Re: [MBZ] Mental Health

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

$1.00

> On May 15, 2018, at 11:00 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
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> How much cash will you give me in addition?
> 
> 
>> On 5/15/2018 9:55 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> Sure. I’ll swap for the POS W124 convertible.  You’ll be doing it a favor 
>> and saving it from it’s inevitable demise when Regina drives it.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On May 15, 2018, at 10:44 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Then you will be ready to send the car to okie acres.
>>> 
>>> 
 On 5/15/2018 9:42 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
 Both front seats are recovered and back in the car.  Headliner to the 
 upholstery shop tomorrow and we’re almost done.
 
 Blog update tomorrow.  I’m pooped.
 
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[MBZ] What's this car worth?

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Tricky business:  BAT nice pastel gray 280E, super boring but slightly
rare.  Some rust yet otherwise clean.  Totally not a collector car --- or
is it?

Let's see who can guess the closest.  I predict $4150.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1978-mercedes-benz-280e-2/
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Re: [MBZ] Here's a good solution to excess disposable income

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You should totally get that, hire yourself a driver and go around in the 
ultimate style...

-Curt
 

On Wednesday, May 16, 2018, 10:40:14 AM EDT, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 62 Rolls temptress on BAT.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1962-rolls-royce-silver-cloud/?utm_source=dailymail_medium=email_campaign=2018-05-16
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Re: [MBZ] 240D window seals.

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

CHECK YOUR FIREWALL GROMMETS!

On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 10:15 PM, Dimitri via Mercedes <
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> I didn’t replace those but they are important to replace if you don’t want
> your door bottoms to rust out! In the meantime I douse the inside of the
> door bottoms with Fluid Film!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> > On May 15, 2018, at 9:17 PM, Dwight Giles 
> wrote:
> >
> > I would bet that too. I have to get some side window seals for my 300
> CD. Will call classic center.
> >
> > Dwight Giles Jr.
> > Wickford RI
> >
> >> On May 15, 2018 8:19 PM, "Dimitri via Mercedes" 
> wrote:
> >> We had some torrential rain here in MA today- a good test for the newly
> installed front and rear window seals. And they didn’t leak! It’s been so
> long since I’ve had a w123 with watertight windows!
> >>
> >> There is a trickle of water coming from passenger side footwell under
> the dash. I bet it’s rust under the battery tray. Time for some POR-15 and
> fiberglass!
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] What's this car worth?

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The W124 wagon also appears to sport a broken antenna.

On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 11:04 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
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>
>
> Does BAT accept ads from curbstoners?
>
> This turbodiesel W124 wagon is offered in Wayne, Maine with a clean Carfax
> report, a Connecticut title in the previous owner’s name, and a bill of
> sale.
>
> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1987-mercedes-benz-300td-4/
>
>
> 2 stroke Saab:
> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1963-saab-96-2/
>
> $75,151 bid placed by Gentlejackjones
>
> Gentlejackjones 155
> Oh God…  I meant 7,515!! I did not mean 75,151!!!
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Re: [MBZ] OT A Hero of Mother's Day

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Yes - Randy.  You interpret me correctly.

Besides, the Washington (D.C.) Nationals kicked the AZ Diamonbacks'
proverbial butts recently in a four game sweep at Chase Field.  GO NATS.

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> WA used to have open carry, but some whinger near the State Capitol was
> made nervous by a gun rack in a pickup truck, and got them to change it.
> For The Children, or some such.  Things are much safer now, I'm sure real
> statistics will back that up.  After all, that was the intention!
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Re: [MBZ] What's this car worth?

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Does BAT accept ads from curbstoners?

This turbodiesel W124 wagon is offered in Wayne, Maine with a clean Carfax 
report, a Connecticut title in the previous owner’s name, and a bill of sale.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1987-mercedes-benz-300td-4/


2 stroke Saab:
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1963-saab-96-2/

$75,151 bid placed by Gentlejackjones

Gentlejackjones 155
Oh God…  I meant 7,515!! I did not mean 75,151!!!

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Re: [MBZ] Here's a good solution to excess disposable income

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Moi?  Sounds like a great gig for my eventual retirement.

On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 11:15 AM, Curt Raymond  wrote:

> You should totally get that, hire yourself a driver and go around in the
> ultimate style...
>
> -Curt
>
>
> On Wednesday, May 16, 2018, 10:40:14 AM EDT, Andrew Strasfogel via
> Mercedes  wrote:
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>
> 62 Rolls temptress on BAT.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Mental Health

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I purchased my dash pullers from a dealer 20 years ago and paid under $20
for the set.  They are amazingly handy.

On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 5:31 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes 
wrote:

> $1.00
>
> > On May 15, 2018, at 11:00 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > How much cash will you give me in addition?
> >
> >
> >> On 5/15/2018 9:55 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> >> Sure. I’ll swap for the POS W124 convertible.  You’ll be doing it a
> favor and saving it from it’s inevitable demise when Regina drives it.
> >>
> >> -D
> >>
> >>> On May 15, 2018, at 10:44 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Then you will be ready to send the car to okie acres.
> >>>
> >>>
>  On 5/15/2018 9:42 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>  Both front seats are recovered and back in the car.  Headliner to the
> upholstery shop tomorrow and we’re almost done.
> 
>  Blog update tomorrow.  I’m pooped.
> 
>  -D
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[MBZ] Here's a good solution to excess disposable income

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

62 Rolls temptress on BAT.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1962-rolls-royce-silver-cloud/?utm_source=dailymail_medium=email_campaign=2018-05-16
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Re: [MBZ] Here's a good solution to excess disposable income

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

"He believes the paint and interior have been changed but can not verify 
what the original color combination was."


The Roller club has access to all the factory info, easy enough to get 
those details.  Wonder why he didn't?  There are a few folks who bring 
their old Rollers and Bentleys to the C who talk about that stuff


--FT


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62 Rolls temptress on BAT.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1962-rolls-royce-silver-cloud/?utm_source=dailymail_medium=email_campaign=2018-05-16
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[MBZ] I Want

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

Anyone near Middletown, NY?

https://tinyurl.com/ydxywul2

-D
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Re: [MBZ] I Want

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That baby is a keeper.  W108 long wheelbase sedan, six cylinder, fuel injected. 
 You can’t ask for more.

-D

> On May 16, 2018, at 12:41 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Why? There's not enough left to do. You'd be bored with it within a week.
> 
> On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 11:36 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes > wrote:
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>> Anyone near Middletown, NY?
>> 
>> https://tinyurl.com/ydxywul2
>> 
>> -D
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Re: [MBZ] Here's a good solution to excess disposable income

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Yes I do, but look at what I drive:  I am the ultimate
pragmatist/cheapskate.

On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 2:08 PM, Dimitri  wrote:

> What are you waiting for? You are always bringing the Rolls Royces to our
> attention here. I think you really want one!
>
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> > 62 Rolls temptress on BAT.
> >
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Re: [MBZ] I Want

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

BZZT - WRONG!  It's a six.  4.5 and 3.5 denote V8.

This car began its life in my neck of the woods: it was serviced in
Bethesda, MD at McNey Motors, which begat EuroMotorcars.

Very nice but not worth $10k.

On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 1:03 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
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> V8
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> > On May 16, 2018, at 11:47 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > That baby is a keeper.  W108 long wheelbase sedan, six cylinder, fuel
> injected.  You can’t ask for more.
> >
> > -D
> >
> >> On May 16, 2018, at 12:41 PM, OK Don via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Why? There's not enough left to do. You'd be bored with it within a
> week.
> >>
> >> On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 11:36 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com
> >>> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Anyone near Middletown, NY?
> >>>
> >>> https://tinyurl.com/ydxywul2
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> who
> >> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
> >> for themselves."
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] Here's a good solution to excess disposable income

[Dimitri via Mercedes]

So is your white 300TD getting any more rusty from all that winter use?

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> On May 16, 2018, at 2:18 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
> 
> Yes I do, but look at what I drive:  I am the ultimate pragmatist/cheapskate.
> 
>> On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 2:08 PM, Dimitri  wrote:
>> What are you waiting for? You are always bringing the Rolls Royces to our 
>> attention here. I think you really want one!
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>> > On May 16, 2018, at 10:40 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>> >  wrote:
>> > 
>> > 62 Rolls temptress on BAT.
>> > 
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Re: [MBZ] Very odd electrical issue in SDL

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Over-voltage protection relay.

