[MBZ] Harrowing and or Hilarious driving stories
Engaging stories, Timothy. Brings to mind three things: 1. The house we bought recently used to belong to two sisters - both elderly PhDs - one an author, the other an artist. I understand that in addition to sharing the house they shared some large American sedan and everyone knew to stay out of their way. 2. I guess it was good advice that my parents always gave me: The dog could run under the brake pedal! 3. My first serious girlfriend (we were about 16) put her parents' Ford Maverick into their living room after we had sneaked it out. I parked it in the carport but she decided it needed reparking to avoid parents' detection. She panicked and hit the gas instead of the brake. I certainly don't purport to have nerves of steel, but I have noticed that this whole panicking and hitting the wrong pedal thing seems to be a female trait. As much as women vehemently insist on enjoying the status as drivers equal-to or better-than than men, it just ain't true. Most would benefit hugely from a very basic understanding of the vehicle and its dynamics. In addition, I just don't think it's inborn to a woman to control moving machinery. Had to cringe today as I was tailgated by a cute high school aged thing piloting a brand new Suburban and neglecting repeatedly to use her turn signals. I then watched her in my rearview turn a corner and proceed to tailgate the next guy. Brian Timothy wrote:The prize must go to old Hazel though. She had a little balding dog which might have once been a toy poodle. FeeFee rode in the car whenever Hazel went out. Hazel had knitted the dog a little afghan which matched the pillows in the rear window of the 70's Chrysler Imperial. Returning one day from the grocery, Hazel pressed the garage door control and proceeded to manuever the tank into the basement garage. She glanced down and discovered FeeFee was cold and had shifted positions. Fearing to pinch the little dog with the brake pedal Hazel reacted in a split second to step on the accelerator. The Imperial lunged forward taking out the hot water heater, the oil furnace and exiting the other end of the basement through the cinderblocks. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] When it rains....
Started the car this morning (new starter is SO quiet) and the alternator light came on. In fact all the lights came on but thats normal. For awhile now the lights have been coming on, glowing for a second and going out so I knew this was coming. Today the lights wouldn't go out even when I revved the engine... Crap. So theres the triad, battery, starter, and now alternator. Its already had a new voltage regulator within the year. I'm still holding out for the VR, its been a year but probably 40,000 miles. How many miles should I expect from one? -Curt - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Harrowing and or Hilarious driving stories
I dare you to go home tonight and tell your wife she is genetially predisposed to be an inferior driver. See how far that gets you. Then watch the woman who is the course champ on the Nürburgring. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dcw7MqsGbE -Curt Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 03:22:09 -0800 From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Harrowing and or Hilarious driving stories To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Engaging stories, Timothy. Brings to mind three things: 3. My first serious girlfriend (we were about 16) put her parents' Ford Maverick into their living room after we had sneaked it out. I parked it in the carport but she decided it needed reparking to avoid parents' detection. She panicked and hit the gas instead of the brake. I certainly don't purport to have nerves of steel, but I have noticed that this whole panicking and hitting the wrong pedal thing seems to be a female trait. As much as women vehemently insist on enjoying the status as drivers equal-to or better-than than men, it just ain't true. Most would benefit hugely from a very basic understanding of the vehicle and its dynamics. In addition, I just don't think it's inborn to a woman to control moving machinery. Had to cringe today as I was tailgated by a cute high school aged thing piloting a brand new Suburban and neglecting repeatedly to use her turn signals. I then watched her in my rearview turn a corner and proceed to tailgate the next guy. Brian - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Toyota/Mercedes hoods
Looks like where getting ripped off on the price of Mercs over here, not that I am in the market for one of the new plastic fantastics. I suppose the bonnets are sealed and can only be opened by a certified technician with a special tool. Also loved ones don't let loved ones drive death traps like the corolla. No, not exactly sealed, but when one pulls the hood release a warning comes on the display that sez Warning: There be Dragons under there; Return to Dealer. Tony Wirtel 2 x w124's ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] rant - was: 123 frontend rebuild
The, to and you are all short words. To quote Stephen Wright, why is abbreviation such a long word? -Curt Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 00:36:22 -0600 From: Fmiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] rant - was: 123 frontend rebuild To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII It seems than at Thu, 20 Dec 2007 22:51:48 -0600, Rich wrote: You need a nice single malt, pour a wee dram and sip it slowly while staring at the fire. Probably I would suggest a Dalwhinnie or Balvenie Double Wood if you are wound up, a Lagavulin 16 if you are feeling a bit more mellow. Repeat as needed. Will you deliver? Can't wake the youngsters to take them along - can't leave them behind. A trip to town involves more than 25 miles. But to answer your question, when those words are repeated over and over, at some point it becomes redundant to write them out. That doesn't hold water. Words like the to you are repeated way more than the particular technical names. And if those abbreviations are not defined earlier in the post, it tends to exclude anyone not steeped in the sub-culture of Mercedes repair - rather than educating and encouraging them to join in. And it makes me _think!_ My opinion. *smile* -- Philip, off to find a fire or something. - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Harrowing and or Hilarious driving stories
From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] As much as women vehemently insist on enjoying the status as drivers equal-to or better-than than men, it just ain't true. Most would benefit hugely from a very basic understanding of the vehicle and its dynamics. In addition, I just don't think it's inborn to a woman to control moving machinery.snip -- I think the problem is the backwardness of the auto industry. As soon as automatic transmissions were invented, the auto manufacturers should have moved the brake pedal to the left side of the steering column; leaving only the accellerator on the right side. It's only logical that with nearly all cars being automatic nowadays, the brake should be operated by the left foot and the accellerator by the right foot. Trying to both stop and go with one foot is what confuses people who aren't mechanically inclined. Even if a person got confused, all they would have to do is push hard on both pedals and the car would not go very far, very fast. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] When it rains....
Curt, Is the VR inside the alternator on that like the 240D? Dwight Bissell Cove Quahog Auto Salvage Co Dwight E. Giles, Jr. Wickford RI 02852 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 9:40 AM To: Diesel List Subject: [MBZ] When it rains Started the car this morning (new starter is SO quiet) and the alternator light came on. In fact all the lights came on but thats normal. For awhile now the lights have been coming on, glowing for a second and going out so I knew this was coming. Today the lights wouldn't go out even when I revved the engine... Crap. So theres the triad, battery, starter, and now alternator. Its already had a new voltage regulator within the year. I'm still holding out for the VR, its been a year but probably 40,000 miles. How many miles should I expect from one? -Curt - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A State Trooper after my own heart.
Yeah I hope that nutter runs into that Texas cop who is trigger happy with his stun gun. Curt Raymond wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlr041dVKYo Gotta be in Maine from the way they talk. I can't believe how cool this guy stays. -Curt - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] A State Trooper after my own heart.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlr041dVKYo Gotta be in Maine from the way they talk. I can't believe how cool this guy stays. -Curt - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] When it rains....
I'm still holding out for the VR, its been a year but probably 40,000 miles. How many miles should I expect from one? More than that, but if you put a new brush pack up against worn and rough slip rings I could see how it might chew it up quickly. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] When it rains....
