Re: [MBZ] Opine away

2013-06-13 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Jun 12, 2013 10:17 PM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: Hasn't Jill Cathey been through a winter now with her BMW X5? Has. She sez: I like it. OK, so, as head of the maintenance dept., do *you* like it? Any problems worth mentioning, unexpected repairs, difficulty getting parts,

Re: [MBZ] Opine away the day

2013-06-12 Thread Dieselhead
Won't be doing much sprinting with a 2.7 deisel and a full load. Did they offer any Rudolf type engines in the swamp build mum trucks? Hendrik who wouldn't mind an ML if someone else paid to get it fixed For years they were building Diesel ML in Alabammy, and shipping em all over water,

Re: [MBZ] Opine away the day

2013-06-12 Thread Jim Cathey
Sprinter here has only one engine choice in NA AFAIK. 2.7L Diesel. THey all seem to zip along just fine. loaded or not. Man I met at the pump with one was delighted with his. He had a fleet of vans, this was the newest, and got 25 mpg (?) loaded, which was by far the best of them all. --

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2013-06-12 Thread Dan Penoff
There is someone in my neighborhood who has a domestic Sprinter. Nice paint job, tinted windows, several rows of seats, etc. nice looking vehicle for what it is. Can't park it in the garage, though. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jun 12, 2013, at 8:34 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote:

Re: [MBZ] Opine away

2013-06-12 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Jun 11, 2013 10:05 AM, Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote: 2nd, 3rd, and 4th that. I have to work VERY hard to get my ML to slide anywhere. Wonder how that compares to the ML's arch-rival from der Vaterland by way of the Confederacy? Hasn't Jill Cathey been through a winter now with

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2013-06-12 Thread Rich Thomas
The MLs are from the CSA too. And Sprinters. --R On 6/12/13 1:33 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: On Jun 11, 2013 10:05 AM, Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote: 2nd, 3rd, and 4th that. I have to work VERY hard to get my ML to slide anywhere. Wonder how that compares to the ML's arch-rival

Re: [MBZ] Opine away

2013-06-12 Thread Jim Cathey
Hasn't Jill Cathey been through a winter now with her BMW X5? Has. She sez: I like it. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change

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2013-06-11 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Jun 10, 2013 6:59 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: ML320 - first version. It's great in the snow, has lots of clearance, has MB safety, the initial issues have been fixed if it's still on the road now, Wow, first time I've heard a first-gen ML recommended. They got such a bad rap

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2013-06-11 Thread Randy Bennell
On 11/06/2013 10:58 AM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: On Jun 10, 2013 6:59 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: ML320 - first version. It's great in the snow, has lots of clearance, has MB safety, the initial issues have been fixed if it's still on the road now, Wow, first time I've heard a first-gen

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2013-06-11 Thread Benz Hogs
2nd, 3rd, and 4th that. I have to work VERY hard to get my ML to slide anywhere. Parked at a friends house on their snow-packed street, and almost busted my ass when I first walked on the street. Couldn't tell it was that slick when I was driving Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98

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2013-06-11 Thread OK Don
I think I averaged 20 or 21 mpg. Highest was 23, don't remember the lowest. It's a truck with a nice interior - don't compare it to a car. On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 11:40 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: On 11/06/2013 10:58 AM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: On Jun 10, 2013 6:59 PM, OK

Re: [MBZ] Opine away

2013-06-11 Thread Curt Raymond
Guy asking the question drives a Ford F150 Super Crew, EPA rated (and I took the small engine with a manual trans) 14-18mpg. -Curt Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2013 15:17:27 -0500 From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Opine away Message-ID

Re: [MBZ] Opine away

2013-06-11 Thread OK Don
Exactly. On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 10:58 AM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.comwrote: On Jun 10, 2013 6:59 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: ML320 - first version. It's great in the snow, has lots of clearance, has MB safety, the initial issues have been fixed if it's still on

Re: [MBZ] Opine away

2013-06-11 Thread Randy Bennell
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Opine away Message-ID: canzcij-gw7emo+lqzk9jcwdaoethore62+jav7jncv+p5tf...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I think I averaged 20 or 21 mpg. Highest was 23, don't remember the lowest. It's a truck with a nice interior - don't compare it to a car

