issuing a check. Just like that he
Some states allow you to pick the body shop, may I recommend Mercedes
Collision Centers.
-Rolf
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
I have never heard of them sending a check before even getting an
estimate.
Zoltan Finks wrote:
So the adjuster said the car was nicer than he pictured and the
damage
: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net
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Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 8:53 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Now our 190 has been in an accident
5. Our registration will be canceled and we cannot re-register it
Not necessary, unless perhaps if you live
.
Slightly inflated of course.
Douglas
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5. Our registration will be canceled and we
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Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 12:18 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Now our 190 has been in an accident
Funny thing is - and this may be strategic on his/their part - is the guy
who
On Sat, 13 Jun 2009 09:18:10 -0700 Zoltan Finks msuchpo...@gmail.com
wrote:
He kept saying here's what they will probably offer you or tell you.
He disconnected himself from them and spoke to me as though he was sort
of on my side, even telling me of an 88 BMW he had that got hit and how
...
-Curt
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 09:18:10 -0700
From: Zoltan Finks msuchpo...@gmail.com
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Very good analogy. ;)
Wilton
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Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 3:08 PM
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So throw away the examples of the cheap cars, build
happy.
Slightly inflated of course.
Douglas
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Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 8:53 PM
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5. Our registration
who is our adjuster on the car played it real cool and said he is a
contractor who doesn't work for the insurance co.
Hey may not wish to be associated with THEM, but he is most
certainly not YOU. Keep your head on, and treat him politely
as you would any adversary that you want to win
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Now our 190 has been in an accident
who is our adjuster on the car played it real cool and said he is a
contractor who doesn't work for the insurance co.
Hey may not wish to be associated with THEM, but he is most
certainly not YOU
BTW, some states have official procedures for the victim choosing his own
adjuster if he doesn't like the decision from the adjuster originally hired by
the insurance company. CA is probably one of them.
Mitch.
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On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 2:08 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:
So throw away the examples of the cheap cars, build a case to help yourself
not them, as my
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[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Rich Thomas
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 8:27 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Now our 190 has been in an accident
Quick, call 60 Minutes to investigate this unintended acceleration
incident
Don't accept the small amount they offer! Demand a fair price!
When a guy in a cadillac escalade backed out of his driveway into the
side of my 740 Turbo Wagon their first offer was about $700 minus $200
buyback minus $200 deductible. They seriously thought I'd take a $300
check for having a
So I assumed that the insurance company would just say NO to our
counteroffer. How did you get them to relent? I mean what bargaining power
do we have? They have the power.
We are looking up listings and preparing our case. I think Blue Book on the
car is about $1000. But they go for much more
Someone on the list has written up his saga of dealing with the
insurance company, and some good pointers for how to get whole.
Basically they owe you to make you whole. You might need to collect
some documentation on the value of your car (which was in EXCELLENT
condition for its age, etc.)
Document recent ebay sales for cars in similar condition to establish
CORRECT and REALISTIC market value. Show proof of all your repairs and
maintenance costs. Refuse to fold until they make an acceptable offer -
this will force their hand. Time is on YOUR side.
On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 1:58
They have a legal responsibility to fully repair or replace the vehicle
to your satisfaction. Research comparables in as good or better
condition, and demand enough money to actually buy one! If they refuse-
you can take them to small claims court or get a lawyer. Be really
careful what you
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From: tyler casi...@usermail.com
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 11:45:16
To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Now our 190 has been in an accident
They have a legal responsibility to fully repair or replace the vehicle
to your satisfaction. Research
just
want to be made whole.
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
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From: tyler casi...@usermail.com
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 11:45:16
To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Now our 190 has been in an accident
They have a legal
Zoltan Finks wrote:
Yes, I forgot that we don't have to settle until we're satisfied. Though I'm
sure there's a time limit of some sort.
Find out what the statute of limitations to sue for damages is. Can't be less
than two years. There's your time limit. Either settle or file suit before
, tell them so.
-Curt
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 10:58:18 -0700
From: Zoltan Finks msuchpo...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Now our 190 has been in an accident
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5. Our registration will be canceled and we cannot re-register it
Not necessary, unless perhaps if you live in a 'no-fault' State.
(Translation: my-fault-too State.) The offending driver owes you
money for repairs or replacement, and the current driveability of
the car is not their concern.
our 190 has been in an accident
Quick, call 60 Minutes to investigate this unintended acceleration
incident, call for Congressional hearings, sue the maker of the car the
girl was driving for obviously defective product design and realization,
and retire fat.
--R
Zoltan Finks wrote:
Just got
I believe that is the quickest a vigorous thread has been turned into a moot
point.
Hope she is okay. Hope the girl is insured.
Bob R
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 5:27 PM, Zoltan Finks msuchpo...@gmail.comwrote:
Just got a phone call from the wife. She got rearended by some girl who
hit
the
Good to hear your wife is alright. Sorry about the car :(
If this is anything like what I went through when my 740 Turbo was
wrecked last year her insurance company will find like 5 beat up 190E
comparables for $800 each, and then deduct $100 for each crack in your
dash or spot of oil on your
Yeah, I'm hoping the car has not gone moot on us. Wife says there's not that
much damage. However, the original Becker radio has popped out. ??
Yes, I expect that with classic cars. You'll never get what they're worth
from the insurance co.
Brian
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 5:29 PM, Bob Rentfro
If you play it right, your wife can fix it so you never have to work another
day.
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 7:27 PM, Zoltan Finks msuchpo...@gmail.comwrote:
Just got a phone call from the wife. She got rearended by some girl who
hit
the gas instead of the brake.
I am glad I'm not there.
Yeah, I'm hoping the car has not gone moot on us. Wife says there's
not that
much damage. However, the original Becker radio has popped out. ??
Our 190D is now poised to start making us money. The
last rear-ending just about paid for the manny-tranny
conversion, and I hammered out the dent
Quick, call 60 Minutes to investigate this unintended acceleration
incident, call for Congressional hearings, sue the maker of the car the
girl was driving for obviously defective product design and realization,
and retire fat.
--R
Zoltan Finks wrote:
Just got a phone call from the wife.
--
From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net
Quick, call 60 Minutes to investigate this unintended acceleration
incident, call for Congressional hearings, sue the maker of the car the
girl was driving for obviously defective product
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