[MBZ] CL Stoner of the day
http://seattle.craigslist.org/oly/cto/4554700421.html Since retail dope shops legally are selling, thought this guy must have over indulged clay 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately well tailored chap 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT - Cell Phone Stuff
Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com writes: I had a student a couple weeks ago on Republic. Sprint network when not using wi-fi right? Only a couple choices of phones too if I remember right. Still for the price I suspect its worth it. I don't think I have a contract with Verizon since my phone was grandfathered from the company. I should seriously think about dumping the big V and go with Republic. I had a Sprint phone before and the coverage was fine around here. I just bought the Moto G through Republic Wireless last month. Your other choice is Moto X. Yeah I guess that's limited compared to other carriers but how many different choices do you need in Android phones, really? It has the latest Android (KitKat) and a decent camera. It's my first smartphone. All in all I'm happy, so far. I'm on the $10/month for voice and text plan. It does use the Sprint network for cellular, and Wifi for data. Uses wifi for calls too when it can, which is great because cellular service is very marginal at my house. That was actually the main attraction of Republic for me. Calls over WiFi are not perfect, especially if a lot of other activity is happening on the network (e.g. a couple of kids on netflix or youtube). It's pretty agressive about falling back to cellular if WiFi quality is poor (this happens seamlessly) but I had to disable that on my home network because there's really no cellular to fall back to. Supposedly a good router with QoS capabilities can help, but if I have to go drop $200 on a new router I've defeated some of the savings. So I'm holding off, at least until I need a new router for some other reason. Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Gary, anyone you know?
Then Richarde would know the way, right? grin Dan On Jul 9, 2014, at 12:47 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: really more close to where dave stuttgart's place used to be don't know them ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] W124 Lower Engine cover
Yes, my 300D has 2 pans - one under the engine and another under the tranny. Wow! $20 for a W140 pan sounds like a awesome deal! I thought the pans were hard to come by or I would not have mentioned it. BTW I neglected to mention the seller was the company i bought my 1st Evaporator from - the one that leaked. I thought they would really give me a hard time but then ended up asking for a photo of the evap which I gave them with a arrow added to show the leak location.. I got the refund the same day that I sent the photo. One of these days I'll take that evap and my failed radiator to a scrap dealer and get a few bucks for them...too bad there's not another use for them - Larry On 7/8/2014 7:03 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: You can find an aftermarket one for less than that, I'll bet. I got the rear cover for my W140 from an online supplier and it was $20. Definitely not OE, but it fits and the holes line up. Can't ask for much more. Looks like the diesel W124 had two belly pans. Can anyone confirm this? Looking in the EPC I see a 124 520 95 23 and a 124 520 31 24. Dan On Jul 8, 2014, at 5:48 PM, LarryT l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: I recall some saying they had lost their engine/tranny shields along the way - found this one - the seller is very good to work with BTW. They're asking $114 last I looked. Didn't see the rear cover but maybe I just missed it? LarryT 91 300D http://www.ebay.com/itm/ENGINE-COMPARTMENT-SHIELD-FOR-MERCEDES-W124-A-124-524-15-30-/261416845040 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Another tire string?
A good choice IMHO. I used to run them on our subarus in upstate NY. On Jul 8, 2014 11:35 PM, arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Many thanks to Larry, and to Curt, for his further suggestions. Daughter and SIL have decided to go with Michelin All Season, and they send their thanks to all of you for your very helpful and valuable information and suggestions. Gerry . On 7/8/2014 6:05 PM, LarryT wrote: I agree with Tim - I live near Richmond Va - maybe 100 miles N of Raliegh and our winters are very similar to theirs. Last winter we had several days of snow and the schools closed even before it started falling! one day they closed the next day based on the weatherman prediction - he was off by about 12 hours so the kids had a day in the sunshine - but being a weatherman is like being a baseball player - hit .333 and you're a star! Of course not the predictions are made using 6+ weather predicting programs - and they still miss it! And they want us to believe they can tell us what it's going to do in 100 years? LarryT Curt wrote: Don't get me wrong proper snow tires, even cheap ones are worth their weight in gold when you're seriously in the snow but for somebody who doesn't live in the snowbelt they're probably excessive. I remember one time when it started snowing around noon. At 2pm the state (MA) suggested companies let their employees go home and loads of people did so it was just like evening commute but slowed due to the snow. It was snowing probably an inch an hour which is pretty good and amounting faster than the plows could keep up. My 1 hour commute turned into a 4 hour slog. I had my '85 190D 5spd which had just gotten its first set of snow tires. The guys who have been to my house can tell you about the big S curve on Rt2 that climbs and leans to the left. I found myself on there with a mid '90s Tunderbird in front and a Toyota 4wd pickup beside me. The guy in the Thunderbird was having a tough time, every time he gave it some gas the back end would break free and slam into the barrier between our lane and opposing traffic. The Toyota was having an equally tough time, he'd pointed his truck up the hill and was crabbing sideways up the road. I was having no difficulty at all, I had the 190D in 2nd and was idling up the hill. Finally the Thunderbird spun out, I nudged the go-pedal and navigated around him and just behind the Toyota. As I passed him the Toyota finally lost it and slid down the hill into the Thunderbird effectively blocking the entire road. I gave the 190D a little more go, grabbed third and never saw another vehicle behind me the rest of the way home. I already knew snow tires were worth it but after that I was completely sold. Thats with the cheapest no-name brand snow tires the tire store had, I can only imagine what real good snows are like. -Curt On 7/7/2014 10:12 PM, arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Time for another tire string? Very young grandson is working in Raleigh and needs winter tires. Can some of you folks who live in that area suggest a brand, type, etc. that would be best for a 2011 Honda Pilot? Also, I remember from several winters back that nearly everyone agreed that a certain tire made in (Sweden?), (Finland?) or another Nordic country was the absolute best snow and ice tire. It was very unusual to see nearly everyone agree on a tire discussion. Thanks, Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] CL Stoner of the day
Looks like a fairly nice car, but price is WAY too high, especially since its got some rust. On 7/9/2014 1:07 AM, clay wrote: http://seattle.craigslist.org/oly/cto/4554700421.html Since retail dope shops legally are selling, thought this guy must have over indulged clay 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately well tailored chap 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4716 / Virus Database: 3986/7820 - Release Date: 07/08/14 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] W124 Lower Engine cover
I checked the supplier I got my W140 pad from and they don't list any W124 pans, so I would go with this one. The dealer prices are pretty stiff, like $300/$400. Ouch. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jul 9, 2014, at 8:21 AM, LarryT l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: Yes, my 300D has 2 pans - one under the engine and another under the tranny. Wow! $20 for a W140 pan sounds like a awesome deal! I thought the pans were hard to come by or I would not have mentioned it. BTW I neglected to mention the seller was the company i bought my 1st Evaporator from - the one that leaked. I thought they would really give me a hard time but then ended up asking for a photo of the evap which I gave them with a arrow added to show the leak location.. I got the refund the same day that I sent the photo. One of these days I'll take that evap and my failed radiator to a scrap dealer and get a few bucks for them...too bad there's not another use for them - Larry On 7/8/2014 7:03 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: You can find an aftermarket one for less than that, I'll bet. I got the rear cover for my W140 from an online supplier and it was $20. Definitely not OE, but it fits and the holes line up. Can't ask for much more. Looks like the diesel W124 had two belly pans. Can anyone confirm this? Looking in the EPC I see a 124 520 95 23 and a 124 520 31 24. Dan On Jul 8, 2014, at 5:48 PM, LarryT l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: I recall some saying they had lost their engine/tranny shields along the way - found this one - the seller is very good to work with BTW. They're asking $114 last I looked. Didn't see the rear cover but maybe I just missed it? LarryT 91 300D http://www.ebay.com/itm/ENGINE-COMPARTMENT-SHIELD-FOR-MERCEDES-W124-A-124-524-15-30-/261416845040 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] CL Stoner of the day