-
Max
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Re: [MBZ] Very odd electrical issue in SDL

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Maybe, that is easy to check

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> On May 16, 2018, at 1:48 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
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> 
> Loose battery connection?
> 
> On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 2:29 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
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>>> On 16/05/2018 1:25 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
>>> 
>>> Over-voltage protection relay.
>>> 
>>> -
>>> Max
>>> 
>> 
>> And, if so, then maybe the alternator and/or voltage regulator?
>> 
>> RB
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Re: [MBZ] Here's a good solution to excess disposable income

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Even more fun - -

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1946-aeronca-7ac-champ/


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> 62 Rolls temptress on BAT.
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[MBZ] Very odd electrical issue in SDL

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

So I took the SDL on a road trip today and made a quick stop. When I got back 
in the car and started it up, got back on the highway and set cruise everything 
was fine. With the cruise in when I turned on turn signal I noticed cruise 
would cut out for a quick second then kick back in. Just enough to cause a 
surge. I also have the low washer fluid light on and it would blink at the same 
time. Also, the acc seemed to cut out right when I hit the signal also. I tried 
turning the key back off slightly while driving and it didn’t help. I did it a 
couple more times and it got worse. It started cutting off and on constantly 
like the low light was blinking and the srs light started blinking. Cruise 
would surge off and on and acc would cut off and on. I decided to get off the 
road and locate a parts store in case something was up with the battery. I 
wanted to shut it off and restart it but wanted to be at a parts store in case 
the battery was dead or something. As I was getting off the highway and slowing 
down, as it was coming to idle the engine would buck. Like the idle control was 
cutting in and out or something. When I came to a complete stop everything 
returned to normal. As soon as I started moving again it starting doing the 
same thing. I got to a parts store and there also was a HF across the street. 
That was lucky in case I need to work on the car. I shut the car off and 
started it back up without issue. After the restart everything was back to 
normal with no issues. What is the common item here with all these systems? I’m 
think it’s got to be the ignition switch is getting flakey. I guess I will 
change it out when I get home. 

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Re: [MBZ] What's this car worth?

[Dimitri via Mercedes]

Wonder if it breaks the 5K barrier.

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> On May 16, 2018, at 2:17 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
> 
> 2 hrs. left and stuck below $4k.
> 
>> On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 1:30 PM, Dimitri  wrote:
>> I think it’s kinda boring because of the pastel gray and blue interior. My 
>> pastel gray 240D not as boring because it has a parchment interior which is 
>> a rare and weird color combo. Manny tranny also helps.
>> 
>> Read the comments- many people seem to love the color for some reason. The 
>> car is super clean and had a crapload of work done to it by Stu Ritter. I 
>> should fetch 7K in my opinion but sadly probably won’t. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> > On May 16, 2018, at 10:37 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>> >  wrote:
>> > 
>> > Tricky business:  BAT nice pastel gray 280E, super boring but slightly
>> > rare.  Some rust yet otherwise clean.  Totally not a collector car --- or
>> > is it?
>> > 
>> > Let's see who can guess the closest.  I predict $4150.
>> > 
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Re: [MBZ] Very odd electrical issue in SDL

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Loose battery connection?

On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 2:29 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> On 16/05/2018 1:25 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> Over-voltage protection relay.
>>
>> -
>> Max
>>
>
> And, if so, then maybe the alternator and/or voltage regulator?
>
> RB
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Re: [MBZ] What's this car worth?

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Kinda doubt it.  No pizzazz.

On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 2:26 PM, Dimitri  wrote:

> Wonder if it breaks the 5K barrier.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 16, 2018, at 2:17 PM, Andrew Strasfogel 
> wrote:
>
> 2 hrs. left and stuck below $4k.
>
> On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 1:30 PM, Dimitri  wrote:
>
>> I think it’s kinda boring because of the pastel gray and blue interior.
>> My pastel gray 240D not as boring because it has a parchment interior which
>> is a rare and weird color combo. Manny tranny also helps.
>>
>> Read the comments- many people seem to love the color for some reason.
>> The car is super clean and had a crapload of work done to it by Stu Ritter.
>> I should fetch 7K in my opinion but sadly probably won’t.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> > On May 16, 2018, at 10:37 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Tricky business:  BAT nice pastel gray 280E, super boring but slightly
>> > rare.  Some rust yet otherwise clean.  Totally not a collector car ---
>> or
>> > is it?
>> >
>> > Let's see who can guess the closest.  I predict $4150.
>> >
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Re: [MBZ] Very odd electrical issue in SDL

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

Nope. Not interested.  I’ll trade for the W124 convertible, though.

-D

> On May 16, 2018, at 2:18 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> From your back 40 to Dan's in FL.
> 
> On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 2:16 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> 
>> It’s junk.  Move it to the back 40.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On May 16, 2018, at 2:13 PM, Craig via Mercedes 
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Wed, 16 May 2018 12:02:05 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
 As I was getting off the highway and slowing down, as it was coming to
 idle the engine would buck. Like the idle control was cutting in and
 out or something. When I came to a complete stop everything returned to
 normal. As soon as I started moving again it starting doing the same
 thing. I got to a parts store and there also was a HF across the
 street. That was lucky in case I need to work on the car. I shut the
 car off and started it back up without issue. After the restart
 everything was back to normal with no issues. What is the common item
 here with all these systems? I’m think it’s got to be the ignition
 switch is getting flakey. I guess I will change it out when I get home.
>>> 
>>> But how would the ignition switch know whether the vehicle was moving or
>>> not?
>>> 
>>> That's really weird!
>>> 
>>> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] Here's a good solution to excess disposable income

[Dimitri via Mercedes]

What are you waiting for? You are always bringing the Rolls Royces to our 
attention here. I think you really want one!

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> 62 Rolls temptress on BAT.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Very odd electrical issue in SDL

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

It’s junk.  Move it to the back 40.

-D

> On May 16, 2018, at 2:13 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 16 May 2018 12:02:05 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
>  wrote:
> 
>> As I was getting off the highway and slowing down, as it was coming to
>> idle the engine would buck. Like the idle control was cutting in and
>> out or something. When I came to a complete stop everything returned to
>> normal. As soon as I started moving again it starting doing the same
>> thing. I got to a parts store and there also was a HF across the
>> street. That was lucky in case I need to work on the car. I shut the
>> car off and started it back up without issue. After the restart
>> everything was back to normal with no issues. What is the common item
>> here with all these systems? I’m think it’s got to be the ignition
>> switch is getting flakey. I guess I will change it out when I get home. 
> 
> But how would the ignition switch know whether the vehicle was moving or
> not?
> 
> That's really weird!
> 
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] Very odd electrical issue in SDL

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From your back 40 to Dan's in FL.

On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 2:16 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes 
wrote:

> It’s junk.  Move it to the back 40.
>
> -D
>
> > On May 16, 2018, at 2:13 PM, Craig via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, 16 May 2018 12:02:05 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
> >  wrote:
> >
> >> As I was getting off the highway and slowing down, as it was coming to
> >> idle the engine would buck. Like the idle control was cutting in and
> >> out or something. When I came to a complete stop everything returned to
> >> normal. As soon as I started moving again it starting doing the same
> >> thing. I got to a parts store and there also was a HF across the
> >> street. That was lucky in case I need to work on the car. I shut the
> >> car off and started it back up without issue. After the restart
> >> everything was back to normal with no issues. What is the common item
> >> here with all these systems? I’m think it’s got to be the ignition
> >> switch is getting flakey. I guess I will change it out when I get home.
> >
> > But how would the ignition switch know whether the vehicle was moving or
> > not?
> >
> > That's really weird!
> >
> > Craig
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Re: [MBZ] Here's a good solution to excess disposable income

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Yes, alas.  I may have to take care of this.

Are you still making house calls?

On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 2:25 PM, Dimitri  wrote:

> So is your white 300TD getting any more rusty from all that winter use?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On May 16, 2018, at 2:18 PM, Andrew Strasfogel 
> wrote:
>
> Yes I do, but look at what I drive:  I am the ultimate
> pragmatist/cheapskate.
>
> On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 2:08 PM, Dimitri  wrote:
>
>> What are you waiting for? You are always bringing the Rolls Royces to our
>> attention here. I think you really want one!
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> > On May 16, 2018, at 10:40 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > 62 Rolls temptress on BAT.
>> >
>> > https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1962-rolls-royce-silver-
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Re: [MBZ] Mental Health

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Rust . . .

