Re: [MBZ] Wars and Syria [was: Re: buymbparts is dead drunk and rattling]

2013-09-10 Thread clay
I got some MB parts from Dr. Fatty and they arrived when he suspected they would. I tried to effectuate a repair using said parts. The car was uncooperative. I need Dr. Fatty to send me the more parts I requested so that I may attempt the repair with greater gusto. clay On Sep 9, 2013, at

Re: [MBZ] Ethanol-free gasoline

2013-09-10 Thread clay
Well that is handy. I will fuel up Frosch there. No need to screw her up with corn spirits. It is nice that the pump is about a mile away. clay On Sep 9, 2013, at 3:59 PM, Craig wrote: For those of you who want ethanol-free gasoline for your MB or small power equipment:

Re: [MBZ] My Next Mercedes Diesel

2013-09-10 Thread Jaime Kopchinski
I have no idea, but I'm sure you could just call a dealer and find out. On Monday, September 9, 2013, Mitch Haley wrote: Jaime Kopchinski wrote: You can still get genuine body parts from MB for the W124... Do they have 90-93 300D right fenders? Last I knew, they didn't have 190D turbo

Re: [MBZ] My Wretched 240D

2013-09-10 Thread Curt Raymond
I don't understand why MB didn't put volt meters in their cars... I'll presume the light isn't on and say you need an alternator. If the light was on maybe a regulator would get it. I've NEVER gotten away with just a regulator (4 out of 5 of my MBs have needed alternators) and if I haven't

Re: [MBZ] OT - buymbparts is drinking tea and eating pancakes

2013-09-10 Thread Curt Raymond
Holy crap they're even made in the USA! Onto my Christmas list. I'm on economy measures, trying to save up some cash. A portion of our roof has to be replaced, which in itself is no big deal but if the contractor comes up with a good enough deal I'll have him do the whole thing... -Curt

Re: [MBZ] My Wretched 240D

2013-09-10 Thread Tim Crone
This thing wouldn't start today in the rain after I had been in the dentist chair for 90 minutes. AAA jumped me, drove straight to O'Reilly's to get a quick and dirty alternator check. Voltage check with engine running, 11.0 volts. Sowhich is more that likely the culprit...

[MBZ] Dr. Strangelove again

2013-09-10 Thread WILTON
BTW, not that anybody cares, but there's no way that Maj. Kong or anybody could get up onto or straddle a bomb in the bomb bay of a B-52. More movie magic. ;) Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To

Re: [MBZ] Dr. Strangelove again

2013-09-10 Thread Jim Cathey
there's no way that Maj. Kong or anybody could get up onto or straddle a bomb in the bomb bay of a B-52. More movie magic. ;) We try not to let pesky reality get in the way of a good story! That is _the_ iconic scene from that movie. (But not my favorite part.) -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] My Wretched 240D

2013-09-10 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
You probably just need to replace the alternator at this point Sent from my iPhone On Sep 9, 2013, at 11:11 PM, Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com wrote: This thing wouldn't start today in the rain after I had been in the dentist chair for 90 minutes. AAA jumped me, drove straight to

Re: [MBZ] My Wretched 240D

2013-09-10 Thread Gary Hurst
did he figure out his general electrical problems yet? On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 10:36 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: You probably just need to replace the alternator at this point Sent from my iPhone On Sep 9, 2013, at 11:11 PM, Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com wrote: This

Re: [MBZ] Bad Drivers

2013-09-10 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
I wasn't passing judgment on his racism, or lack thereof, but merely the precision of his syntax. On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Yes, that is what he means, using the Eurocentric designation (orient rising sun east, that sort of

Re: [MBZ] Home garage lift (pit?)