On 09/07/2014 1:07 AM, clay wrote: http://seattle.craigslist.org/oly/cto/4554700421.html I think my car is in better shape. I also think I would take $8500 if someone twisted my arm. Are the old 115s going up in value? They appeared to be going down after I bought mine. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Not the best
Since its a glorious day I decided to take that Dodge with the Cummins for a ride. Out on the road it wanders like a bastard. Clearly something is loose in the front end. I didn't expect it to drive like an MB but better than this. I was also surprised how much pedal it took to get moving. On the plus side it shifts good on the minus it's LOUD. It's got a KN like air filter that I don't think is stock and while it doesn't seem to have the dreaded cracking 53 block the engine is pretty greasy. It also seems to have the stock fuel pump which isn't great if you want to keep the IP happy. Anyway I got maybe 5 minutes down the road and found a good open stretch so I pulled over to try it from a standing start. No sooner did the pedal touch the floor than it started to snort and buck. I got off it but the engine clearly wasn't happy. I found a space, pulled off and called 'em, your truck is broke. Turns out the owner (not the yard rat I'd talked to knew it was short on fuel. I'd noticed the light was on but the gauge is just under 1/8 so I figured it was okay. So here I sit with a dead truck. He says he's coming with fuel, we'll see how it goes. I should note I'm about a mile and a half from the closest station that carries diesel... Overall I recognize that this is twice the truck I need. Maybe I'll have better luck with his Dakota, if he lets me take it that is. Curt Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] CL Stoner of the day
They're always going down when you're looking to sell and up when you're looking to buy. :) Curt Sent from my iPhone On Jul 9, 2014, at 11:33 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: On 09/07/2014 1:07 AM, clay wrote: http://seattle.craigslist.org/oly/cto/4554700421.html I think my car is in better shape. I also think I would take $8500 if someone twisted my arm. Are the old 115s going up in value? They appeared to be going down after I bought mine. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] CL Stoner of the day
Probably true. Supply and demand has a lot to do with it too I guess. I bought mine here where there are very few. You folks were buying them cheap down in the USA where there tended to be a lot more of them. I suspect, unfortunately, that there are a lot fewer now as people don't take care of them and treat them as beaters or try to run the waste oil through them and beat them up in that manner. Randy On 09/07/2014 11:07 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: They're always going down when you're looking to sell and up when you're looking to buy. :) Curt Sent from my iPhone On Jul 9, 2014, at 11:33 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: On 09/07/2014 1:07 AM, clay wrote: http://seattle.craigslist.org/oly/cto/4554700421.html I think my car is in better shape. I also think I would take $8500 if someone twisted my arm. Are the old 115s going up in value? They appeared to be going down after I bought mine. Randy ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] adjusting valves
I have no real fear of doing it. It is a bit of a dirty job but I have become a nitrile glove believer so I should avoid getting black fingers if I am careful. I have done valve adjustments on many vehicles over the years but never on the diesel. It no doubt has needed it for a long while and I hope to notice a difference. One of the issues is hard starting once it starts to cool off in the fall and I believe that is an indication that the valves are likely too tight. Randy On 08/07/2014 7:45 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: Randy, I avoided this job for a long time having my Indy do it instead. I finally tackled it last summer on my '78 240D. I don't know what kept me all these years it was super easy. I think I followed the Diesel Giant procedure but they're all about the same: http://dieselgiant.com/valveadjustment.htm I kept note of the measurement and then what change I'd made. http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz353/curtludwig/9784EDB2-F16D-466E-8C4E-1ABBEAA6A73E-187-0010168BCAFD_zpse8386f7e.jpg I was frankly amazed by how much quieter the engine was when I was done and I only did it with my normal set of wrenches although I did buy a nice big set of feeler gauges. -Curt From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, July 8, 2014 6:08 PM Subject: [MBZ] adjusting valves I have been more than a bit negligent in terms of keeping the valves set on my old 300D. I bought the tools and the new gasket but have yet to do it. I was thinking about it this past weekend and did a bit of searching online. The advice offered was pretty loose. My past experience with gas engines required one to turn to the specific timing marks etc. The advice offered on the diesels seemed to be just to turn the cam so that the point sticks up. Is that considered close enough? I have never disconnected the throttle linkage? I seem to recall someone suggested one just pops them apart by prying with a screwdriver? Is that correct? I really don't want to damage anything by my own lack of knowledge on how to do it. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Not the best
Probably not the best idea to buy it if you don't really need it. I really wanted to try a diesel truck but I really do not need a 3/4 ton and so I stayed away. I am hopeful that the new 1/2 ton Dodge with the smaller diesel will prove to be a good truck and that the other manufacturers will get on board and start producing something similar. Although, it is hard to complain about the gas engines these days. My 02 F150 had no real issues with the engine and so far I like the engine in the 2013 F150. Not sure the diesel would be any cheaper to run these days with diesel costing more than gasoline. Randy On 09/07/2014 11:06 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: Since its a glorious day I decided to take that Dodge with the Cummins for a ride. Out on the road it wanders like a bastard. Clearly something is loose in the front end. I didn't expect it to drive like an MB but better than this. I was also surprised how much pedal it took to get moving. On the plus side it shifts good on the minus it's LOUD. It's got a KN like air filter that I don't think is stock and while it doesn't seem to have the dreaded cracking 53 block the engine is pretty greasy. It also seems to have the stock fuel pump which isn't great if you want to keep the IP happy. Anyway I got maybe 5 minutes down the road and found a good open stretch so I pulled over to try it from a standing start. No sooner did the pedal touch the floor than it started to snort and buck. I got off it but the engine clearly wasn't happy. I found a space, pulled off and called 'em, your truck is broke. Turns out the owner (not the yard rat I'd talked to knew it was short on fuel. I'd noticed the light was on but the gauge is just under 1/8 so I figured it was okay. So here I sit with a dead truck. He says he's coming with fuel, we'll see how it goes. I should note I'm about a mile and a half from the closest station that carries diesel... Overall I recognize that this is twice the truck I need. Maybe I'll have better luck with his Dakota, if he lets me take it that is. Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Whiskers - was: Springy compressor
YOU are going to get yourself in trouble! Randy On 08/07/2014 7:54 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: In my youth it was always a cremoved for a family list hair. I might be tempted to say a beaver's whisker. -Curt Who believes that the beaver is a proud and noble part of a woman's anatomy. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] More important things than Re: Whiskers - was: Springy compressor
I brewed a batch of hoppy brown ale on Sunday, my buddy made a porter or a stout or something, it is dark. His started foaming quite quickly after I pitched the yeast but mine was doing nothing. So on Monday I took a coupla ounces from his carboy and put it in mine, within an hour it was starting to bubble and has been going big. Not sure what kind of yeast he had, but whatever... Science! My stash is getting low, I have a few bottles of porter left, a Bells Two-hearted IPA clone, and some of the IPA I brewed with cherry wood shavings from milling up wood for my cabinets, and fermented separately. The CherryPA is amazing, very subtle aromatic cherry flavor and the basic beer is really good too on these warm summer's eves (and it smells good too, very fresh!). I have one liter bottle of Oatmeal Stout left that I made in December I should probably drink... --R On 7/8/14 8:43 PM, Hendrik and Fay wrote: Hendrik who bottled up his homebrew yesterday, not quite 99 bottles of beer on the wall, closer to 93 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Need a MOG?
