Re: [MBZ] 77 300D go bye bye

2014-12-14 Thread Tim Crone via Mercedes
On Dec 13, 2014 10:06 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 So why did you sell it?

Because it was easier than buying a bigger yard.

Seriously, I kept feeling like I should work on it when I really wanted to
tinker on Wilton's SDL, and it bugged me letting it melt.  At least this
way someone is paying attention to it.

I got much better responses than I did during summer - I guess folks are
still watching, but the pool of listings is much smaller.  Or maybe folks
wanted to give a project car to their kids.  I also did not include my
phone number, which seems to have kept the most annoying buyers away.
(Maybe annoying because I have other things to do than answer the
phone...)  Too bad really, since it would undoubtedly have been an easier
repair six months ago.

Best,
Tim
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Re: [MBZ] 77 300D go bye bye

2014-12-14 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
So what is the latest with the milt the wilt car?

Sent from my iPhone

 On Dec 14, 2014, at 8:04 AM, Tim Crone bb...@crone.us wrote:
 
 On Dec 13, 2014 10:06 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
  So why did you sell it?
 
 Because it was easier than buying a bigger yard.
 
 Seriously, I kept feeling like I should work on it when I really wanted to 
 tinker on Wilton's SDL, and it bugged me letting it melt.  At least this way 
 someone is paying attention to it.
 
 I got much better responses than I did during summer - I guess folks are 
 still watching, but the pool of listings is much smaller.  Or maybe folks 
 wanted to give a project car to their kids.  I also did not include my phone 
 number, which seems to have kept the most annoying buyers away. (Maybe 
 annoying because I have other things to do than answer the phone...)  Too bad 
 really, since it would undoubtedly have been an easier repair six months ago.
 
 Best,
 Tim
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Re: [MBZ] benz toyota

2014-12-14 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
What are prices for a good used engine?

Max Dillon,
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] OT - fuel prices

2014-12-14 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
River Road Valero dropped again to $3.29!  When will the Madness end!  Long
live Madness!

On Sat, Dec 13, 2014 at 11:25 PM, G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 wrote:

 More than one station here has ULSD at $2.76  With supermarket fuel
 discount points card, I'm paying $2.46 at the pump...

 Projections for the crude oil futures market are looking at further drop in
 price possible.

 It appears that the increase in domestic oil production in USA has broken
 [for now] OPEC strangle hold on pricing.. [OK.. it's not that simple.. a
 number of international economic factors come to play.]

 Bottom line.. I will wear out my Mercedes with more miles driven and buy
 more parts at cheaper fuel prices..


 On Sat, Dec 13, 2014 at 8:07 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
  Passed an Exxon station with #2 ULSD for $2.99 earlier tonight.
 
  Let's hope that trend continues and spreads!
 
  Max Dillon,
  Charleston SC
   On Dec 13, 2014 3:14 PM, OK Don via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
  wrote:
 
   1)
  
   So you think you are finally getting one over on the gas stations as
 you
   pay well under $3 a gallon for the first time in four years? Guess
 again.
  
   Gas stations love low prices too — and not just because customers are
  nicer
   when they are paying less.
  
   We're in the same shoes as the consumer, the cost of fuel is less for
  us,
   says Kevin Beyer, who owns Performance Fuels, a filling station and
   convenience store in Smithtown, NY.
  
   That means profits for Beyer and the nation's 127,000 filling stations
  are
   rising.
  
   Before they sell gas to you, station owners buy gas on the wholesale
   market. When the wholesale price of gasoline falls quickly the
 difference
   between the cost of wholesale gasoline (including taxes) and the price
 at
   the pump gets wider, boosting profits for stations. The steeper the
 drop,
   the better.
  
   It's completely antithetical to what people believe, says Tom Kloza,
   chief oil analyst at the Oil Price Information Service.
  
   That difference has stretched to 21.7 cents per gallon this year, the
   highest ever, according to an OPIS analysis of 16,000 U.S. stations.
 That
   compares to an average of 17.1 cents over the last five years. On a
   percentage basis, station profitability is at its highest since 2005.
 And
   profits on diesel sales are even higher. They are off the charts,
 Kloza
   says.
  