2013-09-10 Thread Randy Bennell
I doubt that you are too cheap. A lift in a home garage is an unusual thing. Some would call it a real luxury and unnecessary thing. It might be nice to have but there are lots of nice things that one thinks about but is unable to justify in most cases. Randy On 10/09/2013 10:55 AM, Andrew

Re: [MBZ] My Wretched 240D

2013-09-10 Thread Bob Rentfro
The light comes on (when starting) then goes out and does not come back on. Sounds like it's going to be the alternator. And, Gary, the initial issue was the ground cable. I made a new one from 2 ought cable and ran it directly from the negative post to the starter bolt. This alternator issue is

Re: [MBZ] Bad Drivers

2013-09-10 Thread Randy Bennell
Thanks Clay. I was pretty happy to dodge that one too. That is the second time I have had a similar near miss with the car. I think perhaps its low power is what saved me in the sense that the other driver took off quicker than I did and was ahead of me rather than beside me. Given the size of

Re: [MBZ] My Wretched 240D

2013-09-10 Thread Michael Canfield
So is the Advance Auto alternator still under warranty? Mike On Sep 10, 2013 10:27 AM, Tim Crone bb...@crone.us wrote: This thing wouldn't start today in the rain after I had been in the dentist chair for 90 minutes. AAA jumped me, drove straight to O'Reilly's to get a quick and

Re: [MBZ] Bad Drivers

2013-09-10 Thread Gary Hurst
last i heard, asian is PC but oriental is not, but the rules change all the time. On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 11:54 AM, Richard Hattaway rhatta...@rocketmail.com wrote: I wasn't passing judgment on his racism, or lack thereof, but merely the precision of his syntax. I am at a loss here. Is

Re: [MBZ] Bad Drivers

2013-09-10 Thread Michael Canfield
You got it Wilton. Sad times when stating fact is thought of as a racial slur because some sissy failed to leave his/her feelings under the pillow when they got out of bed. I call it The Pussification of America. I tend to not worry too much about PC..Mac is much less troubleB-) Mike

[MBZ] Is Orientals a PC term ?

2013-09-10 Thread Richard Hattaway
The internet is full of concepts and opinions.  I couldn't stand it, so I went to one of the largest purveyors of opinion to see what they say http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orient So it certainly appears that it depends on what country you live in, and in our country, depends on what state you

Re: [MBZ] Home garage lift

2013-09-10 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
How can I find a qualified installer? On Sep 10, 2013 10:47 AM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 20:36:04 -0700 Greg Fiorentino gf...@dslnorthwest.net wrote: This is the general type of inserts we installed to anchor tanks and pumps in the Roseton Generating Station

[MBZ] Paatz.

2013-09-10 Thread Frederick Moir
Alles. Got my paatz from Gary today. Right parts, right price, right on time! Woohoo!   Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] Bad Drivers

2013-09-10 Thread Curt Raymond
Neither is particularly descriptive in a useful way, like african American. I know a guy from South Africa, he's white as me but looks a bit like a hobbit. He proudly declares that he's african American and its true, he's a naturalized citizen. People say african American when they mean black.

Re: [MBZ] Home garage lift

2013-09-10 Thread Craig
On Tue, 10 Sep 2013 14:18:17 -0400 Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: How can I find a qualified installer? As the manufacturer of the lift, or your local distributor (but, of course, not Costco). Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search

Re: [MBZ] Paatz.

2013-09-10 Thread Frederick Moir
Gary. No, It didn't. Maybe I should learn the emoticon waltz to clarify my babble. One of my oldest friends is a marketing type, and a good one,. We snipe at each other constantly and laugh like hell!   Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. From: Gary Hurst

Re: [MBZ] Paatz.

2013-09-10 Thread Gary Hurst
i hate marketing as it is the art of selling you garbage you don't have any use for and making you feel good about the hosing just received i don't get why people go for it, but they love it. not getting this is probably why i'm not good with the ladies either it's all foreign to me On Tue,

Re: [MBZ] Home garage lift

2013-09-10 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Local distributor of what? We don't make or distribute anything where I live except policy papers and gridlock. On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 3:25 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Tue, 10 Sep 2013 14:18:17 -0400 Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: How can I find a qualified

Re: [MBZ] Paatz.

2013-09-10 Thread Gary Hurst
harold lloyd had similar problems, btw, when switching over to talkies On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 4:19 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: i hate marketing as it is the art of selling you garbage you don't have any use for and making you feel good about the hosing just received i don't

Re: [MBZ] Paatz.

