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Curt wrote:
I don't know what the answer is
Yes
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Anecdotal evidence I know, but from 3 different docs I've heard
Curt Raymond wrote:
Part of that has been the unwillingness to self-regulate bad doctors. Other
docs have been covering up for years and years. Sort of like pedophile priests.
...or crooked lawyers/judges, or bad cops. (but I think cops are the only ones
where the 'bad apples' get to dictate
-regulate bad doctors. Other
docs have been covering up for years and years. Sort of like pedophile
priests.
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 07:10:09 -0400
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i once had a doctor who was very concerned about the treatment my daughter
was getting from her pediatrician and he privately told me roughly the
following: ok, i
close at the numbers but I suspect
the penalty is cheaper than insurance.
-Curt
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 20:25:22 -0400
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You are indeed VERY lucky -- so am I, in that I've never gotten stuck
On Wed, 23 Sep 2009 05:52 -0700, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:
I'm 33, I got to the doctor maybe once every 2 years, chiropractor maybe
4 or 5 times a year, nothing else. My insurance costs my employer and
myself probably $3,000 a year (for just me) to provide maybe $400 in
Curt Raymond wrote:
When I was last unemployed Cobra was $900/mo for just me... I didn't take it
but if I get unemployed again I HAVE to, MA state law says take insurance or
pay the penalty. Actually I'll have to look close at the numbers but I suspect
the penalty is cheaper than insurance.
Allan Streib wrote:
... sitting pretty until God forbid one of you has an accident and spends a few
weeks in intensive care. Then your math works a little differently.
I don't know about Curt, but here in Michigan that would not be on the health
insurer, it would be between the auto
Nothing is keeping you in the US. You are free to get a work visa and
move to any civilized country of your choice. Chances are you will be
fully insured the moment you set foot on foreign soil. That's not how
it works in the US, however...
-Dave Walton
On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 9:23 AM, Mitch
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I'm 33, I got to the doctor maybe once
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Nothing is keeping you in the US. You
maybe what keeps him here is that haley kinda thinks it's his country and
just can't figure out how to get it back from guys like you?
the idea that we should just cheerfully accept being more abused than 19th
century russian surfs or get out is a tough one for me to understand.
On Wed, Sep 23,
Perhaps I need to be a bit more explicit when using sarcasm?
I did intend, however, to put the issue into a more global perspective.
-Dave Walton
On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 11:01 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote:
maybe what keeps him here is that haley kinda thinks it's his country and
pay, that's who pays
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On Wed, 23 Sep 2009 05:52 -0700, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:
I'm 33, I got to the doctor maybe once
that chasing where that money goes is a good way to
get to the truth.
-Curt
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 13:43:00 + (UTC)
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to bias our
healthcare costs up by forcing hospitals to have excess capacity and thus extra
costs.
-Curt
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 14:05:14 + (UTC)
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The European long wait argument is a pretty common one used against
socialized medicine. I'm given to understand the long wait is for
routine non-life threatening
LarryT wrote:
The BBC reports wait times for chemo therapy is 6-8 months
That's one way to lower the cost of cancer treatment.
Mitch.
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LarryT wrote:
The BBC reports wait times for chemo therapy is 6-8 months
That's one way to lower the cost of cancer treatment.
Mitch
LarryT wrote:
But Obama doesn't consider that as rationing - which is where the
whole death squad controversy came from.
What do Death Squads have to do with health care?
Do you expect Obama to reassign Lon Horiuchi and friends from the Federal Bureau
of Instigation to the Ministry of
Mitch wrote:
If this comes to pass, it will mean the end of my
compliance with all federal tax laws, and no, I won't be paying the fine for
failure to purchase insurance either.
I'm singing the same song here.
When not-having-insurance becomes outlawed, only outlaws will not have
insurance.
Curt wrote:
I don't know what the answer is
Yes there is a golden bullet type answer - annihilate the racketeering
- it is common law in each state of the union, if not the federal
rule. Once you eliminate the pool of monies that providers can tap
into, the costs need to drop to a level where
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From: Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 11:03 PM
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Dan wrote:
Just as some
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Dan wrote:
Just as some dillweed who makes a conscious choice to avoid the use
of protective gear, I should have the choice as to whether or not I
fund research that might keep him from being a drooling quadraplegic
for the rest of his life after he gets road
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Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 8:25 PM
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I don't know about the rest of ya'll but I was pretty healthy for many
years. For an 11 year span I didn't miss work for health reasons. Then
when I turned 50
You are indeed VERY lucky -- so am I, in that I've never gotten stuck
with a huge bill, but then I've been very healthy.
Not every one is, though, and larger and larger numbers of people are
going without decent insurance since it costs one of two paychecks
per month for some of the guys I
Something is wrong with our indoctrinated concepts of insco and
payments. As --R mentions - they bet on no failure, you know better.
Then when failure comes, we are thankful for... failure? so they can
pay out? I mean, what did pa do out on the prairie 100 years ago when
failure happened? Yep,
in re: belts
..This is a common but stupid defense. When some fool gets himself made
a charge of the state because of traumatic brain injury, Who Pays???..
Absolutely right. Applies to those knuckleheads who don't wear approved
helmets while riding their motorcycles, too.
RLE
yeah, like those people who eat well and exercise who end up living forever
and clogging up our nursing homes. i'm tired of paying for them too!
On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 2:32 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote:
in re: belts
..This is a common but stupid defense. When some fool gets himself
being a drooling quadraplegic for the rest of his life
after he gets road rash from a wreck on his bike.
Dan
--- On Mon, 9/21/09, relng...@aol.com relng...@aol.com wrote:
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To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Date: Monday
Dan wrote:
Just as some dillweed who makes a conscious choice to avoid the use of
protective gear, I should have the choice as to whether or not I fund
research that might keep him from being a drooling quadraplegic for the rest
of his life after he gets road rash from a wreck on his bike.
At one point many years ago I realized insurance was kinda weird in that
the insco is betting that you won't die or get mangled, and you are
betting you will. That sounds kinda backwards.
--R
Mountain Man wrote:
Dan wrote:
Just as some dillweed who makes a conscious choice to avoid the
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