   Yes, that means you could be paying even less for gasoline than you
 are.
  
   But before you cry foul, you should know that after all the ups and
 downs
   in a year, gas stations do not make much money from selling gasoline.
  After
   credit card fees and other operating costs, net profit for gasoline
 sales
   averages 3 cents a gallon, according the National Association of
   Convenience Stores.
  
   When gas prices soar, and drivers think they're being gouged, stations
  are
   barely scraping by or even losing money. When the wholesale price is
   soaring, like it did in 2008, 2011 and 2012, station owners can't
  increase
   the price at the pump as fast as their costs are going up or they risk
   losing customers to competitors.
  
   When the wholesale price is going down, like now, there isn't the same
   pressure to lower the price.
  
   Drivers are so happy to see lower prices they don't search all over
 town
   for the lowest one. And then when they put gas in the tank, they fill
 'er
   up instead of just putting in a few dollars' worth.
  
   And drivers have some money left over to spend on what's really
  profitable
   for station owners: The drinks and snacks inside.
  
   As the pricing goes down, I don't see people shopping (for the
 cheapest
   price) as much as they do when it's going up, says Beyer. They are
  still
   feeling a relief at the pump.
  
   As a result, he adds, People are more friendly.
  
   The national average price of gasoline has fallen 78 days in a row to
  $2.60
   a gallon. That's 65 cents less than last year at this time and $1.10
  below
   its peak for this year of $3.70, reached in April.
  
   Gas has fallen because the global price of crude oil has dropped 45
  percent
   since this summer. The U.S., Canada and other countries are producing
  more
   oil at time when world demand is weak because of sluggish economic
  growth.
  
   This has drained profits and knocked down the share prices of oil
  producers
   — the exploration and production divisions of the big oil companies
 such
  as
   Exxon Mobil and Chevron, and companies such as ConocoPhillips and
  Marathon
   Oil.
  
   Refiners, including refining divisions of the big oil companies and
   refining-only companies such as Phillips 66 and Valero, have held up
   better. They benefit from lower crude costs, although they are also
   grappling with high fuel inventories.
  
   Gas station owners, though, are thrilled. The vast majority of stations
  are
   owned by small independent 

Re: [MBZ] OT - fuel prices

2014-12-14 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes

River Road Valero dropped again to $3.29!  When will the Madness end!  Long
live Madness!



Well, crude is $57/bbl  What do the goobermnt records say the retail 
price was last time crude was $57?


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Re: [MBZ] 77 300D go bye bye

2014-12-14 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
If you had put a coupla Obama and Lizzie Warren stickers on it, with 
some COEXIST, Practice Tolerance, HANDSUPDON'TSHOOT, ICAN'TBREATHE, and 
Moral Monday stickers on it, you could probably have gotten $1500 for it 
from some CH residents, just to park in their driveways to show how much 
they care.


They care more than you do.

--R


On 12/13/14 8:23 PM, Tim Crone via Mercedes wrote:

Guy towed it tonight.  He could not get it to crank even with his big jump
box, so we pushed it up.  He was towing it, with a dolly, to Wilmington, in
the dark.  Hopefully that went (or maybe, is going) okay...

I had 26 emails in two days (this close to Christmas even!) at $500.  I'm
sure I could have held out for asking but I liked the fellow, and he was
going to work on it with his kid (allegedly anyway, yes I am a softie :),
so I took a bit less.  The parking space, plus not having to wait for the
other 25 folks to show up, was worth the delta to me.

My older son (11) was pretty torn up about it, he has a lot of memories in
that car.  I think I sold him on it having a new, more useful life with its
new people, but I guess we'll see how that feels in the morning.

Merry Christmas y'all!
-Tim
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Re: [MBZ] OT - fuel prices

2014-12-14 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
Article in the paper (WSJ?) yesterday about profits for gas stations now 
-- they are making a killing as prices are dropping faster wholesale 
than pump prices, so the margins are quite good.  Diesel was pointed out 
to be propped up even more, resulting in very high margins for retailers.