Is this the 190D that you were offering to sell to me? grin On Dec 21, 2007 8:39 AM, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Started the car this morning (new starter is SO quiet) and the alternator light came on. In fact all the lights came on but thats normal. For awhile now the lights have been coming on, glowing for a second and going out so I knew this was coming. Today the lights wouldn't go out even when I revved the engine... Crap. So theres the triad, battery, starter, and now alternator. Its already had a new voltage regulator within the year. I'm still holding out for the VR, its been a year but probably 40,000 miles. How many miles should I expect from one? -Curt - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Harrowing and or Hilarious driving stories
archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It's only logical that with nearly all cars being automatic nowadays, the brake should be operated by the left foot and the accellerator by the right foot. Trying to both stop and go with one foot is what confuses people who aren't mechanically inclined. Using one foot forces you to RELEASE the throttle when you engage the brake. If you put the brake where the clutch is supposed to be, then people who are accustomed to a manual transmission would be punching the brake. If you can't stop and go with one foot you have no business behind the wheel of a car. -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Harrowing and or Hilarious driving stories
OK, here's another one. True story. Also a high school date story. My high school girlfriend's father was (still is) an internationally renowned authority on biblical texts who teaches at Harvard. Classic absent-minded professor. Brilliant beyond description, but he often wouldn't recognize me, tho I was practically part of the family, if I showed up at the door while he was working. Authored a stack of books, and still appears on TV occasionally to comment on the latest archeological discovery in the holy lands. Smoked a pipe, wore bow ties to bed (at least I never saw him without one), and had a penchant for Olds 442 convertibles and drove like a holy terror-- frequently while reading the Phd. dissertation he was supposed to have finished a month ago. Once, in a characteristic rush to get to a dissertation defense, he fired up the 455 and was about to back out of the driveway when he realized it was a fine day and he should take the top down. He is a short and impatient man, and had difficulty gaining enough leverage on the convertible top latch on the top of the windshield frame, so he stood on the brake pedal with both feet to get a better purchase on it. When the latch let go, his right foot slipped off the brake pedal, mashing the throttle to the cut-pile. As he tumbled back into his seat, tach pegged, his right elbow knocked the console shifter to the bottom of the gate. He drove wide open, two stripes of rubber, through the garage door and pushed his wife's Cutlass right out the back wall, totalling not only both cars, but the garage as well. Dan, he said to me with a chuckle, you should have seen the insurance report for that one! Ah, that four-four-two, he added with a wistful smile. It would spin the wheels in high. By the time I knew him, he'd replaced the 442 with a Fiat X 1/9, which I had the pleasure of teaching two of his lovely daughters to drive on. Dan 82 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Harrowing and or Hilarious driving stories
IIRC-the evidence I saw years ago was to the contrary and advised against two foot braking. Any source on reaction times? Thanks, Dwight Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 215K miles. 1979 240D- auto -250K + miles (FOR SALE) 1990 300D 2.5t 150K miles Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 10:42 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Harrowing and or Hilarious driving stories I disagree stongly. Your reaction times are much faster using 2 feet. Pete -- Original message -- From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] archer writes: It's only logical that with nearly all cars being automatic nowadays, the brake should be operated by the left foot and the accellerator by the right foot. Trying to both stop and go with one foot is what confuses people who aren't mechanically inclined. Using one foot forces you to RELEASE the throttle when you engage the brake. If you put the brake where the clutch is supposed to be, then people who are accustomed to a manual transmission would be punching the brake. If you can't stop and go with one foot you have no business behind the wheel of a car. -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] I'm In Love was Re: Harrowing and or Hilarious driving stories
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dcw7MqsGbE Yeah. I'm in love Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Harbor Freight multimeter
For $5 you can get one with a backlight. Helps much if you are stuck in the dark: http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=92020 -Dave Walton On Dec 21, 2007 10:33 AM, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Harbor Freight is currently running the $2.99 special on their cheap multimeter. http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=90899 Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Toyota
I would not buy a corolla for my kid, ever! The girl who was burned so badly that it took over a week to identfy her had a minor accident in a new toyota, Apparently the fuel pump kept pumping gasoline into what should have been a minor fire in the engine compartment, turning the tin can into an oven. I posted about this about a year ago. The girl was a friend of my daughter's. 4 years ago my daughter was t-boned by an idiot. She was driving her 380SL and walked away from a more serious accident. At 07:58 PM 12/20/2007, you wrote: The Corolla is just the thing for a girl's first car and there are plenty of them on the used market. Of course, when one buys with price as the only factor, sacrifices must be made. Do you reacll the old quote about knowing the price of everything and the value of nothing? RLE Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Harbor Freight multimeter
Harbor Freight is currently running the $2.99 special on their cheap multimeter. http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=90899 Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Harrowing and or Hilarious driving stories
I disagree stongly. Your reaction times are much faster using 2 feet. Pete -- Original message -- From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] archer writes: It's only logical that with nearly all cars being automatic nowadays, the brake should be operated by the left foot and the accellerator by the right foot. Trying to both stop and go with one foot is what confuses people who aren't mechanically inclined. Using one foot forces you to RELEASE the throttle when you engage the brake. If you put the brake where the clutch is supposed to be, then people who are accustomed to a manual transmission would be punching the brake. If you can't stop and go with one foot you have no business behind the wheel of a car. -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Harrowing and or Hilarious driving stories
Allan S. wrote: If you can't stop and go with one foot you have no business behind the wheel of a car. I agree. It drives me crazy when I see someone with their brake lights going on and off while they are accelerating. You can tell they are using their left foot to brake and then riding the brake. Not only is that dangerous to other drivers, but it also wears out their brakes. I was playing golf with a client of mine who is an insurance adjuster. I was standing in front of the cart waiting for the other two guys to hit. My client stepped on the gas and hit me -- not bad just sort of banged into my leg. He was very apologetic. THEN, he did it again. He kept saying I thought I was hitting the brake. I managed to get out of the way before he did it a third time. On the second hit, my hand got cut on a sharp part of the windshield frame. I had to play the rest of the round (this was hole #2) with blood filling up my glove. We always knew which ball was mine because it had blood on it. After we could laugh about it, I asked him if he now believed those stories about people who said, I thought I was hitting the brake. I made sure I rode in the other cart ever since then. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Harrowing and or Hilarious driving stories
For road drivers, I think the whole reaction time thing by two footing it is pointless. I don't know anyone that concentrates, all the time, to the point where two footing it would make a difference on the road, in the real world. If you really need that kind of reaction time, you would be better serviced by trying to think ahead more, and a little more distance between you and the other stuff around you on the road. Only time I've two footed it, was not for reaction time, but to help transfer weight a little to the front and increasing contact patch, or, if you have a turbo car with big lag and you're trying to set the front end to turn in, and you want to keep the revs up at the same time. Again, neither of these things have any business on the road, as to use them means you're pushing just way to hard. It's not the reaction time of the feet that catches most ppl out, it's the reaction time of the head that does. You quickly get to a point where you can think way faster than a car can react or do what you want, so best thing, is to try and think way ahead and do your best to see stuff before it happens. These are just my thoughts, but they've allowed me to travel pretty quick most of my driving years and stay out of trouble for the most part. Ed 300E On 21/12/2007, Dwight E. Giles, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IIRC-the evidence I saw years ago was to the contrary and advised against two foot braking. Any source on reaction times? Thanks, Dwight Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 215K miles. 1979 240D- auto -250K + miles (FOR SALE) 1990 300D 2.5t 150K miles Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 10:42 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Harrowing and or Hilarious driving stories I disagree stongly. Your reaction times are much faster using 2 feet. Pete -- Original message -- From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] archer writes: It's only logical that with nearly all cars being automatic nowadays, the brake should be operated by the left foot and the accellerator by the right foot. Trying to both stop and go with one foot is what confuses people who aren't mechanically inclined. Using one foot forces you to RELEASE the throttle when you engage the brake. If you put the brake where the clutch is supposed to be, then people who are accustomed to a manual transmission would be punching the brake. If you can't stop and go with one foot you have no business behind the wheel of a car. -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A State Trooper after my own heart.
This video is included as training for all officers in the federal Law Enforcement Academy as how to respond to less than cooperative individuals! On Dec 21, 2007 7:17 AM, Hendrik Fay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah I hope that nutter runs into that Texas cop who is trigger happy with his stun gun. Curt Raymond wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlr041dVKYo Gotta be in Maine from the way they talk. I can't believe how cool this guy stays. -Curt - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Rory Morrison Oroville, WA 1985 300SD 1982 300TD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] When it rains....
I've had the third party (noname) brush/vr sets fail in less than a year, with less miles than 40,000. In general, they last pretty long. I have not had trouble with the Bosch brush/vr sets, but i haven't bought Bosch for years. They are 3-4 times as much as the no-name ones. At 09:27 AM 12/21/2007, you wrote: I'm still holding out for the VR, its been a year but probably 40,000 miles. How many miles should I expect from one? More than that, but if you put a new brush pack up against worn and rough slip rings I could see how it might chew it up quickly. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I'm In Love was Re: Harrowing and or Hilarious driving stories
I think we need to hook Sabina up for a date with this guy, Stefan (sp), driving my all time fave car. :-) Seems a match made in heaven. lol http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6Thomd4BQg Ed 300E On 21/12/2007, Rick Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dcw7MqsGbE Yeah. I'm in love Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] You don't see many of these
A real blast from the past - a veritable dinosaur. The seller seems honest, but needs to work on eliminating his redundant redundancies: The original owner purchased it new... On Dec 21, 2007 11:39 AM, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ebay item # 320197231065 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1983-Pontiac-6000LE-diesel-4-3L-V6_W0QQit emZ320197231065QQihZ011QQcategoryZ6386QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewI tem I didn't know these ever came with a diesel engine. It's cheap! Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] You don't see many of these
Ebay item # 320197231065 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1983-Pontiac-6000LE-diesel-4-3L-V6_W0QQit emZ320197231065QQihZ011QQcategoryZ6386QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewI tem I didn't know these ever came with a diesel engine. It's cheap! Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Harrowing and or Hilarious driving stories
I'm learning to two-foot. Because the '83 300TD idles too slow when I start it up on a cold morning, I neeed to keep up the revs when braking to keep the car from stalling, until it reaches operating temperature. 1983 300TD On Dec 21, 2007 11:29 AM, E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For road drivers, I think the whole reaction time thing by two footing it is pointless. I don't know anyone that concentrates, all the time, to the point where two footing it would make a difference on the road, in the real world. If you really need that kind of reaction time, you would be better serviced by trying to think ahead more, and a little more distance between you and the other stuff around you on the road. Only time I've two footed it, was not for reaction time, but to help transfer weight a little to the front and increasing contact patch, or, if you have a turbo car with big lag and you're trying to set the front end to turn in, and you want to keep the revs up at the same time. Again, neither of these things have any business on the road, as to use them means you're pushing just way to hard. It's not the reaction time of the feet that catches most ppl out, it's the reaction time of the head that does. You quickly get to a point where you can think way faster than a car can react or do what you want, so best thing, is to try and think way ahead and do your best to see stuff before it happens. These are just my thoughts, but they've allowed me to travel pretty quick most of my driving years and stay out of trouble for the most part. Ed 300E On 21/12/2007, Dwight E. Giles, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IIRC-the evidence I saw years ago was to the contrary and advised against two foot braking. Any source on reaction times? Thanks, Dwight Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 215K miles. 1979 240D- auto -250K + miles (FOR SALE) 1990 300D 2.5t 150K miles Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 10:42 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Harrowing and or Hilarious driving stories I disagree stongly. Your reaction times are much faster using 2 feet. Pete -- Original message -- From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] archer writes: It's only logical that with nearly all cars being automatic nowadays, the brake should be operated by the left foot and the accellerator by the right foot. Trying to both stop and go with one foot is what confuses people who aren't mechanically inclined. Using one foot forces you to RELEASE the throttle when you engage the brake. If you put the brake where the clutch is supposed to be, then people who are accustomed to a manual transmission would be punching the brake. If you can't stop and go with one foot you have no business behind the wheel of a car. -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] When it rains....
