Re: [MBZ] Two dead in Tesla crash; 32k gallons of water to extinguish battery fire; nobody driving.

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Dwight Giles via Mercedes  writes:

> Well that is the  politically correct view.lots of evidence of diesel
> vs.gas not to  mention  coal generated electric. . Rant off.

Early diesels ran on coal dust, FWIW.

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] Two dead in Tesla crash; 32k gallons of water to extinguish battery fire; nobody driving.

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I drive a clean diesel - the best of all worlds!

On Wed, Apr 21, 2021 at 10:08 PM Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Well that is the  politically correct view.lots of evidence of diesel
> vs.gas not to  mention  coal generated electric. . Rant off.
>
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
>
> On Wed, Apr 21, 2021, 9:53 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > But, but diesels are bad, very, very bad!
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > > On Apr 21, 2021, at 9:37 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > This would never happen with my OM 617 diesel.
> > >
> > > Dwight Giles Jr.
> > > Wickford RI
> > >
> > >> On Wed, Apr 21, 2021, 9:15 PM OK Don via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> About that Tesla fire:
> > >> "Tesla Fire in Texas Crash Was Not How It Was Reported, Says Fire
> Chief"
> > >>
> > >>
> >
> https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a36189237/tesla-model-s-fire-texas-crash-details-fire-chief/
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>   - A crash
> > >>   <
> > >>
> >
> https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a36175793/tesla-model-s-crash-texas-autopilot/
> > >>>
> > >> and
> > >>   subsequent fire of a Tesla Model S
> > >>    this past weekend
> > quickly
> > >>   caught attention online for its "four-hour" blaze, but that's not
> > >> exactly
> > >>   what happened, the fire chief told *Car and Driver* today.
> > >>   - The initial fireball was contained in a matter of minutes, and it
> > was
> > >>   just tiny flareups that were a longer-lasting problem, chief Palmer
> > Buck
> > >>   explained to the *Houston Chronicle
> > >>   <
> > >>
> >
> https://www.houstonchronicle.com/neighborhood/woodlands/article/Woodlands-fire-chief-says-Tesla-fire-example-of-16113029.php
> > >>>
> > >> *
> > >>   and *C/D.*
> > >>   - Although the chief acknowledges EV fires require different tactics
> > by
> > >>   firefighters, Tesla and government safety data asserts that
> > traditional
> > >>   internal-combustion vehicles experience one fire for every 19
> million
> > >> miles
> > >>   traveled; for Teslas EVs, it's one fire for 205 million miles
> > traveled.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Sun, Apr 18, 2021 at 7:52 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
> > >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> That was my thought too. Play stupid games
> > >>>
> > >>> Allan
> > >>>
> > >>> "M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes"  writes:
> > >>>
> >  Father Charles calls two more home.
> > 
> >  On Sun, Apr 18, 2021 at 7:18 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
> >  mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > 
> > >
> > >
> > >>>
> > >>
> >
> https://www.click2houston.com/news/local/2021/04/18/2-men-dead-after-fiery-tesla-crash-in-spring-officials-say/
> > >
> > > Allan
> > >
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> > >> OK Don
> > >>
> > >> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
> > >> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
> > >>
> > >> “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”
> > >> Wernher
> > >> Von Braun
> > >> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> > >> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
> > >> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] Two dead in Tesla crash; 32k gallons of water to extinguish battery fire; nobody driving.

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Well that is the  politically correct view.lots of evidence of diesel
vs.gas not to  mention  coal generated electric. . Rant off.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Wed, Apr 21, 2021, 9:53 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> But, but diesels are bad, very, very bad!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Apr 21, 2021, at 9:37 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > This would never happen with my OM 617 diesel.
> >
> > Dwight Giles Jr.
> > Wickford RI
> >
> >> On Wed, Apr 21, 2021, 9:15 PM OK Don via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> About that Tesla fire:
> >> "Tesla Fire in Texas Crash Was Not How It Was Reported, Says Fire Chief"
> >>
> >>
> https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a36189237/tesla-model-s-fire-texas-crash-details-fire-chief/
> >>
> >>
> >>   - A crash
> >>   <
> >>
> https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a36175793/tesla-model-s-crash-texas-autopilot/
> >>>
> >> and
> >>   subsequent fire of a Tesla Model S
> >>    this past weekend
> quickly
> >>   caught attention online for its "four-hour" blaze, but that's not
> >> exactly
> >>   what happened, the fire chief told *Car and Driver* today.
> >>   - The initial fireball was contained in a matter of minutes, and it
> was
> >>   just tiny flareups that were a longer-lasting problem, chief Palmer
> Buck
> >>   explained to the *Houston Chronicle
> >>   <
> >>
> https://www.houstonchronicle.com/neighborhood/woodlands/article/Woodlands-fire-chief-says-Tesla-fire-example-of-16113029.php
> >>>
> >> *
> >>   and *C/D.*
> >>   - Although the chief acknowledges EV fires require different tactics
> by
> >>   firefighters, Tesla and government safety data asserts that
> traditional
> >>   internal-combustion vehicles experience one fire for every 19 million
> >> miles
> >>   traveled; for Teslas EVs, it's one fire for 205 million miles
> traveled.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sun, Apr 18, 2021 at 7:52 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> That was my thought too. Play stupid games
> >>>
> >>> Allan
> >>>
> >>> "M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes"  writes:
> >>>
>  Father Charles calls two more home.
> 
>  On Sun, Apr 18, 2021 at 7:18 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
>  mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> >>>
> >>
> https://www.click2houston.com/news/local/2021/04/18/2-men-dead-after-fiery-tesla-crash-in-spring-officials-say/
> >
> > Allan
> >
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> >>
> >> --
> >> OK Don
> >>
> >> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
> >> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
> >>
> >> “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”
> >> Wernher
> >> Von Braun
> >> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> >> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
> >> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] Two dead in Tesla crash; 32k gallons of water to extinguish battery fire; nobody driving.