2013-09-10 Thread Rich Thomas
I am buying some springs from Gary. He promised me they would lift my bonnet and keep it up, even on an old car. --R On 9/10/13 4:19 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: i hate marketing as it is the art of selling you garbage you don't have any use for and making you feel good about the hosing just

Re: [MBZ] Bad Drivers

2013-09-10 Thread clay
Are russians asians? There is a lot of that country stuck on asia. And the people on the steppes? Asian? The Indian indians do not like being called asians. Must be the mountain range separates them from china makes them non asian. Are we needing to drill down fully so that we cover all

Re: [MBZ] How the dealer tried to screw me over

2013-09-10 Thread mlh
After they could tell I knew what I was talking about and I have all the same diagnostic equipment they had they dropped the issue. I hate dealers. Reminds me of the time I helped a friend drop off a F250 6.9 at the dealer to have the control pressures checked in the transmission. They called

Re: [MBZ] Is Orientals a PC term ?

2013-09-10 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Sep 10, 2013 2:40 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: Technically... the term to De Nigrate .. or to be Denegrating is not politically correct.. the foundational history of that word is to compare someone of the n word status by action, deed, or intent... Close, but no cigar.

Re: [MBZ] Rain

2013-09-10 Thread Gary Hurst
bet they are nice parts though On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 2:38 PM, Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.comwrote: Alles. I must not live right. Got my parts, went outside and now it is raining, geesh! Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. ___

Re: [MBZ] Is Orientals a PC term ?

2013-09-10 Thread Richard Hattaway
Wilton, As Marshall took his last breath, he whispered to me that he really think's it's OK if someone does not sign his posts.  (c: And you can take Rowan County's recently adopted PC terminology for your county if you wish.  You're close enough and old enough (c: What happened to the

Re: [MBZ] Spray on undercoat

2013-09-10 Thread dseretakis
Another option is seam sealer in a can. Apply with a brush and then texture with the end of the bristles by dabbing. This can simulate the thick sprayed on look. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 10, 2013, at 4:59 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Anybody want to talk about cars? ;)

Re: [MBZ] Spray on undercoat

2013-09-10 Thread clay
Demitri, make sure you paint the POR, as it breaks down when exposed to UV. Might not get much on the underside, but better safe. I put a light coat on my POR with cheapo rattle can even though it is under the carpeting, clay On Sep 10, 2013, at 3:16 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Another

Re: [MBZ] Dr. Strangelove again

2013-09-10 Thread Mountain Man
OK Don wrote: You have to suspend disbelief when watching movies --- I watched Safe House several months ago. Probably not believable, but Denzel Washington was too cool. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] Bad Drivers

2013-09-10 Thread Greg Fiorentino
...perhaps a legacy of racial bias, slavery etc. It is a common misconception that the US is unique or even preeminent in having a history of slavery. Most of the African slave trade went east, not west. Even the western slave trade went more to countries south of the US. Slavery exists today

Re: [MBZ] Bad Drivers

2013-09-10 Thread WILTON
We have some Orientals, Iranian (Persian), Indian, Kurdish, and others (can't remember the specifics) here in the house; 'walk on 'em every day. ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: clay redgh...@comcast.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, September

[MBZ] CL moron of the week, and it is only tuesday

2013-09-10 Thread clay
http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/ctd/4045628292.html This just screams idiot who should not sell cars. clay 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately well tailored chap 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a

Re: [MBZ] Paatz.

2013-09-10 Thread WILTON
Dependable, reliable, long-lived, economical, timely. ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 3:44 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Paatz. you are missing the whole point of

Re: [MBZ] Spray on undercoat

2013-09-10 Thread Curt Raymond
What I'm not good enough to reply to? My plan to coat the POR15 was a big part of why I was asking... -Curt Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2013 15:22:05 -0700 From: clay redgh...@comcast.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Spray on undercoat Message-ID:

Re: [MBZ] SDL lives!

2013-09-10 Thread Craig
On Tue, 10 Sep 2013 19:11:10 -0400 WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: '87 300D cruise control working nicely now with amp cannibalized from SDL. 'Sure makes it a lot easier for me to drive. ATTABOY!!! Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list

Re: [MBZ] Paatz.

2013-09-10 Thread Gary Hurst
it's funny but i'm just talking about your springs with clay. here is one reply i got trying to source them so i could ship them to you today rather than wait on MB You have to be kidding I though you would get request on waterpumps , brakes tune up parts, shocks You seem to get a lot of weird

Re: [MBZ] Paatz.

