Re: [MBZ] Norwegian Air Shuttle Scheme

2014-03-05 Thread Larry T
IMO the auto industry is close to being totally government mandated, That's why all cars look so much alike. We'll never give another Colin Chapman (Lotus) or Ferdinand Porsche (VW and Porsche) and many others the latitude to innovate. Everything must be cookie cutter and yet they still

[MBZ] I would sure love to know what the hell this guy is talking about

2014-03-05 Thread rogerhga
Kaleb, He is probably kin to one of those folks I've seen list a 123 300D as having a V-6 engine. Or that a 116 300SD has an inline 6 cylinder engine. It never surprises me how many people try to sell a vehicle without knowing what they've been driving and what's under the hood. Roger Roger

[MBZ] Hydraulic pump for 123 wagon suspension

2014-03-05 Thread Max Dillon
Anybody have a source for new? Rebuilt? Kent Bergsma contact info to see if he has any NOS? -- Max Dillon Charleston, SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] I would sure love to know what the hell this guy is talking about

2014-03-05 Thread Rich Thomas
He is confused -- it actually has the Wanker engine in it. --R On 3/4/14 8:41 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: http://kansascity.craigslist.org/cto/4359764976.html -- Sent from cPRO for iPhone, iPod and iPad Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] I would sure love to know what the hell this guy is talking about

2014-03-05 Thread Max Dillon
I knew that was coming, we can always depend on you Rich... Lunch on Friday work for you? Need to return the spring compressor. On March 5, 2014 9:47:44 AM EST, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: He is confused -- it actually has the Wanker engine in it. -- Max Dillon

Re: [MBZ] Hydraulic pump for 123 wagon suspension

2014-03-05 Thread Rick Knoble
There is (was?) a parts supplier on this very list that can help, I'm sure.Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com

Re: [MBZ] Norwegian Air Shuttle Scheme

2014-03-05 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
OTOH, try and make a crappy car now and it won't sell, thanks to the internet and rapid dissemination of information among consumers. This has really leveled the playing field. I would argue that 99 percent of new cars are quite awesome in terms of reliability and technological advancements.

Re: [MBZ] Hydraulic pump for 123 wagon suspension

2014-03-05 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Just get one from the junk yard or on ebay. Ther are several here that look decent. Pick one being offered by a 100 percent ++ feedback seller

Re: [MBZ] Norwegian Air Shuttle Scheme

2014-03-05 Thread Randy Bennell
On 04/03/2014 6:09 PM, Mountain Man wrote: Scott wrote: You can thank our legal system for the lack of innovation in aviation today. I would also thank our cookie cutter education system for lack of innovation and lack of invention in anything today. We are cookie cutter educated in all

Re: [MBZ] Leatherique

2014-03-05 Thread Randy Bennell
On Mar 4, 2014 6:20 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: I have a full grown ornamental fig at the corner of the house that is just bursting with figs. Too bad we don't have any use for them. Not sure they're edible anyway. Dan Lots of info on the web about how to make wine from figs.

Re: [MBZ] Hydraulic pump for 123 wagon suspension

2014-03-05 Thread Max Dillon
Thanks, but Owner of this car spends good money for either OE or rebuilt (if OE is unreasonable or unavailable), not interested in used. On March 5, 2014 11:14:54 AM EST, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Just get one from the junk yard or on ebay. -- Max Dillon Charleston, SC

Re: [MBZ] OM603 head immersion test

2014-03-05 Thread Max Dillon
Paint, latex based. Good idea to check that... On March 5, 2014 11:28:40 AM EST, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: First thought I had was what used to be in the barrel? -- Max Dillon Charleston, SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list

Re: [MBZ] OM603 head immersion test

2014-03-05 Thread Randy Bennell
First thought I had was what used to be in the barrel? Hopefully, nothing that might cause a big boom when you start cutting with whatever tool. Randy On 04/03/2014 8:38 PM, Max Dillon wrote: My first thought was Plasma torch! But I don't have a buddy who owns one and can't justify

Re: [MBZ] OM603 head immersion test

2014-03-05 Thread Randy Bennell
Very good. Second thought was, which way is he going to cut it? IE - like one would to make a big bbq like trough or crossways to make something like 2 big pails? Randy On 05/03/2014 10:33 AM, Max Dillon wrote: Paint, latex based. Good idea to check that... On March 5, 2014 11:28:40 AM

Re: [MBZ] Hydraulic pump for 123 wagon suspension

2014-03-05 Thread Rich Thomas
There is (or was) a reliable parts supplier on the list who might be able to find one. --R On 3/5/14 11:29 AM, Max Dillon wrote: Thanks, but Owner of this car spends good money for either OE or rebuilt (if OE is unreasonable or unavailable), not interested in used. On March 5, 2014