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

But, but diesels are bad, very, very bad!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 21, 2021, at 9:37 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> This would never happen with my OM 617 diesel.
> 
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
> 
>> On Wed, Apr 21, 2021, 9:15 PM OK Don via Mercedes 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> About that Tesla fire:
>> "Tesla Fire in Texas Crash Was Not How It Was Reported, Says Fire Chief"
>> 
>> https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a36189237/tesla-model-s-fire-texas-crash-details-fire-chief/
>> 
>> 
>>   - A crash
>>   <
>> https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a36175793/tesla-model-s-crash-texas-autopilot/
>>> 
>> and
>>   subsequent fire of a Tesla Model S
>>    this past weekend quickly
>>   caught attention online for its "four-hour" blaze, but that's not
>> exactly
>>   what happened, the fire chief told *Car and Driver* today.
>>   - The initial fireball was contained in a matter of minutes, and it was
>>   just tiny flareups that were a longer-lasting problem, chief Palmer Buck
>>   explained to the *Houston Chronicle
>>   <
>> https://www.houstonchronicle.com/neighborhood/woodlands/article/Woodlands-fire-chief-says-Tesla-fire-example-of-16113029.php
>>> 
>> *
>>   and *C/D.*
>>   - Although the chief acknowledges EV fires require different tactics by
>>   firefighters, Tesla and government safety data asserts that traditional
>>   internal-combustion vehicles experience one fire for every 19 million
>> miles
>>   traveled; for Teslas EVs, it's one fire for 205 million miles traveled.
>> 
>> 
>> On Sun, Apr 18, 2021 at 7:52 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> That was my thought too. Play stupid games
>>> 
>>> Allan
>>> 
>>> "M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes"  writes:
>>> 
 Father Charles calls two more home.
 
 On Sun, Apr 18, 2021 at 7:18 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
> 
> 
>>> 
>> https://www.click2houston.com/news/local/2021/04/18/2-men-dead-after-fiery-tesla-crash-in-spring-officials-say/
> 
> Allan
> 
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>> --
>> OK Don
>> 
>> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
>> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
>> 
>> “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”
>> Wernher
>> Von Braun
>> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
>> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
>> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] Two dead in Tesla crash; 32k gallons of water to extinguish battery fire; nobody driving.

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

This would never happen with my OM 617 diesel.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Wed, Apr 21, 2021, 9:15 PM OK Don via Mercedes 
wrote:

> About that Tesla fire:
> "Tesla Fire in Texas Crash Was Not How It Was Reported, Says Fire Chief"
>
> https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a36189237/tesla-model-s-fire-texas-crash-details-fire-chief/
>
>
>- A crash
><
> https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a36175793/tesla-model-s-crash-texas-autopilot/
> >
> and
>subsequent fire of a Tesla Model S
> this past weekend quickly
>caught attention online for its "four-hour" blaze, but that's not
> exactly
>what happened, the fire chief told *Car and Driver* today.
>- The initial fireball was contained in a matter of minutes, and it was
>just tiny flareups that were a longer-lasting problem, chief Palmer Buck
>explained to the *Houston Chronicle
><
> https://www.houstonchronicle.com/neighborhood/woodlands/article/Woodlands-fire-chief-says-Tesla-fire-example-of-16113029.php
> >
> *
>and *C/D.*
>- Although the chief acknowledges EV fires require different tactics by
>firefighters, Tesla and government safety data asserts that traditional
>internal-combustion vehicles experience one fire for every 19 million
> miles
>traveled; for Teslas EVs, it's one fire for 205 million miles traveled.
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 18, 2021 at 7:52 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > That was my thought too. Play stupid games
> >
> > Allan
> >
> > "M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes"  writes:
> >
> > > Father Charles calls two more home.
> > >
> > > On Sun, Apr 18, 2021 at 7:18 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >>
> > >>
> >
> https://www.click2houston.com/news/local/2021/04/18/2-men-dead-after-fiery-tesla-crash-in-spring-officials-say/
> > >>
> > >> Allan
> > >>
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> OK Don
>
> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
>
> “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”
> Wernher
> Von Braun
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> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
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Re: [MBZ] Two dead in Tesla crash; 32k gallons of water to extinguish battery fire; nobody driving.

