Re: [MBZ] Propane tank?

> (it's technically illegal to haul it with more than about 50 gallons, I'd > tarp it over if I were driving more than five miles with it) Sloshing. Those tanks probably don't have the baffles that mobile tanks have to have. -- Jim ___

Re: [MBZ] Propane tank?

On 2022-11-18 14:00, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: A bit of a drive but what about this one? https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/808503580262100/?mibextid=6ojiHh Looks better than the one I bought 8 years ago for $300 empty and thought I got a screaming bargain. I'd measure the

Re: [MBZ] Propane

I have a 100gal tank I rent from the propane company to run my cooktop. They want me to fill it up every year but a tank will last 3yr easily because it gets little use. I did manage to run out at some point a few years ago, they charged me $100 for a guy to come out and “test” the tank, I

Re: [MBZ] Propane

Motor fuel applications are typically at 7”-11” of water column, or 4-6 ounces. Appliances are typically lower than that. -D > On Nov 14, 2022, at 7:55 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: > > On Mon, 14 Nov 2022 19:39:17 -0500 mitch--- via Mercedes > wrote: > >> Standard thing is to have a high

Re: [MBZ] Propane

On Mon, 14 Nov 2022 19:39:17 -0500 mitch--- via Mercedes wrote: > Standard thing is to have a high pressure reg on the tank, sending > about 10 psi through the underground line. > > A low pressure reg on the outside of the building takes it down to > about 11 inches service pressure to the

Re: [MBZ] Propane

Another reason for this is that if you run low pressure very far you’re going to need a fairly large pipe to handle the volume - always an issue in motor fuel applications, like generator sets. Probably the number one issue on new installations, especially propane (but also natural gas) is the

Re: [MBZ] Propane

On 2022-11-14 19:26, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: I need to figure out exactly what all I need to hook it up to the shop. I do know it has to be 10’ away from the nearest building. It has a connection out the wall of the shop. I assume the line needs to be buried from tank to this line.

Re: [MBZ] Propane

I I wondered about using those 100 or 120lm tanks that are the tall cylinders, could take those down in the back of the truck to get them filled on demand. Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 14, 2022, at 6:07 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes > wrote: > > You could buy two 80 or 100 pound tanks

Re: [MBZ] Propane

I need to figure out exactly what all I need to hook it up to the shop. I do know it has to be 10’ away from the nearest building. It has a connection out the wall of the shop. I assume the line needs to be buried from tank to this line. Not sure what size the connection is but looks like a

Re: [MBZ] Propane

You could buy two 80 or 100 pound tanks and have a switchover system so that when one runs low the other one kicks in, this is not uncommon. I’m sure they would fill those on demand. They’ll still nail you for an inspection fee up front. Funny story - when I had my first top-off I used

Re: [MBZ] Propane

On 2022-11-14 18:52, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote: I think an empty tank needs to be pressure tested before a propane company will fill it. I don’t know if those big tanks are dated or if it matters Good point. An new delivery company expects the system to be under some pressure so

Re: [MBZ] Propane

I think an empty tank needs to be pressure tested before a propane company will fill it. I don’t know if those big tanks are dated or if it matters --FT Sent from iFōn > On Nov 14, 2022, at 6:30 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > I called around today to get some quotes on

Re: [MBZ] Propane

On 2022-11-14 18:29, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: I called around today to get some quotes on getting a propane tank set and filled. I would have to buy a tank since I would not use enough to lease one. Basically looking at around 3k all in. Perhaps I should look for a used tank. Anyone

Re: [MBZ] propane

I guess it makes sense that I've never seen one. I don't know much of anything about campers other than there is a key on my keyring (which is in the other room or I'd read the number off it) which opens just about every compartment in every camper. $3 for 2 on eBay. Real fun at campouts...

Re: [MBZ] propane

> I've never seen a 30# tank before, Our newer camper has two of them in it. My Dad's and my brother's Airstreams each had two of them, though those were aluminum not steel. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] propane

Lots and lots of different sizes… https://www.propanetankstore.com/sizes-dot-5-lb-200-lb-tanks/ -D > On Feb 17, 2021, at 9:02 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes > wrote: > > I've never seen a 30# tank before, I have seen 40# tanks.