Re: [MBZ] OM603 head immersion test

2014-03-05 Thread Curt Raymond
I passed on a torch set last summer and I've been kicking myself ever since. It was at a yard sale and cheap money but I'd have to run to the ATM and back. I did pick up a nice torque wrench but theres not much more fun you can have with your clothes on than cutting with a torch. -Curt Date:

Re: [MBZ] I would sure love to know what the hell this guy is talking about

2014-03-05 Thread G Mann
Is that the V8 turbo diesel wanker engine I've heard so little about... ;)) But... does the air blow cold? And what kind of oil does it run on now, cooking oil? Not the car for me.. the ex-wife never cooked, so no cooking oil to run it on.. hahaha Where do these people come from ? Is

Re: [MBZ] OM603 head immersion test

2014-03-05 Thread Randy Bennell
On 05/03/2014 11:25 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: I passed on a torch set last summer and I've been kicking myself ever since. It was at a yard sale and cheap money but I'd have to run to the ATM and back. I did pick up a nice torque wrench but theres not much more fun you can have with your

Re: [MBZ] Leatherique

2014-03-05 Thread Dan Penoff
Meh. I don't drink wine, so that's out. If I could make Fig Newtons, now that would motivate me! Dan Sent from my iPad On Mar 5, 2014, at 11:25 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: On Mar 4, 2014 6:20 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: I have a full grown ornamental fig at the

Re: [MBZ] Hydraulic pump for 123 wagon suspension

2014-03-05 Thread Dan Penoff
Just a hint: it's the one with the sexy. Dan Sent from my iPad On Mar 5, 2014, at 11:49 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: There is (or was) a reliable parts supplier on the list who might be able to find one. --R On 3/5/14 11:29 AM, Max Dillon wrote:

Re: [MBZ] Leatherique

2014-03-05 Thread Randy Bennell
No problem. If you make good wine, I am sure there are folks here on the forum who would be happy to drink it for you. Randy On 05/03/2014 11:55 AM, Dan Penoff wrote: Meh. I don't drink wine, so that's out. If I could make Fig Newtons, now that would motivate me! Dan Sent from my iPad On

Re: [MBZ] Leatherique AND FIGS

2014-03-05 Thread Randy Bennell
Another quick Google suggests you could make jam instead of wine. Randy On 05/03/2014 11:55 AM, Dan Penoff wrote: Meh. I don't drink wine, so that's out. If I could make Fig Newtons, now that would motivate me! Dan Sent from my iPad On Mar 5, 2014, at 11:25 AM, Randy Bennell

Re: [MBZ] Leatherique AND FIGS

2014-03-05 Thread Frederick Moir
Figgy pudding?   Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, March 5, 2014 12:58 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Leatherique AND FIGS Another quick Google suggests

Re: [MBZ] Leatherique

2014-03-05 Thread Dan Penoff
Heh. So would the wife. She makes up for my lack of wine consumption. I still like the Fig Newton idea. Dan Sent from my iPad On Mar 5, 2014, at 12:57 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: No problem. If you make good wine, I am sure there are folks here on the forum who would be

Re: [MBZ] I would sure love to know what the hell this guy is talking about

2014-03-05 Thread arche...@embarqmail.com
On 3/5/2014 9:14 AM, roger...@comcast.net wrote: Kaleb, He is probably kin to one of those folks I've seen list a 123 300D as having a V-6 engine. Or that a 116 300SD has an inline 6 cylinder engine. It never surprises me how many people try to sell a vehicle without knowing what they've been

Re: [MBZ] I would sure love to know what the hell this guy is talking about

2014-03-05 Thread Rich Thomas
You can run it on straight used oil. Just go to MacD's and get a 5 gallon bucket from the fryer and pour it right in. --R (you get fries with that too) On 3/5/14 12:35 PM, G Mann wrote: And what kind of oil does it run on now, cooking oil? ___

Re: [MBZ] I would sure love to know what the hell this guy is talking about

2014-03-05 Thread rogerhga
Gerry, You may be right about this. On the other hand, if he has something that limited and special, don't you think he'd promote it more and ask more for it? Just doesn't seem to fit. Anyway, thanks for the history lesson. I was totally unaware of this info. Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale

Re: [MBZ] OM603 head immersion test

2014-03-05 Thread Curt Raymond
I probably don't really need a torch, a friend has one he'll let me use all I want if I fill the tanks... -Curt Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2014 11:45:34 -0600 From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OM603 head immersion test