--R


On 12/13/14 11:25 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:

More than one station here has ULSD at $2.76  With supermarket fuel
discount points card, I'm paying $2.46 at the pump...

Projections for the crude oil futures market are looking at further drop in
price possible.

It appears that the increase in domestic oil production in USA has broken
[for now] OPEC strangle hold on pricing.. [OK.. it's not that simple.. a
number of international economic factors come to play.]

Bottom line.. I will wear out my Mercedes with more miles driven and buy
more parts at cheaper fuel prices..


On Sat, Dec 13, 2014 at 8:07 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

Passed an Exxon station with #2 ULSD for $2.99 earlier tonight.

Let's hope that trend continues and spreads!

Max Dillon,
Charleston SC
  On Dec 13, 2014 3:14 PM, OK Don via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
wrote:


1)

So you think you are finally getting one over on the gas stations as you
pay well under $3 a gallon for the first time in four years? Guess again.

Gas stations love low prices too — and not just because customers are

nicer

when they are paying less.

We're in the same shoes as the consumer, the cost of fuel is less for

us,

says Kevin Beyer, who owns Performance Fuels, a filling station and
convenience store in Smithtown, NY.

That means profits for Beyer and the nation's 127,000 filling stations

are

rising.

Before they sell gas to you, station owners buy gas on the wholesale
market. When the wholesale price of gasoline falls quickly the difference
between the cost of wholesale gasoline (including taxes) and the price at
the pump gets wider, boosting profits for stations. The steeper the drop,
the better.

It's completely antithetical to what people believe, says Tom Kloza,
chief oil analyst at the Oil Price Information Service.

That difference has stretched to 21.7 cents per gallon this year, the
highest ever, according to an OPIS analysis of 16,000 U.S. stations. That
compares to an average of 17.1 cents over the last five years. On a
percentage basis, station profitability is at its highest since 2005. And
profits on diesel sales are even higher. They are off the charts, Kloza
says.

Yes, that means you could be paying even less for gasoline than you are.

But before you cry foul, you should know that after all the ups and downs
in a year, gas stations do not make much money from selling gasoline.

After

credit card fees and other operating costs, net profit for gasoline sales
averages 3 cents a gallon, according the National Association of
Convenience Stores.

When gas prices soar, and drivers think they're being gouged, stations

are

barely scraping by or even losing money. When the wholesale price is
soaring, like it did in 2008, 2011 and 2012, station owners can't

increase

the price at the pump as fast as their costs are going up or they risk
losing customers to competitors.

When the wholesale price is going down, like now, there isn't the same
pressure to lower the price.

Drivers are so happy to see lower prices they don't search all over town
for the lowest one. And then when they put gas in the tank, they fill 'er
up instead of just putting in a few dollars' worth.

And drivers have some money left over to spend on what's really

profitable

for station owners: The drinks and snacks inside.

As the pricing goes down, I don't see people shopping (for the cheapest
price) as much as they do when it's going up, says Beyer. They are

still

feeling a relief at the pump.

As a result, he adds, People are more friendly.

The national average price of gasoline has fallen 78 days in a row to

$2.60

a gallon. That's 65 cents less than last year at this time and $1.10

below

its peak for this year of $3.70, reached in April.

Gas has fallen because the global price of crude oil has dropped 45

percent

since this summer. The U.S., Canada and other countries are producing

more

oil at time when world demand is weak because of sluggish economic

growth.

This has drained profits and knocked down the share prices of oil

producers

— the exploration and production divisions of the big oil companies such

as

Exxon Mobil and Chevron, and companies such as ConocoPhillips and

Marathon

Oil.

Refiners, including refining divisions of the big oil companies and
refining-only companies such as Phillips 66 and Valero, have held up
better. They benefit from lower crude costs, although they are also
grappling with high fuel inventories.

