Re: [MBZ] 124 AC woe

2014-07-13 Thread Meade Dillon
Thanks all! I think Peter has given me a good place to start trouble shooting. Reading the HVAC manual about the evaporator temperature sensor, there is this note: On vehicles as of 09/87, the refrigerant compressor is switched off by the control unit after 2 minutes of operation if there is a

Re: [MBZ] 124 AC woe

2014-07-13 Thread Peter Frederick
Evaporator temp sensor is above the accelerator pedal on the side of the heater box. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] 124 AC woe

2014-07-13 Thread Jim Cathey
The vent temperature was really nice, it would pull down to 0 deg F. Way too cold, no matter how nice you might like it to be there. Things'll ice up. I saw such temps once on the Ebola Fishtank, when the filter screen at the expansion valve was gunked up. (This is unlikely to be your

Re: [MBZ] 500SEL

2014-07-13 Thread Jim Cathey
Any chance the fuel pump is shutting off when in 'run' position? They come on during cranking, but depend upon the RPM-sensor in order to stay running. The 380SL I once bought on the cheap acted something like that. I was kind to the PO, and towed it away on a rope rather than jumping around the

Re: [MBZ] 500SEL

2014-07-13 Thread Dan Penoff
Possibly. I'm still trying to coordinate a visit to check it out. Pins 7 8 to jumper the fuel pump in the relay socket. Thanks! Dan On Jul 13, 2014, at 12:50 PM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: Any chance the fuel pump is shutting off when in 'run' position? They come on during

Re: [MBZ] 500SEL

2014-07-13 Thread Jim Cathey
Pins 7 8 to jumper the fuel pump in the relay socket. I made a cable using some surplus connector pins and a spare dome-light rocker switch. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or

[MBZ] interesting ac conversion stuff

2014-07-13 Thread Rick Hawkins Java
http://www.klimakit.com/w123-products/ they have 124 stuff too thanks, xx rick Rick Hawkins ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] interesting ac conversion stuff

2014-07-13 Thread Dan Penoff
Sweet. Looks like they've done a nice jobs putting all this stuff together. Prices aren't bad, either. Dan On Jul 13, 2014, at 1:49 PM, Rick Hawkins Java macj...@aol.com wrote: http://www.klimakit.com/w123-products/ they have 124 stuff too thanks, xx rick Rick Hawkins

Re: [MBZ] Similar Note - my 91 300D runing warmer - Time for Burping??

2014-07-13 Thread LarryT
I'm sure everything is clean -- When I replaced the radiator a couple of weeks ago I cleaned everything I could.But i was thinking, with all the stuff I did to the cooling system recently (new radiator, new Water pump, new T'stat) I thought maybe I have a air bubble in the system

Re: [MBZ] Similar Note - my 91 300D runing warmer - Time for Burping??

2014-07-13 Thread Curt Raymond
Since I started following JimC's advice and filling through the upper radiator hose I have had way fewer problems with air, just fill slow and let the air keep burping out until you see coolant come out the upper hole in the radiator, then jam the hose on and final fill to the bottle. IIRC it

[MBZ] test message

2014-07-13 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
I need some replied to this message to see what happens. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] test message

2014-07-13 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Here ya go Dan On Jul 13, 2014, at 2:32 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I need some replied to this message to see what happens. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] test message

2014-07-13 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
It appears with it setup this way replies to the list are going back to the poster instead of to the list. That will not work. For example, in this reply, when I hit reply, it was only sending back to Dan, I had to hit reply all to reply back to dan and the list. On 7/13/2014 1:33 PM, Dan

[MBZ] test 2

2014-07-13 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
---BeginMessage--- Testing a different option ---End Message--- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] test 2

2014-07-13 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
---BeginMessage--- And how did this work? Dan On Jul 13, 2014, at 2:40 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net Subject: test 2 Date: July 13, 2014 at 2:39:48 PM EDT To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] test message

2014-07-13 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
---BeginMessage--- Came through loud and clear... From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2014 2:32 PM Subject: [MBZ] test message     I need some replied to this

Re: [MBZ] test message

2014-07-13 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
---BeginMessage--- Came through loud and clear... From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2014 2:32 PM Subject: [MBZ] test message     I need some replied to this

Re: [MBZ] test message

2014-07-13 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
---BeginMessage--- Mine replies to both you and the list. From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2014 2:35 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] test message It appears with it setup this way

Re: [MBZ] test 2

2014-07-13 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
...@striplin.net Subject: test 2 Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2014 13:39:48 -0500 Size: 900 URL: http://mail.okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20140713/f66b5566/attachment.mht ---End Message--- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http

Re: [MBZ] test 2

2014-07-13 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
---BeginMessage--- In any option that satisfies the Yahoo requirement when you get a reply, you have to reply to all in order to send it back to the list, otherwise it will just go back to the original poster and not back to the list. When you replied just now did you reply to all or just hit

Re: [MBZ] test message

2014-07-13 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
---BeginMessage--- So the problem is going to be when people reply its only going to back to who sent it, unless they remember to hit reply all. I think this is going to end up causing more problems than it fixed. On 7/13/2014 1:43 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: Came through loud and clear...