I wouldn't say in so much as on but yeah they're the same. Wife reports that the light went out soon after she got in the car... Thats odd. Indy will be putting in my spare VR tomorrow morning. -Curt Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 10:22:18 -0500 From: Dwight E. Giles, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] When it rains To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Curt, Is the VR inside the alternator on that like the 240D? Dwight Bissell Cove Quahog Auto Salvage Co Dwight E. Giles, Jr. Wickford RI 02852 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 9:40 AM To: Diesel List Subject: [MBZ] When it rains Started the car this morning (new starter is SO quiet) and the alternator light came on. In fact all the lights came on but thats normal. For awhile now the lights have been coming on, glowing for a second and going out so I knew this was coming. Today the lights wouldn't go out even when I revved the engine... Crap. So theres the triad, battery, starter, and now alternator. Its already had a new voltage regulator within the year. I'm still holding out for the VR, its been a year but probably 40,000 miles. How many miles should I expect from one? -Curt - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] You don't see many of these
Donald Snook wrote: Ebay item # 320197231065 My Dad bought a used 1983 Gutless Ciera. Something wrong with that heap. 0-60 in 28 seconds (not normal) 30mpg hwy (also not normal). When injection pump died around 100k (normal) and it was rebuilt and retimed, car ran as crappy as ever. After several years and maybe 125k it started filling the overflow tank with soot. Didn't seem to run any different that way. Now I wonder if it always had a leaking head gasket since he first got it in 1985. He traded it for a 2.5L 5sp S10 pickup in 1990. Five years ago I saw a non running 1983 Brougham, same color, on eBay about 50 miles away. I was tempted to check it out and see if it was Dad's old car, but didn't bother. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] You don't see many of these
They did not produce many V6 diesels. I owned a 1982 Bonneville diesel. By 82, GM had worked out their quality issues but by then they had already trashed the diesel name. The later GM diesels still suffered from early IP failure caused by excessive wear during warm up and the fuel filters were still too expensive and plugged up too often. I killed mine at 152000 miles by running it hot. I believe it would have gone 30 miles or further if I had not trashed the engine. Thanks, Tom 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: 12/21/07 10:42 AM Subject: [MBZ] You don't see many of these Ebay item # 320197231065 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1983-Pontiac-6000LE-diesel-4-3L-V6_W0QQit emZ320197231065QQihZ011QQcategoryZ6386QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewI tem I didn't know these ever came with a diesel engine. It's cheap! Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Harrowing and or Hilarious driving stories
By Spring, you and the 300TD will be ready for the race track. lol. Ed 300E On 21/12/2007, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm learning to two-foot. Because the '83 300TD idles too slow when I start it up on a cold morning, I neeed to keep up the revs when braking to keep the car from stalling, until it reaches operating temperature. 1983 300TD On Dec 21, 2007 11:29 AM, E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For road drivers, I think the whole reaction time thing by two footing it is pointless. I don't know anyone that concentrates, all the time, to the point where two footing it would make a difference on the road, in the real world. If you really need that kind of reaction time, you would be better serviced by trying to think ahead more, and a little more distance between you and the other stuff around you on the road. Only time I've two footed it, was not for reaction time, but to help transfer weight a little to the front and increasing contact patch, or, if you have a turbo car with big lag and you're trying to set the front end to turn in, and you want to keep the revs up at the same time. Again, neither of these things have any business on the road, as to use them means you're pushing just way to hard. It's not the reaction time of the feet that catches most ppl out, it's the reaction time of the head that does. You quickly get to a point where you can think way faster than a car can react or do what you want, so best thing, is to try and think way ahead and do your best to see stuff before it happens. These are just my thoughts, but they've allowed me to travel pretty quick most of my driving years and stay out of trouble for the most part. Ed 300E On 21/12/2007, Dwight E. Giles, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IIRC-the evidence I saw years ago was to the contrary and advised against two foot braking. Any source on reaction times? Thanks, Dwight Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 215K miles. 1979 240D- auto -250K + miles (FOR SALE) 1990 300D 2.5t 150K miles Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 10:42 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Harrowing and or Hilarious driving stories I disagree stongly. Your reaction times are much faster using 2 feet. Pete -- Original message -- From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] archer writes: It's only logical that with nearly all cars being automatic nowadays, the brake should be operated by the left foot and the accellerator by the right foot. Trying to both stop and go with one foot is what confuses people who aren't mechanically inclined. Using one foot forces you to RELEASE the throttle when you engage the brake. If you put the brake where the clutch is supposed to be, then people who are accustomed to a manual transmission would be punching the brake. If you can't stop and go with one foot you have no business behind the wheel of a car. -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
Re: [MBZ] rant - was: 123 frontend rebuild
Wow, you ok up there? Luther On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 21:40:08 -0600, Fmiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ** Caution - rant ahead ** What's with abbreviations only for the important words? If you are going to take the time to do all the other stuff you might as well do the LCA bushings too. You might need to find an indy to help with the ball joints, though some report having done them with the autoparts store rental bj presses. I have, but I spoke with Rusty on the phone today and his thoughts were that the U/L control arms and brake track rod can be done withOUT using a (and only THE) spring compressor. So why is it that an abbreviation gets used for the focal point of the sentence? All the other words are fully spelled out, but not the most important one - the core reason for the sentence. Why not: f yu going d all tos do t lower control arm bushings too. or Ih, I sw Rusty otp td his thoughts wtt upper and lower control arms a brake track rod cbd without t spring compressor At least then if I misinterpret the abbreviation, it's for one of the filler words. I can still glean the useful data out of the sentence. But if I can't figure out what U/LCA BTR mean - it's useless. -- end of rant. Philip (I feel better...) -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] You don't see many of these
I have seen the Olds Cutlass Sierra which is the same body in a diesel but not the Pontiac. Its interesting anyway. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 10:39 AM Subject: [MBZ] You don't see many of these Ebay item # 320197231065 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1983-Pontiac-6000LE-diesel-4-3L-V6_W0QQit emZ320197231065QQihZ011QQcategoryZ6386QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewI tem I didn't know these ever came with a diesel engine. It's cheap! Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] completely OT: Kirby vacuum
an actual link would be helpful On Dec 21, 2007 2:15 PM, Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some guy is selling a Kirby vacuum on Columbus CL. Anything special about these? It just looks old to me. -- Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474 614-441-8164 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] completely OT: Kirby vacuum
http://columbus.craigslist.org/hsh/516144584.html On Dec 21, 2007 2:20 PM, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: an actual link would be helpful On Dec 21, 2007 2:15 PM, Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some guy is selling a Kirby vacuum on Columbus CL. Anything special about these? It just looks old to me. -- Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474 614-441-8164 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474 614-441-8164 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] completely OT: Kirby vacuum
Some guy is selling a Kirby vacuum on Columbus CL. Anything special about these? It just looks old to me. -- Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474 614-441-8164 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] completely OT: Kirby vacuum
Kind of like a Mercedes. Breathtakingly expensive if bought new. Well made and last a long time. Heavy and built like a tank. Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Some guy is selling a Kirby vacuum on Columbus CL. Anything special about these? It just looks old to me. -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 96 SL500 225k $6K
I'm going to see this car this afternoon he's a dealer and says its a good runner with no probs other than high miles, these cars if cared for should run past 225K. Any advise on this one? I know they're pricy to fix. http://seattle.craigslist.org/est/car/513300579.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Harrowing and or Hilarious driving stories
archer writes: It's only logical that with nearly all cars being automatic nowadays, the brake should be operated by the left foot and the accellerator by the right foot. Trying to both stop and go with one foot is what confuses people who aren't mechanically inclined. Using one foot forces you to RELEASE the throttle when you engage the brake. If you put the brake where the clutch is supposed to be, then people who are accustomed to a manual transmission would be punching the brake. If you can't stop and go with one foot you have no business behind the wheel of a car. -- (presumably Allen, but not signed) I disagree stongly. Your reaction times are much faster using 2 feet. Pete There have been a tests the prove otherwise - but I suspect that they were with people who were not accustom to driving two-footed. But that reaction time looses value if the driver forgets to release the fuel control pedal. It's not possible to make the task of driving idiot proof!! Nor do I think it is a unalienable right. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] completely OT: Kirby vacuum
In laws had one years back. It was about the only thing that would remove long silky doghair from a golden retriever from shag carpeting. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Allan Streib Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 1:25 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] completely OT: Kirby vacuum Kind of like a Mercedes. Breathtakingly expensive if bought new. Well made and last a long time. Heavy and built like a tank. Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Some guy is selling a Kirby vacuum on Columbus CL. Anything special about these? It just looks old to me. -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] completely OT: Kirby vacuum
They're a bit of a cult item. Just try not to buy one for $3000. There are people who pay full retail for them... In way they are sort of like a W123 diesel: durable, effective, noisy, and heavy. But timeless. D. Sunil Hari wrote: Some guy is selling a Kirby vacuum on Columbus CL. Anything special about these? It just looks old to me. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] completely OT: Kirby vacuum
