Re: [MBZ] OT - Pickups

2011-07-13 Thread Mitch Haley
Benz Hogs wrote: Looks like a POS and you want too much for it :) http://tulsa.craigslist.org/pts/2474593056.html It's specialized for a rather small niche market. That means it's hard to find and expensive to replace, but it also means that very few people want it. If you're hauling cars or

Re: [MBZ] OT - Pickups

2011-07-13 Thread Michael Canfield
No reason you couldn't use it in a long box is there? Mike On Jul 13, 2011 9:16 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Benz Hogs wrote: Looks like a POS and you want too much for it :) http://tulsa.craigslist.org/pts/2474593056.html It's specialized for a rather small niche market. That

Re: [MBZ] OT - Pickups

2011-07-13 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
No it would be fine but the more common ones for long boxes won't fit a sb Sent from my iPhone On Jul 13, 2011, at 9:38 AM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote: No reason you couldn't use it in a long box is there? Mike On Jul 13, 2011 9:16 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:

Re: [MBZ] OT - Pickups

2011-07-13 Thread Luther's Benz
I wasn't being serious :) Luther -- Sent from my Palm Pre On Jul 13, 2011 8:16 AM, Mitch Haley lt;m...@voyager.netgt; wrote: Benz Hogs wrote: gt; Looks like a POS and you want too much for it :) gt; gt; http://tulsa.craigslist.org/pts/2474593056.html It's specialized for a rather small

Re: [MBZ] OT - Pickups

2011-07-12 Thread OK Don
FAA STC = A supplemental type certificate (*STC*) is a type certificate (TC) issued when an applicant has received *FAA* approval to modify an aircraft from its original design. On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 11:48 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 19:59:03 -0500 OK Don

Re: [MBZ] OT - Pickups

2011-07-12 Thread OK Don
Why? Which one, what size, how much? (I'm assuming it will be delivered so you can drool over my new digs). On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 11:47 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: I happen to have one for sale right now Sent from my iPhone -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990

Re: [MBZ] OT - Pickups

2011-07-12 Thread OK Don
Exactly what I was thinking of. With AVGas at $1 to $2 higher than premium unleaded - it's still a deal. On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 11:42 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: There is an L shaped transfer tank that is made to fit in the bed of PU. Comes in more than one size, two that I'm familiar

Re: [MBZ] OT - Pickups

2011-07-12 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Its a 100 gallon L tank designed for a short bed, it's the one I had in the back of my truck. Search Tulsa craigs list for diesel tanks. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 12, 2011, at 8:50 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: Why? Which one, what size, how much? (I'm assuming it will be delivered so

Re: [MBZ] OT - Pickups

2011-07-12 Thread Benz Hogs
Looks like a POS and you want too much for it :) http://tulsa.craigslist.org/pts/2474593056.html Luther KB5QHUOak Park, IL '87 300SDL (312,xxx mi) '91 Dodge Ram 150 (290,xxx mi) On 7/12/2011 9:33 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Its a 100 gallon L tank designed for a short bed, it's the

Re: [MBZ] OT - Pickups

2011-07-12 Thread G Mann
But since it's black it has a built in fuel heater function. Just park in the sun. ;)) That's gotta make it worth more. Jokes aside, they make a pretty handy way to transport fuel. If you use it to pump / transport gasoline don't forget to add a grounding cable to arrest static sparks when you

Re: [MBZ] OT - Pickups

2011-07-11 Thread Michael Canfield
No. That does not have to be true. My Chevy crew cab with 6.2 gets over 20mpg empty and weighs 6600 pounds. Search google for high mpg diesel trucks, there are some several hundred horsepower trucks getting crazy high mpg when driven conservatively. I will try to find the links for some of

Re: [MBZ] OT - Pickups

2011-07-11 Thread Mitch Haley
Michael Canfield wrote: No. That does not have to be true. My Chevy crew cab with 6.2 gets over 20mpg empty and weighs 6600 pounds. Search google for high mpg diesel trucks, there are some several hundred horsepower trucks getting crazy high mpg when driven conservatively. I will try to find

Re: [MBZ] OT - Pickups

2011-07-11 Thread Donald Snook
Ok Don wrote: There are several older Chevy and Fords in Craigs List between $1000 and $2500. I'm only looking at long bed, standard cab. Maximum hauling capacity is the primary concern, followed by not needing imediate repairs. Any engines, trannys, models, years, etc., to avoid, or look for

Re: [MBZ] OT - Pickups

2011-07-11 Thread Allan Streib
Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com writes: Also, if it were me, I would avoid the 6 cyl. I know its more efficient. But, the 6 cyls will also be worn out if the truck was really used as a truck. I agree, my BIL had a Chevy 1500 W/T with the 6 cyl and a 5-speed, didn't have very much pull. Allan

