[MBZ] Myth or fact? 100 mile W123

2012-02-16 Thread Mitch Haley
http://longisland.craigslist.org/cto/2793843960.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] Myth or fact? 100 mile W123

2012-02-16 Thread Rick Knoble
Plausible. If so Jaime will be all over it. Rick Sent from my iPhone. On Feb 16, 2012, at 7:08 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: http://longisland.craigslist.org/cto/2793843960.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to

[MBZ] OT: airplane footage

2012-02-16 Thread Mitch Haley
Interesting surface disruptions when you fly in ground effect over water: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7rAUu8djZ4 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To

Re: [MBZ] OT - Lawn Mowers

2012-02-16 Thread Dan Penoff
I like this. I used to live right by the Simplicity plant in Wisconsin, where you could see them outside testing tractors on a big piece of ground covered in grass. I am going to check out the Snapper guy in town before I commit. Thanks! Dan On Feb 15, 2012, at 8:15 PM, Rick Knoble

[MBZ] I think this went high.

2012-02-16 Thread Mitch Haley
We started it once, but now it won't start, and it's throwing brake codes (the last could easily be just a brake light switch, but who wants to pay $4k for a 210 that's been sitting for a few years?). http://search.ebay.com/370584539901 ___

Re: [MBZ] Myth or fact? 100 mile W123

2012-02-16 Thread Jaime Kopchinski
I've emailed this guy a few miles and he never responded. Its often listed several ads at a time with descriptions that don't make sense. Its either a scam or someone who is very confused. Jaime On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 8:45 AM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote: Plausible. If so

Re: [MBZ] Myth or fact? 100 mile W123

2012-02-16 Thread Jaime Kopchinski
er, a few times... not a few miles. On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 10:12 AM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.comwrote: I've emailed this guy a few miles and he never responded. Its often listed several ads at a time with descriptions that don't make sense. Its either a scam or someone who is very

[MBZ] 560SL on CL $6950

2012-02-16 Thread Rich Thomas
Looks half decent for a reasonable price http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/2854148680.html --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change

Re: [MBZ] Ebay -WTF w107

2012-02-16 Thread Jim Cathey
Besides the hood ornament (WTF indeed!) what's with the steel wheels on a '77, and the Radio Shack toggle switch next to the gearshift? And a non-Hirschmann antenna on the wrong side? -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to

Re: [MBZ] OT - Lawn Mowers

2012-02-16 Thread Curt Raymond
For a modest size lot a Snapper rear engine rider is hard to beat. Mine is a 1965, its been repowered twice. The first was in 1967 after 2 years mowing a golf course (well probably not the whole course), then again in 2008 or 2009, I forget. This mower had sat outside (in Maine no less) the

Re: [MBZ] OT: airplane footage

2012-02-16 Thread G Mann
Notice the vapor shock wave building just forward of the tail surfaces? That shock wave in ground effect is roughly 3 times the diameter of the wing span, so at that low level pass it is just kissing the water surface. The size of the shock wave increases with speed and air density as well as the

Re: [MBZ] 560SL on CL $6950

2012-02-16 Thread Rich Thomas
oops $6500 --R On 2/16/12 10:15 AM, Rich Thomas wrote: Looks half decent for a reasonable price http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/2854148680.html --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] Myth or fact? 100 mile W123

2012-02-16 Thread G Mann
I just sent the individual an email to attempt direct contact. If the car is as advertised with 100 miles only, I will be most interested, even at the asking price. The stone is cast, let's see what ripples come to shore. Grant... On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 6:07 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net

Re: [MBZ] OT: airplane footage

2012-02-16 Thread Rich Thomas
Technically not shockwaves as the airplane is nowhere close to the speed of sound. Compression and decompression of the air around the surfaces will cause water vapor to condense, which shows up as the fog cloud (or ripples as the case might be). You see that a lot in the summer on

Re: [MBZ] Ebay -WTF w107

2012-02-16 Thread Alex Chamberlain
zero rust showing. Um...look again at the inside of the right rear fender. One of the typical places for cancer to start in a 107. It could be clean everywhere else, but doubtful. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to

Re: [MBZ] OT: airplane footage

2012-02-16 Thread G Mann
Technically correct, thank you. Approaching Mach speed the aerodynamic center of lift [the balance point of the flying aircraft] shifts forward. Almost all executive jets are speed limited to 0.89 Mach because of this. As ACL shifts forward the tail surfaces must respond to that change in center

Re: [MBZ] OT - Lawn Mowers

2012-02-16 Thread Randy Bennell
Unless you feel the need to spend $ I don't know why you think you need a Honda. I bought a Troy-Bilt with a Tecumseh 4 stroke engine at least 5 or 6 years ago. I believe they are just a clone that is sold under a number of different brand names. So far, it has been perfect. I have done