They're powerful vacs and you can still get parts for them because so many are used by janitorial services and such. Some newer vacs are healthier because they have replaceable HEPA filters. Consumers Reports did a recent article on the various kinds. Gerry -- They're a bit of a cult item. Just try not to buy one for $3000. There are people who pay full retail for them... In way they are sort of like a W123 diesel: durable, effective, noisy, and heavy. But timeless. D. Sunil Hari wrote: Some guy is selling a Kirby vacuum on Columbus CL. Anything special about these? It just looks old to me. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.5/1191 - Release Date: 12/20/2007 2:14 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] completely OT: Kirby vacuum
Very heavy, my Wife would comment worse present I ever gave her. Our present Orack is about 5 pounds of very functioanl power. PeteOn Fri, 21 Dec 2007 14:15:14 -0500, you wrote: Some guy is selling a Kirby vacuum on Columbus CL. Anything special about these? It just looks old to me. -- Regards, Peter T. Arnold 2007 HHR, 2.4L/Auto, LT2, 19Kmi, No problems! 1987 300SDL 286 KMI Now lives with Dave Walton, Cleveland Ohio 1995 F-250 PowerChoke 199Kmi 1954 Metropolitan Convertible, Hanger Queen Wife has a Cruizer, 87 Kmi, as reliable as an Ice Box, the car that is! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT - Kirby vacuum
I agree - much like a Mercedes. Likely a good buy @ $50 if it runs as good as it looks - test drive it. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] completely OT: Kirby vacuum
We have an Oreck too, good vac, very light and easy to push around but they are pretty narrow, it takes longer to cover the room. Bags are expensive. It's lasted almost 10 years without incident so far; the power cord is starting to wear at the strain relief I need to attend to that... Also on the Oreck there are NO hose attchments -- it's an upright floor vac, and that's it. The little handheld that they sometimes include free is junk. Allan Peter T. Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Very heavy, my Wife would comment worse present I ever gave her. Our present Orack is about 5 pounds of very functioanl power. PeteOn Fri, 21 Dec 2007 14:15:14 -0500, you wrote: Some guy is selling a Kirby vacuum on Columbus CL. Anything special about these? It just looks old to me. -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cuttlefish
I have seen the Olds Cutlass Sierra which is the same body in a diesel but not the Pontiac. Its interesting anyway. It's Ciera. And a Ciera was featured in Fargo. Drab little front-drive four cylinder 4-door. RLE ** See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop000304) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Harrowing and or Hilarious driving stories
Fmiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: -- (presumably Allen, but not signed) I don't always type my name at the end of a message because I use my real, full name in my email address. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Opinions pls on 300E
Hi all, Considering this Benz for my kids here in Hawaii.. and my use while I'm here. Opinions and stuff to look for.. Please http://honolulu.craigslist.org/oah/car/515626191.html Thanks, Chuck ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] completely OT: Kirby vacuum
I can't help but wonder how good the Dysons are, not based on their marketing, but on the user claims. MacDan --- Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We have an Oreck too, good vac, very light and easy to push around but they are pretty narrow, it takes longer to cover the room. Bags are expensive. It's lasted almost 10 years without incident so far; the power cord is starting to wear at the strain relief I need to attend to that... Also on the Oreck there are NO hose attchments -- it's an upright floor vac, and that's it. The little handheld that they sometimes include free is junk. Allan Peter T. Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Very heavy, my Wife would comment worse present I ever gave her. Our present Orack is about 5 pounds of very functioanl power. PeteOn Fri, 21 Dec 2007 14:15:14 -0500, you wrote: Some guy is selling a Kirby vacuum on Columbus CL. Anything special about these? It just looks old to me. -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] FIOS Digital TV and Set Top Boxes
I am seriously considering flipping over to Verizon's FIOS service, since it's run up to my house and more or less ready to go. However, the spouse is a TV freak (I would just as well not have one in the house) and as a result, we've got analog TVs all over the house. Since we're currently on analog cable, it's not an issue - but - if we went to fiber, I would have to buy (lease) set top boxes for every stinkin' TV in the house, and I'm just talking about the very basic ones that would just allow tuning and nothing more. As with cable boxes of the past, you used to be able to buy aftermarket ones cheap. I'm wondering if this is the case with fiber as well, as I don't want to pay $3.99/month for a bunch of tuners. MacDan Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300TD man-tran has a harsh growl in neutral
If it goes AWAY (possibly after a couple of seconds' delay) when you put your foot ON the clutch and comes BACK when you release OFF the pedal, my guess is a bad input shaft bearing. This is the opposite symptom of a release/throwout bearing failure, which would be audible when your foot is ON the clutch but usually goes away when you are OFF. Ditto for a pilot bushing, which would be noisy only when the clutch pedal is depressed. Thanks David (and Gerry). I had the throwout bearing done at the beginning of the year, and the symptoms are not the same here. More clues... It's definiitely in the gearbox. I had someone else mess about with the clutch while I listened, and the noises (horrible) are gearbox-related. Also, when I move the gear stick in the gate towards first or second (clutch out), the noises become more audible. Meantime, the wagon's off the road until the New Year when my fixer can take a look. We'll drain the fluids first and look for 'bits'. And we'll use the old Hilux to travel on our Christmas break. I've already made the appointment with the chiropractor for when we return. Euan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Opinions pls on 300E
I've had an '88 now for about 6 months. I'd say, pull a few plugs and make sure they look nice, without any funny signs. Check for nice gear changes, both around town and when you put your boot in it. Make sure it tracks as it should around corners. I had the rear end rebuilt on mine as soon as I got it. Not a big deal, but some labour getting to all the bits. Check for rust around the jack points. Have a look at the fluids, make sure they are as they should be. I have 337,000 kms on mine, and it still looks and drives great. If you can get some records to back up the mileage, that would be nice too. Good luck, I think you'll enjoy it. Ed 300E On 21/12/2007, Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, Considering this Benz for my kids here in Hawaii.. and my use while I'm here. Opinions and stuff to look for.. Please http://honolulu.craigslist.org/oah/car/515626191.html Thanks, Chuck ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 96 SL500 225k $6K
Who is the dealer? The photos are driveway not dealer lot, so I am wary of this sort of deal. The price is way too low for a really working car of that vintage, so I expect there is a huge ticking bomb in the engine. SL should hold better value than $6k. Even our e300d is valued over 10k. clay On 21 Dec 2007, at 11:45, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm going to see this car this afternoon he's a dealer and says its a good runner with no probs other than high miles, these cars if cared for should run past 225K. Any advise on this one? I know they're pricy to fix. http://seattle.craigslist.org/est/car/513300579.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I'm In Love was Re: Harrowing and or Hilarious drivingstories
Don't be so sure, this video was put together as a demo and to show what can be done with the old 911 platform. This guy is very fast. Gotta remember, these aren't race conditions where they're going for the fastest lap. When once asked why he drove like that, as it is clearly not the fastest way around a track, his reply was, You're not trying to make a baby every time you have sex, are you? :-) Ed 300E On 21/12/2007, Rick Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think we need to hook Sabina up for a date with this guy, Stefan (sp), driving my all time fave car. :-) Seems a match made in heaven. lol http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6Thomd4BQg Ed 300E The car is definitely quick and fast, but the dude driving it is not particularly smooth or consistent. Sabina in the same car would've lapped him in the 8 and a half minutes it took him to get around the track. Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Opinions pls on 300E
I have a 93 with twice the mileage and NO WAY would I consider under 6 for it. Very responsive vehicles in acceleration, braking and handling. A real fun car to drive over all. Dave H... -- From: Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 4:28 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Opinions pls on 300E Hi all, Considering this Benz for my kids here in Hawaii.. and my use while I'm here. Opinions and stuff to look for.. Please http://honolulu.craigslist.org/oah/car/515626191.html Thanks, Chuck ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Opinions pls on 300E
Although this article refers to the diesel, I am sure there are some things that apply to gas powered 124's also. http://articles.mbz.org/buying/checklists/124/ Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT - Original Message - From: Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 3:28 PM Subject: [MBZ] Opinions pls on 300E Hi all, Considering this Benz for my kids here in Hawaii.. and my use while I'm here. Opinions and stuff to look for.. Please http://honolulu.craigslist.org/oah/car/515626191.html Thanks, Chuck ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Harrowing and or Hilarious driving stories
the brake should be operated by the left foot and the accellerator by the right foot. This is how my Mom drives since she learned to drive in a manny tranny car. She says it's easier that way since each foot has something to do. She's never confused the brakes with the accelerator. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300sD 266Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Harrowing and or Hilarious driving stories
Kevin Kraly wrote: This is how my Mom drives since she learned to drive in a manny tranny car. She says it's easier that way since each foot has something to do. I'm not quite sure how that would work. At least not the way I drive a stick shift. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 96 SL500 225k $6K
Dealer listing doesn't necessarily mean an MB dealer - could be someone running a used car business from his driveway via Craig's List. Agreed - it's too low, so either a fire sale, and already gone, or something's WRONG. On Dec 21, 2007 4:15 PM, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Who is the dealer? The photos are driveway not dealer lot, so I am wary of this sort of deal. The price is way too low for a really working car of that vintage, so I expect there is a huge ticking bomb in the engine. SL should hold better value than $6k. Even our e300d is valued over 10k. clay -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] completely OT: Kirby vacuum
Some newer vacs are healthier because they have replaceable HEPA filters. I've heard how the Dyson vacuums clean up pet hair quite well, and they also don't spew the smelly exhaust out into the room as you're vacuuming! When we were living in an apartment for a few months between houses this summer, the pet hair in such close quarters with no air circulation was too much for Wifey, so we decided to get a Dyson. It did do a good job with the pet hair, the hepa filtered exhaust was wonderful, and it was much easier to maneuver. Will it last 10-15-20 years? I guess time will tell. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300sD 266Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] FW: THE MOOSE..............