On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 9:45 PM, Dimitri via Mercedes  wrote:

> What do all these cars do at okie acres?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> > On May 15, 2018, at 10:44 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Then you will be ready to send the car to okie acres.
> >
> >
> >> On 5/15/2018 9:42 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> >> Both front seats are recovered and back in the car.  Headliner to the
> upholstery shop tomorrow and we’re almost done.
> >>
> >> Blog update tomorrow.  I’m pooped.
> >>
> >> -D
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Re: [MBZ] I Want

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

V8

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> On May 16, 2018, at 11:47 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> That baby is a keeper.  W108 long wheelbase sedan, six cylinder, fuel 
> injected.  You can’t ask for more.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On May 16, 2018, at 12:41 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Why? There's not enough left to do. You'd be bored with it within a week.
>> 
>> On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 11:36 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes >> wrote:
>> 
>>> Anyone near Middletown, NY?
>>> 
>>> https://tinyurl.com/ydxywul2
>>> 
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>> 
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>> for themselves."
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Re: [MBZ] What's this car worth?

[Dimitri via Mercedes]

I think it’s kinda boring because of the pastel gray and blue interior. My 
pastel gray 240D not as boring because it has a parchment interior which is a 
rare and weird color combo. Manny tranny also helps.

Read the comments- many people seem to love the color for some reason. The car 
is super clean and had a crapload of work done to it by Stu Ritter. I should 
fetch 7K in my opinion but sadly probably won’t. 

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> On May 16, 2018, at 10:37 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Tricky business:  BAT nice pastel gray 280E, super boring but slightly
> rare.  Some rust yet otherwise clean.  Totally not a collector car --- or
> is it?
> 
> Let's see who can guess the closest.  I predict $4150.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] What's this car worth?

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

2 hrs. left and stuck below $4k.

On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 1:30 PM, Dimitri  wrote:

> I think it’s kinda boring because of the pastel gray and blue interior. My
> pastel gray 240D not as boring because it has a parchment interior which is
> a rare and weird color combo. Manny tranny also helps.
>
> Read the comments- many people seem to love the color for some reason. The
> car is super clean and had a crapload of work done to it by Stu Ritter. I
> should fetch 7K in my opinion but sadly probably won’t.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On May 16, 2018, at 10:37 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Tricky business:  BAT nice pastel gray 280E, super boring but slightly
> > rare.  Some rust yet otherwise clean.  Totally not a collector car --- or
> > is it?
> >
> > Let's see who can guess the closest.  I predict $4150.
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Very odd electrical issue in SDL

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

On 16/05/2018 1:25 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

Over-voltage protection relay.

-
Max


And, if so, then maybe the alternator and/or voltage regulator?

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Re: [MBZ] E300td oel and EGR?

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Well I put a new fuel filter on and it started but was struggling to run before 
now the damn thing won’t start at all. I filled the filter with fuel as when I 
put the new one on it wouldn’t start and the new filter did not have any fuel 
in it when I took it off again. I’m wondering if the fuel pump is inop. I 
checked what seems to be the fuse under the seat and it looked ok but I did not 
CHANGE THE FUSE. 

The old filter looked clean and fairly new, fuel in it was clean. 

This is the other weird deal, there are these staggered fuses in both boxes 
(and there might be another one somewhere). So every other slot is numbered but 
then in between the numbered slots are fuses of different amps that are 
staggered across to other slots. One leg is where the numbered fuse is, the 
other is in a middle row. I can’t figure that out, they don’t have other 
numbers. I’m not sure what these are for. 

--R
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> On May 16, 2018, at 6:12 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> You will need to use synthetic if you are going to go by the FSS for oil 
> changes 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On May 16, 2018, at 4:48 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I got a filter yesterday and going to change the oel in this dizzel.  I'm 
>> guessing cheepcheep Delvac will be fine?  Don't want to go M1 and pay for 
>> that.
>> 
>> I also got the Kumhos mounted on it, have not taken it out yet as it is 
>> running badly now, again, going out to change the fuel filter and see if 
>> that helps.  The tires look pretty good, no telling how they will be but if 
>> they last a while it's all good.
>> 
>> I heard the vac valve or whatever it is on the fender that is connected to 
>> the EGR making some kind of gurgling noise so wonder if the EGR is not 
>> working right now.  I pulled the hose and it hissed so there was vacuum in 
>> the hoses, I guess those are OK.  I think I'll just do the rewiring bypass 
>> on the EGR and be done with it but need to get organized to do that.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Here's a good solution to excess disposable income

[OK Don via Mercedes]

I used to, but would have to look it up now - too many years ago.

On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 2:55 PM, G Mann via Mercedes 
wrote:

> OK, tech test time.
> Who here knows the special knot you use to tie the tail wheel, that runs to
> the rope you run to the cockpit, that will let you hand prop an airplane,
> safely, then climb in, strap in, pull the tail wheel rope release, take in
> the rope, and let you taxi away to fly?
>
>
> On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 12:40 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > "Hand propped to start"
> > Contact!
> >
> > -Curt
> >
> >
> > On Wednesday, May 16, 2018, 12:33:16 PM EDT, OK Don via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >  Even more fun - -
> >
> > https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1946-aeronca-7ac-champ/
> >
> >
> > On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 9:40 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > > 62 Rolls temptress on BAT.
> > >
> > > https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1962-rolls-royce-
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> who
> > learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
> > for themselves."
> >
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> > 2013 F150, 18 mpg
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[MBZ] 240 D manny $1200

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

In the Mercedes W123 (North America) FB group by a guy called Anton Koncaba 
Lincoln NE

Selling my 82 240D, manual everything. New looking seats out of the same year 
300D. 272,000 miles, shows no sign of powertrain problems. Some rust but mostly 
cosmetic, exhaust rattles and the muffler is in the trunk with most of an 
exhaust to replace the current. Needs rear shocks but planning on putting some 
on in a week or 2 unless a buyer is ok as is. I've been using as a daily for 9 
months, block heater works great. New battery in Dec. Vacuum system needs all 
new lines. Asking $1200, shittier Pontiac's go for that much. Honestly would be 
a great project car, just enough is wrong that it'd be a joy to restore and 
probably wouldn't cost much. Except the windshield would cost a bit, you don't 
notice it while driving but it's delaminated in a couple spots you can see in 
the picture.

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Re: [MBZ] E300td oel and EGR?

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Same here, I usually went 12,000 miles, and analysis indicated that 15,000
was easily possible. Soot was the most significant level, but was still
good in both OM602 and OM603 engines. Even with the oil sucker, I don't
like changing oil . . .

On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 7:05 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
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> You're not wasting it on a 60x engine. Oil analysis of the two 601s I had
> suggested they could handily go 10,000miles on Mobil 1 between changes.I
> mean I guess if you really like changing the oil...
>
> Curt
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>
>   On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 2:52 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes<
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:   You’re wasting your money putting Mobil1
> in the diesel.  Delvac or Delo 400 at Dead Sam’s will be more than adequate
> and far less expensive.
>
> -D
>
> > On May 16, 2018, at 5:48 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I got a filter yesterday and going to change the oel in this dizzel.
> I'm guessing cheepcheep Delvac will be fine?  Don't want to go M1 and pay
> for that.
> >
> > I also got the Kumhos mounted on it, have not taken it out yet as it is
> running badly now, again, going out to change the fuel filter and see if
> that helps.  The tires look pretty good, no telling how they will be but if
> they last a while it's all good.
> >
> > I heard the vac valve or whatever it is on the fender that is connected
> to the EGR making some kind of gurgling noise so wonder if the EGR is not
> working right now.  I pulled the hose and it hissed so there was vacuum in
> the hoses, I guess those are OK.  I think I'll just do the rewiring bypass
> on the EGR and be done with it but need to get organized to do that.
> >
> > --
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Re: [MBZ] I Want

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Why? There's not enough left to do. You'd be bored with it within a week.

On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 11:36 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes  wrote:

> Anyone near Middletown, NY?
>
> https://tinyurl.com/ydxywul2
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Re: [MBZ] Here's a good solution to excess disposable income

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Forget it - not your color.

On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 12:33 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  wrote:

> Even more fun - -
>
> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1946-aeronca-7ac-champ/
>
>
> On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 9:40 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > 62 Rolls temptress on BAT.
> >
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> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
> for themselves."
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Re: [MBZ] Very odd electrical issue in SDL

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Wed, 16 May 2018 12:02:05 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
 wrote:

> As I was getting off the highway and slowing down, as it was coming to
> idle the engine would buck. Like the idle control was cutting in and
> out or something. When I came to a complete stop everything returned to
> normal. As soon as I started moving again it starting doing the same
> thing. I got to a parts store and there also was a HF across the
> street. That was lucky in case I need to work on the car. I shut the
> car off and started it back up without issue. After the restart
> everything was back to normal with no issues. What is the common item
> here with all these systems? I’m think it’s got to be the ignition
> switch is getting flakey. I guess I will change it out when I get home. 