[OK Don via Mercedes]

About that Tesla fire:
"Tesla Fire in Texas Crash Was Not How It Was Reported, Says Fire Chief"
https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a36189237/tesla-model-s-fire-texas-crash-details-fire-chief/


   - A crash
   

and
   subsequent fire of a Tesla Model S
    this past weekend quickly
   caught attention online for its "four-hour" blaze, but that's not exactly
   what happened, the fire chief told *Car and Driver* today.
   - The initial fireball was contained in a matter of minutes, and it was
   just tiny flareups that were a longer-lasting problem, chief Palmer Buck
   explained to the *Houston Chronicle
   

*
   and *C/D.*
   - Although the chief acknowledges EV fires require different tactics by
   firefighters, Tesla and government safety data asserts that traditional
   internal-combustion vehicles experience one fire for every 19 million miles
   traveled; for Teslas EVs, it's one fire for 205 million miles traveled.


On Sun, Apr 18, 2021 at 7:52 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> That was my thought too. Play stupid games
>
> Allan
>
> "M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes"  writes:
>
> > Father Charles calls two more home.
> >
> > On Sun, Apr 18, 2021 at 7:18 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> https://www.click2houston.com/news/local/2021/04/18/2-men-dead-after-fiery-tesla-crash-in-spring-officials-say/
> >>
> >> Allan
> >>
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“Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”  Wernher
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Re: [MBZ] More PW funs

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Yeah that’s mostly gone on the 2 E320s. More gone now that I hit them On the 
back with the PW

Interestingly the old TD mats that are at least 25yo I would guess, probably 
not original but aftermarket, are rubber backed and are fine. 

One of the TD rear mats had a gob of what looked like dried chewing gum worked 
into the carpet. I tried some Goo Gone to no effect. The googs suggested WD40 
so I soaked it good with that and after sitting a coupla hours and scraping it 
with a blade for awhile it mostly came out. About the only thing WD40 is good 
for. 

The TD mats look pretty good. 

--FT
Sent from iPhone

> On Apr 21, 2021, at 7:21 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Now if you can just find a way to get rid of the deteriorating black foam on 
> the backs of the OE mats that gets all over the place and makes a huge mess.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Apr 21, 2021, at 7:00 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I pulled the old floor mats out of the 79 300TD that is dissolving here. 
>> They were pretty filthy from sitting for like 10 years in the car. 
>> 
>> I hit them first with the pressure washer to get the surface crap off and 
>> whatever was in the carpet. That actually got them fairly clean but there 
>> were stains and such. I made up a mixture of oxy clean and Dawn dish 
>> detergent In a spray bottle per a recipe I saw in the webbernets for car 
>> carpet cleaner. (Others suggested Dawn and white vinegar in water but I 
>> haven’t tried that yet). Put a lot of that on, scrubbed them and let the 
>> suds sit a little while then rinsed with the PW. They came out surprisingly 
>> clean but need to dry now. 
>> 
>> The gray 99E320 and beige 95E320 mats I cleaned on Sunday with car wash 
>> detergent are dry, I put them back in the cars. They look really good. One 
>> of the gray ones has what looks like a coffee stain sill visible but not 
>> much. Serious improvements. 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT Follow the Science!

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Thanks for that clarification, Curt. For the sake of compliance, let’s leave 
the discussion at that.

-D

> On Apr 21, 2021, at 8:10 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> From the disclaimers page: "PMC is not a publisher and does not publish 
> journal articles itself. Once a journal as a whole has been accepted for 
> inclusion in PMC, NLM does not judge the quality of individual articles and 
> relies on the scientific publishing process to identify and address problems 
> through published comments, corrections, and retractions."
> So they're publishing it but not condoning the data or actually saying its 
> any good. This is not a "study from our government"Its not even a study, its 
> a meta-meta analysis...
> 
> -Curt
> 
>On Wednesday, April 21, 2021, 6:49:08 PM EDT, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:  
> 
>  And finally here is a study from our government, the NIH, which concludes:
> "The existing scientific evidences challenge the safety and efficacy of
> wearing facemask as preventive intervention for COVID-19. The data suggest
> that both medical and non-medical facemasks are ineffective to block
> human-to-human transmission of viral and infectious disease such SARS-CoV-2
> and COVID-19, supporting against the usage of facemasks. Wearing facemasks
> has been demonstrated to have substantial adverse physiological and
> psychological effects. These include hypoxia, hypercapnia, shortness of
> breath, increased acidity and toxicity, activation of fear and stress
> response, rise in stress hormones, immunosuppression, fatigue, headaches,
> decline in cognitive performance, predisposition for viral and infectious
> illnesses, chronic stress, anxiety and depression. Long-term consequences
> of wearing facemask can cause health deterioration, developing and
> progression of chronic diseases and premature death. "
> https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7680614/ Stop kidding yourself
> if you "Follow the Science!!" and still think that wearing a face mask in
> response to this epidemic is a good idea.
> -
> Max
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Re: [MBZ] OT Follow the Science!

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 From the disclaimers page: "PMC is not a publisher and does not publish 
journal articles itself. Once a journal as a whole has been accepted for 
inclusion in PMC, NLM does not judge the quality of individual articles and 
relies on the scientific publishing process to identify and address problems 
through published comments, corrections, and retractions."
So they're publishing it but not condoning the data or actually saying its any 
good. This is not a "study from our government"Its not even a study, its a 
meta-meta analysis...