Gas station owners, though, are thrilled. The vast majority of stations

are

owned by small independent operators, even if the sign out front says
Exxon, BP or Shell. But shares of CST Brands, 

Re: [MBZ] Interesting

2014-12-14 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
Wow, check this out.  Kinda pricey but nearly new 
https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/4803227629.html



   '01 Mercedes S500 - 16k miles


This is a rare opportunity to own a stunning example of the flagship of 
the Mercedes brand which sold new for $96,821, has the mileage of a one 
year old car, and can be purchased for $19,500.


Options include the AMG Sport Package, which consists of the 18 AMG 
wheels and body cladding, voice recognition system, and the built in 
navigation system. The list of standard luxury features is staggering. 
Everything functions as it should.


The pictures do not do this car justice. It shows as a slightly used new 
car with minimal wear. There are 8 microscopic chips and a slight 1 
surface scratch in the paint, that if you don't know where it is, you 
probably couldn't find it.


Never any paint work or even touch-up.

The wheels are bright and shiny with no curb rash. The interior is as 
new with only the slightest wear that you would expect with 16,000 miles.


Clean CarFax that I can furnish

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[MBZ] So that is what I am asking.

2014-12-14 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes


   https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/4761610494.html


   Mercedes Bentz - $2043 (West Montague Ave)condition: *fair*

*2000 mercedes-benz slk230 kompressor* VIN: WDBHA24G4YA839138 paint 
color : *black* size : *mid-size* fuel : *gas* transmission : 
*automatic* title status : *clean*


This is a 2000 Mercedes Bentz, a C230 sedan. It has 4 doors, black. Runs 
good now, have kept up with the oil changes. I am the 2nd owner. It does 
need some work. It is making a ticking sound - been told it might be the 
supercharger. It has been a good, dependable car. The inside ceiling 
does need replacing . It has a sunroof. No CD player. Leather interior, 
no tears. Kelly Blue book places it at 2043.00 So that is what I am asking.

Chris

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Re: [MBZ] So that is what I am asking.

2014-12-14 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes

So which is it?  A C or an SLK?




   https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/4761610494.html


   Mercedes Bentz - $2043 (West Montague Ave)condition: *fair*

*2000 mercedes-benz slk230 kompressor* VIN: WDBHA24G4YA839138 paint 
color : *black* size : *mid-size* fuel : *gas* transmission : 
*automatic* title status : *clean*


This is a 2000 Mercedes Bentz, a C230 sedan. It has 4 doors, black. 
Runs good now, have kept up with the oil changes. I am the 2nd 
owner. It does need some work. It is making a ticking sound - been 
told it might be the supercharger. It has been a good, dependable 
car. The inside ceiling does need replacing . It has a sunroof. No 
CD player. Leather interior, no tears. Kelly Blue book places it at 
2043.00 So that is what I am asking.

Chris


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[MBZ] OT - Paradise

2014-12-14 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Sounds like Hendrick is in the right place at the right time:
(Of course, this is based on statistics, and we all know about them - - - )
The 5 Least Livable (and 5 Most-Livable) Countries
http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/the-5-least-livable-and-5-most-livable-countries/ss-BBeJtD6#image=7
http://247wallst.com/


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Re: [MBZ] benz toyota

2014-12-14 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Using the drive train parts from an ML might be the way to go these days ---

On Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 1:44 AM, fmiser via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
wrote:

  Rick wrote:
 
  I had a call from a friend who wants the engine from a spare 1982
  300d i have. He wants to put it in a toyota pickup .. he says
  there are kits, etc to do it
 
  i think they mate the benz engine to the toyota transmission
 
  he and a friend plan to do two of them over the next few months

 There was a fellow here years ago that made a 4WD 300TD using a
 Nissan pickup chassis.  As I recall, part of the reason he choose
 Nissan running gear is the divorced transfer case - which means he
 was using the Mercedes transmission.  I'm remembering he was
 pleased with the result, despite grief from the purists. *smiles*

 Nope.  Still can't remember his name...


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Re: [MBZ] OT - fuel prices

2014-12-14 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Which is the gist of the article that I sent that started this thread. The
second article states that the falling prices are not related to supply and
demand - they are falling due to commodity futures traders.

On Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 10:14 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Article in the paper (WSJ?) yesterday about profits for gas stations now
 -- they are making a killing as prices are dropping faster wholesale than
 pump prices, so the margins are quite good.  Diesel was pointed out to be
 propped up even more, resulting in very high margins for retailers.

 --R



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learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
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2013 F150, 18 mpg
2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] Interesting

2014-12-14 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Reads like a dealership blurb.  The car is way out of warranty so I would
definitely expect $$$ repairs.  No mention of service history either.

On Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 11:30 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Wow, check this out.  Kinda pricey but nearly new
 https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/4803227629.html


'01 Mercedes S500 - 16k miles


 This is a rare opportunity to own a stunning example of the flagship of
 the Mercedes brand which sold new for $96,821, has the mileage of a one
 year old car, and can be purchased for $19,500.

 Options include the AMG Sport Package, which consists of the 18 AMG
 wheels and body cladding, voice recognition system, and the built in
 navigation system. The list of standard luxury features is staggering.
 Everything functions as it should.

 The pictures do not do this car justice. It shows as a slightly used new
 car with minimal wear. There are 8 microscopic chips and a slight 1
 surface scratch in the paint, that if you don't know where it is, you
 probably couldn't find it.

 Never any paint work or even touch-up.

 The wheels are bright and shiny with no curb rash. The interior is as new
 with only the slightest wear that you would expect with 16,000 miles.

 Clean CarFax that I can furnish

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Re: [MBZ] Interesting

2014-12-14 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
This comes down more to the matter of lack of use than maintenance.

As discussed previously, I would rather have a car with some miles on it that 
has been maintained than a low mileage garage queen.  While this car is only 13 
years old, it my not be as big an issue as one that’s 20 or 30 years old, but 
it’s still a concern for me.

Price is way too high for this car, too. Clearbook tops it out at slightly less 
than $12k.

Dan


 On Dec 14, 2014, at 2:38 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Reads like a dealership blurb.  The car is way out of warranty so I would
 definitely expect $$$ repairs.  No mention of service history either.
 
 On Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 11:30 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Wow, check this out.  Kinda pricey but nearly new
 https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/4803227629.html
 
 
   '01 Mercedes S500 - 16k miles
 
 
 This is a rare opportunity to own a stunning example of the flagship of
 the Mercedes brand which sold new for $96,821, has the mileage of a one
 year old car, and can be purchased for $19,500.
 
 Options include the AMG Sport Package, which consists of the 18 AMG
 wheels and body cladding, voice recognition system, and the built in
 navigation system. The list of standard luxury features is staggering.
 Everything functions as it should.
 
 The pictures do not do this car justice. It shows as a slightly used new
 car with minimal wear. There are 8 microscopic chips and a slight 1
 surface scratch in the paint, that if you don't know where it is, you
 probably couldn't find it.
 
 Never any paint work or even touch-up.
 
 The wheels are bright and shiny with no curb rash. The interior is as new
 with only the slightest wear that you would expect with 16,000 miles.
 
 Clean CarFax that I can furnish
 
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[MBZ] OT - Tweak ebay

2014-12-14 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
An item said at the top $x for shipping but in the seller description
it said free shipping.  Which statement of shipping rules?  Does the
top line shipping rule? or does the free shipping in seller
description rule?
Thanks.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Interesting

2014-12-14 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Book is consistently below $10k on this car looking at other price guides.  I 
found one at a local Lexus dealer with a little over 100k on it.  Florida car, 
dealer maintained, etc.  Look at the maintenance history on the car and all the 
stuff that’s been replaced:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/p2rwyf5qbp85rmp/CARFAX%20Vehicle%20History%20Report%20for%20this%202001%20MERCEDES-BENZ%20S500%3A%20WDBNG75JX1A220333.pdf?dl=0

I think this is indicative of the stuff I heard when I was researching these a 
few months ago.  Lots and lots of electronic issues, I noticed the suspension 
compressor had been replaced at 23k, too.

No thanks.  I think they’re going to have that car listed for a long, long time.

Dan


 On Dec 14, 2014, at 3:07 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 wrote:
 
 This comes down more to the matter of lack of use than maintenance.
 