But how would the ignition switch know whether the vehicle was moving or
not?

That's really weird!

Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Very odd electrical issue in SDL

[OK Don via Mercedes]

I second the motion . . . OVPR.

On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 1:25 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
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> Over-voltage protection relay.
>
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] E300td oel and EGR?

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

I'll give you $500 and make all your troubles go away...
-- 
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'87 300TD
'95 E300

On May 16, 2018 7:04:34 PM EDT, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>Well I put a new fuel filter on and it started but was struggling to
>run before now the damn thing won’t start at all. I filled the filter
>with fuel as when I put the new one on it wouldn’t start and the new
>filter did not have any fuel in it when I took it off again. I’m
>wondering if the fuel pump is inop. I checked what seems to be the fuse
>under the seat and it looked ok but I did not CHANGE THE FUSE. 
>
>The old filter looked clean and fairly new, fuel in it was clean. 
>
>This is the other weird deal, there are these staggered fuses in both
>boxes (and there might be another one somewhere). So every other slot
>is numbered but then in between the numbered slots are fuses of
>different amps that are staggered across to other slots. One leg is
>where the numbered fuse is, the other is in a middle row. I can’t
>figure that out, they don’t have other numbers. I’m not sure what these
>are for. 
>
>--R
>Sent from iPhone
>
>> On May 16, 2018, at 6:12 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
> wrote:
>> 
>> You will need to use synthetic if you are going to go by the FSS for
>oil changes 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 16, 2018, at 4:48 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I got a filter yesterday and going to change the oel in this dizzel.
>I'm guessing cheepcheep Delvac will be fine?  Don't want to go M1 and
>pay for that.
>>> 
>>> I also got the Kumhos mounted on it, have not taken it out yet as it
>is running badly now, again, going out to change the fuel filter and
>see if that helps.  The tires look pretty good, no telling how they
>will be but if they last a while it's all good.
>>> 
>>> I heard the vac valve or whatever it is on the fender that is
>connected to the EGR making some kind of gurgling noise so wonder if
>the EGR is not working right now.  I pulled the hose and it hissed so
>there was vacuum in the hoses, I guess those are OK.  I think I'll just
>do the rewiring bypass on the EGR and be done with it but need to get
>organized to do that.
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> --FT
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Re: [MBZ] E300td oel and EGR?

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

You're not wasting it on a 60x engine. Oil analysis of the two 601s I had 
suggested they could handily go 10,000miles on Mobil 1 between changes.I mean I 
guess if you really like changing the oil...

Curt

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  On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 2:52 PM, Dan Penoff via 
Mercedes wrote:   You’re wasting your money putting 
Mobil1 in the diesel.  Delvac or Delo 400 at Dead Sam’s will be more than 
adequate and far less expensive.

-D

> On May 16, 2018, at 5:48 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I got a filter yesterday and going to change the oel in this dizzel.  I'm 
> guessing cheepcheep Delvac will be fine?  Don't want to go M1 and pay for 
> that.
> 
> I also got the Kumhos mounted on it, have not taken it out yet as it is 
> running badly now, again, going out to change the fuel filter and see if that 
> helps.  The tires look pretty good, no telling how they will be but if they 
> last a while it's all good.
> 
> I heard the vac valve or whatever it is on the fender that is connected to 
> the EGR making some kind of gurgling noise so wonder if the EGR is not 
> working right now.  I pulled the hose and it hissed so there was vacuum in 
> the hoses, I guess those are OK.  I think I'll just do the rewiring bypass on 
> the EGR and be done with it but need to get organized to do that.
> 
> -- 
> --FT
> 
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[MBZ] Removing stuck alternator (ML350)

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

So, I loosen up the belt, take out the two alternator bolts, then remove the 
alternator from the mount, tip it pulley down and disconnect the cables, right?

What do I do when, after removing the bolts, the alternator only wants to pivot 
around the bottom mounting ear instead of coming loose, and prying doesn't 
dislodge it?

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] E300D/2.5 Turbo Belt Tensioner

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What about the threads needs cleaning?  Are they damaged, or simply have 
sealant residue?
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Re: [MBZ] E300D/2.5 Turbo Belt Tensioner

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On Wed, 16 May 2018 20:45:38 -0400 Max Dillon via Mercedes
 wrote:

> What about the threads needs cleaning?  Are they damaged, or simply
> have sealant residue?

There is oil everywhere.

I'm guessing it will cause problems with the Threadlocker Blue.


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Re: [MBZ] E300td oel and EGR?

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

So here we go again. My line of thinking has been that if you go synthetic over 
Dino, can you double the internal? For example earlier engines like 617 and 603 
have a factory 5k interval. Could you go 10k on those with synthetic? Later 
engines such as 606 have a 7500 mile interval, so could those go 14-15k? I am 
thinking so but others have said that is crazy don’t go more than 5k on M1 
since it’s a group 3. If you go amsoil or one of those that’s group 4 you can 
probably go 10-15k on. If I can double the interval it’s with it to me. I don’t 
really need the cold start benefit. I am not sure if it’s a benefit on a 2-300k 
mile engine that has ran on Dino it’s whole life. 

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> On May 16, 2018, at 7:05 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> You're not wasting it on a 60x engine. Oil analysis of the two 601s I had 
> suggested they could handily go 10,000miles on Mobil 1 between changes.I mean 
> I guess if you really like changing the oil...
> 
> Curt
> 
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
> 
>  On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 2:52 PM, Dan Penoff via 
> Mercedes wrote:   You’re wasting your money putting 
> Mobil1 in the diesel.  Delvac or Delo 400 at Dead Sam’s will be more than 
> adequate and far less expensive.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On May 16, 2018, at 5:48 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I got a filter yesterday and going to change the oel in this dizzel.  I'm 
>> guessing cheepcheep Delvac will be fine?  Don't want to go M1 and pay for 
>> that.
>> 
>> I also got the Kumhos mounted on it, have not taken it out yet as it is 
>> running badly now, again, going out to change the fuel filter and see if 
>> that helps.  The tires look pretty good, no telling how they will be but if 
>> they last a while it's all good.
>> 
>> I heard the vac valve or whatever it is on the fender that is connected to 
>> the EGR making some kind of gurgling noise so wonder if the EGR is not 
>> working right now.  I pulled the hose and it hissed so there was vacuum in 
>> the hoses, I guess those are OK.  I think I'll just do the rewiring bypass 
>> on the EGR and be done with it but need to get organized to do that.
>> 
>> -- 
>> --FT
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Re: [MBZ] Removing stuck alternator (ML350)

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Wed, 16 May 2018 20:45:43 -0400 (EDT) Mitch Haley via Mercedes
 wrote:

> So, I loosen up the belt, take out the two alternator bolts, then
> remove the alternator from the mount, tip it pulley down and disconnect
> the cables, right?
> 
> What do I do when, after removing the bolts, the alternator only wants
> to pivot around the bottom mounting ear instead of coming loose, and
> prying doesn't dislodge it?

This is with the pivot bolt completely out, I presume.

Can you get a long metal rod, place it on the alternator casting where
the pivot bolt goes through, and give it a good whack with a 2# hammer?

If that doesn't work, you would want to remove the metal which has
cold-flowed and locked it in place. I can't imagine that there is any
room to get a file or a grinder in there. Could you chuck up a small
shaft-mounted grinding stone which grinds on the end opposite the shaft
in a drill and have at it with that?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] E300D/2.5 Turbo Belt Tensioner

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Wed, 16 May 2018 19:58:09 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
 wrote:

> Autozone sells a nice socket set that has that 12mm socket.

Socket? Or socket-drive allen wrench?

The latter is what is needed in this case.


> I have never heard of putting sealant on the treads, I never have done
> it but I suppose it makes sense. You can probably use whatever thread
> sealant is available.

That's what 13-3200hw.pdf says to do.


> I’m sure there is a spec for how tight to tighten the bolt, you want it
> tight but don’t overtighten it because you don’t want to strip out the
> hole.

The spec is 100 Nm (73.8 ft-lbf). Yes, stripping out the hole would be
bad ...


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Removing stuck alternator (ML350)

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Tapped on the upper mounting ear of the alternator, forward then back then 
forward again, with the 32oz ball peen. Opened up enough room to pull it out of 
the bottom mount. 

That was quick. 
I'll finish taking it out when it's lighter outside in the AM, but it looks 
like it is not a Bosch. Valeo?