-Curt

On Wednesday, April 21, 2021, 6:49:08 PM EDT, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
  And finally here is a study from our government, the NIH, which concludes:
"The existing scientific evidences challenge the safety and efficacy of
wearing facemask as preventive intervention for COVID-19. The data suggest
that both medical and non-medical facemasks are ineffective to block
human-to-human transmission of viral and infectious disease such SARS-CoV-2
and COVID-19, supporting against the usage of facemasks. Wearing facemasks
has been demonstrated to have substantial adverse physiological and
psychological effects. These include hypoxia, hypercapnia, shortness of
breath, increased acidity and toxicity, activation of fear and stress
response, rise in stress hormones, immunosuppression, fatigue, headaches,
decline in cognitive performance, predisposition for viral and infectious
illnesses, chronic stress, anxiety and depression. Long-term consequences
of wearing facemask can cause health deterioration, developing and
progression of chronic diseases and premature death. "
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7680614/ Stop kidding yourself
if you "Follow the Science!!" and still think that wearing a face mask in
response to this epidemic is a good idea.
-
Max
Charleston SC
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[MBZ] Amish people...

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Eat at Texas Roadhouse. 

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Re: [MBZ] More PW funs

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Now if you can just find a way to get rid of the deteriorating black foam on 
the backs of the OE mats that gets all over the place and makes a huge mess.

-D

> On Apr 21, 2021, at 7:00 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I pulled the old floor mats out of the 79 300TD that is dissolving here. They 
> were pretty filthy from sitting for like 10 years in the car. 
> 
> I hit them first with the pressure washer to get the surface crap off and 
> whatever was in the carpet. That actually got them fairly clean but there 
> were stains and such. I made up a mixture of oxy clean and Dawn dish 
> detergent In a spray bottle per a recipe I saw in the webbernets for car 
> carpet cleaner. (Others suggested Dawn and white vinegar in water but I 
> haven’t tried that yet). Put a lot of that on, scrubbed them and let the suds 
> sit a little while then rinsed with the PW. They came out surprisingly clean 
> but need to dry now. 
> 
> The gray 99E320 and beige 95E320 mats I cleaned on Sunday with car wash 
> detergent are dry, I put them back in the cars. They look really good. One of 
> the gray ones has what looks like a coffee stain sill visible but not much. 
> Serious improvements. 
> 
> --FT
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[MBZ] More PW funs

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

I pulled the old floor mats out of the 79 300TD that is dissolving here. They 
were pretty filthy from sitting for like 10 years in the car. 

I hit them first with the pressure washer to get the surface crap off and 
whatever was in the carpet. That actually got them fairly clean but there were 
stains and such. I made up a mixture of oxy clean and Dawn dish detergent In a 
spray bottle per a recipe I saw in the webbernets for car carpet cleaner. 
(Others suggested Dawn and white vinegar in water but I haven’t tried that 
yet). Put a lot of that on, scrubbed them and let the suds sit a little while 
then rinsed with the PW. They came out surprisingly clean but need to dry now. 

The gray 99E320 and beige 95E320 mats I cleaned on Sunday with car wash 
detergent are dry, I put them back in the cars. They look really good. One of 
the gray ones has what looks like a coffee stain sill visible but not much. 
Serious improvements. 

--FT
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Re: [MBZ] OT Follow the Science!

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

This is not appropriate for the list. Take it to Okietalk. There will be no 
further warnings.

-D/ListMom

> On Apr 21, 2021, at 6:48 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> And finally here is a study from our government, the NIH, which concludes:
> "The existing scientific evidences challenge the safety and efficacy of
> wearing facemask as preventive intervention for COVID-19. The data suggest
> that both medical and non-medical facemasks are ineffective to block
> human-to-human transmission of viral and infectious disease such SARS-CoV-2
> and COVID-19, supporting against the usage of facemasks. Wearing facemasks
> has been demonstrated to have substantial adverse physiological and
> psychological effects. These include hypoxia, hypercapnia, shortness of
> breath, increased acidity and toxicity, activation of fear and stress
> response, rise in stress hormones, immunosuppression, fatigue, headaches,
> decline in cognitive performance, predisposition for viral and infectious
> illnesses, chronic stress, anxiety and depression. Long-term consequences
> of wearing facemask can cause health deterioration, developing and
> progression of chronic diseases and premature death. "
> https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7680614/ Stop kidding yourself
> if you "Follow the Science!!" and still think that wearing a face mask in
> response to this epidemic is a good idea.
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
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[MBZ] OT Follow the Science!

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

 And finally here is a study from our government, the NIH, which concludes:
"The existing scientific evidences challenge the safety and efficacy of
wearing facemask as preventive intervention for COVID-19. The data suggest
that both medical and non-medical facemasks are ineffective to block
human-to-human transmission of viral and infectious disease such SARS-CoV-2
and COVID-19, supporting against the usage of facemasks. Wearing facemasks
has been demonstrated to have substantial adverse physiological and
psychological effects. These include hypoxia, hypercapnia, shortness of
breath, increased acidity and toxicity, activation of fear and stress
response, rise in stress hormones, immunosuppression, fatigue, headaches,
decline in cognitive performance, predisposition for viral and infectious
illnesses, chronic stress, anxiety and depression. Long-term consequences
of wearing facemask can cause health deterioration, developing and
progression of chronic diseases and premature death. "
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7680614/ Stop kidding yourself
if you "Follow the Science!!" and still think that wearing a face mask in
response to this epidemic is a good idea.
-
Max
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] suddenly the engine locked at idle without any noises 1990 Mercedes 300D Turbodiesel - $1, 200 (Salisbury NC)

[G Mann via Mercedes]

I had a Ford 7.3 Diesel hydrolock at idle.. Sudden stop.. It had a head
gasket leak and had been setting for some time. I got it started to "check
what was wrong with it" [looking for frothing in the upper radiator tank]
it ran for about 15 minutes, then started running rough.. then sudden
stop... really sudden stop from about 800 RPM..