2013-09-10 Thread dseretakis
Damn, you don't look or act 70! Sent from my iPhone On Sep 10, 2013, at 4:08 PM, Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.com wrote: Gary. I'll have some of what you are smoking. Ironically. I'm 70, Been there and done most of that and have a pair of TDs to show for it. Marketing makes me tired.

Re: [MBZ] Is Orientals a PC term ?

2013-09-10 Thread Gary Hurst
there was the famous story of the guy who lost his job for saying niggardly. On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 5:40 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: Technically... the term to De Nigrate .. or to be Denegrating is not politically correct.. the foundational history of that word is to compare someone

Re: [MBZ] Paatz.

2013-09-10 Thread Gary Hurst
yes, my parts will keep you young. living proof! just call me dr dulcamara! On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 8:23 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Damn, you don't look or act 70! Sent from my iPhone On Sep 10, 2013, at 4:08 PM, Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.com wrote: Gary. I'll have some

Re: [MBZ] Paatz.

2013-09-10 Thread Frederick Moir
Gary. I'll have some of what you are smoking. Ironically. I'm 70, Been there and done most of that and have a pair of TDs to show for it. Marketing makes me tired. Bullsh*t, bullsh*t, bullsh*t etc. ad nauseum. The only time I'm On the go is when I need to pee. Engineering types ask, Bigger that

[MBZ] Rain

2013-09-10 Thread Frederick Moir
Alles. I must not live right. Got my parts, went outside and now it is raining, geesh!   Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

[MBZ] Pee Cee, not

2013-09-10 Thread Frederick Moir
There's an annual contest at the Griffiths University, Australia, calling for the most appropriate definition of a contemporary term.   This year's term was.. 'political correctness'.   The winning student wrote: Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical

Re: [MBZ] Bad Drivers

2013-09-10 Thread Greg Fiorentino
So I was talking to my (then much younger and very PC) daughter and committed the unpardonable sin of saying that I bought some groceries at the Oriental Grocery...the actual name of the store. She demanded to know then how I would like being called an occidental. I honestly (missing the point

Re: [MBZ] My Wretched 240D

2013-09-10 Thread Michael Canfield
Maybe Robert has been into some of Georges' magic smoke? That stuff has been such a challenge for Lucas to keep in the wires. Mike On Sep 10, 2013 12:34 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: did you apologize to robert bosch yet for accusing him of being the new george lucas? On Tue,

Re: [MBZ] Bad Drivers

2013-09-10 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
And BTW, my Asian ex spouse never caused an accident and was a very capable driver, despite having been chauffered around as a child of an upper class family in Burma before learning to drive on her own. On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 11:32 AM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.comwrote: I wasn't

Re: [MBZ] Paatz.

2013-09-10 Thread Gary Hurst
you left out how sexy they make you feel On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 2:30 PM, Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.comwrote: Alles. Got my paatz from Gary today. Right parts, right price, right on time! Woohoo! Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. ___

Re: [MBZ] Paatz.

2013-09-10 Thread Frederick Moir
Um. Gary's parts make me feel sexy? Not!   Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 3:00 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Paatz. you left out how

Re: [MBZ] Bad Drivers

2013-09-10 Thread Richard Hattaway
I wasn't passing judgment on his racism, or lack thereof, but merely the precision of his syntax. I am at a loss here.  Is the term Oriental or Asian not politically correct any more? In my redneck area of the world, the two are the same, and neither is considered offensive or racist. Do I

Re: [MBZ] Home garage lift (pit?)

2013-09-10 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Maybe. How would you adapt it to modern life, centered on an amateur mechanic too cheap to buy a lift?. On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 11:38 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: Sounds like a great plot for a modern day Edgar Allen Poe story. The pit in the garage. Bricks in a hole?