Re: [MBZ] Hydraulic pump for 123 wagon suspension

2014-03-05 Thread Curt Raymond
I heard he has Billsteins too. -Curt Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2014 12:56:37 -0500 From: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hydraulic pump for 123 wagon suspension Message-ID: 69c6e1ec-9bb2-4fcb-9f65-f63600858...@penoff.com Content-Type:

Re: [MBZ] I would sure love to know what the hell this guy is talking about

2014-03-05 Thread Dieselhead
I remember the C111 with the wankel engine, and later testing what became the OM60x engines and turbos. They probably used it to test the OM617 turbo right after the wankel. There was a lot of Diesel development right after the fuel shortage of 1974 Ooops.. Sorry Gerry, You may be right

Re: [MBZ] Fuel prices?

2014-03-05 Thread Randy Bennell
On 05/03/2014 4:12 PM, Dieselhead wrote: There was a lot of Diesel development right after the fuel shortage of 1974 What are you seeing right now? Our fuel - gas and diesel went up about 11 or 12 cents per liter in the last day or two. $124.9 for regular gas on the sign I can see from

Re: [MBZ] Norwegian Air Shuttle Scheme

2014-03-05 Thread Mountain Man
Randy wrote: Are you certain you want innovation in aviation? Boeing was trying to do that with the 777 and has encountered issues that could be dangerous. 777 is not innovation as much as it is refinement. Yes, innovation in aviation would be interesting. Think of something other than

Re: [MBZ] Fuel prices?

2014-03-05 Thread Mountain Man
Randy wrote: Is this the result of the Ukraine and Russia issue? Totally. The rich gotta get richer instead of letting a few people live along with them on the planet. Putin is said to be the richest person on the planet by far. mao ___

Re: [MBZ] Fuel prices?

2014-03-05 Thread Dieselhead
What are you seeing right now? Our fuel - gas and diesel went up about 11 or 12 cents per liter in the last day or two. $124.9 for regular gas on the sign I can see from my office window. That makes it about $4.72 per US gallon or $5.62 per Imp gallon. Randy $340/US Gal right now. Up 40¢

Re: [MBZ] Futuristic Fuel prices?

2014-03-05 Thread Hendrik and Fay
You're living in the future, where all the MB parts vendors are bikini clad ex cheerleaders. Hendrik who is paying a fair bit for burny stuff On 06/03/14 12:07, Dieselhead wrote: What are you seeing right now? Our fuel - gas and diesel went up about 11 or 12 cents per liter in the last

Re: [MBZ] Leatherique

2014-03-05 Thread Craig
On Tue, 4 Mar 2014 22:52:58 -0500 Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: These figs are ornamental, and inedible. I love fresh figs and tried to grow them, but w/o success. Maybe these figs can be pressed to yield oil of leatherique, thus saving the cost of that automotive maintenance

[MBZ] OT - Electric Universe

2014-03-05 Thread Mountain Man
One of the tenets of Electric Universe theory is that for some reason in the relatively recent past, the Solar System was electrically energized to a level that exceeds today's experience by many orders of magnitude. Planets and moons were engulfed by plasma clouds that initiated lightning bolts

Re: [MBZ] Leatherique

2014-03-05 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Not sure if figs have any oil content. Perhaps their seeds.. On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 10:27 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Tue, 4 Mar 2014 22:52:58 -0500 Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: These figs are ornamental, and inedible. I love fresh figs and tried to

Re: [MBZ] Norwegian Air Shuttle Scheme

2014-03-05 Thread Craig
On Tue, 4 Mar 2014 22:53:48 -0600 Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: And then there's tort environs... still a total hindrance to innovation today. And money. Orvill Wilbur seemed to be able to do things on somewhat shoestring. Not too much since those halcyon days has been

Re: [MBZ] OM603 head immersion test

2014-03-05 Thread Craig
On Wed, 05 Mar 2014 10:45:36 -0600 Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: Very good. Second thought was, which way is he going to cut it? IE - like one would to make a big bbq like trough or crossways to make something like 2 big pails? I was thinking the big BBQ-like trough would

Re: [MBZ] Fuel prices?

2014-03-05 Thread Craig
On Wed, 5 Mar 2014 19:37:52 -0600 Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: What are you seeing right now? Our fuel - gas and diesel went up about 11 or 12 cents per liter in the last day or two. $124.9 for regular gas on the sign I can see from my office window. That makes it about $4.72

Re: [MBZ] OT - Electric Universe

2014-03-05 Thread Craig
On Wed, 5 Mar 2014 21:39:39 -0600 Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: One of the tenets of Electric Universe theory is that for some reason in the relatively recent past, the Solar System was electrically energized to a level that exceeds today's experience by many orders of magnitude.