Tear down found water in cylinders 3&5 [pulled heads first] ... full tear
down found #3&5 rods bent. Pre teardown, I pulled the glow plugs [all of
them] and cranked the engine while watching for coolant out of the glow
plug holes... #3&5 squirted coolant, so at that point, A tear down was
going to happen.

The buy price went down a lot when I pulled the glow plugs and squirted
water... I bought it. then spent another $4,000 on parts and machine shop
to build the engine. 4 years and 200,000 miles later, it is still going
strong, after everything was made right.

This car suggests to me, it may have done the same thing.

On Wed, Apr 21, 2021 at 2:24 PM Frederick Moir via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Head Gasket? Hydro-lock?
> Fred
>
> On Wed, Apr 21, 2021 at 3:11 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Doesn't "engine locked at idle without any noises" sound like it might
> > be repairable?
> >
> > Randy
> >
> >
> >
> > On 21/04/2021 8:56 AM, Robert Massmann via Mercedes wrote:
> > > I have a 87 190D with a 2.5 L turbo in it. I wonder if that would swap
> > > into it. The 190 has been sitting a long time and had been totaled,
> > > when it had gotten rear ended. Not quite sure why I still have it or
> > > kept it in the first place.
> > >
> > > Bob Massmann
> > > Oregonia, Ohio
> > >
> > > -Original Message- From: Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
> > > Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2021 11:52 AM
> > > To: Mercedes Discussion List
> > > Cc: Floyd Thursby
> > > Subject: [MBZ] suddenly the engine locked at idle without any noises
> > > 1990 Mercedes 300D Turbodiesel - $1, 200 (Salisbury NC)
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://charlotte.craigslist.org/cto/d/salisbury-1990-mercedes-300d-turbodiesel/7308260925.html
> > >
> > >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] suddenly the engine locked at idle without any noises 1990 Mercedes 300D Turbodiesel - $1, 200 (Salisbury NC)

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Piston, meet Valve.
Valve, meet Piston.
Camshaft divorces Camshaft.

On 2021-04-21 16:24, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

Sounds like a busted timing chain to me...
Curt


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Re: [MBZ] suddenly the engine locked at idle without any noises 1990 Mercedes 300D Turbodiesel - $1, 200 (Salisbury NC)

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Sounds like a busted timing chain to me...
Curt

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Wed, Apr 21, 2021 at 3:11 PM, Randy Bennell via 
Mercedes wrote:   Doesn't "engine locked at idle without 
any noises" sound like it might 
be repairable?

Randy



On 21/04/2021 8:56 AM, Robert Massmann via Mercedes wrote:
> I have a 87 190D with a 2.5 L turbo in it. I wonder if that would swap 
> into it. The 190 has been sitting a long time and had been totaled, 
> when it had gotten rear ended. Not quite sure why I still have it or 
> kept it in the first place.
>
> Bob Massmann
> Oregonia, Ohio
>
> -Original Message- From: Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
> Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2021 11:52 AM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Cc: Floyd Thursby
> Subject: [MBZ] suddenly the engine locked at idle without any noises 
> 1990 Mercedes 300D Turbodiesel - $1, 200 (Salisbury NC)
>
> https://charlotte.craigslist.org/cto/d/salisbury-1990-mercedes-300d-turbodiesel/7308260925.html
>  
>
>


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Re: [MBZ] suddenly the engine locked at idle without any noises 1990 Mercedes 300D Turbodiesel - $1, 200 (Salisbury NC)

[Frederick Moir via Mercedes]

Head Gasket? Hydro-lock?
Fred

On Wed, Apr 21, 2021 at 3:11 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Doesn't "engine locked at idle without any noises" sound like it might
> be repairable?
>
> Randy
>
>
>
> On 21/04/2021 8:56 AM, Robert Massmann via Mercedes wrote:
> > I have a 87 190D with a 2.5 L turbo in it. I wonder if that would swap
> > into it. The 190 has been sitting a long time and had been totaled,
> > when it had gotten rear ended. Not quite sure why I still have it or
> > kept it in the first place.
> >
> > Bob Massmann
> > Oregonia, Ohio
> >
> > -Original Message- From: Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
> > Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2021 11:52 AM
> > To: Mercedes Discussion List
> > Cc: Floyd Thursby
> > Subject: [MBZ] suddenly the engine locked at idle without any noises
> > 1990 Mercedes 300D Turbodiesel - $1, 200 (Salisbury NC)
> >
> >
> https://charlotte.craigslist.org/cto/d/salisbury-1990-mercedes-300d-turbodiesel/7308260925.html
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Sales Executive of the Month -- Excellent Buy - $7, 900 (Salisbury)

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Well he's got to be good to get that price with that advert!  No one else is up 
to the task...