http://www.snopes.com/photos/animals/poormoose.asp -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) BioBeast '82 300CD (170 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine HAVE YOU SEEN MY MOOSE? WITHOUT THE PICTURE, THIS WOULD BE HARD TO BELIEVE. UNBELIEVABLE! READ UNDER THE PICTURE... Pogo Moose Incident - Fairbanks , Alaska They were laying new power cables which were strung on the ground for miles. The moose are rutting right now and very agitated. He was thrashing around and got his antlers stuck in the cables. When the men (miles away) began pulling the lines up with their big equipment, the moose went up with them. They noticed excess tension in the lines and went searching for the problem. He was still alive when they lowered him to the ground. He was a huge 60 inch bull and slightly peeved! -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: ATT001071.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 47242 bytes Desc: ATT001071.jpg Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20071220/a6baf47b/attachment.jpg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] copper thieves
Bill wrote: And buy something nice for one of your MB's. How heavy is four-ought? If it's manageable, I'd be tempted to make myself a new set of welding cables instead of selling it. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] copper thieves
Not a bad idea there. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 11:34 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] copper thieves Timothy Robinson wrote: Well, not long ago we caught a guy helping himself to a friend's sound system in a parking lot. We tackled the guy and held him while calling the police (informing them that we were holding the guy). An hour and half and second call later... Next time, when you make the second call, tell them there's no hurry, you had to shoot him and he's deceased. You'll have six cops in five minutes. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] FW: THE MOOSE..............
This was posted here a couple of weeks ago --- On Dec 20, 2007 2:20 AM, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.snopes.com/photos/animals/poormoose.asp -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Harrowing and or Hilarious driving stories
You know what? Actually I am a two-footed driver. I have been advised against it, and I understand the advisements, but I haven't had a problem yet. I use two feet in the interest of reaction time. If my foot is hovering over the brake pedal in hairy situations, I can slow the vehicle all the faster. And owing to my gender, I will not mix up my limbs (take that, Raymond) (I am winking). Also, occasionally - not too often - it is helpful to hold some pressure on the brake while applying some to the throttle, thus bringing up your engine to the ready but allowing for an abort. Brian On Dec 21, 2007 7:41 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I disagree stongly. Your reaction times are much faster using 2 feet. Pete -- Original message -- From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] archer writes: It's only logical that with nearly all cars being automatic nowadays, the brake should be operated by the left foot and the accellerator by the right foot. Trying to both stop and go with one foot is what confuses people who aren't mechanically inclined. Using one foot forces you to RELEASE the throttle when you engage the brake. If you put the brake where the clutch is supposed to be, then people who are accustomed to a manual transmission would be punching the brake. If you can't stop and go with one foot you have no business behind the wheel of a car. -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Toyota
As far as I know, all current fuel injected gas cars have a pressurized fuel line (maybe 20 psi) from the tank to the fuel injector rail. There is an impact switch that's supposed to shut down the in-tank fuel pump in case of a collision. But if this doesn't work, a break in the fuel line could produce a prolonged spray of atomized gasoline. I don't know if Corolla is any worse than any other small car in this regard. But this must be rare or we'd see a lot more flaming cars. The thing I find interesting is that folks think hydrocarbon refrigerants are too dangerous for cars while this kind of potential problem with gas seems to be OK. My new LPG fireplace was defective and literally exploded when the technician first cane to start it up. I was literally inside the fireball (I saw orange in all directions) but injuries were limited to lost hair and some second degree burns from a flimsy plastic drop cloth, which instantly liquefied and was carried by the blast. So the bottom line of my experience is that propane doesn't seem all that dangerous compared to gasoline. Scott Ritchey -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Loren Faeth Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 10:17 To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Toyota I would not buy a corolla for my kid, ever! The girl who was burned so badly that it took over a week to identfy her had a minor accident in a new toyota, Apparently the fuel pump kept pumping gasoline into what should have been a minor fire in the engine compartment, turning the tin can into an oven. I posted about this about a year ago. The girl was a friend of my daughter's. 4 years ago my daughter was t-boned by an idiot. She was driving her 380SL and walked away from a more serious accident. At 07:58 PM 12/20/2007, you wrote: The Corolla is just the thing for a girl's first car and there are plenty of them on the used market. Of course, when one buys with price as the only factor, sacrifices must be made. Do you reacll the old quote about knowing the price of everything and the value of nothing? RLE Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] completely OT: Kirby vacuum
I've always compared our Kirbies (one for upstairs and one for downstairs) to a Mercedes, especially the HEAVY part! I'm glad that I convinced Wifey not to throw away her then broken mid 80's Heritage II legend. The new house has central vac, so I sold the Kirbies. $50 is a pretty good price for that one on CL. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300sD 266Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] completely OT: Kirby vacuum
I saw the Dyson's on TV here, the day before they hit the shelves. Ran to the store to get one. Seemed enough at almost $600 at the time, but I'm a clean freak, so hey, why not. Then saw it was made in China, I turned around and walked out. Ed 300E On 21/12/2007, Kevin Kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some newer vacs are healthier because they have replaceable HEPA filters. I've heard how the Dyson vacuums clean up pet hair quite well, and they also don't spew the smelly exhaust out into the room as you're vacuuming! When we were living in an apartment for a few months between houses this summer, the pet hair in such close quarters with no air circulation was too much for Wifey, so we decided to get a Dyson. It did do a good job with the pet hair, the hepa filtered exhaust was wonderful, and it was much easier to maneuver. Will it last 10-15-20 years? I guess time will tell. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300sD 266Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] copper thieves / dumb thieves in general
We had a couple of kids going through the lots [at Butler University when I worked there] to siphon gas. When the campus security came by one of them decided to act cool, so he dropped the hose he was using and lit a cigarette. IIRC he burned up both cars. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Timothy Robinson Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 12:09 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] copper thieves I remember in the 70s, gasoline shortage, the fuel lines... There were some kids who were stealing gas. The MOD was they would punch a hole in a gas tank and place a container underneath. When the container was filled, of course the remaining full spilled on the ground. They would then return to get the can of fuel. The Baptist church had a fleet of buses for their Children's Church Sunday routes. They'd been hit a few times. Some of the men in the church decided to have a stake-out. There was something ironic about a dozen men armed with shotguns and rifles keeping watch out of windows overlooking the bus parking lot. Not sure if they apprehended anyone but it all seemed very Christian. From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 22:48:53 -0600 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] copper thieves A couple weeks ago a guy south of Houston popped a couple of sh**heads who had just burgled his neighbors' home (they were gone), carrying the loot, and coming into his yard. One had been deported already for drug offenses and came back, the other was another multiply-convicted felon, both from Brazil or somewhere, upstanding guest workers.. It comes out in the investigation that there was a plain clothes cop sitting on the street watching this all go down, having arrived when the guy called 911, but for some reason did not intervene. The neighbor remained on the 911 call while dealing with the perps, all on tape. Most observers (except for a local loudmouth named Quannell X of the New Black Panther Party and his posse) feel the neighbor did everyone a big favor, grand jury will rule in a couple weeks if he should be charged. (In Texas the new law seems to favor the neighbor, we will see.) I doubt any of this will deter the dumbass copper thieves (rampant around here, have hit a lot of churches lately) as they are too stupid to think about their occupational hazards. Just tonight on the news a scrap yard owner was arrested for dealing a bunch of stolen brass, still packaged. Duh. --R Tom Hargrave wrote: Most don't understand the function of our police force. Their job is to follow up after the crime, not prevent the crime. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Toyota