Ran when parked --R On 7/9/14 1:57 AM, clay wrote: http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/4559119793.html No interest, no magic clay 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately well tailored chap 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Whiskers - was: Springy compressor
Sort of like the a World Cup game - lost by a Brazilian. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jul 8, 2014, at 8:54 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: In my youth it was always a cremoved for a family list hair. I might be tempted to say a beaver's whisker. -Curt Who believes that the beaver is a proud and noble part of a woman's anatomy. From: Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, July 8, 2014 8:43 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Whiskers - was: Springy compressor Yeah that's the PG version of measuring https://www.macquariedictionary.com.au/resources/aus/word/map/search/word/bee's%20whisker/Adelaide%20Region/ https://www.macquariedictionary.com.au/resources/aus/word/map/search/word/bee%27s%20whisker/Adelaide%20Region/ Hendrik who bottled up his homebrew yesterday, not quite 99 bottles of beer on the wall, closer to 93 On 09/07/14 03:12, Fmiser wrote: Hendrik wrote: ... is too small by a bees whisker... Huh! I never knew that bees even _had_ whiskers! It's a good day when I get to learn something. *smiles* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] adjusting valves
I used to make a little map of the valves and cross them out as I did them. Made it easy to keep track of what I had done and kept me from missing one. I also did all the intakes at one time and then all the exhausts. That way you're working with the same set of gauges. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jul 8, 2014, at 9:56 PM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: I would add that the gap will change as you tighten the jam nut. So measure the gap before you loosen it. Guess at the required adjustment and do it then retighten and measure. After a few valves you'll get good at guessing and dial each one in with only one or two attempts. Also, I make a picture of the valves and write down the before and after gaps for each valve. That way I don't miss any or double adjust any. It's also interesting to see how much adjustment was needed. Also, wear plastic (like nitrile) gloves; Diesel oil stains. Scott -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Randy Bennell Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 6:08 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] adjusting valves I have been more than a bit negligent in terms of keeping the valves set on my old 300D. I bought the tools and the new gasket but have yet to do it. I was thinking about it this past weekend and did a bit of searching online. The advice offered was pretty loose. My past experience with gas engines required one to turn to the specific timing marks etc. The advice offered on the diesels seemed to be just to turn the cam so that the point sticks up. Is that considered close enough? I have never disconnected the throttle linkage? I seem to recall someone suggested one just pops them apart by prying with a screwdriver? Is that correct? I really don't want to damage anything by my own lack of knowledge on how to do it. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Need a MOG?
owned by an older couple. What a relief. I thought maybe a bunch of crazy reckless younger folks might have owned this hot rod, peeling rubber all over the place. On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 12:31 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Ran when parked --R On 7/9/14 1:57 AM, clay wrote: http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/4559119793.html No interest, no magic clay 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately well tailored chap 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] adjusting valves
I don't recall if it's been mentioned but (1) always turn the crank shaft in the direction of normal rotation and (2) it's easiest to turn the crank shaft by turning the power steering pump nut (vs the actual crank shaft nut). This should work if the belt tension is correct. While you are there, check chain stretch by aligning the marks on the cam tower and sprocket and reading the number on the timing pulley in the crankshaft. Do it several times to get a reliable number. Scott -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan Penoff Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2014 12:35 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] adjusting valves I used to make a little map of the valves and cross them out as I did them. Made it easy to keep track of what I had done and kept me from missing one. I also did all the intakes at one time and then all the exhausts. That way you're working with the same set of gauges. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jul 8, 2014, at 9:56 PM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: I would add that the gap will change as you tighten the jam nut. So measure the gap before you loosen it. Guess at the required adjustment and do it then retighten and measure. After a few valves you'll get good at guessing and dial each one in with only one or two attempts. Also, I make a picture of the valves and write down the before and after gaps for each valve. That way I don't miss any or double adjust any. It's also interesting to see how much adjustment was needed. Also, wear plastic (like nitrile) gloves; Diesel oil stains. Scott -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Randy Bennell Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 6:08 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] adjusting valves I have been more than a bit negligent in terms of keeping the valves set on my old 300D. I bought the tools and the new gasket but have yet to do it. I was thinking about it this past weekend and did a bit of searching online. The advice offered was pretty loose. My past experience with gas engines required one to turn to the specific timing marks etc. The advice offered on the diesels seemed to be just to turn the cam so that the point sticks up. Is that considered close enough? I have never disconnected the throttle linkage? I seem to recall someone suggested one just pops them apart by prying with a screwdriver? Is that correct? I really don't want to damage anything by my own lack of knowledge on how to do it. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Not the best
Is this not the pot calling the kettle black? You don't NEED a pickup at all, a car with a trailer would do you fine. You WANTED a truck which is something I can totally understand. The Dodge was way more truck than I need and we probably could get away with a car or small SUV but considering the mpg penalty of 4wd (not AWD, a softroader won't do) anyway a pickup is really handy. So the story ends that it was just out of fuel. The guy came with fuel and then we had to purge it. He'd been through this before and the yard monkey wasn't supposed to let me drive it in the first place. Apparently the gauge is optimistic. Truck drives a lot better with fuel in, it felt much more powerful and was easier to drive once I got used to it but it still needed front end work. Just when I felt like I had everything under control it would go all over the road... I sat in a Dakota at the same place but it was blocked in and the guy was already having a bad day so I decided to leave it. The tailgate doesn't have any non-broken hold up straps and wouldn't stay latched. The engine makes a funny little noise which might be just the belt, but the AC blows ICE COLD (which the diesel Ram didn't). It appears to be AWD with 4wd as an option which I thought was odd. Instant fuel mileage reads 12mpg which if its really AWD considering it has a 360ci is probably right. All in all I think this is probably pushing me back toward a new truck. -Curt From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, July 9, 2014 12:25 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Not the best Probably not the best idea to buy it if you don't really need it. I really wanted to try a diesel truck but I really do not need a 3/4 ton and so I stayed away. I am hopeful that the new 1/2 ton Dodge with the smaller diesel will prove to be a good truck and that the other manufacturers will get on board and start producing something similar. Although, it is hard to complain about the gas engines these days. My 02 F150 had no real issues with the engine and so far I like the engine in the 2013 F150. Not sure the diesel would be any cheaper to run these days with diesel costing more than gasoline. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Whiskers - was: Springy compressor
HA! From: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, July 9, 2014 12:36 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Whiskers - was: Springy compressor Sort of like the a World Cup game - lost by a Brazilian. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jul 8, 2014, at 8:54 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: In my youth it was always a cremoved for a family list hair. I might be tempted to say a beaver's whisker. -Curt Who believes that the beaver is a proud and noble part of a woman's anatomy. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Not the best
Speaking of trucks, the other day I saw a newish small-to-midsized pickup with SUZUKI on the tailgate. I had never seen one before in the US, did not even know they had them. It was a nice looking smaller truck, this one was a dark red sorta maroon color, very attractive. Ah, it's a Nissan rebadged. http://www.thecarconnection.com/overview/suzuki_equator_2013 --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Not the best
Sadly... No More Equator: Suzuki Declares Bankruptcy - PickupTrucks.com News I think it actually looks better than the Nissan. Wonder if I can get one cheap. -Curt From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, July 9, 2014 1:56 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Not the best Speaking of trucks, the other day I saw a newish small-to-midsized pickup with SUZUKI on the tailgate. I had never seen one before in the US, did not even know they had them. It was a nice looking smaller truck, this one was a dark red sorta maroon color, very attractive. Ah, it's a Nissan rebadged. http://www.thecarconnection.com/overview/suzuki_equator_2013 --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] CL Stoner of the day
Given there were a number of other /8 up on CL for far less, this guy was toking hard on the pipe. clay On Jul 9, 2014, at 6:31 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Looks like a fairly nice car, but price is WAY too high, especially since its got some rust. On 7/9/2014 1:07 AM, clay wrote: http://seattle.craigslist.org/oly/cto/4554700421.html Since retail dope shops legally are selling, thought this guy must have over indulged clay 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately well tailored chap 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4716 / Virus Database: 3986/7820 - Release Date: 07/08/14 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] CL Stoner of the day
The guy thinks the waste oil tank increases the value of the car. All it does is kill the engine much faster. And he bought an electric car instead of using this. Poseur. A know nothing eco freak with a pork pie hat and ironic t-shirt clay On Jul 9, 2014, at 8:33 AM, Randy Bennell wrote: On 09/07/2014 1:07 AM, clay wrote: http://seattle.craigslist.org/oly/cto/4554700421.html I think my car is in better shape. I also think I would take $8500 if someone twisted my arm. Are the old 115s going up in value? They appeared to be going down after I bought mine. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] More important things than Re: Whiskers - was: Springy compressor
I just cleaned up a carbonation explosion. Mead was a bit too happy and took out three bottles. Decanted the rest and am allowing it to calm down in the carboy for a few weeks. Shrapnel was confined to the wooden storage case. I am collecting fresh cherries for a lambic at the moment. clay On Jul 9, 2014, at 9:30 AM, Rich Thomas wrote: I brewed a batch of hoppy brown ale on Sunday, my buddy made a porter or a stout or something, it is dark. His started foaming quite quickly after I pitched the yeast but mine was doing nothing. So on Monday I took a coupla ounces from his carboy and put it in mine, within an hour it was starting to bubble and has been going big. Not sure what kind of yeast he had, but whatever... Science! My stash is getting low, I have a few bottles of porter left, a Bells Two-hearted IPA clone, and some of the IPA I brewed with cherry wood shavings from milling up wood for my cabinets, and fermented separately. The CherryPA is amazing, very subtle aromatic cherry flavor and the basic beer is really good too on these warm summer's eves (and it smells good too, very fresh!). I have one liter bottle of Oatmeal Stout left that I made in December I should probably drink... --R On 7/8/14 8:43 PM, Hendrik and Fay wrote: Hendrik who bottled up his homebrew yesterday, not quite 99 bottles of beer on the wall, closer to 93 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Need a MOG?
