Beg to disagree. Turbo in my '83 300D has been singing to me for over 100K
miles.
Gerry
From: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net
If you can hear the turbo, it's shot, they are very quiet.
Just because the flap moves doesn't mean you have boost, but you do have
one working switchover valve
snipA San Francisco airport spokesman said a component of the airport's
instrument landing system that tracks an incoming aeroplane's glide path has
been out of service in recent weeks and was not operational on Saturday.
Pilots and air safety experts said the glide path technology was far
Gotta agree with Gerry on this one. I love the faint sound of the turbo on
my 83 300d. Maybe my 2.5 straight pipe exhaust has something to do with
it...lol
Mike
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Sounds like someone is in a world of trouble.
Mike
On Jul 7, 2013 8:41 AM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote:
snipA San Francisco airport spokesman said a component of the airport's
instrument landing system that tracks an incoming aeroplane's glide path
has
been out of service
Jim Cathey wrote:
I will say it again. The drain hose is either split, probably
where it hooks onto the drain channel nipple, or it's pushed off
a little bit. Or there is a rusty spot in the tray. Some of the
water is not going where it's supposed to.
If he can pour a gallon down the drain
Michael Canfield wrote:
Sounds like someone is in a world of trouble.
Yeah, how many WEEKS is is OK to leave something like that unfixed at an
oceanfront international airport with SFO's traffic volume?
Mitch.
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I watched the live helicopter video on FOX online for a bit shortly after
the crash. There was a debris field of small parts starting in the water
and all over the underrun. One main gear truck was lying on the runway very
close to the approach end. It looked like horizontal and vertical tail
'Hit the seawall at end of runway over-run!
Wilton
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From: Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com
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Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2013 9:20 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cause of Frisco crash: Poor piloting plus no glide path?
I
Didn't you say that this _had_ been obstructed, and had
been cleaned out by somebody? Over-aggressive cleaning,
or perhaps a dirt-clogged and water-filled drain channel
went through a freeze cycle? Your car's a bit young to
exhibit aging rubber syndrome there.
looking for service manual
WILTON wrote:
'Hit the seawall at end of runway over-run!
Over run or under run?
Is this scenario possible in a 777?
We're coming in too low! Pull up! Pull up!
Oops, we pulled up so hard it hit tail first!
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On Sun, 7 Jul 2013 08:51:30 -0400 Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com
wrote:
Gotta agree with Gerry on this one. I love the faint sound of the
turbo on my 83 300d. Maybe my 2.5 straight pipe exhaust has something
to do with it...lol
You and Gerry are talking about a W123 turbo. Larry,
The Beeb say it was coming in low and hot. oops.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-23216587
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On 7/7/13 9:38 AM, Mitch Haley wrote:
WILTON wrote:
'Hit the seawall at end of runway over-run!
Over run or under run?
Is this scenario possible in a 777?
We're coming in too low! Pull
Well, it definitely hit the seawall, and perhaps the water before it
hit the seawall. Note the bright colored skin from the bottom of the
tail all crushed into a roll right by the tailcone.
Looks to me as if the main gear on one side and the tail hit the
seawall, and the loss of the main
I don't remember hearing a turbo in a W123 being normal either, but
will find out soon. Certainly did not hear one in the W126 with OM617
I test drove.
Volvo is another story, those sound like a police siren a couple
blocks away!
Peter
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Well, so much for the adage that the safest part of the plane is in the
back... The two victims sat in the last row.
On Sun, Jul 7, 2013 at 10:00 AM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.netwrote:
Well, it definitely hit the seawall, and perhaps the water before it hit
the seawall. Note the
On Sun, 7 Jul 2013 10:10:08 -0400 Andrew Strasfogel
astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote:
Well, so much for the adage that the safest part of the plane is in the
back... The two victims sat in the last row.
That adage, unfortunately, was disproved years ago with a crash at Dallas
and other crashes
Ah..guess I should pay more attention eh?
Mike
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Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
Well, so much for the adage that the safest part of the plane is in the
back... The two victims sat in the last row.
One incident doesn't disprove the claim that it's safest overall, just provides
and example to show that it isn't safest in every crash.
BTW,
Every w123 I have driven you could hear the turbo. My ears are very
sensitive to high frequencies and mechanical noises in general. I guess I
am actually listening for it every time I drive.
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Between the wings is the strongest part of the plane, so it would
stand to reason it would be safest. Problem is that all accidents
are, thankfully, unique and what would be safest in one is not in
another.