Some of the CIS cars have much higher fuel pressure, near 100 PSI in the line. Gas is very stable, but once atomized, or mixed with enough oxygen, it goes up easy, but pretty anything will do the same. Dust in a silo is a good example. Even some metal shaving will burn pretty nice. Ed 300E On 21/12/2007, Scott Ritchey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As far as I know, all current fuel injected gas cars have a pressurized fuel line (maybe 20 psi) from the tank to the fuel injector rail. There is an impact switch that's supposed to shut down the in-tank fuel pump in case of a collision. But if this doesn't work, a break in the fuel line could produce a prolonged spray of atomized gasoline. I don't know if Corolla is any worse than any other small car in this regard. But this must be rare or we'd see a lot more flaming cars. The thing I find interesting is that folks think hydrocarbon refrigerants are too dangerous for cars while this kind of potential problem with gas seems to be OK. My new LPG fireplace was defective and literally exploded when the technician first cane to start it up. I was literally inside the fireball (I saw orange in all directions) but injuries were limited to lost hair and some second degree burns from a flimsy plastic drop cloth, which instantly liquefied and was carried by the blast. So the bottom line of my experience is that propane doesn't seem all that dangerous compared to gasoline. Scott Ritchey -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Loren Faeth Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 10:17 To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Toyota I would not buy a corolla for my kid, ever! The girl who was burned so badly that it took over a week to identfy her had a minor accident in a new toyota, Apparently the fuel pump kept pumping gasoline into what should have been a minor fire in the engine compartment, turning the tin can into an oven. I posted about this about a year ago. The girl was a friend of my daughter's. 4 years ago my daughter was t-boned by an idiot. She was driving her 380SL and walked away from a more serious accident. At 07:58 PM 12/20/2007, you wrote: The Corolla is just the thing for a girl's first car and there are plenty of them on the used market. Of course, when one buys with price as the only factor, sacrifices must be made. Do you reacll the old quote about knowing the price of everything and the value of nothing? RLE Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] copper thieves
And buy something nice for one of your MB's. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Luther Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 12:39 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] copper thieves I've got about 50-60 feet of that I pulled from a construction dumpster. I'm thinking that I should strip the insulation and take it to the local recycler for some 's. Luther, copper thief? On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 12:31:56 -0600, Bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Had breakfast with my pastor last week; thought he looked a bit like someone who had a bad day or so. Turns out thieves destroyed 6 AC units from the church the morning before - including three we just had replaced for about $15k. $33k damage this time [$5k deductable]. From talking to the police it seems that is going on a lot around here. One church under construction in our area had 12 units demolished, replaced them, and lost the 12 again 2 days later. We have been trying to come up with good ways to make theft harder, but that is lots of $$ also. I'm thinking a large rattlesnake in each unit might do the trick. A couple of guys with a smoke wrench or a decent cutter can get into about anything. Too bad I don't have any use for 6 compressors . Is that sort of thing going on in the rest of the country also? My guess is that the thieves made @$600 on the scrap copper for all the damage they caused. Bummer. BillR Jacksonville FL 1981 300SD 297k miles, and happy it is not made of copper. -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] copper thieves
Or do what a friend of mine did when the radio was stolen out of his Toyota Supra. Epoxy a few razor blades in staryegic locations. The next time he was broken into the thieves left his radio and a blood sample. There was no third time. Thanks, Tom 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: Bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: 12/21/07 5:58 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] copper thieves Not a bad idea there. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 11:34 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] copper thieves Timothy Robinson wrote: Well, not long ago we caught a guy helping himself to a friend's sound system in a parking lot. We tackled the guy and held him while calling the police (informing them that we were holding the guy). An hour and half and second call later... Next time, when you make the second call, tell them there's no hurry, you had to shoot him and he's deceased. You'll have six cops in five minutes. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] copper thieves
Tom Hargrave wrote: Or do what a friend of mine did when the radio was stolen out of his Toyota Supra. Epoxy a few razor blades in staryegic locations. The next time he was broken into the thieves left his radio and a blood sample. There was no third time. Sounds like thief #1 and thief #2 were the same guy. There was a stolen hood star thread about 4-5 years back, in which we concluded that injuring or inducing pain in the thief was an invitation for retaliatory vandalism. Maybe honing the bottom edge of the hood ornament to a knife edge isn't such a bad idea after all. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Harrowing and or Hilarious driving stories
Hi, I was taught to use 1 right foot and heel and toe the brake and throttle. You can get no car to overcome the brakes with the engine. Ed in warm Chicago 40F Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: archer writes: It's only logical that with nearly all cars being automatic nowadays, the brake should be operated by the left foot and the accellerator by the right foot. Trying to both stop and go with one foot is what confuses people who aren't mechanically inclined. Using one foot forces you to RELEASE the throttle when you engage the brake. If you put the brake where the clutch is supposed to be, then people who are accustomed to a manual transmission would be punching the brake. If you can't stop and go with one foot you have no business behind the wheel of a car. -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Harrowing and or Hilarious driving stories
It seems than at Fri, 21 Dec 2007 16:16:05 -0500, Allan wrote: Fmiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: -- (presumably Allen, but not signed) I don't always type my name at the end of a message because I use my real, full name in my email address. I'm not a picky as Marshall was. I don't mind replying to unsigned posts. *smile* I was just being cautious about attributing a post to you if it wasn't you that said it. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] '90 420 SEL
A friend of the family's 420SEL lost brakelights and the dash (speedo/temp/oil etc) is inop. The only things that work in the dash are the clock and the economy gauge. What do I need to look at and check? I asked about the fuses, and they are aluminum..that will be the first check. If that isn't it, what is next? TIA all. -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '90 420 SEL
It's the fuse, unless the wire came off the fuse holder underneath. Peter On Dec 21, 2007, at 7:49 PM, Luther wrote: A friend of the family's 420SEL lost brakelights and the dash (speedo/temp/oil etc) is inop. The only things that work in the dash are the clock and the economy gauge. What do I need to look at and check? I asked about the fuses, and they are aluminum..that will be the first check. If that isn't it, what is next? TIA all. -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 96 SL500 225k $6K
I was not thinking it was MB stealer, but I know most of the lots that sell benz, and the driveway is not one of the known dealers I deal with. From the wet weather going on here, I am guessing it was underwater and this is the most he will get for it before it rusts up. clay On 21 Dec 2007, at 15:46, OK Don wrote: Dealer listing doesn't necessarily mean an MB dealer - could be someone running a used car business from his driveway via Craig's List. Agreed - it's too low, so either a fire sale, and already gone, or something's WRONG. On Dec 21, 2007 4:15 PM, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Who is the dealer? The photos are driveway not dealer lot, so I am wary of this sort of deal. The price is way too low for a really working car of that vintage, so I expect there is a huge ticking bomb in the engine. SL should hold better value than $6k. Even our e300d is valued over 10k. clay -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Kirby vacuum
Kirbys are a rite of passage in Illinoisyou graduate high school, get married, buy a Kirby, have a kid. The Kirby I bought in 1980 is still working wellbut I like the Dyson I bought much, much better. Bob R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wilton strickland Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 1:36 PM To: mercedes Subject: [MBZ] OT - Kirby vacuum I agree - much like a Mercedes. Likely a good buy @ $50 if it runs as good as it looks - test drive it. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '90 420 SEL
Don't just *check* the fuses - they are 18 years old and *need* to be replaced (*Please*) - that 10cent part has given its service - and then some. Most likely there is a hairline crack in one of them - turning the fuse may not make the fault evident -- BTDT - only found it when spuse hit the brake as I watched the fuses - the offending fuse arced! Most likely the brake lights are not working either. Good luck - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 8:49 PM Subject: [MBZ] '90 420 SEL A friend of the family's 420SEL lost brakelights and the dash (speedo/temp/oil etc) is inop. The only things that work in the dash are the clock and the economy gauge. What do I need to look at and check? I asked about the fuses, and they are aluminum..that will be the first check. If that isn't it, what is next? TIA all. -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.5/1191 - Release Date: 12/20/2007 2:14 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '90 420 SEL
The only things that work in the dash are the clock and the economy gauge. What do I need to look at and check? Fuses. FYI, the economy gauge is a mechanical vacuum gauge. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Sabine driving the Ring Taxi
www.youtube.com/watch?v-w6Thomd4BQg Sabine at the wheel http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=39023 ___ Nurburgring record/Porsche 956 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAxmOvwRZlINR=1 ** See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop000304) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '90 420 SEL
You MUST replace ALL the FUSES. On Dec 21, 2007 8:44 PM, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The only things that work in the dash are the clock and the economy gauge. What do I need to look at and check? Fuses. FYI, the economy gauge is a mechanical vacuum gauge. -- Jim -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Harrowing and or Hilarious driving stories