I am wondering what sort of covert telecom action the old folks were up to. Maybe outlying post of the NSA spying on the Bagwan Sri Ragneesh? clay On Jul 9, 2014, at 9:42 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: owned by an older couple. What a relief. I thought maybe a bunch of crazy reckless younger folks might have owned this hot rod, peeling rubber all over the place. On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 12:31 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Ran when parked --R On 7/9/14 1:57 AM, clay wrote: http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/4559119793.html No interest, no magic clay 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately well tailored chap 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] K'Leb needs to bring a trailer
http://atlanta.craigslist.org/nat/ptd/4555466680.html The green car is really pretty clay 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately well tailored chap 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] adjusting valves
It helps to have a clicker as well. I used to adjust the valves on my 123 wagons at MBCA tech sessions, under supervision of course. On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 1:16 PM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: I don't recall if it's been mentioned but (1) always turn the crank shaft in the direction of normal rotation and (2) it's easiest to turn the crank shaft by turning the power steering pump nut (vs the actual crank shaft nut). This should work if the belt tension is correct. While you are there, check chain stretch by aligning the marks on the cam tower and sprocket and reading the number on the timing pulley in the crankshaft. Do it several times to get a reliable number. Scott -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan Penoff Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2014 12:35 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] adjusting valves I used to make a little map of the valves and cross them out as I did them. Made it easy to keep track of what I had done and kept me from missing one. I also did all the intakes at one time and then all the exhausts. That way you're working with the same set of gauges. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jul 8, 2014, at 9:56 PM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: I would add that the gap will change as you tighten the jam nut. So measure the gap before you loosen it. Guess at the required adjustment and do it then retighten and measure. After a few valves you'll get good at guessing and dial each one in with only one or two attempts. Also, I make a picture of the valves and write down the before and after gaps for each valve. That way I don't miss any or double adjust any. It's also interesting to see how much adjustment was needed. Also, wear plastic (like nitrile) gloves; Diesel oil stains. Scott -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Randy Bennell Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 6:08 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] adjusting valves I have been more than a bit negligent in terms of keeping the valves set on my old 300D. I bought the tools and the new gasket but have yet to do it. I was thinking about it this past weekend and did a bit of searching online. The advice offered was pretty loose. My past experience with gas engines required one to turn to the specific timing marks etc. The advice offered on the diesels seemed to be just to turn the cam so that the point sticks up. Is that considered close enough? I have never disconnected the throttle linkage? I seem to recall someone suggested one just pops them apart by prying with a screwdriver? Is that correct? I really don't want to damage anything by my own lack of knowledge on how to do it. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go
Re: [MBZ] K'Leb needs to bring a trailer
Yeah, one of my wagons is diamond blue. Very pretty! Are they selling the entire lot for free? On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 3:04 PM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: http://atlanta.craigslist.org/nat/ptd/4555466680.html The green car is really pretty clay 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately well tailored chap 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Need a MOG?
Don't be hatin on my boy Bagwan. That dude had like 30 Rollers and a bunch of ladies to keep him company 24x7, didn't have to do nuffin but tell them what they wanted to hear. But the IRS put an end to his party I think? --R On 7/9/14 2:47 PM, clay wrote: I am wondering what sort of covert telecom action the old folks were up to. Maybe outlying post of the NSA spying on the Bagwan Sri Ragneesh? clay On Jul 9, 2014, at 9:42 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: owned by an older couple. What a relief. I thought maybe a bunch of crazy reckless younger folks might have owned this hot rod, peeling rubber all over the place. On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 12:31 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Ran when parked --R On 7/9/14 1:57 AM, clay wrote: http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/4559119793.html No interest, no magic clay 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately well tailored chap 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] CL Stoner of the day
Wow, that is some new stereotype! Sure you don't mean iconic T shirt? On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 2:42 PM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: The guy thinks the waste oil tank increases the value of the car. All it does is kill the engine much faster. And he bought an electric car instead of using this. Poseur. A know nothing eco freak with a pork pie hat and ironic t-shirt clay On Jul 9, 2014, at 8:33 AM, Randy Bennell wrote: On 09/07/2014 1:07 AM, clay wrote: http://seattle.craigslist.org/oly/cto/4554700421.html I think my car is in better shape. I also think I would take $8500 if someone twisted my arm. Are the old 115s going up in value? They appeared to be going down after I bought mine. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] adjusting valves
Clicker? -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Strasfogel Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2014 3:05 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] adjusting valves It helps to have a clicker as well. I used to adjust the valves on my 123 wagons at MBCA tech sessions, under supervision of course. On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 1:16 PM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: I don't recall if it's been mentioned but (1) always turn the crank shaft in the direction of normal rotation and (2) it's easiest to turn the crank shaft by turning the power steering pump nut (vs the actual crank shaft nut). This should work if the belt tension is correct. While you are there, check chain stretch by aligning the marks on the cam tower and sprocket and reading the number on the timing pulley in the crankshaft. Do it several times to get a reliable number. Scott ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] adjusting valves
Yeah. It's the remote starter you hook up to turn the engine to align properly when you've finished adjusting each valve. Andrew DIesel emeritus On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 3:18 PM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: Clicker? -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Strasfogel Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2014 3:05 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] adjusting valves It helps to have a clicker as well. I used to adjust the valves on my 123 wagons at MBCA tech sessions, under supervision of course. On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 1:16 PM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: I don't recall if it's been mentioned but (1) always turn the crank shaft in the direction of normal rotation and (2) it's easiest to turn the crank shaft by turning the power steering pump nut (vs the actual crank shaft nut). This should work if the belt tension is correct. While you are there, check chain stretch by aligning the marks on the cam tower and sprocket and reading the number on the timing pulley in the crankshaft. Do it several times to get a reliable number. Scott ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] CL Stoner of the day
Hipster? Maybe he's sporting a messenger bag, too? Dan Sent from my iPad On Jul 9, 2014, at 3:07 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Wow, that is some new stereotype! Sure you don't mean iconic T shirt? On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 2:42 PM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: The guy thinks the waste oil tank increases the value of the car. All it does is kill the engine much faster. And he bought an electric car instead of using this. Poseur. A know nothing eco freak with a pork pie hat and ironic t-shirt clay On Jul 9, 2014, at 8:33 AM, Randy Bennell wrote: On 09/07/2014 1:07 AM, clay wrote: http://seattle.craigslist.org/oly/cto/4554700421.html I think my car is in better shape. I also think I would take $8500 if someone twisted my arm. Are the old 115s going up in value? They appeared to be going down after I bought mine. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] adjusting valves
Oh. I can position the cam shaft faster and more precisely by slowly turning the PS pump pulley with a socket wrench. In my experience, it's hard to get the crank exactly where you want it with the starter because of piston compression and starter overshoot. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Strasfogel Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2014 3:25 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] adjusting valves Yeah. It's the remote starter you hook up to turn the engine to align properly when you've finished adjusting each valve. Andrew DIesel emeritus On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 3:18 PM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: Clicker? -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Strasfogel Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2014 3:05 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] adjusting valves It helps to have a clicker as well. I used to adjust the valves on my 123 wagons at MBCA tech sessions, under supervision of course. On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 1:16 PM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: I don't recall if it's been mentioned but (1) always turn the crank shaft in the direction of normal rotation and (2) it's easiest to turn the crank shaft by turning the power steering pump nut (vs the actual crank shaft nut). This should work if the belt tension is correct. While you are there, check chain stretch by aligning the marks on the cam tower and sprocket and reading the number on the timing pulley in the crankshaft. Do it several times to get a reliable number. Scott ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] CL Stoner of the day
