Re: [MBZ] W123 turbodiesel leaky injectors OMG

2015-01-03 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
But o5nky eat if it is WVO or SVO. On Jan 3, 2015 3:47 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: You could eat off the return lines, they're that clean/new. On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 11:45 AM, ernest breakfield via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: i'd be replacing

Re: [MBZ] W123 turbodiesel leaky injectors OMG

2015-01-03 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
You could eat off the return lines, they're that clean/new. On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 11:45 AM, ernest breakfield via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: i'd be replacing the return lines now for sure; if you got any of that stuff on the return lines, they may well be shrinking up, and start

Re: [MBZ] W123 vs W140 (was: Re: W123 Crack o the day)

2015-01-03 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I can't speak for the W140 diesels, but for the gassers there is no shortage of parts. Some things, like the self-destructing wiring harnesses if you're unlucky enough to have a car that still has one, are in the aftermarket but getting harder to find as demand has dropped off. A lot of the

Re: [MBZ] Vintage Mercedes hotrods

2015-01-03 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I haven't received it yet but can hardly wait. You'd be amazed how many moving companies tried to recruit me after that caper. On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 1:14 PM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: For all you Star Magazine readers, check out the article Dream Cars in

Re: [MBZ] W123 vs W140 (was: Re: W123 Crack o the day)

2015-01-03 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
  Original Message   From: ernest breakfield via Mercedes Sent: Saturday, January 3, 2015 2:09 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Reply To: ernest breakfield Subject: [MBZ] W123 vs W140 (was: Re: W123 Crack o the day)      we need a car that we can use, not something that's a hobby to keep  running.

Re: [MBZ] hurry before it's gone!

2015-01-03 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I'm sure I can make it run. LOL. On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 2:08 PM, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On Sat, 03 Jan 2015 13:10:36 -0500 Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: From the limited description and photos it looks pretty good. I've never seen one of

Re: [MBZ] hurry before it's gone!

2015-01-03 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Sat, 03 Jan 2015 15:59:51 -0500 Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I dropped him a note asking if he as sure it was seized: Yes...have many years of engine rebuilding in my background. I wish him well. Parts for a rebuild will be pricey, I suspect. I would look

Re: [MBZ] OT - A COUNTRY BOY REMEMBERS - TOM NELMS FARM, PART I

2015-01-03 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
I had a friend some years ago who was Cubano, his parents sent him and a large number of his siblings to the US, alone, to live with various other random relatives and friends for some years until they could escape and reunite the family. Apparently this was quite common in the early years

Re: [MBZ] OT - A COUNTRY BOY REMEMBERS - TOM NELMS FARM, PART I

2015-01-03 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
Because the Vietnamese won. Cuber is still playing out. --R On 1/3/15 10:13 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote: I had a friend some years ago who was Cubano, his parents sent him and a large number of his siblings to the US, alone, to live with various other

Re: [MBZ] OT - A COUNTRY BOY REMEMBERS - TOM NELMS FARM, PART I

2015-01-03 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote: I had a friend some years ago who was Cubano, his parents sent him and a large number of his siblings to the US, alone, to live with various other random relatives and friends for some years until they could escape and reunite the family. Apparently this was

Re: [MBZ] W123 Crack o the day

2015-01-03 Thread Jon Agne via Mercedes
I’ll bet that he gets his price+, and it could very well be a subscriber to this list. On Jan 2, 2015, at 10:26 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I'll bet he gets his price, and further it won't be a subscriber of this list... Max Dillon, Charleston SC

Re: [MBZ] W123 Crack o the day

2015-01-03 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
I will give you 750 for your 300D Jon. On Jan 3, 2015 8:55 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Go for it Jon, I'll give you $500 for your 300D. :) Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list

Re: [MBZ] W123 Crack o the day

2015-01-03 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Go for it Jon, I'll give you $500 for your 300D. :) Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] I am sort of lusting

2015-01-03 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
If it were here I'd be there with cash already... Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] W123 vs W140 (was: Re: W123 Crack o the day)

2015-01-03 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
That was always the big claim to fame with mb was you could get parts for any car even back to the 40s and 50s. Not anymore. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 3, 2015, at 2:09 PM, ernest breakfield via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: agreed; much as i love our W123, i'm getting tired of

[MBZ] W123 vs W140 (was: Re: W123 Crack o the day)

2015-01-03 Thread ernest breakfield via Mercedes
agreed; much as i love our W123, i'm getting tired of stupid little parts becoming NLA. one of the reasons our family had been fond of diesel MBZs was because of their traditional ability to keep them in good running trim for so long; that seems to quickly becoming no longer the case. we