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] E300td oel and EGR?

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

I know. I could do worse.


Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On May 16, 2018 9:13 PM, "Craig via Mercedes"  wrote:

> On Wed, 16 May 2018 21:10:44 -0400 Dwight Giles via Mercedes
>  wrote:
>
> > I agree with Curt. When Larry T was doing oil analysis I had my M1
> > tested in the 602 @ 12k miles & it had 75% soot capacity left. I am a
> > believer but won't start an oel thread.
>
> Too late; you already have.  :-)
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] E300D/2.5 Turbo Belt Tensioner

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On May 16, 2018 at 9:11 PM Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> > Autozone sells a nice socket set that has that 12mm socket.
> 
> Socket? Or socket-drive allen wrench?

I bought a 3 pc set at Autozone for $10 about 15 years ago. 
The big one is 17mm, I think the middle one is 14mm, so the small one might be 
12 or 13.

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Re: [MBZ] E300D/2.5 Turbo Belt Tensioner

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

It’s an Allen drive wrench for 3/8 ratchet. Might be 1/2 inch now that I think 
about it.

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> On May 16, 2018, at 8:11 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 16 May 2018 19:58:09 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
>  wrote:
> 
>> Autozone sells a nice socket set that has that 12mm socket.
> 
> Socket? Or socket-drive allen wrench?
> 
> The latter is what is needed in this case.
> 
> 
>> I have never heard of putting sealant on the treads, I never have done
>> it but I suppose it makes sense. You can probably use whatever thread
>> sealant is available.
> 
> That's what 13-3200hw.pdf says to do.
> 
> 
>> I’m sure there is a spec for how tight to tighten the bolt, you want it
>> tight but don’t overtighten it because you don’t want to strip out the
>> hole.
> 
> The spec is 100 Nm (73.8 ft-lbf). Yes, stripping out the hole would be
> bad ...
> 
> 
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] E300td oel and EGR?

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

How long ago was that? Reason I ask is because at some point m1 changed from 
group 4 to group 3 base oil

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> On May 16, 2018, at 8:10 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I agree with Curt. When Larry T was doing oil analysis I had my M1 tested
> in the 602 @ 12k miles & it had 75% soot capacity left. I am a believer but
> won't start an oel thread.
> 
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> 1982 300CD M1 15w 50
> 2005 E320 M1 0w 30
> Wickford RI
> 
> On May 16, 2018 8:05 PM, "Curt Raymond via Mercedes" 
> wrote:
> 
>> You're not wasting it on a 60x engine. Oil analysis of the two 601s I had
>> suggested they could handily go 10,000miles on Mobil 1 between changes.I
>> mean I guess if you really like changing the oil...
>> 
>> Curt
>> 
>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>> 
>>  On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 2:52 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes<
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:   You’re wasting your money putting Mobil1
>> in the diesel.  Delvac or Delo 400 at Dead Sam’s will be more than adequate
>> and far less expensive.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On May 16, 2018, at 5:48 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I got a filter yesterday and going to change the oel in this dizzel.
>> I'm guessing cheepcheep Delvac will be fine?  Don't want to go M1 and pay
>> for that.
>>> 
>>> I also got the Kumhos mounted on it, have not taken it out yet as it is
>> running badly now, again, going out to change the fuel filter and see if
>> that helps.  The tires look pretty good, no telling how they will be but if
>> they last a while it's all good.
>>> 
>>> I heard the vac valve or whatever it is on the fender that is connected
>> to the EGR making some kind of gurgling noise so wonder if the EGR is not
>> working right now.  I pulled the hose and it hissed so there was vacuum in
>> the hoses, I guess those are OK.  I think I'll just do the rewiring bypass
>> on the EGR and be done with it but need to get organized to do that.
>>> 
>>> --
>>> --FT
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Here's a good solution to excess disposable income

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There was once a flying club near the University of Florida at a small field.
The members would crack the throttle on an old 40 hp J-3 Cub, prop it, and then 
run around and get in before it started moving.
One day a ministerial student cracked the throttle from wide open instead of 
idle, the plane started rolling, and he grabbed the end of a wing as it went by 
and hung on. The plane made a full circle and ran into the side of the hangar.
The plane wasn't heavily damaged, and the student wasn't hurt, but the members 
bought out his share of the flying club and suggested he take up another 
pastime.

The 40 hp J-3 was an interesting plane. In a strong headwind you could almost 
take off straight up. If you were flying to another town, you had better not go 
if you had a strong headwind. You could run out of fuel or daylight before you 
got there. That might have been because the engine wasn't in the best condition.
An auto mechanic down the road did the maintainence and rebuilds and the A and 
E at the city airport signed off on them. That was back around 1960.
Gerry

OK Donwrote:
> I used to, but would have to look it up now - too many years ago.
> 
> On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 2:55 PM, G Mann via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> 
> > OK, tech test time.
> > Who here knows the special knot you use to tie the tail wheel, that runs to
> > the rope you run to the cockpit, that will let you hand prop an airplane,
> > safely, then climb in, strap in, pull the tail wheel rope release, take in
> > the rope, and let you taxi away to fly?
> >
> >
> > On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 12:40 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > > "Hand propped to start"
> > > Contact!
> > >
> > > -Curt
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wednesday, May 16, 2018, 12:33:16 PM EDT, OK Don via Mercedes <
> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >  Even more fun - -
> > >
> > > https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1946-aeronca-7ac-champ/
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 9:40 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > 62 Rolls temptress on BAT.
> > > >
> > > > https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1962-rolls-royce-
> > > > silver-cloud/?utm_source=dailymail_medium=email&
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> > >
> > > *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many
> > of
> > > our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
> > >
> > > "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few
> > who
> > > learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
> > > for themselves."
> > >
> > > WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
> > > 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> > > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
> > > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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> our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
> 
> "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
> for themselves."
> 
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Re: [MBZ] E300D/2.5 Turbo Belt Tensioner

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Autozone sells a nice socket set that has that 12mm socket. I have never heard 
of putting sealant on the treads, I never have done it but I suppose it makes 
sense. You can probably use whatever thread sealant is available. I’m sure 
there is a spec for how tight to tighten the bolt, you want it tight but don’t 
overtighten it because you don’t want to strip out the hole.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 16, 2018, at 7:38 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> I looked at the sections of the manual I posted a few days ago:
> 
>13-1202hw.pdf
>13-3200hw.pdf
>13-343.pdf
> 
> and everything looked quite confusing.
> 
> Searching on the Web, though, I found:
> 
> http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/312419-diy-1987-300d-serpentine-belt-tensioner-replacement.html
> 
> with that, it didn't seem so confusing, so I took a closer look at the
> belt tensioner on the front of the OM602 in our '90 E300D/2.5 Turbo and
> found it was quite loose.
> 
> I went down to the local heavy truck repair shop (appropriately called
> The Shop) which has done work on my trucks (and whose employees I have
> befriended) and asked to borrow a socket-drive 12 mm allen wrench. They
> had one and let me bring it home to use it.
> 
> I removed the bolt holding the idler pulley using my own 6 mm
> socket-drive allen wrench and a 1/2" breaker bar. Yes, it was
> appropriately tight so I did need the breaker bar.
> 
> I then removed removed the bolt and nut holding the top end of the spring
> with a 13 mm socket.
> 
> I then put the 12 mm socket-drive Allen wrench on the breaker bar and
> proceeded to loosen the bolt holding the tensioning lever to the front
> cover. But it took hardly any torque to turn it! It turns out the bolt
> was loose!
> 
> I have taken it out and found an oily mess, probably because the threaded
> hole is open to the inside of the engine.
> 
> 13-3200hw.pdf says to apply Omnifit 100 M orange sealant to the threads
> to seal the threads and lock the bolt in place, but I don't have any of
> that.
> 
> I'll have to clean up the threads in the front cover the best I can
> somehow (anyone have any ideas?) and then use the Permatex Medium
> Strength Threadlocker Blue I have.
> 
> I did notice that the two "end covers" to keep the dirt out of the allen
> recesses of the bolts were missing.
> 
> 
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] E300D/2.5 Turbo Belt Tensioner

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Ah, brake cleaner on a rag, any that gets into the oil will evaporate.
-- 
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Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On May 16, 2018 8:47:26 PM EDT, Craig via Mercedes  
wrote:
>
>There is oil everywhere.
>
>I'm guessing it will cause problems with the Threadlocker Blue.
>
>

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Re: [MBZ] E300td oel and EGR?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Good quality diesel oil like Delo 400 LE is cheap.  I can do a complete change 
with Delo 400 LE on the 95 E300D for under $35 every 5000 miles and not have 
concerns.  If I used Mobil1 it would be near twice the cost.  Since Mobil1 is a 
group 3 base stock it’s not that much better than conventional dino juice in my 
opinion.