Re: [MBZ] OT - Pickups

2011-07-11 Thread Randy Bennell
On 08/07/2011 7:23 PM, OK Don wrote: I'm considering joining the local population and buyuing a pickup. I think I have the only drive in the neighborhood (if not the city) without one. The real reason is that one could replace a bunch of rental truck days in our up-coming move to the airpark

Re: [MBZ] OT - Pickups

2011-07-11 Thread Fmiser
Donald Snook wrote: If I were looking for a Chevy pick up I would look to the mid 1990's. The early 1990's had the old 700R4 transmission. That was a workhorse transmission, but they did have problems and I wonder if you could find anymore techs who know how to work on them. You are

Re: [MBZ] OT - Pickups

2011-07-11 Thread Fmiser
Randy Bennell wrote: On 08/07/2011 7:23 PM, OK Don wrote: I'm considering joining the local population and buyuing a pickup. I'm coming in on this somewhat late, but let me offer my 2 cents as well. If I were you, I would sacrifice bed length for more interior room... ... Most of the

Re: [MBZ] OT - Pickups

2011-07-11 Thread Donald Snook
Phillip wrote: The 4L60 is the same thing as a 700R4. When it became a 4L60E the TV cable (mechanical) went away an the whole thing became electronically controlled - but the mechanical parts are still the same as the late 700R4. That's not entirely accurate. You are probably right that the

Re: [MBZ] OT - Pickups 700R4 tranny

2011-07-11 Thread Randy Bennell
On 11/07/2011 3:57 PM, Donald Snook wrote: Phillip wrote: The 4L60 is the same thing as a 700R4. When it became a 4L60E the TV cable (mechanical) went away an the whole thing became electronically controlled - but the mechanical parts are still the same as the late 700R4. That's not entirely

Re: [MBZ] OT - Pickups 700R4 tranny

2011-07-11 Thread Allan Streib
Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca writes: I'm with Donald on this one. The 700R4 had lots of issues. The 4L60 may be based upon the 700R4 but is much better. The 700R4 can be rebuilt by someone who knows the things it needs to be stronger but from the factory, it had some real issues. How

Re: [MBZ] OT - Pickups 700R4 tranny

2011-07-11 Thread Randy Bennell
On 11/07/2011 4:24 PM, Allan Streib wrote: Randy Bennellrbenn...@bennell.ca writes: I'm with Donald on this one. The 700R4 had lots of issues. The 4L60 may be based upon the 700R4 but is much better. The 700R4 can be rebuilt by someone who knows the things it needs to be stronger but from the

Re: [MBZ] OT - Pickups 700R4 tranny

2011-07-11 Thread Fmiser
Phillip wrote: The 4L60 is the same thing as a 700R4. When it became a 4L60E the TV cable (mechanical) went away an the whole thing became electronically controlled - but the mechanical parts are still the same as the late 700R4. On 11/07/2011 3:57 PM, Donald Snook wrote: That's

Re: [MBZ] OT - Pickups 700R4 tranny

2011-07-11 Thread Fmiser
Allan Streib wrote: How far back does the 700R4 date? My parents had a '71 Skylark with a 350 V8 and it went through at least 3 transmissions in its first 100,000 miles. They were anything but aggressive drivers, as well. 1982 -- Philip ___

Re: [MBZ] OT - Pickups

2011-07-11 Thread OK Don
I don't doubt that a carefully driven 124 can get 35. I get 32 with the auto, holding 75 andnot worrying about economy. On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 9:22 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Michael Canfield wrote: Don't the Crazy Finns claim over 35 US MPG in a 124 with automatic tranny,

Re: [MBZ] OT - Pickups

2011-07-11 Thread OK Don
The 700R4 in Dad's late 70's or '80 Chevy 2500 burnt out when I was towing the white '76 300D over the pass East of Vegas (the 617 was in the bed of the truck). Not a fun stay in Kingman, AZ while a shop took three days to rebuild it. That having been said, they claimed to have put stronger parts

Re: [MBZ] OT - Pickups

2011-07-11 Thread Mitch Haley
OK Don wrote: I don't doubt that a carefully driven 124 can get 35. I get 32 with the auto, holding 75 andnot worrying about economy. IIRC, when I translated Mauri's liters/100km to miles/gallon, I got 37 or 38, and I think he was talking about his OM603 300TD. That's what, a 30-32mpg car at

Re: [MBZ] OT - Pickups

2011-07-11 Thread OK Don
This truck will be entirely used for hauling stuff, not people. The MBs are for hauling people. I perfer Diesel, but one of the missions might be to haul gasoline to the airpark - there's no fuel pump on the airpark. So if it's hauling a 100 gallon tank of fuel, it might as well burn some of it -