Max Dillon
Charleston SC


Apr 21, 2021 10:23:16 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes :

> https://charlotte.craigslist.org/cto/d/salisbury-excellent-buy/7309789368.html
> 
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> 
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Re: [MBZ] Sales Executive of the Month -- Excellent Buy - $7, 900 (Salisbury)

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Shows that it’s a daily driver

--FT
Sent from iPhone

> On Apr 21, 2021, at 11:06 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Love the back seat view with the garbage on the floor.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Apr 21, 2021, at 10:22 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> https://charlotte.craigslist.org/cto/d/salisbury-excellent-buy/7309789368.html
>> 
>> -- 
>> --FT
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[MBZ] it's deleted and has turboback exhaust - 2008 ML320 CDI - 182k miles - $8, 500

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

It's green

https://chicago.craigslist.org/nwi/cto/d/chesterton-mercedes-ml-diesel/7310296257.html

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] OT: X-15 Engineering

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Somewhere near the middle of his soliloquy, Mike talks about having to
upgrade his computer to run the fluid flow simulations for many different
wings.
I still have the bamboo K 12"er that my Mom gave me, that she used in
college.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZ9mg9g0D7c=1050s

On Wed, Apr 21, 2021 at 12:51 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>  I got yelled at a
> few times by the computer center guys for running aerodynamic
> simulations that hogged a lot of resources and took several minutes to
> run, it really pissed them off.  So after that I made them more refined
> to hog even more resources, it got to where they would only run them
> overnight and left nasty notes on my printouts.
>
> --FT
>

--
OK Don

"Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
pause and reflect." Mark Twain

“Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”  Wernher
Von Braun
2013 F150, 18 mpg
2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] suddenly the engine locked at idle without any noises 1990 Mercedes 300D Turbodiesel - $1, 200 (Salisbury NC)

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Doesn't "engine locked at idle without any noises" sound like it might 
be repairable?


Randy



On 21/04/2021 8:56 AM, Robert Massmann via Mercedes wrote:
I have a 87 190D with a 2.5 L turbo in it. I wonder if that would swap 
into it. The 190 has been sitting a long time and had been totaled, 
when it had gotten rear ended. Not quite sure why I still have it or 
kept it in the first place.


Bob Massmann
Oregonia, Ohio

-Original Message- From: Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2021 11:52 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Floyd Thursby
Subject: [MBZ] suddenly the engine locked at idle without any noises 
1990 Mercedes 300D Turbodiesel - $1, 200 (Salisbury NC)


https://charlotte.craigslist.org/cto/d/salisbury-1990-mercedes-300d-turbodiesel/7308260925.html 






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Re: [MBZ] This could be a good deal for a minimal project -- 1991 Mercedes SL500 Roadster - $1, 900 (Gaffney)

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

My hugest regret is turning down a 1948 Cadillac convertible b/c I couldn't
afford the $400 asking price.

On Wed, Apr 21, 2021 at 3:07 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Is there anyone on this list young enough to still be working and not
> retired in 20 years (exccept maybe Curt)? If so, you are likely correct
> that it will fund their retirement because they won't likely make it
> more than another year or two after that.
>
> Randy
>
> On 21/04/2021 12:08 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> > That is an absolute steal.  Lock it in the barn for another 20 years and
> > voila - your retirement is fully funded.
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] This could be a good deal for a minimal project -- 1991 Mercedes SL500 Roadster - $1, 900 (Gaffney)

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Is there anyone on this list young enough to still be working and not 
retired in 20 years (exccept maybe Curt)? If so, you are likely correct 
that it will fund their retirement because they won't likely make it 
more than another year or two after that.


Randy

On 21/04/2021 12:08 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

That is an absolute steal.  Lock it in the barn for another 20 years and
voila - your retirement is fully funded.





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Re: [MBZ] OT: X-15 Engineering

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I had a 12" K aluminum in college, leather belt case, still have it.  
My dad gave me his old 6" (K maybe, I forget, will have to go look at 
it) bamboo slip stick, which I really liked as it would fit in a shirt 
pocket, and had the pocket clip.  That was some livin!  I always liked 
using them, could bang out some quick calcs in no time.


When I did my summer internships at NASA Langley 74 75 76 second summer 
I worked in the Real-time Simulation group, we had a whole room full of 
CDC computers down the hall, 6600s, 7600s, STARs.  I would wander in 
there and just kinda walk around a look at them.  My phone these days 
will probably do more than that whole room would do, but still it was 
way cool.  We did not have any terminals to do much, I think some of our 
programmer types had them to tweak the simulations while we were running 
the simulator.  Even at school I think my last year, grad school 77, we 
got a coupla terminals to submit and run FORTRAN jobs but they were 
kinda clunky though easier than dealing with punch cards.  I think we 
still had to walk over to the computing center to get the printouts, we 
might have had a printer in my building, I forget.  I got yelled at a 
few times by the computer center guys for running aerodynamic 
simulations that hogged a lot of resources and took several minutes to 
run, it really pissed them off.  So after that I made them more refined 
to hog even more resources, it got to where they would only run them 
overnight and left nasty notes on my printouts.


