Re: [MBZ] Back on the 'net

2005-08-15 Thread Steve MacSween
someone claiming to be [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I would like to see us put more emphasis on downtown living. There are many
 countries around the world built with much living space above retail. Why
 couldn't we have a street level mall with office space on the second floor and
 living space on the 3rd thru 6th floors? When the space is available then the
 prices will come down.

I don't know about the U.S., but in Canada this has been done for some time
in Montreal, and Toronto got onto the bandwagon a decade or so ago with
'mixed' condo/retail developments.

However, two issues restrict this. First, it's largely seen as an option for
childless 'urban' couples or singles. Second, even when built up 20 storeys,
developers want the downtown land to pay -- to what gets built is
overwhelmingly 'luxury' accommodations.

If we want inner city living to be a viable option for families, someone is
going to have to come up with clever ways for children to be children
without being 'out on the street', for obvious reasons, and make it as free
as playing in a city park, for financial reasons.

Mac 



Re: [MBZ] AC Dead

2005-08-15 Thread David Johnson
Peter,
Where's the separate circuit?
I only knew about fuse #8.
David

--- Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Replace the blower fuse -- it's a separate circuit.
 
 Peter





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[MBZ] OK, now you can go muddin'

2005-08-15 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Chevrolet-Blazer-Mercedes-Custom-Mercedes-Chevy-Blazer-4-wheel-drive-vehicle_W0QQitemZ4567364925QQcategoryZ6154QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
--
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 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE,
 85 300D,  83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts



Re: [MBZ] OK, now you can go muddin'

2005-08-15 Thread David Brodbeck
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Chevrolet-Blazer-Mercedes-Custom-Mercedes-Chevy-Blazer-4-wheel-drive-vehicle_W0QQitemZ4567364925QQcategoryZ6154QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

I think that one's been listed before.  Wonder what happened?



Re: [MBZ] 72 250 stalls at drive

2005-08-15 Thread 72benz250
Thanks Peter,

switched them over and set the timing to 4 atdc and put it in reverse and it 
did not die. Woohoo!

Now I need to check if the advance still works.

Thanks for your help.

George

-- Original message -- 

 George: 
 
 You have the lines hooked up backwards! 
 
 Manifold vac on the retard diaphram all the time, ported (variable, 
 that is) vac on the advance. What you currently have will start out 
 with retarded timing and go later as the engine speeds up and the 
 advance switchover valve cuts in! You are in fact something like 12 
 degrees later than it should be. 
 
 Try 7 BTDC with no vac applied and see how it runs. 
 
 Peter 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 3, Issue 99

2005-08-15 Thread 72benz250
Manifold heat control valves?

How do I free them up? I'm guessing they open when it gets wamr enough?

Thx

-- Original message -- 

 George, 
 I agree with both Mitch and Peter. Swap the vac lines at the distributor, 
 reset 
 timing at idle to 4 degrees ATDC, then check the timing at the high speed 
 spec 
 (4000rpm?) to ensure that retard, advance, and mechanical components of 
 ignition 
 timing are in spec. If the engine stills lags a bit on acceleration, or you 
 want better mileage, you might disconnect  plug the retard line at the 
 distributor. Next step, free up the manifold heat control valves under the 
 carbs. Between the dwell measurement confusion related to the transistorized 
 switch unit, constantly clogging idle jets, sticking manifold heat control 
 valves, ignition timing complexity, and dash removal to replace broken 
 control 
 levers and expansion valve, I doubt I'll ever be tempted to own another 
 vergasser. Wife, however, swears by her15 mpg 320ML, whle I've sworn at it 
 the 
 three times it had to be towed in, for broken, but operationally critical, 
 plastic parts and clamps. 
 Regards, 
 Mike Boerner 
 sdl, 300d, both 87s 
 
 
 If the advance was on full when you set the timing, it's probably doing 
 exactly 
 what I had assumed it was doing. From what Mike said, (and from the chart in 
 the 
 .pdf) it sounds like you did it right (if the car were working properly). 
 The car is over 30 years old and likely gone through a few sets of vac hoses. 
 Somebody may have misrouted hoses or replaced a fitting that was meant to 
 include 
 a delay valve, restrictor, etc (or such a fitting might be original but not 
 functioning as it did when new). 
 
 Do you have vacuum diagrams for it? 
 It might be as simple as switching the advance and retard hoses on the 
 distributor 
 and resetting the timing. 
 
 Mitch. 
 
 --- 
  Message: 11 
  Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 11:33:01 -0500 
  From: Peter Frederick 
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] 72 250 stalls at drive 
  To: Mercedes mailing list 
  Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed 
  
  George: 
  
  You have the lines hooked up backwards! 
  
  Manifold vac on the retard diaphram all the time, ported (variable, 
  that is) vac on the advance. What you currently have will start out 
  with retarded timing and go later as the engine speeds up and the 
  advance switchover valve cuts in! You are in fact something like 12 
  degrees later than it should be. 
  