I'm still impressed by the strength of that airframe.
Peter
It hit the GROUND. The plane hit the seawall about 500' short of the runway.
Also looks like it was about 30' right of centerline. Although I hate
speculating, it looks like a classic case of low and slow. Pilots were late in
recognizing situation resulting in gear and/or tail section
Food for thought.if you are over the wings, you are also sitting over the
fuel.
On Jul 7, 2013, at 10:30 AM, Peter Frederick wrote:
Between the wings is the strongest part of the plane, so it would stand to
reason it would be safest. Problem is that all accidents are, thankfully,
Clarification: By runway, I mean runway threshold.
On Jul 7, 2013, at 10:54 AM, Jon Agne wrote:
It hit the GROUND. The plane hit the seawall about 500' short of the runway.
Also looks like it was about 30' right of centerline. Although I hate
speculating, it looks like a classic case
You have a leak somewhere
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On Jul 7, 2013, at 5:50 AM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote:
Beg to disagree. Turbo in my '83 300D has been singing to me for over 100K
miles.
Gerry
From: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net
If you can hear the turbo, it's shot,
Thanks Peter --
I still have a number of replies to read but I need to pull the
lower covers so I can start looking over the AT to see if somethingis
broken..If there are plastic parts in the kick-down linkcage that's
a possibility of beingbroken it's certainly something I need to
Thanks Kaleb -- I am reviewing the WSM sections on the Turbo - I need
your help on determining the names of the parts. I always thought I
knew what a waste gate was -- actually I know what it does and what they
look like on some race engines but on this 602-962 engine i have turned
to the
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haR2Q4JfWdc
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Under run- way short!
Wilton
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Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2013 9:38 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cause of Frisco crash: Poor piloting plus no glide path?
WILTON wrote:
'Hit the seawall at
My initial thought, too, was that somebody must've, fallen out the back
when the empennage broke off.
Wilton
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Subject: Re: [MBZ]
Hard to beat a Boeing.
Wilton
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Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2013 10:30 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cause of Frisco crash: Poor piloting plus no glide path?
Between the wings is the
Yep.
Wilton
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Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2013 10:57 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cause of Frisco crash: Poor piloting plus no glide path?
Clarification: By runway, I mean runway threshold.
Having lived within sight of this approach for nearly six months and watched
literally hundreds of landings, maybe more, with the conditions in place at the
time I struggle to understand how a veteran crew like this could have possibly
gone low or had a tail strike on approach.
The FDRs are
I got both discs and hubs back together and on the car, now I am fixing
to set the slop in the bearings. Never used the dial indicator before
to do that, it is a bit fiddly. I had to come in to check how many
inches 2mm is (0.078)
I was doing the L side, getting the hub all greased,
Ha!! Sounds like a senior moment like I have sometimes! At least you
noticed something was odd before putting the wheels back on! ;-)
BTW, don't forget the lug nuts
Larry
(waiting for my wife to get home from work so I can try some of the
great suggestions I rec'd to troubleshoot my AT
Which is also a more comfortable spot from a bouncy perspective and the farther
forward you are it tends to be quieter.
-Curt
Date: Sun, 07 Jul 2013 10:23:53 -0400
From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cause of Frisco crash:
Hey Larry,
I don't know for sure but that name is what a waste gate does.
Mike
On Jul 7, 2013 12:30 PM, Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net wrote:
Thanks Kaleb -- I am reviewing the WSM sections on the Turbo - I need your
help on determining the names of the parts. I always thought I knew what a
I'm sure it's something unusual -- excellent airframe, not prone to
squirrelyness at low speeds, good airline, experienced pilot.
The last time something like this happened it was fuel waxing up
resulting in power loss on final approach, which I'm sure will be
examined.
Peter
On Sun, Jul 7, 2013 at 2:06 PM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.netwrote:
The last time something like this happened it was fuel waxing up resulting
in power loss on final approach, which I'm sure will be examined.
How can something like that possibly happen these days? Hasn't the
tendency
I believe Rolls Royce modified the engines as a result of the previous
crash. Don't know the specifics, but loss of power resulted in the
crash and the cause of the low power was frozen or waxed up fuel in
the engines, not the tanks.
Gelled fuel is a known hazard, but for some reason
Got all the brake work done on the coupe the other day and now it is running
warm. About 105C according to the gauge on the dash. Is that too hot? It was
running about 90C this past fall after I flushed the cooling system. Maybe a
faulty sender? Time for a HF temp gun...