--FT

On 4/21/21 12:59 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote:

We called the black thick-rim spectacle frames "BCDs" (birth control
devices).
If you were there you'd understand this:  K bamboo snobs really dissed
those with Picket plastics.
When I started at NASA MSC, the most powerful computing device in the office
was a Frieden calculator which could also multiply and divide.
The (only) big computer in another building only used stacks of IBM
(Hollerith) punch cards.
But there were awesome analog systems.

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2021 9:15 AM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Cc: Floyd Thursby 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: X-15 Engineering

That's because you can't buy white polyester short sleeved shirts, skinny
black ties, can't smoke Luckies while working, and black thick-rim spectacle
frames are no longer available. Impossible to accomplish any real
engineering what with all these damn computers.

--FT

On 4/20/21 3:55 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:

I've heard it said that we would not be able to recreate a Saturn-V
rocket engine today. Not because we don't have the plans, but because
we no longer have the skilled people who know how to make the parts
and fit them all together.

Allan

G Mann via Mercedes  writes:


Without these dedicated men, both engineers and pilots, and skilled
machinists capable of actually building anything thrown at them, we
would not have the high level of tech we have today.

The "current crop of geniuses" don't have that seed of "right stuff"
to "Get'ter Done" .

On Tue, Apr 20, 2021 at 12:03 AM Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Back from when guys with slide rules and pocket protectors did the
thinking.

https://youtu.be/7zR26e504uI


Rick

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Re: [MBZ] This could be a good deal for a minimal project -- 1991 Mercedes SL500 Roadster - $1, 900 (Gaffney)

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

After you deduct the $5k it costs to locate a competent mechanic that can sort 
out the fuel system. Pre-facelift R129s are nightmarish in this regard, not to 
mention some of the other issues they had.

-D

> On Apr 21, 2021, at 1:08 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> That is an absolute steal.  Lock it in the barn for another 20 years and
> voila - your retirement is fully funded.
> 
> On Wed, Apr 21, 2021 at 10:22 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Doesn't look half bad, probably nothing too serious to deal with, get it
>> running and flip it
>> 
>> 
>> https://greenville.craigslist.org/cto/d/gaffney-1991-mercedes-sl500-roadster/7309910646.html
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Re: [MBZ] This could be a good deal for a minimal project -- 1991 Mercedes SL500 Roadster - $1, 900 (Gaffney)

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

That is an absolute steal.  Lock it in the barn for another 20 years and
voila - your retirement is fully funded.

On Wed, Apr 21, 2021 at 10:22 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Doesn't look half bad, probably nothing too serious to deal with, get it
> running and flip it
>
>
> https://greenville.craigslist.org/cto/d/gaffney-1991-mercedes-sl500-roadster/7309910646.html
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Re: [MBZ] OT: X-15 Engineering

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

The 200th flight was cancelled for snow.

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2021 7:13 AM
To: Okie Benz 
Cc: Dan Penoff 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: X-15 Engineering

That was an interesting watch. I was into the X-15 stuff when I was a kid,
but had no idea there were so many flights. I liked the parts about the
ablative coatings they were using on it, and how they designed the turbines
in the engines to run on the fuel and use it to keep the engine nozzles
cool. That was pretty neat.

-D

> On Apr 20, 2021, at 3:55 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes
 wrote:
> 
> I've heard it said that we would not be able to recreate a Saturn-V 
> rocket engine today. Not because we don't have the plans, but because 
> we no longer have the skilled people who know how to make the parts 
> and fit them all together.
> 
> Allan
> 
> G Mann via Mercedes  writes:
> 
>> Without these dedicated men, both engineers and pilots, and skilled 
>> machinists capable of actually building anything thrown at them, we 
>> would not have the high level of tech we have today.
>> 
>> The "current crop of geniuses" don't have that seed of "right stuff" 
>> to "Get'ter Done" .
>> 
>> On Tue, Apr 20, 2021 at 12:03 AM Rick Knoble via Mercedes < 
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Back from when guys with slide rules and pocket protectors did the 
>>> thinking.
>>> 
>>> https://youtu.be/7zR26e504uI
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Currently not running had several electrical parts replaced Mercedes Benz 400SEL - $7, 000

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Wasn't the MSRP around $70K?

On Wed, Apr 21, 2021 at 9:55 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Extra 0 in the price if it is a dead hulk, but it looks pretty nice
>
>
> https://columbia.craigslist.org/cto/d/hartsville-mercedes-benz-400sel/7310267088.html
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Re: [MBZ] OT: X-15 Engineering

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

We called the black thick-rim spectacle frames "BCDs" (birth control
devices).  
If you were there you'd understand this:  K bamboo snobs really dissed
those with Picket plastics.  
When I started at NASA MSC, the most powerful computing device in the office
was a Frieden calculator which could also multiply and divide.  
The (only) big computer in another building only used stacks of IBM
(Hollerith) punch cards.  
But there were awesome analog systems.

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2021 9:15 AM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Cc: Floyd Thursby 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: X-15 Engineering

That's because you can't buy white polyester short sleeved shirts, skinny
black ties, can't smoke Luckies while working, and black thick-rim spectacle
frames are no longer available. Impossible to accomplish any real
engineering what with all these damn computers.