My 1976 300D that I owned in 1983 - 1984 had an auxiliary fuel tank in the trunk, holding 12 or 15 gallons IIRC. Only needed to fillerup once per month. Nice car, although it had high maintenance costs because the PO had turned back the odometer. On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 3:27 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Hipster? Maybe he's sporting a messenger bag, too? Dan Sent from my iPad On Jul 9, 2014, at 3:07 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Wow, that is some new stereotype! Sure you don't mean iconic T shirt? On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 2:42 PM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: The guy thinks the waste oil tank increases the value of the car. All it does is kill the engine much faster. And he bought an electric car instead of using this. Poseur. A know nothing eco freak with a pork pie hat and ironic t-shirt clay On Jul 9, 2014, at 8:33 AM, Randy Bennell wrote: On 09/07/2014 1:07 AM, clay wrote: http://seattle.craigslist.org/oly/cto/4554700421.html I think my car is in better shape. I also think I would take $8500 if someone twisted my arm. Are the old 115s going up in value? They appeared to be going down after I bought mine. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] adjusting valves
That requires way too much effort IMO. On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 3:31 PM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: Oh. I can position the cam shaft faster and more precisely by slowly turning the PS pump pulley with a socket wrench. In my experience, it's hard to get the crank exactly where you want it with the starter because of piston compression and starter overshoot. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Strasfogel Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2014 3:25 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] adjusting valves Yeah. It's the remote starter you hook up to turn the engine to align properly when you've finished adjusting each valve. Andrew DIesel emeritus On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 3:18 PM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: Clicker? -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Strasfogel Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2014 3:05 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] adjusting valves It helps to have a clicker as well. I used to adjust the valves on my 123 wagons at MBCA tech sessions, under supervision of course. On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 1:16 PM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: I don't recall if it's been mentioned but (1) always turn the crank shaft in the direction of normal rotation and (2) it's easiest to turn the crank shaft by turning the power steering pump nut (vs the actual crank shaft nut). This should work if the belt tension is correct. While you are there, check chain stretch by aligning the marks on the cam tower and sprocket and reading the number on the timing pulley in the crankshaft. Do it several times to get a reliable number. Scott ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] adjusting valves
Either you're making a strange joke or you're the strangest person I know. Its too much work to put a ratchet on the power steering pump? You only rotate the engine a little each time, how much work could it possibly be? Hooking up the remote starter is way more work. -Curt From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, July 9, 2014 3:37 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] adjusting valves That requires way too much effort IMO. On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 3:31 PM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: Oh. I can position the cam shaft faster and more precisely by slowly turning the PS pump pulley with a socket wrench. In my experience, it's hard to get the crank exactly where you want it with the starter because of piston compression and starter overshoot. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Strasfogel Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2014 3:25 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] adjusting valves Yeah. It's the remote starter you hook up to turn the engine to align properly when you've finished adjusting each valve. Andrew DIesel emeritus On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 3:18 PM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: Clicker? -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Strasfogel Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2014 3:05 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] adjusting valves It helps to have a clicker as well. I used to adjust the valves on my 123 wagons at MBCA tech sessions, under supervision of course. On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 1:16 PM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: I don't recall if it's been mentioned but (1) always turn the crank shaft in the direction of normal rotation and (2) it's easiest to turn the crank shaft by turning the power steering pump nut (vs the actual crank shaft nut). This should work if the belt tension is correct. While you are there, check chain stretch by aligning the marks on the cam tower and sprocket and reading the number on the timing pulley in the crankshaft. Do it several times to get a reliable number. Scott ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] adjusting valves
Y'mean the one that accidentally starts the engine if you don't have the STOP lever tied down? Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred. Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2014 15:25:07 -0400 From: astrasfo...@gmail.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] adjusting valves Yeah. It's the remote starter you hook up to turn the engine to align properly when you've finished adjusting each valve. Andrew DIesel emeritus On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 3:18 PM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: Clicker? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] adjusting valves
That's the one! Seriously, if the battery is disconnected there is nothing to worry about,. Right? On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 3:54 PM, Fred Moir fredh.s...@hotmail.com wrote: Y'mean the one that accidentally starts the engine if you don't have the STOP lever tied down? Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred. Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2014 15:25:07 -0400 From: astrasfo...@gmail.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] adjusting valves Yeah. It's the remote starter you hook up to turn the engine to align properly when you've finished adjusting each valve. Andrew DIesel emeritus On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 3:18 PM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: Clicker? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] adjusting valves
Then you have to turn it with the PS pump pulley nut. Back to where we started... --R On 7/9/14 4:00 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: That's the one! Seriously, if the battery is disconnected there is nothing to worry about,. Right? On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 3:54 PM, Fred Moir fredh.s...@hotmail.com wrote: Y'mean the one that accidentally starts the engine if you don't have the STOP lever tied down? Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred. Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2014 15:25:07 -0400 From: astrasfo...@gmail.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] adjusting valves Yeah. It's the remote starter you hook up to turn the engine to align properly when you've finished adjusting each valve. Andrew DIesel emeritus On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 3:18 PM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: Clicker? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] K'Leb needs to bring a trailer
Is that a pink one next to the S123? Hendrik who has never owned a pink car On 10/07/14 04:34, clay wrote: http://atlanta.craigslist.org/nat/ptd/4555466680.html The green car is really pretty clay ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] More important things than Re: Whiskers - was: Springy compressor
Well that calls for a minute silence to remember the fallen. Hendrik who has had a couple of blow outs in the past On 10/07/14 04:16, clay wrote: I just cleaned up a carbonation explosion. Mead was a bit too happy and took out three bottles. Decanted the rest and am allowing it to calm down in the carboy for a few weeks. Shrapnel was confined to the wooden storage case. I am collecting fresh cherries for a lambic at the moment. clay ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Whiskers - was: Springy compressor
http://hughmacleod.com/?p=888 Hendrik who is off to Queensland for a few days On 10/07/14 02:06, Dan Penoff wrote: Sort of like the a World Cup game - lost by a Brazilian. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] adjusting valves
I think Andrew has been living too close to our Nation's Capitol for too long. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Strasfogel Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2014 4:00 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] adjusting valves That's the one! Seriously, if the battery is disconnected there is nothing to worry about,. Right? On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 3:54 PM, Fred Moir fredh.s...@hotmail.com wrote: Y'mean the one that accidentally starts the engine if you don't have the STOP lever tied down? Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred. Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2014 15:25:07 -0400 From: astrasfo...@gmail.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] adjusting valves Yeah. It's the remote starter you hook up to turn the engine to align properly when you've finished adjusting each valve. Andrew DIesel emeritus On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 3:18 PM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: Clicker? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] adjusting valves
Andrew, et al.Just call me Frodo.(3 fingers) Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred. Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2014 16:00:03 -0400 From: astrasfo...@gmail.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] adjusting valves That's the one! Seriously, if the battery is disconnected there is nothing to worry about,. Right? On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 3:54 PM, Fred Moir fredh.s...@hotmail.com wrote: Y'mean the one that accidentally starts the engine if you don't have the STOP lever tied down? Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Whiskers - was: Springy compressor