 As discussed previously, I would rather have a car with some miles on it that 
 has been maintained than a low mileage garage queen.  While this car is only 
 13 years old, it my not be as big an issue as one that’s 20 or 30 years old, 
 but it’s still a concern for me.
 
 Price is way too high for this car, too. Clearbook tops it out at slightly 
 less than $12k.
 
 Dan
 
 
 On Dec 14, 2014, at 2:38 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Reads like a dealership blurb.  The car is way out of warranty so I would
 definitely expect $$$ repairs.  No mention of service history either.
 
 On Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 11:30 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Wow, check this out.  Kinda pricey but nearly new
 https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/4803227629.html
 
 
  '01 Mercedes S500 - 16k miles
 
 
 This is a rare opportunity to own a stunning example of the flagship of
 the Mercedes brand which sold new for $96,821, has the mileage of a one
 year old car, and can be purchased for $19,500.
 
 Options include the AMG Sport Package, which consists of the 18 AMG
 wheels and body cladding, voice recognition system, and the built in
 navigation system. The list of standard luxury features is staggering.
 Everything functions as it should.
 
 The pictures do not do this car justice. It shows as a slightly used new
 car with minimal wear. There are 8 microscopic chips and a slight 1
 surface scratch in the paint, that if you don't know where it is, you
 probably couldn't find it.
 
 Never any paint work or even touch-up.
 
 The wheels are bright and shiny with no curb rash. The interior is as new
 with only the slightest wear that you would expect with 16,000 miles.
 
 Clean CarFax that I can furnish
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Tweak ebay

2014-12-14 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Link?

Dan


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 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 An item said at the top $x for shipping but in the seller description
 it said free shipping.  Which statement of shipping rules?  Does the
 top line shipping rule? or does the free shipping in seller
 description rule?
 Thanks.
 mao
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Tweak ebay

2014-12-14 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I doubt you could compel free shipping if there's a conflict.

On Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 3:19 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Link?

 Dan


  On Dec 14, 2014, at 3:16 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
  An item said at the top $x for shipping but in the seller description
  it said free shipping.  Which statement of shipping rules?  Does the
  top line shipping rule? or does the free shipping in seller
  description rule?
  Thanks.
  mao
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Tweak ebay

2014-12-14 Thread Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes
Ask the seller the question.  With an email reply you will know for sure,
and can hold him to it.

Greg

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Subject: [MBZ] OT - Tweak ebay

An item said at the top $x for shipping but in the seller description it
said free shipping.  Which statement of shipping rules?  Does the top line
shipping rule? or does the free shipping in seller description rule?
Thanks.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Tweak ebay

2014-12-14 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
Greg wrote:
 Ask the seller the question.  With an email reply you will know for sure,
 and can hold him to it.

I contacted seller and he said his description where he stated free
shipping - was wrong.  It is low cost item... just trying to screw
another bottom feeder, really.  Shame on me - but I was wondering if
there is protocol at ebay that dictates seller description rules
instead of page format.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Tweak ebay

2014-12-14 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I expect eBay would stick the seller, it does SAY free shipping after all. Good 
luck getting a fair shake with that seller though...
-Curt
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mercedes@okiebenz.com 
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 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Tweak ebay
   
Greg wrote:
 Ask the seller the question.  With an email reply you will know for sure,
 and can hold him to it.

I contacted seller and he said his description where he stated free
shipping - was wrong.  It is low cost item... just trying to screw
another bottom feeder, really.  Shame on me - but I was wondering if
there is protocol at ebay that dictates seller description rules
instead of page format.


mao

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[MBZ] Shop is filling up

2014-12-14 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Starting to fill up with cars. I'm going to have to build another shop at some 
point.  Btw I leave the hoods up to cut down on rats nests. I need to work on 
the doors to keep mice out of the shop. I discovered a rats nest under the hood 
of the first car in within a couple of weeks. Started leaving the hoods up and 
so far they have not appear to be interested in the engine compartments. 