Re: [MBZ] My Wretched 240D

2013-09-10 Thread Gary Hurst
did you apologize to robert bosch yet for accusing him of being the new george lucas? On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 12:20 PM, Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com wrote: The light comes on (when starting) then goes out and does not come back on. Sounds like it's going to be the alternator. And, Gary,

Re: [MBZ] CL moron of the week, and it is only tuesday

2013-09-10 Thread clay
Maybe only one bank actually works. The listing has it as V8. that means they are aware there are 8, but maybe only 4 function. So it would be twice the price with all banks firing? clay On Sep 10, 2013, at 4:50 PM, Richard Hattaway wrote: So they think it's a four cylinder?? I'd go

Re: [MBZ] Bad Drivers

2013-09-10 Thread Rich Thomas
There you go. Hope for everyone! I'm thinking that riding in a car in Burma would be roughly equivalent to driving around Boston from the age of 2 as far as experience with the whole car deal goes. If you don't like how I drive, stay off the damn sidewalk! --R On 9/10/13 11:34 AM,

Re: [MBZ] Bad Drivers

2013-09-10 Thread WILTON
What happened to the terms for different races that I learned about many years ago in high school or college - Caucasian, Negroid, Mongoloid, etc.? Isn't it merely a statement of fact, not meant as anything denigrating? - Original Message - From: Greg Fiorentino

Re: [MBZ] Bad Drivers

2013-09-10 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Do you mean Asians? On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 1:39 AM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: I am not impressed with the driving ability of orientals. I am pretty sure the ones across the street are PLA spies. Been there two years and seem to get new high end cars every six months or so. First it

Re: [MBZ] Bad Drivers

2013-09-10 Thread Gary Hurst
no, greg, the whole PC thing it to bring certain individuals power that they did not have before. it's about how the disenfranchised gain control On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 12:55 PM, Greg Fiorentino gf...@dslnorthwest.netwrote: So I was talking to my (then much younger and very PC) daughter and

Re: [MBZ] Home garage lift

2013-09-10 Thread Craig
On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 20:36:04 -0700 Greg Fiorentino gf...@dslnorthwest.net wrote: This is the general type of inserts we installed to anchor tanks and pumps in the Roseton Generating Station (across the Hudson from West Point):

Re: [MBZ] Bad Drivers

2013-09-10 Thread clay
Sorry Wilton, you can only self identify, no longer is race able to be designated. You have to be latino or african american. You can be white is you really need to be. Maybe asian american, but they are not happy about that given the density of that population here, prefer to be identified

Re: [MBZ] How the dealer tried to screw me over

2013-09-10 Thread WILTON
Welcome aboard! Wilton - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com; davesl...@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 4:49 PM Subject: [MBZ] How the dealer tried to screw me over So I had to trailer my GL

Re: [MBZ] Bad Drivers

2013-09-10 Thread clay
The latins are less afraid of their shadows and more honest with identifying characteristics. IT does speed things along when you can say it was a chinese or a turk indicating a store owner, as they tended to focus according to ethnicity what sort of retail business it was. Like being able to

[MBZ] (CORRECTION) My Wretched 240D

2013-09-10 Thread Gerry Archer
Sorry to hear you're having so much trouble, Bob. I'm still playing with the alternator? regulator? battery? problem in my '83 300D because I want to figure out why I, and many other people, are having fairly frequent problems. I've set up a bench test with a new shop battery (that's

Re: [MBZ] Dr. Strangelove again

2013-09-10 Thread WILTON
'Zackly. ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 10:30 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Dr. Strangelove again there's no way that Maj. Kong or anybody could get up onto or

Re: [MBZ] Home garage lift (pit?)

2013-09-10 Thread Rich Thomas
The story would clearly start, Hey y'all, ho mah beer and watchiss --R On 9/10/13 12:16 PM, Craig wrote: On Tue, 10 Sep 2013 11:55:22 -0400 Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 11:38 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: On Tue, 10 Sep 2013 10:59:12

Re: [MBZ] Bad Drivers

2013-09-10 Thread clay
Two points. The north koreans are now purchasing Porsche, having moved on from BMW. the school #2 boys attends just let us know they are in lock down. Seems some men in a dark sedan decided to open fire on an unarmed fellow. He was transported to hospital in critical condition. There were a

Re: [MBZ] Bad Drivers

2013-09-10 Thread WILTON
'Forgot to sign it - yes, 'tis I, 'tis I, 'tis I. WILTON - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 1:04 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bad Drivers What happened to the terms for different races

Re: [MBZ] Bad Drivers

2013-09-10 Thread Dan Penoff
A parent of one of my son's friends is from Dutch Guiana. She refers to people by the color of their skin. When I asked her about this, she said it was a common way in her previous culture to identify people, as in a black man or a yellow woman. She emphasized that it was never done in a