Oh yeah, if I drop another $20 on oil analysis I’ve driven my costs up even 
more.

-D


> On May 16, 2018, at 8:50 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> So here we go again. My line of thinking has been that if you go synthetic 
> over Dino, can you double the internal? For example earlier engines like 617 
> and 603 have a factory 5k interval. Could you go 10k on those with synthetic? 
> Later engines such as 606 have a 7500 mile interval, so could those go 
> 14-15k? I am thinking so but others have said that is crazy don’t go more 
> than 5k on M1 since it’s a group 3. If you go amsoil or one of those that’s 
> group 4 you can probably go 10-15k on. If I can double the interval it’s with 
> it to me. I don’t really need the cold start benefit. I am not sure if it’s a 
> benefit on a 2-300k mile engine that has ran on Dino it’s whole life. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 16, 2018, at 7:05 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>> > wrote:
>> 
>> You're not wasting it on a 60x engine. Oil analysis of the two 601s I had 
>> suggested they could handily go 10,000miles on Mobil 1 between changes.I 
>> mean I guess if you really like changing the oil...
>> 
>> Curt
>> 
>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
>> 
>> On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 2:52 PM, Dan Penoff via 
>> Mercedes> wrote:   
>> You’re wasting your money putting Mobil1 in the diesel.  Delvac or Delo 400 
>> at Dead Sam’s will be more than adequate and far less expensive.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On May 16, 2018, at 5:48 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I got a filter yesterday and going to change the oel in this dizzel.  I'm 
>>> guessing cheepcheep Delvac will be fine?  Don't want to go M1 and pay for 
>>> that.
>>> 
>>> I also got the Kumhos mounted on it, have not taken it out yet as it is 
>>> running badly now, again, going out to change the fuel filter and see if 
>>> that helps.  The tires look pretty good, no telling how they will be but if 
>>> they last a while it's all good.
>>> 
>>> I heard the vac valve or whatever it is on the fender that is connected to 
>>> the EGR making some kind of gurgling noise so wonder if the EGR is not 
>>> working right now.  I pulled the hose and it hissed so there was vacuum in 
>>> the hoses, I guess those are OK.  I think I'll just do the rewiring bypass 
>>> on the EGR and be done with it but need to get organized to do that.
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Removing stuck alternator (ML350)

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On May 16, 2018 at 8:51 PM Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> This is with the pivot bolt completely out, I presume.

No pivots, tensioner pulley is elsewhere, but yes, both bolts completely 
removed. Could get a rod as long as one of the bolts in there, but that's about 
it. Fan and radiator still in place. 

Would be a little afraid of breaking the mounting ear off the timing cover if I 
gave it a stout whack with a 2lb. The front half of the upper mount has a split 
steel sleeve pressed into it, I'm not sure if the lower mount has the same. 
Could probably make more clearance if I could make the sleeve move forward a 
hair.

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Re: [MBZ] E300td oel and EGR?

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Wed, 16 May 2018 21:10:44 -0400 Dwight Giles via Mercedes
 wrote:

> I agree with Curt. When Larry T was doing oil analysis I had my M1
> tested in the 602 @ 12k miles & it had 75% soot capacity left. I am a
> believer but won't start an oel thread.

Too late; you already have.  :-)


Craig

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[MBZ] E300D/2.5 Turbo Belt Tensioner

[Craig via Mercedes]

I looked at the sections of the manual I posted a few days ago:

13-1202hw.pdf
13-3200hw.pdf
13-343.pdf

and everything looked quite confusing.

Searching on the Web, though, I found:

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/312419-diy-1987-300d-serpentine-belt-tensioner-replacement.html

with that, it didn't seem so confusing, so I took a closer look at the
belt tensioner on the front of the OM602 in our '90 E300D/2.5 Turbo and
found it was quite loose.

I went down to the local heavy truck repair shop (appropriately called
The Shop) which has done work on my trucks (and whose employees I have
befriended) and asked to borrow a socket-drive 12 mm allen wrench. They
had one and let me bring it home to use it.

I removed the bolt holding the idler pulley using my own 6 mm
socket-drive allen wrench and a 1/2" breaker bar. Yes, it was
appropriately tight so I did need the breaker bar.

I then removed removed the bolt and nut holding the top end of the spring
with a 13 mm socket.

I then put the 12 mm socket-drive Allen wrench on the breaker bar and
proceeded to loosen the bolt holding the tensioning lever to the front
cover. But it took hardly any torque to turn it! It turns out the bolt
was loose!

I have taken it out and found an oily mess, probably because the threaded
hole is open to the inside of the engine.

13-3200hw.pdf says to apply Omnifit 100 M orange sealant to the threads
to seal the threads and lock the bolt in place, but I don't have any of
that.

I'll have to clean up the threads in the front cover the best I can
somehow (anyone have any ideas?) and then use the Permatex Medium
Strength Threadlocker Blue I have.

I did notice that the two "end covers" to keep the dirt out of the allen
recesses of the bolts were missing.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] E300td oel and EGR?

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

I agree with Curt. When Larry T was doing oil analysis I had my M1 tested
in the 602 @ 12k miles & it had 75% soot capacity left. I am a believer but
won't start an oel thread.

Dwight Giles Jr.
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2005 E320 M1 0w 30
Wickford RI

On May 16, 2018 8:05 PM, "Curt Raymond via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> You're not wasting it on a 60x engine. Oil analysis of the two 601s I had
> suggested they could handily go 10,000miles on Mobil 1 between changes.I
> mean I guess if you really like changing the oil...
>
> Curt
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>
>   On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 2:52 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes<
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:   You’re wasting your money putting Mobil1
> in the diesel.  Delvac or Delo 400 at Dead Sam’s will be more than adequate
> and far less expensive.
>
> -D
>
> > On May 16, 2018, at 5:48 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I got a filter yesterday and going to change the oel in this dizzel.
> I'm guessing cheepcheep Delvac will be fine?  Don't want to go M1 and pay
> for that.
> >
> > I also got the Kumhos mounted on it, have not taken it out yet as it is
> running badly now, again, going out to change the fuel filter and see if
> that helps.  The tires look pretty good, no telling how they will be but if
> they last a while it's all good.
> >
> > I heard the vac valve or whatever it is on the fender that is connected
> to the EGR making some kind of gurgling noise so wonder if the EGR is not
> working right now.  I pulled the hose and it hissed so there was vacuum in
> the hoses, I guess those are OK.  I think I'll just do the rewiring bypass
> on the EGR and be done with it but need to get organized to do that.
> >
> > --
> > --FT
> >
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Re: [MBZ] E300D/2.5 Turbo Belt Tensioner

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Wed, 16 May 2018 20:58:57 -0400 Max Dillon via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Ah, brake cleaner on a rag, any that gets into the oil will evaporate.

And I actually happen to have some of that around here!

Thanks, Max.


Craig


> On May 16, 2018 8:47:26 PM EDT, Craig via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> >
> >There is oil everywhere.
> >
> >I'm guessing it will cause problems with the Threadlocker Blue.

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Re: [MBZ] Removing stuck alternator (ML350)

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Wed, 16 May 2018 21:12:12 -0400 (EDT) Mitch Haley via Mercedes
 wrote:

> 
> Tapped on the upper mounting ear of the alternator, forward then back
> then forward again, with the 32oz ball peen. Opened up enough room to
> pull it out of the bottom mount. 
> 
> That was quick.

Congratulations!!!


> I'll finish taking it out when it's lighter outside in the AM, but it
> looks like it is not a Bosch. Valeo?

You will, of course, have to report back with the manufacturer and model
number.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] E300D/2.5 Turbo Belt Tensioner

[OK Don via Mercedes]

When I replaced the belt tensioner on that engine shortly after I bought
the car, I used brake cleaner to remove the oil, then blue Locktite on the
bolt. Apparently it didn't hold so well - - - probably needed better/more
cleaning.