  Try 7 BTDC with no vac applied and see how it runs. 
  
  Peter 
 
 
 
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[MBZ] 124 euro manny diesel

2005-08-15 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-Collectors-Opportunity_W0QQitemZ4566955422QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE,
 85 300D,  83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
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[MBZ] well, ok

2005-08-15 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-400-Series-450-sel-6-9-450-SEL-6-9-MERCEDES-BENZ-NEAR-MINT-RARE-LOW-MILES_W0QQitemZ4567960745QQcategoryZ6331QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
--
Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE,
 85 300D,  83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts



[MBZ] manny 116

2005-08-15 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-200-Series-280S-1977-Mercedes-Benz-280S-Manual-4-Spd_W0QQitemZ4567976957QQcategoryZ6329QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
--
Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE,
 85 300D,  83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts



[MBZ] way too much for this car

2005-08-15 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-190-Series-2-2-diesel-1985-Mercedes-Benz-diesel-2-2-4-door-does-not-run_W0QQitemZ4567504481QQcategoryZ6328QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
--
Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE,
 85 300D,  83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts



Re: [MBZ] 124 euro manny diesel

2005-08-15 Thread Joe Knight
http://cgi.ebay.de/W124-el-Heckrollo-KOMPLETT-Mercedes-Benz_W0QQitemZ4567977616QQcategoryZ61509QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Might be a nice complement to that ride.  Electric shade for the rear window.

joe

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 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-Collectors-Opportunity_W0QQitemZ4566955422QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem



[MBZ] Front plate

2005-08-15 Thread David Brodbeck
Washington requires front plates.  Michigan does not, so I don't have
the necessary hardware to mount one.  I see the holes in the front
bumper, but looking into them, it's not clear to me what size hardware
is supposed to go in there.  My Honda had tapped and threaded holes,
this doesn't appear to.  Is there something I'm missing, or should I
just drill and use sheet metal screws?  Right now I have the plate
zip-tied to the grille, but I don't like that because it blocks about a
quarter of the air intake area.



Re: [MBZ] Front plate

2005-08-15 Thread LT Don
What model?  On my 240D I just use screws  nuts to hold the front plate on. 

On 8/14/05, David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Washington requires front plates.  Michigan does not, so I don't have
 the necessary hardware to mount one.  I see the holes in the front
 bumper, but looking into them, it's not clear to me what size hardware
 is supposed to go in there.  My Honda had tapped and threaded holes,
 this doesn't appear to.  Is there something I'm missing, or should I
 just drill and use sheet metal screws?  Right now I have the plate
 zip-tied to the grille, but I don't like that because it blocks about a
 quarter of the air intake area.
 
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Re: [MBZ] Front plate

2005-08-15 Thread David Brodbeck
LT Don wrote:
 What model?  On my 240D I just use screws  nuts to hold the front plate on. 

Oops, sorry.  It's a 300D.



Re: [MBZ] Front plate

2005-08-15 Thread David Brodbeck
LT Don wrote:
 W123?  Probably the same thing then. 

Yeah, W123.  I'll take another look, but the holes appeared to be
blind.  Maybe they aren't supposed to be, though.  My car was put
headfirst in a ditch, at some point, and the air dam/valence area under
the bumper was pushed upwards in places.



Re: [MBZ] Front plate

2005-08-15 Thread LT Don
You DO have to reach up blind at the back of the bumper with the
nuts. I used a pair of curved hemostats to hold the nut while I pushed
the bolt through from the front.



Re: [MBZ] Front plate

2005-08-15 Thread Gerald R. Flintrop
David,

When I had that pblm (with a 280 SLC), I went to the (St)ealership, and
bought the requisite bracket (it wasn't cheap, IIRC). That is what is
attached to the holes on the car. The license plate then screws into that
bracket.

Jerry   Ö¿Ö
    ~


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of David Brodbeck
Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2005 6:56 PM
To: Mercedes mailing list
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Front plate

LT Don wrote:
 What model?  On my 240D I just use screws  nuts to hold the front plate
on. 

Oops, sorry.  It's a 300D.

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Re: [MBZ] Front plate

2005-08-15 Thread Sunil Hari
don, why do you have hemostats???

On 8/14/05, Gerald R. Flintrop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 David,
 
 When I had that pblm (with a 280 SLC), I went to the (St)ealership, and
 bought the requisite bracket (it wasn't cheap, IIRC). That is what is
 attached to the holes on the car. The license plate then screws into that
 bracket.
 
 Jerry Ö¿Ö
  ~
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of David Brodbeck
 Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2005 6:56 PM
 To: Mercedes mailing list
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Front plate
 
 LT Don wrote:
  What model?  On my 240D I just use screws  nuts to hold the front plate
 on.
 
 Oops, sorry.  It's a 300D.
 
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Re: [MBZ] Front plate

2005-08-15 Thread LT Don
My way is a LOT cheaper, though, and does the job. 