I thought you lived in Queensland. On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 4:16 PM, Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com wrote: http://hughmacleod.com/?p=888 Hendrik who is off to Queensland for a few days On 10/07/14 02:06, Dan Penoff wrote: Sort of like the a World Cup game - lost by a Brazilian. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] adjusting valves
Ouch. On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 4:38 PM, Fred Moir fredh.s...@hotmail.com wrote: Andrew, et al.Just call me Frodo.(3 fingers) Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred. Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2014 16:00:03 -0400 From: astrasfo...@gmail.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] adjusting valves That's the one! Seriously, if the battery is disconnected there is nothing to worry about,. Right? On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 3:54 PM, Fred Moir fredh.s...@hotmail.com wrote: Y'mean the one that accidentally starts the engine if you don't have the STOP lever tied down? Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] adjusting valves
E: All of the Above --R On 7/9/14 3:40 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: Either you're making a strange joke or you're the strangest person I know. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Membership being suspended for excessive bounces
All of Curt's emails go into my spam folder automatically. Why is that? On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 8:52 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Yahoo throws yours in the can too, presumably from retribution. :) I had been retrieving them using the iPhone's built in mail app but lately I've been using Yahoo's web interface and saying not spam which will maybe get them to figure out you're okay. I may also try adding each of you to my address book. There aren't that many people on the list after all. Yahoo almost always throws Poo's emails in spam if he's the originator, usually not if he's replying. -Curt From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, July 8, 2014 5:48 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Membership being suspended for excessive bounces Gmail is still throwing all of Curt's posts in the spam can. On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 4:37 PM, Fred Moir fredh.s...@hotmail.com wrote: LarryT.I just received another unsub. notice, re-enable, rinse, repeat, ad nauseum. My guess is that the various email vendors won't play nice with the rest. Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred. Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2014 12:30:40 -0400 From: l02tur...@comcast.net To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Membership being suspended for excessive bounces I forgot what kind of resolution there is for this problem.I've been following the link and re-enabling my subscription but would like something a little more permanent. Or am I out of luck and should just keep re-enabling as requested? Thanks! LarryT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Membership being suspended for excessive bounces
Yahoo and Google and Microsoft (Hotmail) apparently all hate each other. Actually I think its caused by the list-bot forwarding my mail and Google realizing that its not really from me since its coming from the list-bot. Why Google doesn't just do that for everybody is the weird part. Maybe add me as a contact and see if that makes a difference. Or click the not spam button a few times and see if it learns. Yahoo seems to be learning. -Curt From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, July 9, 2014 5:02 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Membership being suspended for excessive bounces All of Curt's emails go into my spam folder automatically. Why is that? On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 8:52 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Yahoo throws yours in the can too, presumably from retribution. :) I had been retrieving them using the iPhone's built in mail app but lately I've been using Yahoo's web interface and saying not spam which will maybe get them to figure out you're okay. I may also try adding each of you to my address book. There aren't that many people on the list after all. Yahoo almost always throws Poo's emails in spam if he's the originator, usually not if he's replying. -Curt From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, July 8, 2014 5:48 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Membership being suspended for excessive bounces Gmail is still throwing all of Curt's posts in the spam can. On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 4:37 PM, Fred Moir fredh.s...@hotmail.com wrote: LarryT.I just received another unsub. notice, re-enable, rinse, repeat, ad nauseum. My guess is that the various email vendors won't play nice with the rest. Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred. Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2014 12:30:40 -0400 From: l02tur...@comcast.net To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Membership being suspended for excessive bounces I forgot what kind of resolution there is for this problem. I've been following the link and re-enabling my subscription but would like something a little more permanent. Or am I out of luck and should just keep re-enabling as requested? Thanks! LarryT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the
Re: [MBZ] Membership being suspended for excessive bounces
Hey, Curt.That one got through.I think you have the security apparatcnik's attention. Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred. Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2014 14:06:14 -0700 From: curtlud...@yahoo.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Membership being suspended for excessive bounces Yahoo and Google and Microsoft (Hotmail) apparently all hate each other. Actually I think its caused by the list-bot forwarding my mail and Google realizing that its not really from me since its coming from the list-bot. Why Google doesn't just do that for everybody is the weird part. Maybe add me as a contact and see if that makes a difference. Or click the not spam button a few times and see if it learns. Yahoo seems to be learning. -Curt From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, July 9, 2014 5:02 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Membership being suspended for excessive bounces All of Curt's emails go into my spam folder automatically. Why is that? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Membership being suspended for excessive bounces
I'm not sure thats something I want... From: Fred Moir fredh.s...@hotmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, July 9, 2014 5:10 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Membership being suspended for excessive bounces Hey, Curt.That one got through.I think you have the security apparatcnik's attention. Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred. Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2014 14:06:14 -0700 From: curtlud...@yahoo.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Membership being suspended for excessive bounces Yahoo and Google and Microsoft (Hotmail) apparently all hate each other. Actually I think its caused by the list-bot forwarding my mail and Google realizing that its not really from me since its coming from the list-bot. Why Google doesn't just do that for everybody is the weird part. Maybe add me as a contact and see if that makes a difference. Or click the not spam button a few times and see if it learns. Yahoo seems to be learning. -Curt From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, July 9, 2014 5:02 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Membership being suspended for excessive bounces All of Curt's emails go into my spam folder automatically. Why is that? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Membership being suspended for excessive bounces
A noony maus, me. Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred. Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2014 14:19:38 -0700 From: curtlud...@yahoo.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Membership being suspended for excessive bounces I'm not sure thats something I want... From: Fred Moir fredh.s...@hotmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, July 9, 2014 5:10 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Membership being suspended for excessive bounces Hey, Curt.That one got through.I think you have the security apparatcnik's attention. Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred. Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2014 14:06:14 -0700 From: curtlud...@yahoo.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Membership being suspended for excessive bounces Yahoo and Google and Microsoft (Hotmail) apparently all hate each other. Actually I think its caused by the list-bot forwarding my mail and Google realizing that its not really from me since its coming from the list-bot. Why Google doesn't just do that for everybody is the weird part. Maybe add me as a contact and see if that makes a difference. Or click the not spam button a few times and see if it learns. Yahoo seems to be learning. -Curt From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, July 9, 2014 5:02 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Membership being suspended for excessive bounces All of Curt's emails go into my spam folder automatically. Why is that? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Not the best