Zoltan Finks wrote: Also, occasionally - not too often - it is helpful to hold some pressure on the brake while applying some to the throttle, thus bringing up your engine to the ready but allowing for an abort. Hopefully not too often, as you risk overheating the fluid in the torque convertor. In fact, transmission job 27-380 advises max 5 seconds to avoid overheating the transmission fluid. Granted, that's 5 secs at the torque convertor stall speed (requiring a fairly heavy accelerator position), but it's generally not a good idea. If you're doing this to build turbo boost before letting go of the brake, you're probably approaching the TC stall speed. D. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Manual 617 conversion questions
I've been thinking more about my off-hand remark when we were talking about home generators, that I should pull the 616 from the 240D (manual tranny) and use it to spin a gen head, and put a 617 in the 240D. It's been said that MB doesn't put a manual tranny behind a turbo Diesel due to the need to get the RPMs high enough to generate turbo boost, that's hard to do with solid gear ratios. However, if you did use a turbo 617, wouldn't it start from a stop the same as a non-turbo engine, then benefit from the increased torque/HP? If one was to undertake this conversion, and given a suitable donor car, wouldn't the drive shaft be the only custom modified part? -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Manual 617 conversion questions
However, if you did use a turbo 617, wouldn't it start from a stop the same as a non-turbo engine, then benefit from the increased torque/HP? Yes, but it would fall off boost at each shift. Also, emissions are very poor at those times, reputedly another reason they didn't ever make turbo stickshift models. If one was to undertake this conversion, and given a suitable donor car, wouldn't the drive shaft be the only custom modified part? Probably. And maybe not even that. The engine 'grows' towards the front, usually. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Manual 617 conversion questions
If you drove it like you do a 240D (floored, and shift at red line), it wouldn't drop off the boost curve, and would be even MORE fun :-). There is more space between the rear of the 616 block and the firewall than there is with a 617, so I think they balanced the block on the mounts, or at least kept the weight distribution similar. I'm guessing that the manual tranny is shorter than an auto, so I don't know how it would work out. Hasn't someone on the list done this already? On Dec 21, 2007 9:35 PM, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, if you did use a turbo 617, wouldn't it start from a stop the same as a non-turbo engine, then benefit from the increased torque/HP? Yes, but it would fall off boost at each shift. Also, emissions are very poor at those times, reputedly another reason they didn't ever make turbo stickshift models. If one was to undertake this conversion, and given a suitable donor car, wouldn't the drive shaft be the only custom modified part? Probably. And maybe not even that. The engine 'grows' towards the front, usually. -- Jim -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Toyota
As far as I know, all current fuel injected gas cars have a pressurized fuel line (maybe 20 psi) from the tank to the fuel injector rail. There is an impact switch that's supposed to shut down the in-tank fuel pump in case of a collision. But if this doesn't work, a break in the fuel line could produce a prolonged spray of atomized gasoline. An Olds Silhouette I worked on had an extra set of contacts in the oil sender for the fuel pump relay. The computer pulled the relay in for 2 seconds during starting, then if there was no oil pressure the relay would drop out. Hence, if the engine dies or if the oil pressure drops, fuel delivery ceases. Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] EPC sources
The copy of the EPC that I was using has decided that it can't find the database anymore, for no apparent reason. I also can't find the CD I installed it from. So, I did search on eBay for it, and came up with these tow likely suspects. Has anyone done business with either of these? Do they look reputable? http://tinyurl.com/32thuc http://tinyurl.com/2kz8ev -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Harrowing and/OT: now left foot brakers
In a message dated 12/21/2007 8:21:53 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Using one foot forces you to RELEASE the throttle when you engage the brake. If you put the brake where the clutch is supposed to be, then people who are accustomed to a manual transmission would be punching the brake. If you can't stop and go with one foot you have no business behind the wheel of a car. Thank you strieb!I hate the idea of left foot braking with a passion! Consider a dozen cars moving down the freeway at about the same speed. The car showing it's brake lights, for no good reason, is probably driven by a left foot braker. They sneeze, the brakes come on, the phone rings, the brakes come on, they change lanes, the brakes come on, they tailgate closer than anyone else, the brakes come on! Brake lights are necessary to warn of an impending speed change. Resting your left foot on the brake pedal invariably results in an excess display of brake lights, mesmerizing the other drivers, maybe, lulling them into complacency, I hope not, but certainly annoying. Riding the brake pedal with your left foot MAY improve your reaction time, but I bet left foot braking is NOT safer in the overall street driving scheme of things! The only group interested in promoting left foot braking is the brake repair shops, who will see a left foot braker's vehicle as core business! End Rant! Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 264 K miles 98 ML 320, 152 K miles **See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop000304) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] EPC sources
Try this, it's free for a year. https://epc.startekinfo.com/epc/home.jsp# John On 12/21/07, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The copy of the EPC that I was using has decided that it can't find the database anymore, for no apparent reason. I also can't find the CD I installed it from. So, I did search on eBay for it, and came up with these tow likely suspects. Has anyone done business with either of these? Do they look reputable? http://tinyurl.com/32thuc http://tinyurl.com/2kz8ev -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Harrowing and or Hilarious driving stories
I was raised being told no left foot riding the brake! It was customary to see tourists driving through the mountains obviously left foot brakers. I would hear my grandfather or father swear at them. My dad always slid his foot from brake to accelerator. I can remember the sound of the pedal being released and the fact the right of the pedal cover would always wear. Dad was great on a manual but couldn't seem to drive an automatic work a hoot. I also have this memory of aunts driving in high heels, left foot on the big wide Sure Trac power brake pedal, heels puncturing the a little hole in the carpet mat... So... here I was ready to tell how I was raised that driving with left on brake was a sissy thing... yet today I had to run out suddenly and I jumped in the '84 300D. It need service and valve adjustment. Cold, it was running a little rough but I was in a hurry. I found myself with both feet, left on brake at stops while giving a little accelerator to smooth out the idle. Most of the time I'm a firm believer in right on brake. I feel can control better. When I first started driving my job was to chauffeur the great grandparents around, to doctors' appointments, etc. I was taught to anticipate stops, how to slow the car but let off the brake and reapply at a complete stop to keep the car level. I think the only time that it was permissible to use the left foot on the brake was sometimes in snow to maintain traction while accelerating. Well, there was that summer that my right leg was in a cast that I drove with it extended over into the passenger seat. From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 15:56:04 -0800 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Harrowing and or Hilarious driving stories You know what? Actually I am a two-footed driver. I have been advised against it, and I understand the advisements, but I haven't had a problem yet. I use two feet in the interest of reaction time. If my foot is hovering over the brake pedal in hairy situations, I can slow the vehicle all the faster. And owing to my gender, I will not mix up my limbs (take that, Raymond) (I am winking). Also, occasionally - not too often - it is helpful to hold some pressure on the brake while applying some to the throttle, thus bringing up your engine to the ready but allowing for an abort. Brian On Dec 21, 2007 7:41 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I disagree stongly. Your reaction times are much faster using 2 feet. Pete -- Original message -- From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] archer writes: It's only logical that with nearly all cars being automatic nowadays, the brake should be operated by the left foot and the accellerator by the right foot. Trying to both stop and go with one foot is what confuses people who aren't mechanically inclined. Using one foot forces you to RELEASE the throttle when you engage the brake. If you put the brake where the clutch is supposed to be, then people who are accustomed to a manual transmission would be punching the brake. If you can't stop and go with one foot you have no business behind the wheel of a car. -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Harrowing and/OT: now left foot brakers
I hate the idea of left foot braking with a passion Hey Jim. Does this mean we can't get together for lunch sometime. 'Cuz I regularly left foot brake And on occasion am trying to learn heel and toe braking technique on the 5 spd 16V Be back in Phoenix mid January.. Will give you a call then.. Chuck End Rant! Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 264 K miles 98 ML 320, 152 K miles **See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop000304) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Manual 617 conversion questions
It seems than at Fri, 21 Dec 2007 21:27:15 -0600, OK wrote: I've been thinking more about my off-hand remark when we were talking about home generators, that I should pull the 616 from the 240D (manual tranny) and use it to spin a gen head, and put a 617 in the 240D. It's been said that MB doesn't put a manual tranny behind a turbo Diesel due to the need to get the RPMs high enough to generate turbo boost, that's hard to do with solid gear ratios. However, if you did use a turbo 617, wouldn't it start from a stop the same as a non-turbo engine, then benefit from the increased torque/HP? Yup. The turbo boost would drop off at each shift, so if your point is to make the car faster, it probably won't work. But if you - like me - just would rather have a clutch and a shift lever, then go for it! If one was to undertake this conversion, and given a suitable donor car, wouldn't the drive shaft be the only custom modified part? The flywheel is the tough part. Since the OM617 is _not_ internally balanced and the OM616 _is_, the right way to do the job is to have non-balanced flywheel that compensates for the engine imbalance. Mathieu J. Cama and Craig McCluskey have both done it. I think there were others too. Maybe they can chime in with the real answer. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] completely OT: Kirby vacuum