Re: [MBZ] propane

I've never seen a 30# tank before, I have seen 40# tanks. Are Canadian propane tanks metric? 9kg? -Curt On Wednesday, February 17, 2021, 6:41:09 PM EST, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: Something that was not said when you folks were talking about 20#and 100# propane tanks is that

Re: [MBZ] Propane

I assume they already have the propane kits installed, as there has never been NG at that site? They're used, and apparently were used where they are now? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe

Re: [MBZ] Propane

I've managed to get one wall done in mine beyond the 3/4" Cellite installed when it was built in 1974. Still stays above freezing except when super cold, and gets quite warm on sunny days. I may live long enough to get it fully insulated and the windows I want to make put in so I can see

Re: [MBZ] Propane

; Sent: February 15, 2021 6:43 PM > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Cc: d...@penoff.com > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Propane > > At least on propane they put out 20,000 BTU more than on natural gas. Those > look like the one I had in my three car insulated garage in

Re: [MBZ] Propane

Yeah. In an uninsulated okie barn, it would be cheaper heating with dollar bills. Rick From: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: February 15, 2021 6:43 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: d...@penoff.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Propane At least on propane they put out 20,000

Re: [MBZ] Propane

At least on propane they put out 20,000 BTU more than on natural gas. Those look like the one I had in my three car insulated garage in Wisconsin. If I fired it up full blast it was like a sweat lodge within an hour. -D > On Feb 15, 2021, at 6:57 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > >

Re: [MBZ] Propane

Yup, different orifices that will be smaller as propane has a higher BTU content than natural gas. The springs are for the demand regulator, as they will alter the pressure for operation on propane as well. Just unscrew the cover, remove the old spring, pop in the new one, screw the cover back

Re: [MBZ] Propane

It has 2 of them, one in each corner.  I figure I would only run 1 at a time. On 2/15/2021 5:44 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: Ugh. If you could set that thing up for lp or propane it would blow through about 7 or 8 pounds of fuel an hour of run time. I could have sworn I suggested

Re: [MBZ] Propane

Correct.  IIRC the orifice size for propane is smaller.  Not long after we moved in I pulled one of them and somebody has welded them closed then drilled them out to the smaller size.  I also ordered a kit to convert it with new orifices and some sort of springs and things for the valve or

Re: [MBZ] Propane

Ugh. If you could set that thing up for lp or propane it would blow through about 7 or 8 pounds of fuel an hour of run time. I could have sworn I suggested enclosing a smaller space to heat and cool in your pole barn If not, well there's a suggestion for a project for you. Rick

Re: [MBZ] Propane

According to that label it's set up for natural gas. You'll need to convert it to run it on propane. Allan Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes writes: > Ventured out across the frozen Okie acres tundra to the shop. Pic attached of > the label on the overhead heater (there are 2). Looks like it’s a

Re: [MBZ] Propane cost [was: Re: OT: Heat Pump Demand Defrost?]

> On January 16, 2019 at 8:31 PM Craig via Mercedes > wrote: > > When did it go down? > > My landlord filled his 1000 gallon tank on 16 October and the cost was > $1.99/gallon. I, of course, am paying that as I use it. When I bought my house in 2012 I think I paid $1.79 introductory

Re: [MBZ] PROPANE/BUTANE MIX. was: White Whale Plan of Attack: Weak AC

> > I thought Jim had said his server crashed and he had lost all it's data. Half right. The original site went down, but I lost _nothing_. The site was mastered elsewhere, and there were multiple backups. (Which is good, since that hosting machine went down, too.) Google suggests that some

Re: [MBZ] PROPANE/BUTANE MIX. was: White Whale Plan of Attack: Weak AC

On Wed, 29 Aug 2018 17:04:30 -0400 Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote: > OMG he’s using ISOMERS > > I mean you know like this has to really scary Acck! :-) Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search

Re: [MBZ] PROPANE/BUTANE MIX. was: White Whale Plan of Attack: Weak AC

> On August 29, 2018 at 5:06 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes > wrote: > > > Google suggests that some camping stove fuel is isobutane. Because nothing is more annoying than being unable to heat food in cold weather, and if you've ever tried to use a butane lighter that wasn't stored in a

Re: [MBZ] PROPANE/BUTANE MIX. was: White Whale Plan of Attack: Weak AC

On Wed, 29 Aug 2018 14:57:16 -0600 Craig via Mercedes wrote: > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isobutane > > Isobutane is obtained by isomerization of butane. > > Alkanes > > Skeletal isomerization is not normally encountered in the laboratory, > but is the basis of large applications in

Re: [MBZ] PROPANE/BUTANE MIX. was: White Whale Plan of Attack: Weak AC

Google suggests that some camping stove fuel is isobutane. RB On 29/08/2018 3:57 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: On Wed, 29 Aug 2018 14:01:06 -0500 fmiser via Mercedes wrote: Gerry wrote: Isn't there an "R" number for the propane/isobutane mixture? Jim wrote: Not for the mix, so far as I