NEED is a term that requires defining. I have made 5 trips to the lake so far since May. It is about 175 miles each way. We are always hauling something in one direction or the other. The cottage is old and I am trying to renovate but it is a slow process. My mother stays out there all summer but is 82 now so I don't want her to worry about the boat if it is stormy or rains a lot. Therefore we don't leave the boat in all the time. It gets launched and retrieved every time. This year the water is so high that we don't even leave it in over night when we are there. The dock is 2 feet under. The current boats are a 16 footer with an outboard and a 20 footer with an inboard outboard. Most cars these days are not really built to tow things like the boats. It might do it, but I would not want to use a car like my wife's Honda Accord to retrieve either of the boats. I also live in a winter climate. Last winter we had a lot of snow. My good wife gets around with the Honda with good winter tires. I truly prefer having the 4 wheel drive at my disposal. So, do I NEED a truck? Maybe not but it sure is nice. AND the supercrew with the big back seat and 4 doors and the tonneau cover on the box is really just a big car with a big trunk. I have a friend who is trying to sell a 2010 Lincoln Town Car and if I had a parking spot for it and some spare cash, I would be tempted. I think 2011 was the last year for those big rear drive LIncolns. This one is burgundy with a tan interior and has about 65K miles on it. I could have it for about $14K. I have also been tempted to buy one of the last Crown Victoria police interceptors. The local police are moving on to the Taurus and there are lots of the big police cars being auctioned off. I don't suppose the mileage would be much better than my truck with either the Lincoln or the Ford, but it should be able to pull a bigger trailer than the Honda. Although, I might look a bit odd hauling lumber down the highway behind a Town Car. I don't have a spare spot to park the trailer that I would need without the truck either. I could leave an old truck at the lake so that we could launch and retrieve without driving a truck back and forth to the city but that would mean another vehicle to maintain and insure. We did that for a while. I had an old Chevy pickup for a long while and it was out at the lake for its last few years with us. I also left the 4Runner out there for a summer. Still an issue of what we haul with us to and from the lake. A nice old MB diesel wagon with a small utility trailer might do but those are getting harder to come by in usable condition. I cannot say I want a mini-van. So, I do think that so far, I can justify the truck but I did not need a 3/4 ton and I did not buy one. I drove the 02 Supercrew for the previous 8 years or so and I liked it so I got another one. I did so partly because I wanted to offer the 02 to my younger son before it was totally worn out. If I had more parking spots and some spare cash, I could see myself with a Honda Civic to get to and from the office. However, I could actually walk in reasonable weather as I can almost see my house from here. So, I may not NEED a vehicle at all. I could ride to the lake with my son and send my good wife on errands with her car, and walk to and from work and be free of all the mechanical headaches that come with ownership. BUT what fun would that be? I wouldn't be able to post questions about how to adjust the valves etc. Randy On 09/07/2014 12:39 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: Is this not the pot calling the kettle black? You don't NEED a pickup at all, a car with a trailer would do you fine. You WANTED a truck which is something I can totally understand. The Dodge was way more truck than I need and we probably could get away with a car or small SUV but considering the mpg penalty of 4wd (not AWD, a softroader won't do) anyway a pickup is really handy. So the story ends that it was just out of fuel. The guy came with fuel and then we had to purge it. He'd been through this before and the yard monkey wasn't supposed to let me drive it in the first place. Apparently the gauge is optimistic. Truck drives a lot better with fuel in, it felt much more powerful and was easier to drive once I got used to it but it still needed front end work. Just when I felt like I had everything under control it would go all over the road... I sat in a Dakota at the same place but it was blocked in and the guy was already having a bad day so I decided to leave it. The tailgate doesn't have any non-broken hold up straps and wouldn't stay latched. The engine makes a funny little noise which might be just the belt, but the AC blows ICE COLD (which the diesel Ram didn't). It appears to be AWD with 4wd as an option which I thought was odd. Instant fuel mileage reads 12mpg which if its really AWD considering it has a 360ci is probably right. All in all I think this is
Re: [MBZ] adjusting valves
If, it requires too much effort, then you need a wrench with a longer handle. Randy On 09/07/2014 2:40 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: Either you're making a strange joke or you're the strangest person I know. Its too much work to put a ratchet on the power steering pump? You only rotate the engine a little each time, how much work could it possibly be? Hooking up the remote starter is way more work. -Curt From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, July 9, 2014 3:37 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] adjusting valves That requires way too much effort IMO. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Not the best
Weren't you restoring a boat? What's the latest on that? Wilton - Original Message - From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2014 6:21 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Not the best NEED is a term that requires defining. I have made 5 trips to the lake so far since May. It is about 175 miles each way. We are always hauling something in one direction or the other. The cottage is old and I am trying to renovate but it is a slow process. My mother stays out there all summer but is 82 now so I don't want her to worry about the boat if it is stormy or rains a lot. Therefore we don't leave the boat in all the time. It gets launched and retrieved every time. This year the water is so high that we don't even leave it in over night when we are there. The dock is 2 feet under. The current boats are a 16 footer with an outboard and a 20 footer with an inboard outboard. Most cars these days are not really built to tow things like the boats. It might do it, but I would not want to use a car like my wife's Honda Accord to retrieve either of the boats. I also live in a winter climate. Last winter we had a lot of snow. My good wife gets around with the Honda with good winter tires. I truly prefer having the 4 wheel drive at my disposal. So, do I NEED a truck? Maybe not but it sure is nice. AND the supercrew with the big back seat and 4 doors and the tonneau cover on the box is really just a big car with a big trunk. I have a friend who is trying to sell a 2010 Lincoln Town Car and if I had a parking spot for it and some spare cash, I would be tempted. I think 2011 was the last year for those big rear drive LIncolns. This one is burgundy with a tan interior and has about 65K miles on it. I could have it for about $14K. I have also been tempted to buy one of the last Crown Victoria police interceptors. The local police are moving on to the Taurus and there are lots of the big police cars being auctioned off. I don't suppose the mileage would be much better than my truck with either the Lincoln or the Ford, but it should be able to pull a bigger trailer than the Honda. Although, I might look a bit odd hauling lumber down the highway behind a Town Car. I don't have a spare spot to park the trailer that I would need without the truck either. I could leave an old truck at the lake so that we could launch and retrieve without driving a truck back and forth to the city but that would mean another vehicle to maintain and insure. We did that for a while. I had an old Chevy pickup for a long while and it was out at the lake for its last few years with us. I also left the 4Runner out there for a summer. Still an issue of what we haul with us to and from the lake. A nice old MB diesel wagon with a small utility trailer might do but those are getting harder to come by in usable condition. I cannot say I want a mini-van. So, I do think that so far, I can justify the truck but I did not need a 3/4 ton and I did not buy one. I drove the 02 Supercrew for the previous 8 years or so and I liked it so I got another one. I did so partly because I wanted to offer the 02 to my younger son before it was totally worn out. If I had more parking spots and some spare cash, I could see myself with a Honda Civic to get to and from the office. However, I could actually walk in reasonable weather as I can almost see my house from here. So, I may not NEED a vehicle at all. I could ride to the lake with my son and send my good wife on errands with her car, and walk to and from work and be free of all the mechanical headaches that come with ownership. BUT what fun would that be? I wouldn't be able to post questions about how to adjust the valves etc. Randy On 09/07/2014 12:39 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: Is this not the pot calling the kettle black? You don't NEED a pickup at all, a car with a trailer would do you fine. You WANTED a truck which is something I can totally understand. The Dodge was way more truck than I need and we probably could get away with a car or small SUV but considering the mpg penalty of 4wd (not AWD, a softroader won't do) anyway a pickup is really handy. So the story ends that it was just out of fuel. The guy came with fuel and then we had to purge it. He'd been through this before and the yard monkey wasn't supposed to let me drive it in the first place. Apparently the gauge is optimistic. Truck drives a lot better with fuel in, it felt much more powerful and was easier to drive once I got used to it but it still needed front end work. Just when I felt like I had everything under control it would go all over the road... I sat in a Dakota at the same place but it was blocked in and the guy was already having a bad day so I decided to leave it. The tailgate doesn't have any non-broken hold up straps and wouldn't stay latched. The engine makes a funny little noise which might be just the belt,
Re: [MBZ] Not the best
On 09/07/2014 5:34 PM, WILTON wrote: Weren't you restoring a boat? What's the latest on that? Wilton Hi Wilton I have had several boat projects come and go in the past few years. At one point I had 4 big old inboard outboards from 17 feet to 22 feet. I scrapped one and sold two and have the one left. The current one is the 20 foot Lund. It needs a new floor etc. Most of the wood on it is bad. The nice thing about an aluminum hull is that it is fairly easy to work on compared to a fiberglass hull where one must grind out the bad wood. I will make some progress this year hopefully but it won't likely be done. It is out at the lake and when we go out we tend to work on the cottage and do a little fishing. What I need is a big heated shop so I could haul it home and work on it in the winter and have it ready for spring. Another thing I need is more time and more energy. I am getting old and lazy. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Membership being suspended for excessive bounces
Google doesn't learn - - - On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 4:06 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Yahoo and Google and Microsoft (Hotmail) apparently all hate each other. Actually I think its caused by the list-bot forwarding my mail and Google realizing that its not really from me since its coming from the list-bot. Why Google doesn't just do that for everybody is the weird part. Maybe add me as a contact and see if that makes a difference. Or click the not spam button a few times and see if it learns. Yahoo seems to be learning. -Curt -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Boxford?