Re: [MBZ] Bad Drivers

2013-09-10 Thread Michael Canfield
So if this works like other minorities then if you are Oriental or Asian you can refer to your peers as Chinks and still be politically correct? Mike Who hopes someone besides me gets the humor... On Sep 10, 2013 12:31 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: last i heard, asian is PC

Re: [MBZ] Bad Drivers

2013-09-10 Thread Gary Hurst
i lived in a county with 100,000 asians and it was indicated to me that oriental was not the preferred nomenclature, to quote a great sage of our times. but i personally don't care as i don't get involved in these sorts of PC things. On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 12:33 PM, Andrew Strasfogel

Re: [MBZ] Home garage lift (pit?)

2013-09-10 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Sounds like a great plot for a modern day Edgar Allen Poe story. The pit in the garage. On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 10:59 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: I wouldn't feel comfortable in the brick-lined pit. Wilton - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] My Wretched 240D

2013-09-10 Thread Gerry Archer
Sorry to hear you're having so much trouble, Bob. I'm still playing with the alternator? regulator? battery? problem in my '83 300D because I want to figure out why I, and many other people, are having fairly frequent problems. I've set up a bench test with a new shop battery (that's

Re: [MBZ] Rain

2013-09-10 Thread Curt Raymond
And how, it rained hard for awhile there. I welded 40 sq inches into the Jetta yesterday. Had debated putting it off until this morning, glad I didn't! I got a parts order from my local CarQuest which reminds me I need to contact Dr. Fatty with an order of the stuff they couldn't get. They've

Re: [MBZ] My Wretched 240D

2013-09-10 Thread Larry T
Tim, Cannot imagine how frustrated you must be!! Did you test the Glow Plug Relay? the test procedures are in the WSM -- I can look it up and send it to you if you'd like -- with all the electrical draw you have it sure sounds like the GPR. I suggest you also use a analog Volt Meter to

Re: [MBZ] Is Orientals a PC term ?

2013-09-10 Thread G Mann
Technically... the term to De Nigrate .. or to be Denegrating is not politically correct.. the foundational history of that word is to compare someone of the n word status by action, deed, or intent... Have we really come this far? Grant... Who is Compassion Challenged with Political Correctness

Re: [MBZ] Dr. Strangelove again

2013-09-10 Thread OK Don
You have to suspend disbelief when watching movies --- On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 10:57 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: 'Zackly. ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, September 10,

Re: [MBZ] Bad Drivers

2013-09-10 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Oriental is fine. It means Korean or Japanese. On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 12:31 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: last i heard, asian is PC but oriental is not, but the rules change all the time. On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 11:54 AM, Richard Hattaway rhatta...@rocketmail.com wrote:

Re: [MBZ] Home garage lift (pit?)

2013-09-10 Thread Jim Cathey
Sounds like a great plot for a modern day Edgar Allen Poe story. The pit in the garage. Bricks in a hole? I'm thinking Amontillado, not pendulum. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To

Re: [MBZ] Bad Drivers

2013-09-10 Thread clay
But they are not a carpet. That is racist to say a middle eastern rug is oriental. If the thing is made in china, it can be oriental. clay On Sep 10, 2013, at 11:31 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: Neither is particularly descriptive in a useful way, like african American. I know a guy from South

Re: [MBZ] Paatz.

2013-09-10 Thread Gary Hurst
you are missing the whole point of marketing. it;'s not about parts. it's about a lifestyle. young! sexy! on the go! On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 3:40 PM, Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.comwrote: Um. Gary's parts make me feel sexy? Not! Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred.

Re: [MBZ] Bad Drivers

2013-09-10 Thread Gary Hurst
my daughter informed me with great delight that her bad teacher ended a dispute between 2 students by screaming niggers ain't bad in band at them. while i personally find this incredibly charming and have great respect for his taking command of the situation, i cannot help but lament the double

Re: [MBZ] Rain

2013-09-10 Thread Frederick Moir
True.   Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 2:58 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rain bet they are nice parts though On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at

Re: [MBZ] Bad Drivers

2013-09-10 Thread Randy Bennell
I guess I could have described the driver differently. I might have used oriental or ??? but I was trying to be somewhat conservative and not appear to be too red necked. The fellow may have been Korean, Phillipino, etc. Hard to tell since I am A) not an expert on that sort of thing, and B)