Re: [MBZ] PROPANE/BUTANE MIX. was: White Whale Plan of Attack: Weak AC

OMG he’s using ISOMERS I mean you know like this has to really scary --R Sent from iPhone > On Aug 29, 2018, at 4:57 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: > > On Wed, 29 Aug 2018 14:01:06 -0500 fmiser via Mercedes > wrote: > > Gerry wrote: > > Isn't there an "R" number for the

Re: [MBZ] PROPANE/BUTANE MIX. was: White Whale Plan of Attack: Weak AC

On Wed, 29 Aug 2018 14:01:06 -0500 fmiser via Mercedes wrote: > > > > Gerry wrote: > > > > > > > > Isn't there an "R" number for the propane/isobutane mixture? > > > > Jim wrote: > > > > > > Not for the mix, so far as I know. But propane is R290, and > > > isobutane is R600A. > > > Gerry

Re: [MBZ] PROPANE/BUTANE MIX. was: White Whale Plan of Attack: Weak AC

> > > Gerry wrote: > > > > > > Isn't there an "R" number for the propane/isobutane mixture? > > Jim wrote: > > > > Not for the mix, so far as I know. But propane is R290, and > > isobutane is R600A. > Gerry wrote: > On a related topic, Walmart has large cans of propane/butane mix > for $10.00.

Re: [MBZ] PROPANE/BUTANE MIX. was: White Whale Plan of Attack: Weak AC

Oh, right, thanks. I thought Jim had said his server crashed and he had lost all it's data. This must have been the one I remembered. I'll have to check the can I bought to see if it is isobutane. Meade Dillon wrote: > Gerry, from Jim's Chicken

Re: [MBZ] PROPANE/BUTANE MIX. was: White Whale Plan of Attack: Weak AC

I find I don't bother with fitting temperatures anymore. I just put in one can of mix, and add propane (less than a cylinder's worth) until the system is working well, while keeping an eye on the pressures to make sure I don't go too far. -- Jim > > ___

Re: [MBZ] PROPANE/BUTANE MIX. was: White Whale Plan of Attack: Weak AC

Gerry, from Jim's Chicken Wagon blog here: http://formicapeak.com/~jimc/cwair.html " The next step is to try it out. I fully charge the system, using a mix of Isobutane (R600a) and Propane (R290). This mix (70% Isobutane, 30% Propane) is usually available at sporting goods stores as high-altitude

Re: [MBZ] Propane tanks

Sounds like a business opportunity, use your tractor and trailer to start moving tanks... -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On January 10, 2016 5:54:36 PM EST, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" wrote: >There are almost no 200-500 gallon propane tanks for

Re: [MBZ] Propane tanks

> On January 10, 2016 at 5:54 PM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" > wrote: > > > There are almost no 200-500 gallon propane tanks for sale on Tulsa craigslist, > but tons in OKC. Geez How far is this one? http://tulsa.craigslist.org/app/5387128438.html

Re: [MBZ] Propane tanks

Are you looking for a used one? Have you checked around for new ones from local suppliers? Most of them deliver. These guys are in Tulsa: http://www.laferryspropane.com/equipmentforsale.asp Dan > On Jan 10, 2016, at 5:54 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes > wrote:

Re: [MBZ] Propane tanks

I have found some being sold by dealers but was looking for a cheap one. I may end up just getting one from a dealer so hopefully it will be good. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 10, 2016, at 5:02 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > Are you looking for a used one?

Re: [MBZ] Propane tanks

They will also give you a guarantee with a cert that might make the suppliers fill it without trying to rape you for an “inspection”. Dan > On Jan 10, 2016, at 6:11 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > I have found some being sold by dealers but was looking

Re: [MBZ] Propane tanks

Kaleb whines: There are almost no 200-500 gallon propane tanks for sale on Tulsa craigslist, but tons in OKC. Geez Sent from my iPhone You have a peecup and a trailer. Go get em ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] Propane tanks

About 2.5 hours away Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 10, 2016, at 5:58 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes > wrote: > > > >> On January 10, 2016 at 5:54 PM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" >> wrote: >> >> >> There are almost no 200-500 gallon propane

Re: [MBZ] Propane generator - Poos or Cathey?

My parent's two year old single cylinder Generac backup genny was not happy during its weekly exercise today. Sounded to me like it was blubbering rich. Low and irregular rpm, accompanied by a smell of propane when I opened the lid on the housing. Any bright ideas? I'll start by taking a look

Re: [MBZ] Propane generator - Poos or Cathey?

Sounds like a bad or failed secondary gas regulator. Look for a vent on the regulator and see if you can tell if there is gas coming from it when you try to start it. E-mail me off list with the model and serial number and I can be more specific. Dan --- On Sun, 4/12/09, Mitch Haley