Hey, How far are you from Boxford? I'm debating heading there to buy a marine stove: http://nh.craigslist.org/spo/4542124579.html I can't imagine anyone taking that thing camping but its probably worth what he's asking. I found a picture online of one cleaned up and it was pretty, the tank is brass... Anyway I'm debating, if I could get him to like $40 I'd probably do it. I have 11 stoves now though... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Not the best
You don't have to justify your purchase with me, you wanted the truck, you have the means to support the truck, you got the truck, fine and dandy. Sounds like you're pretty well self actualized though. Some friends needed and SUV a few years ago have never realized they didn't need it. Now they're complaining about how the SUV is more expensive to maintain than their car... -Curt From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, July 9, 2014 6:21 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Not the best NEED is a term that requires defining. I have made 5 trips to the lake so far since May. It is about 175 miles each way. We are always hauling something in one direction or the other. The cottage is old and I am trying to renovate but it is a slow process. My mother stays out there all summer but is 82 now so I don't want her to worry about the boat if it is stormy or rains a lot. Therefore we don't leave the boat in all the time. It gets launched and retrieved every time. This year the water is so high that we don't even leave it in over night when we are there. The dock is 2 feet under. The current boats are a 16 footer with an outboard and a 20 footer with an inboard outboard. Most cars these days are not really built to tow things like the boats. It might do it, but I would not want to use a car like my wife's Honda Accord to retrieve either of the boats. I also live in a winter climate. Last winter we had a lot of snow. My good wife gets around with the Honda with good winter tires. I truly prefer having the 4 wheel drive at my disposal. So, do I NEED a truck? Maybe not but it sure is nice. AND the supercrew with the big back seat and 4 doors and the tonneau cover on the box is really just a big car with a big trunk. I have a friend who is trying to sell a 2010 Lincoln Town Car and if I had a parking spot for it and some spare cash, I would be tempted. I think 2011 was the last year for those big rear drive LIncolns. This one is burgundy with a tan interior and has about 65K miles on it. I could have it for about $14K. I have also been tempted to buy one of the last Crown Victoria police interceptors. The local police are moving on to the Taurus and there are lots of the big police cars being auctioned off. I don't suppose the mileage would be much better than my truck with either the Lincoln or the Ford, but it should be able to pull a bigger trailer than the Honda. Although, I might look a bit odd hauling lumber down the highway behind a Town Car. I don't have a spare spot to park the trailer that I would need without the truck either. I could leave an old truck at the lake so that we could launch and retrieve without driving a truck back and forth to the city but that would mean another vehicle to maintain and insure. We did that for a while. I had an old Chevy pickup for a long while and it was out at the lake for its last few years with us. I also left the 4Runner out there for a summer. Still an issue of what we haul with us to and from the lake. A nice old MB diesel wagon with a small utility trailer might do but those are getting harder to come by in usable condition. I cannot say I want a mini-van. So, I do think that so far, I can justify the truck but I did not need a 3/4 ton and I did not buy one. I drove the 02 Supercrew for the previous 8 years or so and I liked it so I got another one. I did so partly because I wanted to offer the 02 to my younger son before it was totally worn out. If I had more parking spots and some spare cash, I could see myself with a Honda Civic to get to and from the office. However, I could actually walk in reasonable weather as I can almost see my house from here. So, I may not NEED a vehicle at all. I could ride to the lake with my son and send my good wife on errands with her car, and walk to and from work and be free of all the mechanical headaches that come with ownership. BUT what fun would that be? I wouldn't be able to post questions about how to adjust the valves etc. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Not the best
Welcome aboard. ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2014 6:51 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Not the best On 09/07/2014 5:34 PM, WILTON wrote: Weren't you restoring a boat? What's the latest on that? Wilton Hi Wilton I have had several boat projects come and go in the past few years. At one point I had 4 big old inboard outboards from 17 feet to 22 feet. I scrapped one and sold two and have the one left. The current one is the 20 foot Lund. It needs a new floor etc. Most of the wood on it is bad. The nice thing about an aluminum hull is that it is fairly easy to work on compared to a fiberglass hull where one must grind out the bad wood. I will make some progress this year hopefully but it won't likely be done. It is out at the lake and when we go out we tend to work on the cottage and do a little fishing. What I need is a big heated shop so I could haul it home and work on it in the winter and have it ready for spring. Another thing I need is more time and more energy. I am getting old and lazy. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] adjusting valves
Kent Bergsma had a you tube video how to for valve adjustments that I can't find now. He showed how the big nut should be turned until the largest gap is found, and then you adjust the gap to spec, and then double check by rotating that big nut around again. Max Dillon, Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Car rolls back in park
A few months ago my '83 300D would occasionally refuse to start. I would move the shift lever out of park, move it back into park, and then it would start. Yesterday the car rolled back when I put it in park. I can't get it to engage. I'm guessing the problem is in the linkage or the shifter mechanism, but I don't know which part I should check first. Has anyone else had that problem? Thanks Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Car rolls back in park
Gerry.Dead and/or missing bushing(s)?Maybe 115 992 03 10?Transmission mount died? Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred. Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2014 22:14:48 -0400 From: arche...@embarqmail.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Car rolls back in park A few months ago my '83 300D would occasionally refuse to start. I would move the shift lever out of park, move it back into park, and then it would start. Yesterday the car rolled back when I put it in park. I can't get it to engage. I'm guessing the problem is in the linkage or the shifter mechanism, but I don't know which part I should check first. Has anyone else had that problem? Thanks Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Car rolls back in park
Shifter linkage bushings have died and fallen out. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] adjusting valves
On Wed, 9 Jul 2014 21:47:27 -0400 Meade Dillon dillonm...@gmail.com wrote: Kent Bergsma had a you tube video how to for valve adjustments that I can't find now. He showed how the big nut should be turned until the largest gap is found, and then you adjust the gap to spec, and then double check by rotating that big nut around again. Never heard of such a thing. In fact, the procedure is shown in manuals with a tool to hold the big nut still. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Car rolls back in park
There are two sets of plastic bushings. One set at each end of the round rod that connects the shifter to the transmission and another set on the shifter shaft where it pivots fore and aft. With new/good bushings it will be tight and smooth as butter. On the other hand it could be an internal problem (parking pawl) in the transmission. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Peter Frederick Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2014 11:43 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Car rolls back in park Shifter linkage bushings have died and fallen out. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Car rolls back in park
Many thanks, folks. I seem to remember that a special tool is needed or one can be assembled out of washers and a (bolt?) I tried to replace those same bushings on the '83 240D stick-shift without success, but still have the bushings which might be the same since both cars are '83 123s. Gerry Fred wrote: Dead and/or missing bushing(s)?Maybe 115 992 03 10?Transmission mount died? .. Peter wrote: Shifter linkage bushings have died and fallen out. .. On 7/10/2014 12:20 AM, Scott Ritchey wrote: There are two sets of plastic bushings. One set at each end of the round rod that connects the shifter to the transmission and another set on the shifter shaft where it pivots fore and aft. With new/good bushings it will be tight and smooth as butter. On the other hand it could be an internal problem (parking pawl) in the transmission. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