Still an Electrolux guy here. I have a 1976 model upstairs and a 1984 model downstairs. Still have my grandparents' '50s model which is a chrome thing on skids. It came with turbo/air powered buffing attachments for the paste wax we used on the hardwood floors. Honestly, for the price of replacing with a new I'd just put a central unit in which exhausts to the outside. Then I could vacume the cat without scaring it. From: E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 18:57:35 -0500 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] completely OT: Kirby vacuum I saw the Dyson's on TV here, the day before they hit the shelves. Ran to the store to get one. Seemed enough at almost $600 at the time, but I'm a clean freak, so hey, why not. Then saw it was made in China, I turned around and walked out. Ed 300E On 21/12/2007, Kevin Kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some newer vacs are healthier because they have replaceable HEPA filters. I've heard how the Dyson vacuums clean up pet hair quite well, and they also don't spew the smelly exhaust out into the room as you're vacuuming! When we were living in an apartment for a few months between houses this summer, the pet hair in such close quarters with no air circulation was too much for Wifey, so we decided to get a Dyson. It did do a good job with the pet hair, the hepa filtered exhaust was wonderful, and it was much easier to maneuver. Will it last 10-15-20 years? I guess time will tell. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300sD 266Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] completely OT: Kirby vacuum
I have an old Electrolux too, from the early 60's. Thing is built like an old Benz. lol. I have a box of all kinds of old attachments for it, including one to vacuum the dog. It's semi-retired now and used to vacuum the cars. Ed 300E On 22/12/2007, Timothy Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Still an Electrolux guy here. I have a 1976 model upstairs and a 1984 model downstairs. Still have my grandparents' '50s model which is a chrome thing on skids. It came with turbo/air powered buffing attachments for the paste wax we used on the hardwood floors. Honestly, for the price of replacing with a new I'd just put a central unit in which exhausts to the outside. Then I could vacume the cat without scaring it. From: E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 18:57:35 -0500 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] completely OT: Kirby vacuum I saw the Dyson's on TV here, the day before they hit the shelves. Ran to the store to get one. Seemed enough at almost $600 at the time, but I'm a clean freak, so hey, why not. Then saw it was made in China, I turned around and walked out. Ed 300E On 21/12/2007, Kevin Kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some newer vacs are healthier because they have replaceable HEPA filters. I've heard how the Dyson vacuums clean up pet hair quite well, and they also don't spew the smelly exhaust out into the room as you're vacuuming! When we were living in an apartment for a few months between houses this summer, the pet hair in such close quarters with no air circulation was too much for Wifey, so we decided to get a Dyson. It did do a good job with the pet hair, the hepa filtered exhaust was wonderful, and it was much easier to maneuver. Will it last 10-15-20 years? I guess time will tell. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300sD 266Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Harrowing and/OT: now left foot brakers
Chuck, Once you get heel and toe down, you'll wonder how you ever drove a stick without using it. Go into a corner and get it all just right, and it gives a smile no paddle shift system ever will. If you want to be one with your car, and get the most out of it, heel and toe. :-) Ed 300E On 22/12/2007, Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hate the idea of left foot braking with a passion Hey Jim. Does this mean we can't get together for lunch sometime. 'Cuz I regularly left foot brake And on occasion am trying to learn heel and toe braking technique on the 5 spd 16V Be back in Phoenix mid January.. Will give you a call then.. Chuck End Rant! Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 264 K miles 98 ML 320, 152 K miles **See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop000304) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Harrowing and/OT: now left foot brakers
When I picked up one of the 300Ds last summer an uncle rode along bringing the car in. (He's an idiot!) He wanted much to drive so about 60 miles out I allowed him. I-26 is a fairly steep ascent returning to Asheville. I glanced over and noticed the temp gauge climbing. I hadn't been paying close attention. The uncle is one of the left foot brake types and was driving just so. Unfortunately he actually rests his foot on the brake and forgets that he's applying pressure. No wonder his always complains of sciatica, especially after driving distances. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2007 00:18:09 EST To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Harrowing and/OT: now left foot brakers In a message dated 12/21/2007 8:21:53 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Using one foot forces you to RELEASE the throttle when you engage the brake. If you put the brake where the clutch is supposed to be, then people who are accustomed to a manual transmission would be punching the brake. If you can't stop and go with one foot you have no business behind the wheel of a car. Thank you strieb!I hate the idea of left foot braking with a passion! Consider a dozen cars moving down the freeway at about the same speed. The car showing it's brake lights, for no good reason, is probably driven by a left foot braker. They sneeze, the brakes come on, the phone rings, the brakes come on, they change lanes, the brakes come on, they tailgate closer than anyone else, the brakes come on! Brake lights are necessary to warn of an impending speed change. Resting your left foot on the brake pedal invariably results in an excess display of brake lights, mesmerizing the other drivers, maybe, lulling them into complacency, I hope not, but certainly annoying. Riding the brake pedal with your left foot MAY improve your reaction time, but I bet left foot braking is NOT safer in the overall street driving scheme of things! The only group interested in promoting left foot braking is the brake repair shops, who will see a left foot braker's vehicle as core business! End Rant! Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 264 K miles 98 ML 320, 152 K miles **See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop000304) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Toyota
An Olds Silhouette I worked on had an extra set of contacts in the oil sender for the fuel pump relay And of course the fuel pump relay on our middle-aged MB's is responsible for watching the tach signal. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] completely OT: Kirby vacuum
You've just gotta love 'em! I'd probably have a Kirby for carpet sweeping but I'm just sold on those old cannister types. Though I like the new Dyson uprights that swirl the dirt around in a chamber, no bag... I don't like the idea of pretty new plastic appliances that are disposed of after a few years. Give me my 40, 30 and 23 year old vacumne cleaners, my 25 y/o KitchenAid mixer, my 45 year old Hotpoint rotary ironer (mangle), etc. Yep, I'm compulsive about certain things. I'd rather do without until I could afford something of quality rather than buy cheap and replace every year. Appreciating quality and taking proper car of those things is a key! That's why this type of discussion is appropriate on a MBZ thread. While on a rant here... I was taught not to finance anything that depreciates. You'd pay interest on a loan for something new that loses value? That's not always possible. BUT.. I'm afraid I'm pretty close minded when it comes to being interested in new cars. I'm not at all current on new cars, optional equipment, etc. My last conversation with a car dealer was early last spring when I was looking for a new little Ford Ranger pickup. I walked on the lot saying I wanted a basic little 5 speed p/u. Every unit had some ridiculous add-on equipment which boosted the price. I walked on the lot with a price in mind and a checkbook in hand. The salesman tried so hard to sell me on some customer preferred package that he convinced me I would not be a customer as I didn't prefer those packages. I left. The only exception unfortunately is computer hardware. I won't even rant at how the moment you buy something it's planned obsolete. T From: E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2007 01:09:34 -0500 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] completely OT: Kirby vacuum I have an old Electrolux too, from the early 60's. Thing is built like an old Benz. lol. I have a box of all kinds of old attachments for it, including one to vacuum the dog. It's semi-retired now and used to vacuum the cars. Ed 300E On 22/12/2007, Timothy Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Still an Electrolux guy here. I have a 1976 model upstairs and a 1984 model downstairs. Still have my grandparents' '50s model which is a chrome thing on skids. It came with turbo/air powered buffing attachments for the paste wax we used on the hardwood floors. Honestly, for the price of replacing with a new I'd just put a central unit in which exhausts to the outside. Then I could vacume the cat without scaring it. From: E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 18:57:35 -0500 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] completely OT: Kirby vacuum I saw the Dyson's on TV here, the day before they hit the shelves. Ran to the store to get one. Seemed enough at almost $600 at the time, but I'm a clean freak, so hey, why not. Then saw it was made in China, I turned around and walked out. Ed 300E On 21/12/2007, Kevin Kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some newer vacs are healthier because they have replaceable HEPA filters. I've heard how the Dyson vacuums clean up pet hair quite well, and they also don't spew the smelly exhaust out into the room as you're vacuuming! When we were living in an apartment for a few months between houses this summer, the pet hair in such close quarters with no air circulation was too much for Wifey, so we decided to get a Dyson. It did do a good job with the pet hair, the hepa filtered exhaust was wonderful, and it was much easier to maneuver. Will it last 10-15-20 years? I guess time will tell. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300sD 266Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