Re: [MBZ] Bad Drivers

2013-09-10 Thread Gary Hurst
asian is a particularly bad way to say it as it excludes most of asia from its designation. On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 11:32 AM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.comwrote: I wasn't passing judgment on his racism, or lack thereof, but merely the precision of his syntax. On Tue, Sep 10,

Re: [MBZ] My Wretched 240D

2013-09-10 Thread Bob Rentfro
Yes. I have asked for his forgiveness. Bob R On Sep 10, 2013 9:34 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: did you apologize to robert bosch yet for accusing him of being the new george lucas? On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 12:20 PM, Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com wrote: The light comes on

[MBZ] SDL lives!

2013-09-10 Thread WILTON
'87 300D cruise control working nicely now with amp cannibalized from SDL. 'Sure makes it a lot easier for me to drive. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go

Re: [MBZ] Spray on undercoat

2013-09-10 Thread clay
my error. I saw demitri and meant Curt. clay On Sep 10, 2013, at 4:28 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: What I'm not good enough to reply to? My plan to coat the POR15 was a big part of why I was asking... -Curt Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2013 15:22:05 -0700 From: clay redgh...@comcast.net To:

Re: [MBZ] Paatz.

2013-09-10 Thread Gary Hurst
that is exactly my point, but, alas, it is missed :( On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 4:08 PM, Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.comwrote: Gary. I'll have some of what you are smoking. Ironically. I'm 70, Been there and done most of that and have a pair of TDs to show for it. Marketing makes me

[MBZ] Spray on undercoat

2013-09-10 Thread Curt Raymond
Anybody want to talk about cars? ;) So I did a bunch of welding on the Jetta, its cleaning up nicely but will need a helluva lot more. I may finally finish off the old computer I've been scavenging metal out of and move on to my recently replaced microwave. It'll be a hard move, computer metal

Re: [MBZ] CL moron of the week, and it is only tuesday

2013-09-10 Thread Richard Hattaway
So they think it's a four cylinder?? I'd go look at that car if it were on this coast.  The price is right for here, and I love English Red.  From: clay redgh...@comcast.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, September 10,

Re: [MBZ] Bad Drivers

2013-09-10 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Ot perhaps a legacy of racial bias, slavery etc. On Sep 10, 2013 4:41 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: A parent of one of my son's friends is from Dutch Guiana. She refers to people by the color of their skin. When I asked her about this, she said it was a common way in her previous

Re: [MBZ] Pee Cee, not

2013-09-10 Thread OK Don
I LOVE it! Give that student an A+! On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 1:04 PM, Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.comwrote: There's an annual contest at the Griffiths University, Australia, calling for the most appropriate definition of a contemporary term. This year's term was.. 'political

Re: [MBZ] My Wretched 240D

2013-09-10 Thread Scott Ritchey
My experience: 79 300TD - Bad diode. Replaced rectifier assembly twice (local purchase) and both failed in short order. Replaced alternator with Bosch reman (Circa 2000) with no subsequent failures when sold in 2007. 82 300TD - Wouldn't start in 2005. Replaced regulator (short brushes) and

Re: [MBZ] Bad Drivers

2013-09-10 Thread Scott Ritchey
Politically correct is an oxymoron. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] My Wretched 240D

2013-09-10 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Does the light turn on when you turn the key on? If that bulb is burned out it will not charge. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 10, 2013, at 7:53 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: I don't understand why MB didn't put volt meters in their cars... I'll presume the light isn't on and

[MBZ] How the dealer tried to screw me over

2013-09-10 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
So I had to trailer my GL to the MB dealer yesterday. The reason being LF airmatic shock blew out all the sudden. This was done at the dealer on 9/14 last year, so it falls under the 1 years parts and labor warranty. I have also noticed the LR sometimes seems to sink when it is sitting at

Re: [MBZ] Bad Drivers

2013-09-10 Thread Rich Thomas
I worked with a guy named Billy Goon who was Chinese. One day we were talking and he says he plays poker with a bunch of other chinamen. At that time, that term was derogatory from what I understood, so I say whoa you can't be saying that. He asks what I mean, I say you can't say chinamen

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