On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 8:15 PM, Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:

> On Wed, 16 May 2018 20:58:57 -0400 Max Dillon via Mercedes
>  wrote:
>
> > Ah, brake cleaner on a rag, any that gets into the oil will evaporate.
>
> And I actually happen to have some of that around here!
>
> Thanks, Max.
>
>
> Craig
>
>
> > On May 16, 2018 8:47:26 PM EDT, Craig via Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > >There is oil everywhere.
> > >
> > >I'm guessing it will cause problems with the Threadlocker Blue.
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[MBZ] 1980 300d $2500

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

I dont know this car but it coukd be pretty rust free.

https://nextdoor.com/for_sale_and_free/1b9f9140-00a9-461f-abbe-da94f0ad4c56/?init_source=share
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Re: [MBZ] Here's a good solution to excess disposable income

[G Mann via Mercedes]

I did my solo flight in a 40 hp cub, at age 9... to short to reach the wing
tip, just big enough to hand prop the 40 hp. Rule was, always tie the tail.
safety first. Throttle friction set was not always reliable, and solo hand
prop safety required the tail be tied...

The rope trick worked perfectly. I could prop the plane, do engine warm
up... do run up to mag checks, then "pull the rope" and go fly.. Always
carried a ground stake along with the rope, "just in case" I made an off
field landing.  40 hp cub is a great way to build hours... lots of hours..
;))
and learn patience, since they were sloww... but forgiving...

Great memories.

On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 7:48 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes <
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> There was once a flying club near the University of Florida at a small
> field.
> The members would crack the throttle on an old 40 hp J-3 Cub, prop it, and
> then run around and get in before it started moving.
> One day a ministerial student cracked the throttle from wide open instead
> of idle, the plane started rolling, and he grabbed the end of a wing as it
> went by and hung on. The plane made a full circle and ran into the side of
> the hangar.
> The plane wasn't heavily damaged, and the student wasn't hurt, but the
> members bought out his share of the flying club and suggested he take up
> another pastime.
>
> The 40 hp J-3 was an interesting plane. In a strong headwind you could
> almost take off straight up. If you were flying to another town, you had
> better not go if you had a strong headwind. You could run out of fuel or
> daylight before you got there. That might have been because the engine
> wasn't in the best condition.
> An auto mechanic down the road did the maintainence and rebuilds and the A
> and E at the city airport signed off on them. That was back around 1960.
> Gerry
>
> OK Donwrote:
> > I used to, but would have to look it up now - too many years ago.
> >
> > On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 2:55 PM, G Mann via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > OK, tech test time.
> > > Who here knows the special knot you use to tie the tail wheel, that
> runs to
> > > the rope you run to the cockpit, that will let you hand prop an
> airplane,
> > > safely, then climb in, strap in, pull the tail wheel rope release,
> take in
> > > the rope, and let you taxi away to fly?
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 12:40 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > "Hand propped to start"
> > > > Contact!
> > > >
> > > > -Curt
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Wednesday, May 16, 2018, 12:33:16 PM EDT, OK Don via Mercedes
> <
> > > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >  Even more fun - -
> > > >
> > > > https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1946-aeronca-7ac-champ/
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 9:40 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> > > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > 62 Rolls temptress on BAT.
> > > > >
> > > > > https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1962-rolls-royce-
> > > > > silver-cloud/?utm_source=dailymail_medium=email&
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> > > >
> > > > *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and
> many
> > > of
> > > > our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
> > > >
> > > > "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The
> few
> > > who
> > > > learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric
> fence
> > > > for themselves."
> > > >
> > > > WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
> > > > 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> > > > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
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Re: [MBZ] Here's a good solution to excess disposable income

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

I'd use the magic disappearing knot that Dad used to entertain the neighborhood 
kids.
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On May 16, 2018 3:55:10 PM EDT, G Mann via Mercedes  
wrote:
>OK, tech test time.
>Who here knows the special knot you use to tie the tail wheel, that
>runs to
>the rope you run to the cockpit, that will let you hand prop an
>airplane,
>safely, then climb in, strap in, pull the tail wheel rope release, take
>in
>the rope, and let you taxi away to fly?
>
>

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Re: [MBZ] Very odd electrical issue in SDL

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

My first thought was a bad ground in the dash.
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[MBZ] E300td oel and EGR?

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I got a filter yesterday and going to change the oel in this dizzel.  
I'm guessing cheepcheep Delvac will be fine?  Don't want to go M1 and 
pay for that.


I also got the Kumhos mounted on it, have not taken it out yet as it is 
running badly now, again, going out to change the fuel filter and see if 
that helps.  The tires look pretty good, no telling how they will be but 
if they last a while it's all good.


I heard the vac valve or whatever it is on the fender that is connected 
to the EGR making some kind of gurgling noise so wonder if the EGR is 
not working right now.  I pulled the hose and it hissed so there was 
vacuum in the hoses, I guess those are OK.  I think I'll just do the 
rewiring bypass on the EGR and be done with it but need to get organized 
to do that.


--
--FT


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Re: [MBZ] E300td oel and EGR?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

You’re wasting your money putting Mobil1 in the diesel.  Delvac or Delo 400 at 
Dead Sam’s will be more than adequate and far less expensive.

-D

> On May 16, 2018, at 5:48 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I got a filter yesterday and going to change the oel in this dizzel.  I'm 
> guessing cheepcheep Delvac will be fine?  Don't want to go M1 and pay for 
> that.
> 
> I also got the Kumhos mounted on it, have not taken it out yet as it is 
> running badly now, again, going out to change the fuel filter and see if that 
> helps.  The tires look pretty good, no telling how they will be but if they 
> last a while it's all good.
> 
> I heard the vac valve or whatever it is on the fender that is connected to 
> the EGR making some kind of gurgling noise so wonder if the EGR is not 
> working right now.  I pulled the hose and it hissed so there was vacuum in 
> the hoses, I guess those are OK.  I think I'll just do the rewiring bypass on 
> the EGR and be done with it but need to get organized to do that.
> 
> -- 
> --FT
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Very odd electrical issue in SDL

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Wed, 16 May 2018 17:44:42 -0400 Max Dillon via Mercedes
 wrote:

> My first thought was a bad ground in the dash.

That was mine, too, but the more symptoms I read, the less I thought it
was a bad ground.

I could be wrong; it would not be the first time ...


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Won't leave out of first gear

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Yes, but it’s a crap class.  Why spend the money?

-D


> On May 16, 2018, at 4:39 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> This is the cheapest I've ever fixed one for:
> https://www.amazon.com/Mercedes-Transmission-Connector-Adapter-Genuine/dp/B00DOCVVVI
> 
> (and it's second gear, not first)
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Re: [MBZ] Very odd electrical issue in SDL

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

It seems like a grounding issue to me. But it only happened that once.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 16, 2018, at 5:06 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 16 May 2018 17:44:42 -0400 Max Dillon via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
>> My first thought was a bad ground in the dash.
> 
> That was mine, too, but the more symptoms I read, the less I thought it
> was a bad ground.
> 
> I could be wrong; it would not be the first time ...
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] E300td oel and EGR?

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

You will need to use synthetic if you are going to go by the FSS for oil 
changes 

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 16, 2018, at 4:48 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I got a filter yesterday and going to change the oel in this dizzel.  I'm 
> guessing cheepcheep Delvac will be fine?  Don't want to go M1 and pay for 
> that.
> 
> I also got the Kumhos mounted on it, have not taken it out yet as it is 
> running badly now, again, going out to change the fuel filter and see if that 
> helps.  The tires look pretty good, no telling how they will be but if they 
> last a while it's all good.
> 
> I heard the vac valve or whatever it is on the fender that is connected to 
> the EGR making some kind of gurgling noise so wonder if the EGR is not 
> working right now.  I pulled the hose and it hissed so there was vacuum in 
> the hoses, I guess those are OK.  I think I'll just do the rewiring bypass on 
> the EGR and be done with it but need to get organized to do that.
> 
> -- 
> --FT
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Here's a good solution to excess disposable income

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

"Hand propped to start"
Contact!

-Curt
 

On Wednesday, May 16, 2018, 12:33:16 PM EDT, OK Don via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Even more fun - -

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1946-aeronca-7ac-champ/


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> 62 Rolls temptress on BAT.
>
> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1962-rolls-royce-
> silver-cloud/?utm_source=dailymail_medium=email&
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Re: [MBZ] Here's a good solution to excess disposable income

[Dimitri via Mercedes]

Wish I had the time!

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> On May 16, 2018, at 2:47 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
> 
> Yes, alas.  I may have to take care of this. 
> 
> Are you still making house calls?
> 
>> On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 2:25 PM, Dimitri  wrote:
>> So is your white 300TD getting any more rusty from all that winter use?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 16, 2018, at 2:18 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes I do, but look at what I drive:  I am the ultimate 
>>> pragmatist/cheapskate.
>>> 
 On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 2:08 PM, Dimitri  wrote:
 What are you waiting for? You are always bringing the Rolls Royces to our 
 attention here. I think you really want one!
 