Re: [MBZ] test 2

2014-07-13 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
---BeginMessage--- Dwight replied below but it only came to me, not the list. Some folks might have their email program setup to always reply to all without having to manually do it. I do not think that is the case with most people though. On 7/13/2014 1:45 PM, Dwight Giles wrote: Good

[MBZ] test 3

2014-07-13 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
need a reply ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual

Re: [MBZ] test 3

2014-07-13 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Here ya go. Dan On Jul 13, 2014, at 2:52 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: need a reply ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options

Re: [MBZ] test 3

2014-07-13 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
When you replied did you just hit reply, or reply all, or were both mine and the list email address in the send box? On 7/13/2014 1:53 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: Here ya go. Dan On Jul 13, 2014, at 2:52 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: need a reply

[MBZ] test 4

2014-07-13 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Once again, need a reply, but let me know if you have both my email address and list address in the email send box ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] test 3

2014-07-13 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Which came to everybody. I hit reply and I can see its going to go to everybody... Curt From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Kaleb Striplin ka...@striplin.net; Mercedes List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2014 2:53 PM Subject:

[MBZ] test 5

2014-07-13 Thread Mercedes Discussion List via Mercedes
Same thing, let me know what addresses it puts in your send to box ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] test 5

2014-07-13 Thread Mercedes Discussion List via Mercedes
Just shows the list now. This is probably un-desirable since it doesn't show who its from, just shows the list. From: Mercedes Discussion List via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2014

Re: [MBZ] test 5

2014-07-13 Thread Mercedes Discussion List via Mercedes
Mow replies only to list On Jul 13, 2014 3:00 PM, Mercedes Discussion List via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Same thing, let me know what addresses it puts in your send to box ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] test 5

2014-07-13 Thread Mercedes Discussion List via Mercedes
Yea, thats right, as I have no idea who this is, haha On 7/13/2014 2:01 PM, Mercedes Discussion List via Mercedes wrote: Just shows the list now. This is probably un-desirable since it doesn't show who its from, just shows the list. From: Mercedes Discussion

[MBZ] last test

2014-07-13 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Last one, same as before ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of

Re: [MBZ] test 5

2014-07-13 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
The phantom... From: Mercedes Discussion List via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2014 3:01 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] test 5 Yea, thats right, as I have no idea who this is, haha On

Re: [MBZ] test 5

2014-07-13 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
I think maybe we should leave it like that then we can guess who is posting, that could be lots of fun. I think we would all figure out when it was dr jabba though. On 7/13/2014 2:04 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: The phantom... From: Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] last test

2014-07-13 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
You and the list... From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2014 3:03 PM Subject: [MBZ] last test Last one, same as before ___

Re: [MBZ] last test

2014-07-13 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Do when a reply comes back, it will go to the list and the poster, but it you reply back to that reply, it only goes back to the poster unless you hit reply all. As in this case, Curt replied to my post, it went to me and the list, but when I replied to him, only only went back to him unless

Re: [MBZ] last test

2014-07-13 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
So for Dwight, it only came back to me, with Curt, it had both addresses. I think this depends on how the mail client is setup. I think this is going to cause problems. On 7/13/2014 2:07 PM, Dwight Giles wrote: Only you On Jul 13, 2014 3:03 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] last test

2014-07-13 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Interesting, for me its showing you and the list once again... From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2014 3:08 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] last test Do when a reply

Re: [MBZ] last test

2014-07-13 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
Yes because using reply all will give sender 2 copies of same message. On Jul 13, 2014 3:10 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: So for Dwight, it only came back to me, with Curt, it had both addresses. I think this depends on how the mail client is setup. I think

Re: [MBZ] Similar Note - my 91 300D runing warmer - Time for Burping??

2014-07-13 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
Quick and dirty prime is to remove the pressure cap, squeeze the upper radiator hose flat, then crimp the small vent line to the expansion tank shut and release the upper hose. This will pull coolant through the lower radiator hose and heater core back into the head. If you have a bubble,

Re: [MBZ] test 3

2014-07-13 Thread Russ Williams via Mercedes
Got it On 7/13/2014 13:52, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote: need a reply ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] last test

2014-07-13 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Ooo, if I reply to all I get the list twice... I guess this is the best compromise though, makes the list work without the bounce issues... Curt From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] test 4

2014-07-13 Thread Russ Williams via Mercedes
On the first one Both You and lest came up when I hit Reply. On this one only Your Addy came up had to add List Addy. On 7/13/2014 13:56, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote: Once again, need a reply, but let me know if you have both my email address and list address in the email send box