Re: [MBZ] OT: airplane footage

2012-02-16 Thread Rich Thomas
Quite novel explication. Not sure I would agree as it all depends on the configuration of the airplane, wing shape, tail design, etc. Most simply, when lift is lost on the wing (could be due to Mach effects -- you can stall an airplane at any airspeed) the airplane generally stalls and

Re: [MBZ] OT - Lawn Mowers

2012-02-16 Thread Dan Penoff
Honda is the only one out there with a 5 year consumer warranty, for one. I have a lot of experience with their portable generators, which are probably some of the best product on the market. Dan On Feb 16, 2012, at 11:55 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: Unless you feel the

[MBZ] Oil Change Interval

2012-02-16 Thread Larry T
I don't have access to the OM for a few hours and would like to know the official MB Oil Change Interval for my 91 300D. Anyone know what that si? Thx LarryT 91 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list

Re: [MBZ] OT: airplane footage

2012-02-16 Thread G Mann
No worries... Just relaying what I learned in 40 + yrs of flying high and fast. At Mach, different set of aerodynamics come into play. You should be able to find other supporting reference material on what happens to Aerodynamic Center of Lift at Mach pressure wave. One reason the P51 could

Re: [MBZ] OT: airplane footage

2012-02-16 Thread Scott Ritchey
In Test Pilot School, one of the early exercises is a pitot-static calibration where you fly past a tower at various speeds at a constant altitude. The pilot read the altimeter and airspeed as he came line abreast the tower; and his partner in the tower simultaneously read the actual altitude

Re: [MBZ] OT: airplane footage

2012-02-16 Thread Scott Ritchey
In subsonic flight, the center of lift is about 1/4 cord (wing width) aft of the leading edge. The center of mass must be forward of this point for static stability and the horizontal tail must lift down. In supersonic flight, the center of lift moves AFT to about 1/2 cord which requires a lot

Re: [MBZ] OT: airplane footage

2012-02-16 Thread G Mann
Thank you Scott. I reversed the direction of movement in error. You are correct. As supersonic speed is reached the compressed air ahead of the wing stacks on the leading edge to in effect change the MAC [mean aerodynamic cord] of the wing, Thus changing Aerodynamic Center of Lift. Both Wing and

[MBZ] (no subject)

2012-02-16 Thread John English
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Re: [MBZ] (no subject)

2012-02-16 Thread Mitch Haley
John English wrote: http://www.spinadorsale.com/wp-content/themes/twentyten/photos.php?Sally128.jpeg Argh, I can't believe I clicked on that spam. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] (no subject)

2012-02-16 Thread Rick Knoble
Argh, I can't believe I clicked on that spam. And now you have the bug...? Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or

Re: [MBZ] (no subject)

2012-02-16 Thread Mitch Haley
Rick Knoble wrote: Argh, I can't believe I clicked on that spam. And now you have the bug...? Just logged back on after a safe mode reboot and Malwarebytes scan, no infections found. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to

[MBZ] Low Oil Pressure

2012-02-16 Thread clay monroe
http://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/ctd/2838960203.html Looked at this today. In the rain, no obvious current leaks, but there is evidence of former leaks and rust accumulation in the shelf and passenger footwell. Came from the factory as red, and whoever did the spray to black went wild and

Re: [MBZ] Low Oil Pressure

2012-02-16 Thread WILTON
Why oh why would somebody paint black a car like this that came from factory in its best color - red? Wilton - Original Message - From: clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 6:00 PM Subject: [MBZ] Low Oil

[MBZ] '85 300TD rough idle and serious smoking upon cold startup

2012-02-16 Thread glenn brown
I've posted a query about this previously but didn't obtain much to look for regarding my '85 300TD rough idle and serious smoking (white) upon cold startup. After ~ 2 min. warmup, the idle smooths out and the smoking ceases. Note: the car does not burn any oil, nor does it lose any coolant

Re: [MBZ] '85 300TD rough idle and serious smoking upon cold startup

2012-02-16 Thread Mitch Haley
I hope it's not a failing head gasket between 4 and 5. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] '85 300TD rough idle and serious smoking upon cold startup

2012-02-16 Thread Rick Knoble
White smoke is unburnt fuel. Check the glow plugs. Even if one or two are bad, the light may not indicate it. I had the same problem recently. Rusty will price match whoever has the lowest price. Currently that is Rock Auto. Buy all five, I had two bad ones, and another went bad a week later.