Re: [MBZ] W123 Crack o the day

2015-01-03 Thread WILTON via Mercedes
Yep, this a fine 123 example, and I'd love to have it, but maybe I'll get lucky and find an appropriate 126 or 211 before my 124 (140 kmi) craps out. ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent:

Re: [MBZ] OT - A COUNTRY BOY REMEMBERS - TOM NELMS FARM, PART I

2015-01-03 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
So what's the solution? On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 10:53 AM, WILTON via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Well, the N. Vietnamese received a gift courtesy of US Congress, anyway. Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To:

Re: [MBZ] W123 Crack o the day

2015-01-03 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
Tell 'im 'e's dreamin': http://youtu.be/dik_wnOE4dk Just kidding Jaime. Mine has the real hirschman replaced also. You will get big money for it if nice; unfortunately it is usually from the wvo boys with no intention of spending any money to maintain it, but to each their own. Some cook

Re: [MBZ] W123 vs W140 (was: Re: W123 Crack o the day)

2015-01-03 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
Aren't w210 bodies very rust prone? Spring perches etc.? Or is that only here in the salt belt? On Jan 3, 2015 4:50 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Based on what I know about them, it sounds like a W210 would be your best bet. I'm told by current owners that they are

Re: [MBZ] W123 vs W140 (was: Re: W123 Crack o the day)

2015-01-03 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Based on what I know about them, it sounds like a W210 would be your best bet. I'm told by current owners that they are good on gas and pretty rugged. Not a lot of electronics and fairly simple to work on. You might want to wander through the W210 forum over at Benzworld and see what people

Re: [MBZ] hurry before it's gone!

2015-01-03 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Hard telling without investigating. Unless there's a picture window in the side of the block, who knows what its problem is? If I came upon a car like this and knew nothing about it, I would first try barring it over to see if it would even turn. After that (if it didn't turn) I would run a

Re: [MBZ] hurry before it's gone!

2015-01-03 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Drop the M130 and put this in it: http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/pts/4817240624.html Dan On Jan 3, 2015, at 4:56 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Hard telling without investigating. Unless there's a picture window in the side of the block, who knows what its

Re: [MBZ] W123 vs W140 (was: Re: W123 Crack o the day)

2015-01-03 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
I have been seeing on the news people talking about the cheap gas and how they rushed out to buy big suv since the prices are low. They are idiots, it will be back up soon enough Sent from my iPhone On Jan 3, 2015, at 3:06 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

Re: [MBZ] hurry before it's gone!

2015-01-03 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Seized: Could he mean the cylinders and rings have rusted together from setting in a damp climate and never being run? On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 2:04 PM, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On Sat, 03 Jan 2015 15:59:51 -0500 Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I

Re: [MBZ] Secret message for OK Don

2015-01-03 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
The eagle has landed . . . Don On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 9:52 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The eagle is in the air... -Curt ___ -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! There are

Re: [MBZ] hurry before it's gone!

2015-01-03 Thread Jon Agne via Mercedes
I have a ’69 280SEL sitting behind my barn with a seized engine. On Jan 3, 2015, at 1:10 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: From the limited description and photos it looks pretty good. I've never seen one of those engines seized, so I'm wondering what the deal is

Re: [MBZ] W123 vs W140

2015-01-03 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote: I have been seeing on the news people talking about the cheap gas and how they rushed out to buy big suv since the prices are low. They are idiots, it will be back up soon enough Yep, now is the time to buy a used diesel or high mpg gasser. Fools'

Re: [MBZ] W123 turbodiesel leaky injectors OMG

2015-01-03 Thread ernest breakfield via Mercedes
i'd be replacing the return lines now for sure; if you got any of that stuff on the return lines, they may well be shrinking up, and start to pop off making an extra-special mess of the hood liner and everything else under the hood. i still didn't see howl old the return lines are; those

Re: [MBZ] OT - A COUNTRY BOY REMEMBERS - TOM NELMS FARM, PART I

2015-01-03 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
You should also remember that many of the self-exiles from Cuba had strong ties to United Fruit and the previous US puppet dictator, who imprisoned more people than Castro. Their main complaint seems to be that they were going to be forced to live like everyone else and not as

Re: [MBZ] OT - A COUNTRY BOY REMEMBERS - TOM NELMS FARM, PART I

2015-01-03 Thread WILTON via Mercedes
Well, the N. Vietnamese received a gift courtesy of US Congress, anyway. Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2015 10:33 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - A COUNTRY BOY REMEMBERS - TOM NELMS

Re: [MBZ] W123 Crack o the day

2015-01-03 Thread WILTON via Mercedes
I'm mighty tempted, but I'd really rather have a nice 126 like the 350SDL with MB crate engine I let get away several months ago by procrastinating coupla days too long. Wilton - Original Message - From: Jon Agne via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Meade Dillon

Re: [MBZ] W123 Crack o the day

2015-01-03 Thread Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes
They better hurry... I might have a deal with someone local! Jaime On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 7:51 AM, Jon Agne via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I’ll bet that he gets his price+, and it could very well be a subscriber to this list. On Jan 2, 2015, at 10:26 PM, Meade Dillon via

Re: [MBZ] hurry before it's gone!