Re: [MBZ] Opine away

2013-06-11 Thread Curt Raymond
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Opine away Message-ID: 51b78e5f.90...@bennell.ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Was not pointing fingers. Just wanted to know if I was right that people complained about fuel economy. My truck has averaged

Re: [MBZ] Opine away

2013-06-11 Thread Hendrik and Fay
Did you get the 2.7 compression ignition engine over there? I am starting to see a few cheaper M class over here but I read this http://www.carsurvey.org/reviews/mercedes-benz/m-class/ and move on. Hendrik who has a two wheel drive SUV On 12/06/13 05:47, OK Don wrote: I think I averaged 20

Re: [MBZ] Opine away

2013-06-11 Thread Mitch Haley
Hendrik and Fay wrote: Did you get the 2.7 compression ignition engine over there? In the Sprinter. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or

Re: [MBZ] Opine away the day

2013-06-11 Thread Hendrik and Fay
Won't be doing much sprinting with a 2.7 deisel and a full load. Did they offer any Rudolf type engines in the swamp build mum trucks? Hendrik who wouldn't mind an ML if someone else paid to get it fixed On 12/06/13 10:31, Mitch Haley wrote: Hendrik and Fay wrote: Did you get the 2.7

Re: [MBZ] Opine away

2013-06-10 Thread clay
I have no plans to travel farther than the 49th parallel. clay On Jun 7, 2013, at 8:57 AM, Randy Bennell wrote: On 07/06/2013 1:42 AM, clay wrote: Sadly she is practical and thrifty. For her upcoming birthday all she wants is the house to be clean. WTF!?! Cash is something to be hoarded

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2013-06-10 Thread Randy Bennell
How deep is the snow likely to be? If I were looking for a snow vehicle it would be a 4X4 truck with some clearance. Our old 4Runner was pretty good and I have no complaints about my F150. Both are the sort that cannot be driven on dry pavement in 4 wheel drive but are pretty stable on

Re: [MBZ] Opine away

2013-06-10 Thread Curt Raymond
: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 16:18:56 -0500 From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Opine away Message-ID: 51b642c0.6000...@bennell.ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed How deep is the snow likely to be? If I were

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2013-06-10 Thread Scott Ritchey
In my experience (1) 4WD lets you to get stuck in places where other people would never go and (2) a locking differential in 2WD is often better than 4WD with open differentials. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To

Re: [MBZ] Opine away

2013-06-10 Thread Randy Bennell
:56 -0500 From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Opine away Message-ID: 51b642c0.6000...@bennell.ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed How deep is the snow likely to be? If I were looking for a snow

Re: [MBZ] Opine away

2013-06-10 Thread Randy Bennell
On 10/06/2013 5:21 PM, Scott Ritchey wrote: In my experience (1) 4WD lets you to get stuck in places where other people would never go and (2) a locking differential in 2WD is often better than 4WD with open differentials. ___ If you are going to go

Re: [MBZ] Opine away

2013-06-10 Thread Curt Raymond
rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Opine away Message-ID: 51b6525a.4080...@bennell.ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I was not really talking about blizzards. My back lane is often drifted and has ruts from other

Re: [MBZ] Opine away

2013-06-10 Thread Dieselhead
How deep is the snow likely to be? If I were looking for a snow vehicle it would be a 4X4 truck with some clearance. Our old 4Runner was pretty good and I have no complaints about my F150. Both are the sort that cannot be driven on dry pavement in 4 wheel drive but are pretty stable on

Re: [MBZ] Opine away

2013-06-10 Thread Michael Canfield
I talked my Mom into buying a Subaru Forester when she moved to Alaska. After her first whole winter with it up there she couldn't be happier. Mike On Jun 7, 2013 2:42 AM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: Sadly she is practical and thrifty. For her upcoming birthday all she wants is the house