Re: [MBZ] '85 300TD rough idle and serious smoking upon cold startup

2012-02-16 Thread Rick Knoble
I forgot to say how. Pull the plug off of the glow plug relay that goes to the glow plugs. Test for resistance. Bosch glow plugs should read 0.6 ohms or there abouts with an accurate meter. Beru will read a little lower (I have Bosch in one car, Beru in the other.) Any that read open or over 1

Re: [MBZ] Low Oil Pressure

2012-02-16 Thread clay monroe
Well, it sort of works better for me. My nemeses are red cars. They all end up totalled. Not my doing, somebody always smashes into them. I am voting that it went black, because the red had oxidized so much and he had lots and lots of black. Smooth and shiny black at this point. The red is

Re: [MBZ] '85 300TD rough idle and serious smoking upon cold startup

2012-02-16 Thread Hans Neureiter
Glow plugs. On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 5:28 PM, glenn brown g_010...@hotmail.com wrote: I've posted a query about this previously but didn't obtain much to look for regarding my '85 300TD rough idle and serious smoking (white) upon cold startup. After ~ 2 min. warmup, the idle smooths out and

Re: [MBZ] Ebay -WTF w107

2012-02-16 Thread Mountain Man
SandNigger wrote: Looks like the guy was a trucker. Got a big rig hood ornament and the toggle switch reads DO NOT USE CB WITH ANTENNA FULLY EXTENDED. What happened to China? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To

Re: [MBZ] OT: airplane footage

2012-02-16 Thread Mountain Man
Grant wrote: Amazing what you can do with a fighter jock ego and a $15 million jet and free fuel, isn't it... ;)) It doesn't need to be $15 mil or fighter jet. Any pilot with a small jet plays. Always. No doubt. Like giving a man a Lambo - it happens. mao

Re: [MBZ] '85 300TD rough idle and serious smoking upon coldstartup

2012-02-16 Thread glenn brown
Apparently many on the list don't fully read posts . . . the glow plugs and circuit are all OK. They all measure 0.5 0.6 ohm using my Fluke 83V VOM. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used

Re: [MBZ] 560SL on CL $6950

2012-02-16 Thread Dan Penoff
I like. A nice price, depending on the history and mileage. Only SL I would ever consider owning. Dan On Feb 16, 2012, at 10:15 AM, Rich Thomas wrote: Looks half decent for a reasonable price http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/2854148680.html --R

Re: [MBZ] '85 300TD rough idle and serious smoking upon coldstartup

2012-02-16 Thread Mountain Man
Glenn wrote: Apparently many on the list don't fully read posts . . . the glow plugs and circuit are all OK.  They all measure 0.5 0.6 ohm using my Fluke 83V VOM. Not so - not this thread. Perhaps in previous thread, but... not this thread. mao ___

Re: [MBZ] '85 300TD rough idle and serious smoking upon coldstartup

2012-02-16 Thread Alex Chamberlain
. . the glow plugs and circuit are all OK. They all measure 0.5 0.6 ohm using my Fluke 83V VOM. What about amp draw? Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To

Re: [MBZ] Driving and talking

2012-02-16 Thread Rolf
I use an android app, autoguard, it rolls vid files every 20min and will call someone if you are hit. Also tracks location w video. A whopping 1.99 or so. -- please excuse the delay in response, I had to wait for the tape to rewind on my commodore 64. G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: Google

Re: [MBZ] '85 300TD rough idle and serious smoking upon coldstartup

2012-02-16 Thread Mountain Man
Glenn wrote: Apparently many on the list don't fully read posts . . . the glow plugs and circuit are all OK.  They all measure 0.5 0.6 ohm using my Fluke 83V VOM. You didn't include the numbers in this thread, but yes, you did write OK...my bad. mao ___

Re: [MBZ] Low Oil Pressure

2012-02-16 Thread Jim Cathey
The real issues are the transmission having an over-broad neutral. Nylon bushings? Checked cold ATF and it was over full. After the test drive, with engine running, stick was dry. Normal, for low fluid. Needs more ATF. Oil pressure indicator does not peg. Light off, got pressure close

Re: [MBZ] Ebay -WTF w107

2012-02-16 Thread Jim Cathey
looks like a pretty clean car with zero rust showing. Look closer! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] '85 300TD rough idle and serious smoking upon cold

2012-02-16 Thread Curt Raymond
Would compression rise on a warm engine? Mobil 1 in the engine? Diesel Purge? -Curt Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 18:28:29 -0500 From: glenn brown g_010...@hotmail.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] '85 300TD rough idle and serious smoking upon cold startup Message-ID:

[MBZ] Tech I don't need

2012-02-16 Thread Mountain Man
With the modern tech in cars being totally connected everything, data bus for connectivity, etc - it seems there could be use for broadcasting codes for repair purposes. I have no idea how that might be useful, but similar to onstar the malfunction could be seen prior to arrival at shop, for

Re: [MBZ] '85 300TD rough idle and serious smoking upon cold

2012-02-16 Thread Jim Cathey
Would compression rise on a warm engine? Yes. In fact, you're only supposed to measure it on a warm engine! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To