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[MBZ] The car that started it all

2014-12-14 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Here is a photo of my 76 240d that started my addiction to Mercedes. It 
belonged to my long departed grandmother. I took my drivers test in this car. 
She let some relative use the car and they did something to the fender and ran 
it out of oil locking the engine up. I bought it off her in 97 or 98. Hauled it 
home pulled the engine out. It has then moved with me to 5 houses over the 
years, had it stored in the garage, then outside under a car cover, but the 
cover has long since gone. The replacement engine has been pulled and ready to 
drop in. She has sat outside and as with most 115s it does leak some water, 
interior is moldy. Looking at the underbody does have some rust starting so 
need to get that under control. I have neglected it too long and today it moved 
to my shop out of the weather. I am going to have to do some major interior 
cleaning to get rid of the mold smell. I bet the heater fan has locked up my 
now also. I should be ashamed I let it sit this long. 

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[MBZ] After sitting for 10 years she started right up

2014-12-14 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Another 115 with a very moldy interior. It's going to need a little bit of rust 
repair from a leaky trunk. 

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Re: [MBZ] The car that started it all

2014-12-14 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Is that noise I hear grandma spinning in her grave?

Dan


 On Dec 13, 2014, at 5:27 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Here is a photo of my 76 240d that started my addiction to Mercedes. It 
 belonged to my long departed grandmother. I took my drivers test in this car. 
 She let some relative use the car and they did something to the fender and 
 ran it out of oil locking the engine up. I bought it off her in 97 or 98. 
 Hauled it home pulled the engine out. It has then moved with me to 5 houses 
 over the years, had it stored in the garage, then outside under a car cover, 
 but the cover has long since gone. The replacement engine has been pulled and 
 ready to drop in. She has sat outside and as with most 115s it does leak some 
 water, interior is moldy. Looking at the underbody does have some rust 
 starting so need to get that under control. I have neglected it too long and 
 today it moved to my shop out of the weather. I am going to have to do some 
 major interior cleaning to get rid of the mold smell. I bet the heater fan 
 has locked up my now also. I should be ashamed I let it sit this long. 
 
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Re: [MBZ] The car that started it all

2014-12-14 Thread M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes
Well, if you need trim strips for the rear fenders, let me know...

-MMM-


On Sat, Dec 13, 2014 at 4:27 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Here is a photo of my 76 240d that started my addiction to Mercedes. It
 belonged to my long departed grandmother. I took my drivers test in this
 car. She let some relative use the car and they did something to the fender
 and ran it out of oil locking the engine up. I bought it off her in 97 or
 98. Hauled it home pulled the engine out. It has then moved with me to 5
 houses over the years, had it stored in the garage, then outside under a
 car cover, but the cover has long since gone. The replacement engine has
 been pulled and ready to drop in. She has sat outside and as with most 115s
 it does leak some water, interior is moldy. Looking at the underbody does
 have some rust starting so need to get that under control. I have neglected
 it too long and today it moved to my shop out of the weather. I am going to
 have to do some major interior cleaning to get rid of the mold smell. I bet
 the heater fan has locked up my now also. I should be ashamed I let it sit
 this long.

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Re: [MBZ] Shop is filling up

2014-12-14 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
What happens if you put poison blocks next to the tires?
Mitch. 

 On December 14, 2014 at 6:05 PM Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


 Starting to fill up with cars. I'm going to have to build another shop at some
 point. Btw I leave the hoods up to cut down on rats nests. I need to work on
 the doors to keep mice out of the shop. I discovered a rats nest under the
 hood of the first car in within a couple of weeks. Started leaving the hoods
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 compartments.

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Re: [MBZ] Shop is filling up

2014-12-14 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
The place didn't come with a herd of feral cats?

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mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 What happens if you put poison blocks next to the tires?
 Mitch.

  On December 14, 2014 at 6:05 PM Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
  mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 
  Starting to fill up with cars. I'm going to have to build another shop
 at some
  point. Btw I leave the hoods up to cut down on rats nests. I need to
 work on
  the doors to keep mice out of the shop. I discovered a rats nest under
 the
  hood of the first car in within a couple of weeks. Started leaving the
 hoods
  up and so far they have not appear to be interested in the engine
  compartments.