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2013-06-10 Thread clay
I suspect she will not be in the hinterlands and it only needs to get her to and from work and the grocery store. I am told the streets are not plowed during daytime driving hours while it snows. Everybody goes home and the plows come out. Biggest issue would then be that snow fell, it made

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2013-06-10 Thread Mitch Haley
clay wrote: I have no plans to travel farther than the 49th parallel. Tell your wife not to let any weird looking hitchhikers in the truck next time. http://gifs.gifbin.com/062013/1370886171_bear_opens_car_door_like_a_person.gif ___ http://www.okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Opine away

2013-06-10 Thread OK Don
ML320 - first version. It's great in the snow, has lots of clearance, has MB safety, the initial issues have been fixed if it's still on the road now, and did I mention that it's a Mercedes? On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 8:13 PM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: I suspect she will not be in the

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2013-06-09 Thread clay
Thank you Randy. SWMBA will be purchasing an new to her car in about a year. She needs something to drive in Anchorage. I do not need a car for snow, as I intend to remain parked in my home in the lower 48. She is making a career move that requires (?) a car for snow. I do like the cars I

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2013-06-07 Thread clay
I may have won this battle. The war continues. Got the E300 headed to the shop on the 17th. Found a PnP 95 in green with the bumper and fender, so all it will need is respray. Should be able to pull it in under $2k. Then SWMBA will demand that the car be sold so that a new bucket of

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2013-06-07 Thread clay
I do think the CDI is more reliable than the rest of the w210 line. Too many questions about quality on the earlier models. Of course, SWMBA reads Consumer Report and tells me what rolling turds the benz are. Even though she drove that E300 for 8 years and down graded to a korean sedan.

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2013-06-07 Thread clay
Sadly she is practical and thrifty. For her upcoming birthday all she wants is the house to be clean. WTF!?! Cash is something to be hoarded in her mind. I wait patiently until her new car falls apart in a year or so. Then again, she is going to sell that and move to Alaska, where she

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2013-06-07 Thread Chris James
That's great to hear!!! I had thought the damage may have been to severe to fix. Hopefully things will turn out OK you'll be able to keep it! On 6/7/2013 2:34 AM, clay wrote: I may have won this battle. The war continues. Got the E300 headed to the shop on the 17th. Found a PnP 95 in

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2013-06-07 Thread Randy Bennell
Well at the risk of opening a can of worms, I can tell you that a friend recently acquired a 2000 Lexus LS400 and really loves it. They had an E430 4matic that his wife drove. He liked it but she did not - thought it too big. He thinks he likes this one a lot more - at least in party because

Re: [MBZ] Opine away

2013-06-07 Thread Randy Bennell
On 07/06/2013 1:42 AM, clay wrote: Sadly she is practical and thrifty. For her upcoming birthday all she wants is the house to be clean. WTF!?! Cash is something to be hoarded in her mind. I wait patiently until her new car falls apart in a year or so. Then again, she is going to sell

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2013-06-07 Thread Dan Penoff
My brother got a one owner driven by an old lady to church Lexus LS300 or 400 a year or so ago. I rode in it last time I was there. Very MB-like in that the ride and car were very solid, controls were well thought out, etc. He has had very little trouble or work on it. Says its been a great

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2013-06-07 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
My son's Lexus isf is a very scary but totally awesome ride. http://www.edmunds.com/lexus/is-f/2012/?mktcat=lexus-is-f-speckw=lexus+isf+specsmktid=ga48393484gclid=CLG0x9rI0rcCFWhp7AodqiEAnA On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 12:05 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: My brother got a one owner driven by

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2013-06-07 Thread Rick Knoble
On Jun 7, 2013, at 11:05 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: My brother got a one owner driven by an old lady to church Lexus LS300 or 400 a year or so ago. I rode in it last time I was there. Very MB-like in that the ride and car were very solid, controls were well thought out, etc.

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2013-06-07 Thread OK Don
Let's see - the Subaru was a copy of the German Goliath, the Datsun 1600 was a copy of the MGB or MGA - donT remember exactly now, what else? On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 4:26 PM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote: I had read somewhere that the Lexus LS400 sedan was copied after the w126.