Re: [MBZ] '85 300TD rough idle and serious smoking upon cold startup

2012-02-16 Thread Curt Raymond
Really? We're not talking crazy big money to begin with. Rusty's gotta eat too. -Curt Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 17:37:05 -0600 From: Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] '85 300TD rough idle and serious smoking upon cold

Re: [MBZ] Ebay -WTF w107

2012-02-16 Thread Craig
On Thu, 16 Feb 2012 08:41:58 -0800 Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com wrote: zero rust showing. Um...look again at the inside of the right rear fender. One of the typical places for cancer to start in a 107. It could be clean everywhere else, but doubtful. There is rust in the

Re: [MBZ] '85 300TD rough idle and serious smoking upon cold startup

2012-02-16 Thread Peter Frederick
Set the valves to about 0.010 extra clearance and drive for a bit. If they were tight, you can get carbon buildup on the stems, keeping them from closing properly. They will go tight again very quickly as the carbon wears off, and you still don't have them closing properly. The other

Re: [MBZ] '85 300TD rough idle and serious smoking upon coldstartup

2012-02-16 Thread Rick Knoble
Guilty as charged. Rick From: g_010...@hotmail.com Apparently many on the list don't fully read posts . . . the glow plugs and circuit are all OK. They all measure 0.5 0.6 ohm using my Fluke 83V VOM. ___

Re: [MBZ] Ebay -WTF w107

2012-02-16 Thread TE
What do you mean? -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mountain Man Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 9:07 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ebay -WTF w107 SN wrote: Looks like the guy was a trucker.

Re: [MBZ] Ebay -WTF w107

2012-02-16 Thread Rich Thomas
Lots of editing going on here. I believe he is referring to your relocation. --R On 2/16/12 11:12 PM, TE wrote: What do you mean? -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mountain Man Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012

Re: [MBZ] Tech I don't need

2012-02-16 Thread Rich Thomas
I believe big bro and big sis have that all under control. They can get the data remotely and can take the box from your vehicle when there is a crash (4th Amendment to the Constitution of the United States of America is inop in these situations, apparently). (I do sometimes wonder how the

Re: [MBZ] '85 300TD rough idle and serious smoking upon cold startup

2012-02-16 Thread Dieselhead
White smoke is unburned fuel, or water. Since it goes away after a couple min. it is 90% liklihood to be unburned fuel. That indicates either low compression, or bad glow plugs or the oddball things, bad nozzle, broken prechamber tip, bad headgasket between the two cyl. or the like.

Re: [MBZ] airplane footage

2012-02-16 Thread RELNGSON
All this aeronautical stuff and nobody can spell chord. Makes one wonder. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] Ebay -WTF w107

2012-02-16 Thread TE
Well it is the MBZ list after all. I find it hard to believe that Mao has locked himself away in the mountains for so long that he believes the only place with email is the US. Surely there was another reason for his question. TE -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] airplane footage

2012-02-16 Thread Rich Thomas
I here your a looser --R On 2/16/12 11:30 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: All this aeronautical stuff and nobody can spell chord. Makes one wonder. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] ranting again..

2012-02-16 Thread RELNGSON
.With the modern tech in cars being totally connected everything, data bus for connectivity, etc - it seems there could be use for broadcasting codes for repair purposes.  I have no idea how that might be useful, but similar to onstar the malfunction could be seen prior to arrival at

Re: [MBZ] Low Oil Pressure

2012-02-16 Thread Kevin Kraly
Those AUTOMACTIC trannies are expensive to fix. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR, still trying to contact the owner of that 240D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To

Re: [MBZ] airplane footage

2012-02-16 Thread G Mann
Ohhh snap.. I've been wogered. ;) Grant... On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 9:30 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: All this aeronautical stuff and nobody can spell chord. Makes one wonder. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to

[MBZ] who wants a W124 Sportline?

2012-02-16 Thread Mitch Haley
http://nwct.craigslist.org/cto/2806261245.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

[MBZ] Gerry still thinking about SLKs?

2012-02-16 Thread Mitch Haley
http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/cto/2850915022.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

[MBZ] Costa Concordia grounding depiction

2012-02-16 Thread RELNGSON
http://vimeo.com/35351659 RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] airplane footage

2012-02-16 Thread Scott Ritchey
Fivety years ago I kouldnt even spel enginer. -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of relng...@aol.com Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 11:31 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] airplane footage All this

Re: [MBZ] OT: more furnace talk

2012-02-16 Thread Allan Streib
Final verdict... board melted beyond repair. Basically burned through at the relay. Motors are fine, so the relay must have gone south. The damage: new board, $387 + tax, plus diagnostic and installation labor... $600 total. Ouch, who says fancy high-efficiency furnaces save you money???