--FT

On 4/20/21 3:55 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
> I've heard it said that we would not be able to recreate a Saturn-V 
> rocket engine today. Not because we don't have the plans, but because 
> we no longer have the skilled people who know how to make the parts 
> and fit them all together.
>
> Allan
>
> G Mann via Mercedes  writes:
>
>> Without these dedicated men, both engineers and pilots, and skilled 
>> machinists capable of actually building anything thrown at them, we 
>> would not have the high level of tech we have today.
>>
>> The "current crop of geniuses" don't have that seed of "right stuff" 
>> to "Get'ter Done" .
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 20, 2021 at 12:03 AM Rick Knoble via Mercedes < 
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Back from when guys with slide rules and pocket protectors did the 
>>> thinking.
>>>
>>> https://youtu.be/7zR26e504uI
>>>
>>>
>>> Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Sales Executive of the Month -- Excellent Buy - $7, 900 (Salisbury)

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Love the back seat view with the garbage on the floor.

-D

> On Apr 21, 2021, at 10:22 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> https://charlotte.craigslist.org/cto/d/salisbury-excellent-buy/7309789368.html
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[MBZ] Sales Executive of the Month -- Excellent Buy - $7, 900 (Salisbury)

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

https://charlotte.craigslist.org/cto/d/salisbury-excellent-buy/7309789368.html

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[MBZ] This could be a good deal for a minimal project -- 1991 Mercedes SL500 Roadster - $1, 900 (Gaffney)

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Doesn't look half bad, probably nothing too serious to deal with, get it 
running and flip it


https://greenville.craigslist.org/cto/d/gaffney-1991-mercedes-sl500-roadster/7309910646.html

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Re: [MBZ] suddenly the engine locked at idle without any noises 1990 Mercedes 300D Turbodiesel - $1, 200 (Salisbury NC)

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

> I have a 87 190D with a 2.5 L turbo in it. I wonder if that would swap into 
> it.

I bet it would.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] suddenly the engine locked at idle without any noises 1990 Mercedes 300D Turbodiesel - $1, 200 (Salisbury NC)

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

I have a 87 190D with a 2.5 L turbo in it. I wonder if that would swap into 
it. The 190 has been sitting a long time and had been totaled, when it had 
gotten rear ended. Not quite sure why I still have it or kept it in the 
first place.


Bob Massmann
Oregonia, Ohio

-Original Message- 
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Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2021 11:52 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Floyd Thursby
Subject: [MBZ] suddenly the engine locked at idle without any noises 1990 
Mercedes 300D Turbodiesel - $1, 200 (Salisbury NC)


https://charlotte.craigslist.org/cto/d/salisbury-1990-mercedes-300d-turbodiesel/7308260925.html

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[MBZ] Currently not running had several electrical parts replaced Mercedes Benz 400SEL - $7, 000

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Extra 0 in the price if it is a dead hulk, but it looks pretty nice

https://columbia.craigslist.org/cto/d/hartsville-mercedes-benz-400sel/7310267088.html

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Re: [MBZ] OT: X-15 Engineering

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

That's because you can't buy white polyester short sleeved shirts, 
skinny black ties, can't smoke Luckies while working, and black 
thick-rim spectacle frames are no longer available. Impossible to 
accomplish any real engineering what with all these damn computers.


--FT

On 4/20/21 3:55 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:

I've heard it said that we would not be able to recreate a Saturn-V
rocket engine today. Not because we don't have the plans, but because we
no longer have the skilled people who know how to make the parts and fit
them all together.

Allan

G Mann via Mercedes  writes:


Without these dedicated men, both engineers and pilots, and skilled
machinists capable of actually building anything thrown at them, we would
not have the high level of tech we have today.

The "current crop of geniuses" don't have that seed of "right stuff" to
"Get'ter Done" .

On Tue, Apr 20, 2021 at 12:03 AM Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Back from when guys with slide rules and pocket protectors did the
thinking.

https://youtu.be/7zR26e504uI


Rick

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Re: [MBZ] OT: X-15 Engineering

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

That was an interesting watch. I was into the X-15 stuff when I was a kid, but 
had no idea there were so many flights. I liked the parts about the ablative 
coatings they were using on it, and how they designed the turbines in the 
engines to run on the fuel and use it to keep the engine nozzles cool. That was 
pretty neat.

-D

> On Apr 20, 2021, at 3:55 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I've heard it said that we would not be able to recreate a Saturn-V
> rocket engine today. Not because we don't have the plans, but because we
> no longer have the skilled people who know how to make the parts and fit
> them all together.
> 
> Allan
> 
> G Mann via Mercedes  writes:
> 
>> Without these dedicated men, both engineers and pilots, and skilled
>> machinists capable of actually building anything thrown at them, we would
>> not have the high level of tech we have today.
>> 
>> The "current crop of geniuses" don't have that seed of "right stuff" to
>> "Get'ter Done" .
>> 
>> On Tue, Apr 20, 2021 at 12:03 AM Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Back from when guys with slide rules and pocket protectors did the
>>> thinking.
>>> 
>>> https://youtu.be/7zR26e504uI
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Rick
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