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2013-06-06 Thread Chris James
Some more interesting cars! I enjoyed browsing your local CL, you have quite the selection to choose from! It would certainly be fun to spend a day(s?) going looking at all the cars in your locale! :) This one has got to be at the top of the list! Beautiful, nearly fully loaded black 1997

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2013-06-06 Thread Mitch Haley
Wow, 124 ragtop prices are half what I remember from a few years ago. I really like green/saddle in those better than white/gray. Sprinter prices seem to have become even more silly than before. $22k for a 10 1/2 year old? The 2004 ML seems reasonably priced. Mitch

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2013-06-06 Thread Mitch Haley
Chris James wrote: 1993 Limited Edition 190E 2.6 (Very nice!): http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/3836344982.html Why no Sportline badges on the front fenders? Did the Sportline seats have those red inserts in them in 1993? I'd have to take a close look at my 16v and 2.5 turbo before I

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2013-06-06 Thread Dieselhead
At the moment I am doing battle with SWMBA over the replacement for the E300. I would prefer it just get fixed and life go on, but she has a bug up her ... bonnet, that a more reliable car be found. These fit my taste. What should I be aware of, and which should be avoided? clay

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2013-06-06 Thread Michael Canfield
Tell her that no matter how much cash you spend there is no guarantee that even a brand new car will be more reliable. Just fix the E and call it a day. She'll quit whining when you buy her nice things with the car payment money...lol Mikd On Jun 6, 2013 1:45 AM, clay redgh...@comcast.net

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2013-06-06 Thread Max
No such thing as a cheap Mercedes, if reliability is what you are after. In my mind, the sweet spot for diesel Mercedes is 2005/6. 1998/9 turbo diesel sedan would be next, but due to the age maybe not as reliable. -- Max Dillon Charleston, SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20

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2013-06-06 Thread Dieselhead
Tell her that no matter how much cash you spend there is no guarantee that even a brand new car will be more reliable. Just fix the E and call it a day. She'll quit whining when you buy her nice things with the car payment money...lol Mikd Hear Hear! I see a lot more newish cars F.O.R.D

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2013-06-06 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Get the car with the border collie. They are great dogs! I grew up with one in NYC that treated humans as sheep and tried to herd them. This involved rooting under ladies' dresses with his snout. Screams ensured, but not much hilarity except from me. On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 1:45 AM, clay

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2013-06-06 Thread Randy Bennell
On 06/06/2013 12:45 AM, clay wrote: At the moment I am doing battle with SWMBA over the replacement for the E300. I would prefer it just get fixed and life go on, but she has a bug up her ... bonnet, that a more reliable car be found. These fit my taste. What should I be aware of, and

Re: [MBZ] Opine away - Limited Edition 190E

2013-06-06 Thread Chris James
No, that is a real Limited Edition! The seller does note that he wrapped the original trim due to cracking, it's very similar to the original though. I'm surprised you've never heard of them or seen one. 700 each were produced of the 190E 2.3 2.6 for the '93 MY. There was no charge for the

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2013-06-06 Thread John Reames
Tell her that 210's are rust buckets and a 123 will be around long after the 210 is swept up. -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Jun 6, 2013, at 9:56, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote: Tell her that no matter how much cash you spend

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2013-06-06 Thread John Reames
Somewhere I saw a video of a border collie (attempting to) herd (farm) cats. If only I were possessed of that degree of patience in the face of such a hopeless task. -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Jun 6, 2013, at 11:19, Andrew Strasfogel

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2013-06-06 Thread Mountain Man
Chris wrote: Out of state (IL)... That is a fairly new dealership. They seem to also run a parts network of somesort. I used to see delivery van/truck with a website name that I forget, but connected to the dealer there in St Charles. Are you in IL? mao ___

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2013-06-06 Thread Chris James
No, I'm in NC. Yes, just over 2 years old...very nice! On 6/6/2013 6:18 PM, Mountain Man wrote: Chris wrote: Out of state (IL)... That is a fairly new dealership. They seem to also run a parts network of somesort. I used to see delivery van/truck with a website name that I forget, but