2015-01-03 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
From the limited description and photos it looks pretty good. I've never seen one of those engines seized, so I'm wondering what the deal is there, or if that's really the case. Dan On Jan 3, 2015, at 1:04 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: ‎You're not going to

[MBZ] Vintage Mercedes hotrods

2015-01-03 Thread dseretakis--- via Mercedes
For all you Star Magazine readers, check out the article Dream Cars in Paradise in the Jan/Feb edition. Here my friend (Andrew's friend too), Gael, shows off his modified pagoda and w111 coupe. I'm proud to say that I played a small role in their creation as well. And come to think of it so did

Re: [MBZ] hurry before it's gone!

2015-01-03 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
‎You're not going to buy it?  You've been wanting a sedan.  :) Rick Sent from my BlackBerry Z10    ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

[MBZ] hurry before it's gone!

2015-01-03 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
http://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/4790178027.html Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All

Re: [MBZ] W123 vs W140 (was: Re: W123 Crack o the day)

2015-01-03 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I believe these are the chassis' with the spring perch issue, but that being the case its like the W140 disintegrating wiring harnesses - you know exactly what to look for and can immediately disqualify a car. Others who know better than I will comment, I'm sure. Dan On Jan 3, 2015, at

Re: [MBZ] W123 Crack o the day

2015-01-03 Thread Karl W via Mercedes
Tell 'im 'e's dreamin': http://youtu.be/dik_wnOE4dk Just kidding Jaime. Mine has the real hirschman replaced also. You will get big money for it if nice; unfortunately it is usually from the wvo boys with no intention of spending any money to maintain it, but to each their own. Some cook from

Re: [MBZ] Secret message for OK Don

2015-01-03 Thread WILTON via Mercedes
Pkg via USPS? Wilton - Original Message - From: OK Don via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2015 5:28 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Secret message for OK Don The eagle has

Re: [MBZ] W123 vs W140 (was: Re: W123 Crack o the day)

2015-01-03 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
‎ On Jan 3, 2015, at 5:36 PM, Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com wrote:   Aren't w210 bodies very rust prone?  Spring perches etc.? Or is that only here in the salt belt? Yes.  That said, the 4-matic cars don't have that issue, and I would think a non rust belt car would not have that

Re: [MBZ] W123 vs W140 (was: Re: W123 Crack o the day)

2015-01-03 Thread dseretakis--- via Mercedes
Yes they are truly awful. They are pretty rock solid mechanically though and have nice interiors. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 3, 2015, at 5:36 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Aren't w210 bodies very rust prone? Spring perches etc.? Or is that only here in the

Re: [MBZ] W123 vs W140

2015-01-03 Thread Tom Savage via Mercedes
On Jan 3, 2015 5:16 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Yep, now is the time to buy a used diesel or high mpg gasser. I sure thought I was clever buying the E320 Bluetec last summer when gas was still expensive and diesel was close to parity with premium. I like the car

Re: [MBZ] W123 vs W140

2015-01-03 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
The car to get is the 05-06 cdi straight 6, better mileage more reliable than the v6 blue tec Sent from my iPhone On Jan 3, 2015, at 6:28 PM, Tom Savage via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On Jan 3, 2015 5:16 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Yep, now is

Re: [MBZ] W123 vs W140

2015-01-03 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
Tom wrote: I sure thought I was clever buying the E320 Bluetec last summer when gas was still expensive and diesel was close to parity with premium. I like the car but with a 50 cent price differential and a disappointing 30.3 mpg it will be a while before I get to feel clever again. Is

Re: [MBZ] W123 vs W140

2015-01-03 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
Tom wrote: I sure thought I was clever buying the E320 Bluetec last summer when gas was still expensive and diesel was close to parity with premium. I like the car but with a 50 cent price differential and a disappointing 30.3 mpg it will be a while before I get to feel clever again. On my