Rick
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Now I just need a fancy spoiler on the front.
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On Sun, 07 Jul 2013 21:22:31 -0400 Rolf r...@winmutt.com wrote:
Now I just need a fancy spoiler on the front.
http://superturbodiesel.com/images/benz/w124.1987.300d/intercooler.fitment/fmic.lights.jpg
How about a cage to protect the intercooler from parking place stop and
other damage?
Grant has previously expressed ideas regarding big changes.
What do you think of our news and Egypt?
It seems to me that someday what will be told is that similar to
espionage from USA in all affairs over the past 50 years, USA fingers
are all over the Egypt affair.
What is the play?
We are being
It's all above my pay grade, so I speculate only, with few fact which could
be verified.
It appears, however, that the save people behind current administration are
heavily invested in the Arab Spring events.
Such as, the new president apparent of Egypt has served as an executive
with Geo Soros
On Sun, 7 Jul 2013 20:18:45 -0500 Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com
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Got all the brake work done on the coupe the other day and now it is
running warm. About 105C according to the gauge on the dash. Is that
too hot?
Ours has been up to that temperature range, but it does come back
http://makezine.com/2013/07/07/ernies-handmade-dwarf-cars/
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On Jul 7, 2013 6:26 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote:
On Sun, 07 Jul 2013 21:22:31 -0400 Rolf r...@winmutt.com wrote:
Now I just need a fancy spoiler on the front.
http://superturbodiesel.com/images/benz/w124.1987.300d/intercooler.fitment/fmic.lights.jpg
How about a cage to
Relax, looks like an air to air intercooler.
Hendrik
who has a lot of scrapes on the front bumper
On 08/07/13 12:55, Alex Chamberlain wrote:
Yeah, what Craig said. Yikes. It makes me nervous just looking at that
thing and knowing there's coolant running through there.
Alex
I drove the 300SD up to Chapel Hill a coupla weeks ago to swap cars
with my daughter. We stayed at the SIL/BIL's place, which is in a
development with a bunch of speed bumps. Having driven there a lot
I know how other cars handle those bumps. In the 84 SD I never
slowed down, it rolled
On Jul 7, 2013, at 9:38 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote:
It was running about 90C this past fall after I flushed the cooling
system.
Is it hotter now than it was last fall when you benchmarked the 90C?
Oh yes. Quite a bit hotter.
Maybe a faulty sender?
Too bad you couldn't
On Jul 7, 2013, at 9:11 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote:
It seems to me that someday what will be told is that similar to
espionage from USA in all affairs over the past 50 years, USA fingers
are all over the Egypt affair.
What is the play?
We are being played.
Always ask Cui
I went over a couple speed bumps for a test. I will be backing into all future
parking spots! this was the best fit you can get on a w124 without cutting away
at the bumper support.
Rolf
who prefers safety
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Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com wrote:
Relax, looks like an
12 oz. for $4 at Menards through 7/14. I don't use it but seems to be a decent
price for small bottles.
Not available in Cali.
http://www.menards.com/main/tools-hardware/automotive/maintenance-fluids-additives/r-134a-refrigerant/p-1778256-c-10098.htm
or avoiding line wrap issues:
Depends on what you call S Class -- there has been a S chassis
(for heavy) since at least 1953.
That would be the 22S in a couple variants and the 280S.
Peter
what about the typ SS and the subsequent typ SSK?
Those are S class in my book.
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A fella on the OzBenz list has a mate with a 124 300D that was taken
to a doctors appointment and 2 hours later wouldn't start.
Here is his cry for help:
I am trying to get a friend's W124 300D going and was wondering what
the expected mileage life could be for one of these engines?
There
Argh! To the pic and the coolant comment.
Mike
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Better jump on this one quick
http://www.benzworld.org/forums/sale-wanted-trade-giveaway/1719800-fs-240cd-manual-turbo-diesel-w123.html#post5850406
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Not just the steering wheel is upside down and backwards, but the
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I don't know how far or how fast- I do know when I do my 70 mile each way
commute on I95 it stays clean. About 300 miles/week @ 70- 80 mph. My
recently acquired 300CD had same problem. My late father- former truck
driver used to tell me son drive a diesel like you stole it.
I Disagree!
Dieselhead wrote:
II have engines sit for years and then fire right up. I don't
think purge will help this problem.
So, you think if the pumps were removed from good running cars, the
problem isn't in storage, so we're either looking at two different
sellers sticking him/me with bad pumps
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