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Re: [MBZ] Shop is filling up

2014-12-14 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
I got a big jumbo pack of just one bite, kills them quick. House had mice, 
found most or all of their holes and sealed them up and used the blocks, have 
not seen any signs of them in the house. Need to do the same in the shop. That 
other 115 I moved today had a massive nest from some sort of animal under the 
hood. The entire drivers side of the engine compartment was tightly packed with 
leaves. I cleaned all that out before attempting to start it because I did not 
want the cool wires on the glow plugs setting the leaves on fire. No wires were 
chewed but whatever was living under there did chew the entire positive battery 
connection off, damnedest thing I have seen. That is a big chunk of metal.

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 wrote:
 
 What happens if you put poison blocks next to the tires?
 Mitch. 
 
 On December 14, 2014 at 6:05 PM Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 
 Starting to fill up with cars. I'm going to have to build another shop at 
 some
 point. Btw I leave the hoods up to cut down on rats nests. I need to work on
 the doors to keep mice out of the shop. I discovered a rats nest under the
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 up and so far they have not appear to be interested in the engine
 compartments.
 
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Re: [MBZ] Shop is filling up

2014-12-14 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Well we have our 3 outside that may be helping keeping them from coming in the 
house. They eat 1-2 a day. I need to lock them up in the shop for a few days.

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 wrote:
 
 The place didn't come with a herd of feral cats?
 
 On Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 9:31 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
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 What happens if you put poison blocks next to the tires?
 Mitch.
 
 On December 14, 2014 at 6:05 PM Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 
 Starting to fill up with cars. I'm going to have to build another shop
 at some
 point. Btw I leave the hoods up to cut down on rats nests. I need to
 work on
 the doors to keep mice out of the shop. I discovered a rats nest under
 the
 hood of the first car in within a couple of weeks. Started leaving the
 hoods
 up and so far they have not appear to be interested in the engine
 compartments.
 
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Re: [MBZ] Shop is filling up

2014-12-14 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
Sounds  like pack rats.  I went to get some truck parts many years 
ago in the FLint hills of KS.  It was maybe within 60 miles of 
Manhattan.  Every truck had pack rat nests under the hood and each 
rat I saw run out was probably 4 to 8 lb.  as big as a cat.


You need a couple of rat terriers or jack russell terriers.  They 
will get rid of the rats.  Its what they were born to do.  The pack 
of barn cats will take care of the meeses.




I got a big jumbo pack of just one bite, kills them quick. House had 
mice, found most or all of their holes and sealed them up and used 
the blocks, have not seen any signs of them in the house. Need to do 
the same in the shop. That other 115 I moved today had a massive 
nest from some sort of animal under the hood. The entire drivers 
side of the engine compartment was tightly packed with leaves. I 
cleaned all that out before attempting to start it because I did not 
want the cool wires on the glow plugs setting the leaves on fire. No 
wires were chewed but whatever was living under there did chew the 
entire positive battery connection off, damnedest thing I have seen. 
That is a big chunk of metal.


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[MBZ] Cars in Crystal River, Florida

2014-12-14 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes


Stopped by an Indies little used car collection tonight and found the following:

Dan has worked his way up in the Mercedes marque to near the top and should be 
thinking about moving even higher with this beautiful Rolls. He would be the 
talk of the office if he drove this to work:

1985 Rolls Royce Corniche in perfect condition but needs dusting and polishing 
and detailing inside.  26K miles, $45K

2005 E-Class Mercedes sedan 103K miles, $10.5K

2007 M-Class Mercedes SUV 99K miles, $17K

1980 300D Mercedes 205K miles, One thousand dollars

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Re: [MBZ] Shop is filling up

2014-12-14 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
  Kaleb wrote:
 
  I leave the hoods up to cut
  down on rats nests.

 Mitch wrote:
 
 What happens if you put poison blocks next to the tires?

Poison _might_ diminish the rats population - but it will almost
certainly diminish their natural predators which can make the
problem worse.

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