Re: [MBZ] W123 vs W140

2015-01-03 Thread Tom Savage via Mercedes
Yeah but they have those goofy brakes and besides, I couldn't find any that didn't have a zillion miles and spotty service history. The Bluetec only had 36k miles on it, and all records from the dealer. The V6 is more complicated but doesn't seem to be less reliable. Tom On Jan 3, 2015 6:31

Re: [MBZ] W123 nozzle numbers (was turbodiesel leaky injectors OMG)

2015-01-03 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
Anybody here run the 315 injector nozzles in an om617a? If so, any difference? And what about the stronger overflow spring- anybody try one? Thanks. On Dec 26, 2014 9:43 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: As I was fiddling under the hood to disconnect the monovalve

Re: [MBZ] W123 vs W140

2015-01-03 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
I had one of those engines in my GL and did not have problems I was told by a reliable mb guy they are disposable. They are not built as well as the old straight 6 Sent from my iPhone On Jan 3, 2015, at 6:48 PM, Tom Savage tesav...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah but they have those goofy brakes and

Re: [MBZ] OT - A COUNTRY BOY REMEMBERS - TOM NELMS FARM, PART I

2015-01-03 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
Let the Mafia take it over again, build some hotels, restaurants, theaters, casinos, etc. and let it go! Probably would not be a lot different except everyone would be making more money. --R On 1/3/15 3:45 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: So what's the solution? On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 10:53

Re: [MBZ] hurry before it's gone!

2015-01-03 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
There's gotta be a rusted out W108 280SE out there begging to have it's engine repurposed On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 5:05 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Drop the M130 and put this in it: http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/pts/4817240624.html Dan On Jan 3, 2015,

Re: [MBZ] W123 Crack o the day

2015-01-03 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Cracked me up. I love Aussie humor. On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 3:18 PM, Karl W via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Tell 'im 'e's dreamin': http://youtu.be/dik_wnOE4dk Just kidding Jaime. Mine has the real hirschman replaced also. You will get big money for it if nice; unfortunately it

Re: [MBZ] Secret message for OK Don

2015-01-03 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Getting warm... Might be Fedex. On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 6:39 PM, WILTON via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Pkg via USPS? Wilton - Original Message - From: OK Don via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List

Re: [MBZ] W123 vs W140

2015-01-03 Thread Tom Savage via Mercedes
On Jan 3, 2015 6:45 PM, fmiser via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Is fuel price the only reason you choose to drive a diesel? For me it's not. I choose diesel engines for a lot of other reasons, so now that gasoline is cheap (for a while) I loose one of the lesser benefits. Modern

Re: [MBZ] W123 vs W140

2015-01-03 Thread ernest breakfield via Mercedes
yeah, that worked for me on the Fuel Sender unit (eventually), but i hope Andrew has it in his garage! isn't a long-term strategy for me for a vehicle i need in regular use.;-) cheers! e On 03/Jan/15 12:50, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: Hey, all you W123 people whining about

Re: [MBZ] W123 vs W140

2015-01-03 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
That's what i hope to find in a couple years. Meanwhile My 124 2.5t runs like new gets 29mpg. On Jan 3, 2015 7:31 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The car to get is the 05-06 cdi straight 6, better mileage more reliable than the v6 blue tec Sent from my iPhone

Re: [MBZ] W123 vs W140

2015-01-03 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
The fuel prices will continue to flip around for years to come. Do not make long term plans, or regret past decisions based on the current aberration or variations in prices. Enjoy the Diesel engine for the technical master piece that it is, and that it is not the same as every other engine on the

Re: [MBZ] W123 vs W140

2015-01-03 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
Amen. On Jan 3, 2015 11:23 PM, OK Don via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The fuel prices will continue to flip around for years to come. Do not make long term plans, or regret past decisions based on the current aberration or variations in prices. Enjoy the Diesel engine for the

Re: [MBZ] OT: Bourbon and New Year

2015-01-03 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
I'm rather fond of Wild Turkey. I've seen three different grades, over the years. Not surprisingly, the most expensive was the best. (Rare Breed?) I have not done any kind of exhaustive search. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] hurry before it's gone!

2015-01-03 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
On Sat, 03 Jan 2015 13:10:36 -0500 Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: From the limited description and photos it looks pretty good. I've never seen one of those engines seized, so I'm wondering what the deal is there, or if that's really the case. Motor appears to be

Re: [MBZ] hurry before it's gone!

2015-01-03 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
From the limited description and photos it looks pretty good. I've never seen one of those engines seized, so I'm wondering what the deal is there, or if that's really the case. Dan It'd be a nice car with an OM603 in there. Plenty of room for that engine.