Re: [MBZ] OT - Pickups

2011-07-11 Thread Mitch Haley
OK Don wrote: This truck will be entirely used for hauling stuff, not people. The MBs are for hauling people. I perfer Diesel, but one of the missions might be to haul gasoline to the airpark - there's no fuel pump on the airpark. So if it's hauling a 100 gallon tank of fuel, it might as well

Re: [MBZ] OT - Pickups

2011-07-11 Thread OK Don
Yes - unleaded STC. On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 7:56 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: You'll be running your airplane on unleaded? Otherwise, fuel sharing wouldn't work too well. -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager

Re: [MBZ] OT - Pickups

2011-07-11 Thread Fmiser
OK Don wrote: This truck will be entirely used for hauling stuff, not people. The MBs are for hauling people. I perfer Diesel, but one of the missions might be to haul gasoline to the airpark - there's no fuel pump on the airpark. So if it's hauling a 100 gallon tank of fuel, it might as

Re: [MBZ] OT - Pickups

2011-07-11 Thread G Mann
There is an L shaped transfer tank that is made to fit in the bed of PU. Comes in more than one size, two that I'm familiar with are 75 gallon and 105 gallon. They are made so the bottom of the L fits under a cross the bed tool box and have provision for mounting a tranfer pump in a standard

Re: [MBZ] OT - Pickups

2011-07-11 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I happen to have one for sale right now Sent from my iPhone On Jul 11, 2011, at 11:42 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: There is an L shaped transfer tank that is made to fit in the bed of PU. Comes in more than one size, two that I'm familiar with are 75 gallon and 105 gallon. They are

Re: [MBZ] OT - Pickups

2011-07-11 Thread Craig
On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 19:59:03 -0500 OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: Yes - unleaded STC. What is STC? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or

Re: [MBZ] OT - Pickups

2011-07-09 Thread Dieselhead
the 240 and 300 frod six cyl inline engines are work hosses. Not particularly long lasting, but work hosses. Torquey for vergasser. OK Don wrote: Any engines, trannys, models, years, etc., to avoid, or look for specifically? Some years of aluminum head Ford V8 have problems with stuck

Re: [MBZ] OT - Pickups

2011-07-09 Thread Michael Canfield
They are also gas sucking pigs for the amount of power they have. Mike On Jul 9, 2011 8:18 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: the 240 and 300 frod six cyl inline engines are work hosses. Not particularly long lasting, but work hosses. Torquey for vergasser. OK Don wrote: Any engines,

Re: [MBZ] OT - Pickups

2011-07-09 Thread Michael Canfield
Really depends on just what you intend it for. If you want to haul a lot of weight get a Ford or Dodge 3/4 or one ton. They do that best. If you want someting that will haul household items, ride nice and get decent mpg then look at a Chevy 1/2 ton with either the 4.3 or 350 if you want more

Re: [MBZ] OT - Pickups

2011-07-09 Thread Mitch Haley
Michael Canfield wrote: They are also gas sucking pigs for the amount of power they have. Interesting EPA ratings. Looks like the main advantage of the straight 6 is ease of maintenance. 1994 F150: 300 auto 15 city, 20 hwy. 5sp 15 city, 20 hwy. 302 auto 15 city, 20 hwy. 302 5sp 15 city, 18

Re: [MBZ] OT - Pickups

2011-07-09 Thread Michael Canfield
Now take off the 25% or so that they don't really get and you might as well have a 350 Chevy that has some power when you need it. Mike On Jul 9, 2011 9:56 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Michael Canfield wrote: They are also gas sucking pigs for the amount of power they have.

Re: [MBZ] OT - Pickups

2011-07-09 Thread Dieselhead
Ja, no argument. all peecups are fuel sucking pigs. They are also gas sucking pigs for the amount of power they have. Mike On Jul 9, 2011 8:18 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: the 240 and 300 frod six cyl inline engines are work hosses. Not particularly long lasting, but work

Re: [MBZ] OT - Pickups

2011-07-08 Thread Mitch Haley
OK Don wrote: Any engines, trannys, models, years, etc., to avoid, or look for specifically? Some years of aluminum head Ford V8 have problems with stuck spark plugs. If they can prove the plugs were changed in the last couple of years, I think you'd be OK, just don't leave them in there

Re: [MBZ] OT - Pickups

2011-07-08 Thread Allan Streib
I would go with a Ford also, if it were me. A work truck model should be easy to find cheap, though it may be somewhat beat up. Allan Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net writes: OK Don wrote: Any engines, trannys, models, years, etc., to avoid, or look for specifically? Some years of aluminum

Re: [MBZ] OT - Pickups

2011-07-08 Thread OK Don
OK. Beat up nd rusty are not issues. This will still be a work truck. I just don't want a rod bender or head cracker, etc. On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 8:27 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: I would go with a Ford also, if it were me. A work truck model should be easy to find cheap,