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 > 
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Re: [MBZ] Very odd electrical issue in SDL

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

his battery is a looser

--FT


On 5/16/18 2:48 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

Loose battery connection?

On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 2:29 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


On 16/05/2018 1:25 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:


Over-voltage protection relay.

-
Max


And, if so, then maybe the alternator and/or voltage regulator?

RB


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[MBZ] the cabin interior headliner has been removed and a dolphin painted in its place

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Might be worth dickering down some for a fun ride

https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/mercedes-benz-convertible/6589847638.html

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[MBZ] my phone won't go sideways

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

so I can only get half the car in the picture

https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/1998-mercedes-e320/6568458266.html

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Re: [MBZ] the cabin interior headliner has been removed and a dolphin painted in its place

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Car driven by trust fund kids.

On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 4:48 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
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> > On May 16, 2018 at 4:42 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > hmmm maybe I should go look at it for grins, see what I could do with it
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Very odd electrical issue in SDL

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The only theory I have is that the switch did not ground out something and 
maybe the amount of output from the alternator varies with rpm. What was really 
strange is that if I had it in neutral it did not start the lights blinking off 
and on, but would with actual vehicle speed. So maybe that was related to the 
speed sensor somehow. I have never seen this issue before 

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> On May 16, 2018, at 1:13 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 16 May 2018 12:02:05 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
>  wrote:
> 
>> As I was getting off the highway and slowing down, as it was coming to
>> idle the engine would buck. Like the idle control was cutting in and
>> out or something. When I came to a complete stop everything returned to
>> normal. As soon as I started moving again it starting doing the same
>> thing. I got to a parts store and there also was a HF across the
>> street. That was lucky in case I need to work on the car. I shut the
>> car off and started it back up without issue. After the restart
>> everything was back to normal with no issues. What is the common item
>> here with all these systems? I’m think it’s got to be the ignition
>> switch is getting flakey. I guess I will change it out when I get home. 
> 
> But how would the ignition switch know whether the vehicle was moving or
> not?
> 
> That's really weird!
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Re: [MBZ] Very odd electrical issue in SDL

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

All I can say is that after leaving my stop earlier the car is doing like it 
should with no issues. 

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> On May 16, 2018, at 1:29 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
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> 
>> On 16/05/2018 1:25 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
>> Over-voltage protection relay.
>> 
>> -
>> Max
> 
> And, if so, then maybe the alternator and/or voltage regulator?
> 
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Re: [MBZ] the cabin interior headliner has been removed and a dolphin painted in its place

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That is not a bad deal especially since it’s a crashbox.  They’re not easy to 
find in this model.

-D


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> Might be worth dickering down some for a fun ride
> 
> https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/mercedes-benz-convertible/6589847638.html
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[MBZ] Mercedes G- Wagon needs work if intersed call

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/2003-mercedes-wagon-g500/6583634118.html

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Re: [MBZ] Won't leave out of first gear

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

This is the cheapest I've ever fixed one for:
https://www.amazon.com/Mercedes-Transmission-Connector-Adapter-Genuine/dp/B00DOCVVVI

(and it's second gear, not first)

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Re: [MBZ] What's this car worth?

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Wow - a bidding frenzy set in among the lurkers.  Stupid money/boring car..

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> And the winner is...dseretakis for $6500.
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Re: [MBZ] Here's a good solution to excess disposable income

[G Mann via Mercedes]

OK, tech test time.
Who here knows the special knot you use to tie the tail wheel, that runs to
the rope you run to the cockpit, that will let you hand prop an airplane,
safely, then climb in, strap in, pull the tail wheel rope release, take in
the rope, and let you taxi away to fly?


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> "Hand propped to start"
> Contact!
>
> -Curt
>
>
> On Wednesday, May 16, 2018, 12:33:16 PM EDT, OK Don via Mercedes <
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>
>  Even more fun - -
>
> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1946-aeronca-7ac-champ/
>
>
> On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 9:40 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > 62 Rolls temptress on BAT.
> >
> > https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1962-rolls-royce-
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[MBZ] 1981 Mercedes 240 D sedan 4speed " RARE " - $3300 (LEXINGTON SC)

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

seems a little sketchy

https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/1981-mercedes-240-sedan/6580754272.html

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Re: [MBZ] What's this car worth?

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

And the winner is...dseretakis for $6500.

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Re: [MBZ] Here's a good solution to excess disposable income

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Wed, 16 May 2018 12:55:10 -0700 G Mann via Mercedes
 wrote:

> OK, tech test time.
> Who here knows the special knot you use to tie the tail wheel, that
> runs to the rope you run to the cockpit, that will let you hand prop an
> airplane, safely, then climb in, strap in, pull the tail wheel rope
> release, take in the rope, and let you taxi away to fly?

I, for one, do not know and will be interested in the answer.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] the cabin interior headliner has been removed and a dolphin painted in its place

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> On May 16, 2018 at 4:42 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> hmmm maybe I should go look at it for grins, see what I could do with it
> 

Don't forget to take a picture of the dolphin.

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Re: [MBZ] 1981 Mercedes 240 D sedan 4speed " RARE " - $3300 (LEXINGTON SC)

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No books or records!  No sunroof!!

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> seems a little sketchy
>
> https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/1981-mercedes-240-se
> dan/6580754272.html
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Re: [MBZ] Here's a good solution to excess disposable income

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HA, you're not even remotely a cheapskate. I'm a cheapskate, I've been driving 
my $1500, '98 Jetta for 4 years now on basically no money, its been the most 
economical vehicle I've ever had even surpassing my $400 240D which needed way 
more in repairs. I've put ~90,000 miles on it so far (290,000) and other than 
the rust I don't see any reason I couldn't put another  100,000-200,000 on it.
Sadly due to rust its probably going to get replaced this year...


-Curt
 

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 wrote:  
 
 Yes I do, but look at what I drive:  I am the ultimate
pragmatist/cheapskate.

On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 2:08 PM, Dimitri  wrote:

> What are you waiting for? You are always bringing the Rolls Royces to our
> attention here. I think you really want one!
>
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> > 62 Rolls temptress on BAT.
> >
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Re: [MBZ] What's this car worth?

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I’d say its biggest letdown is the coverlay dash.

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> On May 16, 2018, at 2:48 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
> 
> Kinda doubt it.  No pizzazz.
> 
>> On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 2:26 PM, Dimitri  wrote:
>> Wonder if it breaks the 5K barrier.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> On May 16, 2018, at 2:17 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 2 hrs. left and stuck below $4k.
>>> 
 On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 1:30 PM, Dimitri  wrote:
 I think it’s kinda boring because of the pastel gray and blue interior. My 
 pastel gray 240D not as boring because it has a parchment interior which 
 is a rare and weird color combo. Manny tranny also helps.
 
 Read the comments- many people seem to love the color for some reason. The 
 car is super clean and had a crapload of work done to it by Stu Ritter. I 
 should fetch 7K in my opinion but sadly probably won’t. 
 
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 > Tricky business:  BAT nice pastel gray 280E, super boring but slightly
 > rare.  Some rust yet otherwise clean.  Totally not a collector car --- or
 > is it?
 > 
 > Let's see who can guess the closest.  I predict $4150.
 > 
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Re: [MBZ] Very odd electrical issue in SDL

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Never thought of that

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> Over-voltage protection relay.
> 
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
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[MBZ] Won't leave out of first gear

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

is the beer included?

Might that be a cheap fix?

https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/1998-mercedes-benz/6582743385.html

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Re: [MBZ] the cabin interior headliner has been removed and a dolphin painted in its place

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

hmmm maybe I should go look at it for grins, see what I could do with it

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On 5/16/18 4:24 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

That is not a bad deal especially since it’s a crashbox.  They’re not easy to 
find in this model.

-D



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Might be worth dickering down some for a fun ride

https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/mercedes-benz-convertible/6589847638.html

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Re: [MBZ] the cabin interior headliner has been removed and a dolphin painted in its place

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

It's in the listing.  RTFL

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On May 16, 2018 at 4:42 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  
wrote:


hmmm maybe I should go look at it for grins, see what I could do with it


Don't forget to take a picture of the dolphin.

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Re: [MBZ] 1981 Mercedes 240 D sedan 4speed " RARE " - $3300 (LEXINGTON SC)

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Should a 240 have steelies & matching caps not bundts?

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On May 16, 2018 4:23 PM, "Floyd Thursby via Mercedes" 
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> seems a little sketchy
>
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