[MBZ] Republic wireless

2014-07-13 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Who was it that had Republic wireless? I've been thinking of making the switch, which phone do you have? The two choices are Moto X and Moto G. I'm curious if the X is worth the extra $150. It looks like either of them will smoke my iPhone. I guess the fact that with Republic wireless I'll be

[MBZ] Of batteries and clocks

2014-07-13 Thread John Reames via Mercedes
I finally had the battery in the 85 300d die ... It was reading 12.79 volts and I would just get a click (with all lights shutting off). I don't think that I can legitimately complain about it; it had the blessed star on it (less expensive than interstate or snears), and I saw 20 Jan 2007 in

Re: [MBZ] Republic wireless

2014-07-13 Thread Tim Crone via Mercedes
On Jul 13, 2014 3:27 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Who was it that had Republic wireless? I don't, but multiple friends have recommended it. It is local (Cary NC) but I've never actually met anyone who works for them. I've been thinking of making the switch,

Re: [MBZ] Of batteries and clocks

2014-07-13 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Yup. Two of the them if memory serves me correctly. If you have basic soldering skills and the tools necessary to remove the cluster, it's an easy and cheap fix. Be sure to go with 25WVDC caps for replacements. Or maybe it was 50s. I just remember that the original caps are marginal as far

Re: [MBZ] interesting ac conversion stuff

2014-07-13 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
I see only 123 126 (Rich, check out the O-ring kit). Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Jul 13, 2014 1:49 PM, Rick Hawkins Java macj...@aol.com wrote: http://www.klimakit.com/w123-products/ they have 124 stuff too thanks, xx rick Rick Hawkins ___

Re: [MBZ] test 5

2014-07-13 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
I see Mercedes@Okie... Max Dillon, Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts

Re: [MBZ] test 5

2014-07-13 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
It puts: from: Mercedes Discussion List via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com reply-to: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com to: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com date: Sun, Jul 13, 2014 at 1:59 PMsubject: [MBZ] test 5mailing list: mercedes.okiebenz.com Filter messages from

Re: [MBZ] Of batteries and clocks

2014-07-13 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
What Dan said, I did the replacement on one of my cars, can't remember which one. Curt From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net; Mercedes List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2014 4:07 PM Subject:

Re: [MBZ] last test

2014-07-13 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
from: Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com reply-to: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com, Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com to: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net, Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com date: Sun, Jul 13, 2014 at 2:06 PMsubject: Re: [MBZ] last

Re: [MBZ] Of batteries and clocks

2014-07-13 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
Anyhow after replacing it, the clock is kaput. Electrolytic caps? How gnarly of a job is it? The worst part is getting the hands off of the clock, IIRC. Two spoons, used as levers. (Bowls as fulcra.) This should help avoid breaking things. You can take this opportunity to repaint the

Re: [MBZ] Of batteries and clocks

2014-07-13 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I don't recall having to disassemble the clock, that is, remove the hands. Dan On Jul 13, 2014, at 4:21 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Anyhow after replacing it, the clock is kaput. Electrolytic caps? How gnarly of a job is it? The worst part is getting the

Re: [MBZ] Similar Note - my 91 300D runing warmer - Time forBurping??

2014-07-13 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
I used to have air bubble problems in 617 cooling systems. They eventually go away after repeated coolant top-up. But never had bubble problems after I started filling through the top radiator hose (disconnected at the radiator and held vertical). -Original Message- From: Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] Of batteries and clocks

2014-07-13 Thread John Reames via Mercedes
Yeah, the hand repaint is a good idea... What vendor paint did you use? I expect that you'd sort of mask the plastic head to keep it clean? Soldering isn't any issue, as I've a 7w iron and hands (just barely) steady enough to use it for some SMD work... but keep that RoHS solder (crap) away

Re: [MBZ] last test

2014-07-13 Thread Fmiser via Mercedes
Curt wrote: Interesting, for me its showing you and the list once again... My client put okiebenz in to and Curt in CC. I did a plain reply. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To

Re: [MBZ] last test

2014-07-13 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Same here. I've just been taking the individual address out. If that's what it takes to stop the bounces I'm all for it. Dan On Jul 13, 2014, at 5:48 PM, Fmiser via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Curt wrote: Interesting, for me its showing you and the list once again... My

Re: [MBZ] Of batteries and clocks

2014-07-13 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
I don't recall having to disassemble the clock, that is, remove the hands. I suppose it depends on the clock. I only have experience with the ones buried in the tachometer. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] Of batteries and clocks

2014-07-13 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
Yeah, the hand repaint is a good idea... What vendor paint did you use? It is Americana acrylic paint. Tangerine color, got it at the hobby shop many years ago. I expect that you'd sort of mask the plastic head to keep it clean? I use a small brush, and some degree of care. Masking tape