On 8/14/05, Gerald R. Flintrop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 David,
 
 When I had that pblm (with a 280 SLC), I went to the (St)ealership, and
 bought the requisite bracket (it wasn't cheap, IIRC). That is what is
 attached to the holes on the car. The license plate then screws into that
 bracket.
 
 Jerry Ö¿Ö
  ~
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of David Brodbeck
 Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2005 6:56 PM
 To: Mercedes mailing list
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Front plate
 
 LT Don wrote:
  What model?  On my 240D I just use screws  nuts to hold the front plate
 on.
 
 Oops, sorry.  It's a 300D.
 
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Re: [MBZ] way too much for this car

2005-08-15 Thread LT Don
This has one of the best Freudian slip typos I've ever seen:

this car does not run (ceased engine) and will probably never run again

I guess if the engine has seized then it indeed has ceased. 

Don

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 --
 Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
   89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE,
   85 300D,  83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
   76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] way too much for this car

2005-08-15 Thread LT Don
Emailed the seller about the wrong choice of words and had this
interesting thing come up on the Ask A Question form:

The user you are contacting is registered on another eBay site and
may speak a different language. Your message will be sent exactly as
typed below.

Does that raise a red flag for anyone else besides me? 

On 8/14/05, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 This has one of the best Freudian slip typos I've ever seen:
 
 this car does not run (ceased engine) and will probably never run again
 
 I guess if the engine has seized then it indeed has ceased.
 
 Don
 
 On 8/14/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-190-Series-2-2-diesel-1985-Mercedes-Benz-diesel-2-2-4-door-does-not-run_W0QQitemZ4567504481QQcategoryZ6328QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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  Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE,
85 300D,  83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
  Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
 
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Re: [MBZ] Front plate

2005-08-15 Thread OK Don
That's his story, and he's sticking to it!

On 8/14/05, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 No, I'm not a doctor. I was an aviation electronics technician the
 first six years of my Coast Guard career, and several pairs of
 hemostats were mandatory equipment in every tech's toolbox. Great
 for holding small parts during reassembly or for picking out a
 micro-sized dropped screw that gets wedged in between components.
 
 On 8/14/05, Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  don, why do you have hemostats???

-- 
OK Don, KD5NRO
Norman, OK 
'87 300SDL
'81 240D
'78 450SLC



Re: [MBZ] Is this for real?

2005-08-15 Thread Loren Faeth

It has the no Grief heater controls too.  No gee whiz junk to break.

At 05:36 PM 8/12/2005, you wrote:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-300D-Manual-1984-MERCEDES-300D-RARE-AND-DESIRABLE-NO-RESERVE_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6330QQitemZ4568256207QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

ebay item 4568256207, owner says it's a gray market 84 300D turbo,
manual tranny, manual everything, cloth interior, 148Kmi.  Did any
123s exist in this form, Euro or otherwise?

Right now, it's at $820 with 3 days left.


--
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1984 MB 300D Turbo
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
513-205-7474

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Re: [MBZ] self curing head on my SDL

2005-08-15 Thread Loren Faeth

Give ya $50, delivered!

At 03:24 PM 8/13/2005, you wrote:

Now would be a good time to sell.

OK Don wrote:

 It got hot enough to seal itself?  Too wierd!

 On 8/13/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Ok, Im cursing myself by posting this I know.  On one of my SDL's which
was supected of having a bad head.  Does not smoke, does not run hot
unless ran low on coolant of course, after sitting overnight has
pressure in system still, also have to add coolant everyday or every
other day.  Sometimes up to 1/2 gal or more.  No leaks, no coolant in
oil, no oil in coolant.  Anyways, the other day wife calls and says car
is getting hot, getting up close to line right before 120, well, getting
close to everheating.  Anyways, she pulls in to somebodys house she
knows I guess and they let it cool off a while, then add coolant(evil
green stuff).  That has been like 3 or 4 days ago.  Every since, there
is NO pressure in the system the next morning and the coolant as not
dropped a bit.  WTF?  This beats all I ever saw.
--
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 OK Don

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  76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] Front plate

2005-08-15 Thread JFreezn
 
In a message dated 8/14/2005 6:53:07 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Washington requires front plates.  Michigan does not, so I don't  have
the necessary hardware to mount one.  I see the holes in the  front
bumper, but looking into them, it's not clear to me what size  hardware
is supposed to go in there.  My Honda had tapped and threaded  holes,
this doesn't appear to.  Is there something I'm missing, or  should I
just drill and use sheet metal screws?  Right now I have the  plate
zip-tied to the grille, but I don't like that because it blocks about  a
quarter of the air intake area.



I have two front mounting plate brackets, one from my 240D (74) and one  from 
my current 79 300SD,  $5 each plus Shipping.   

Jim  Friesen
Phoenix AZ
79 300SD, 261 K miles 
98 ML 320, 137 K  miles



Re: [MBZ] way too much for this car

2005-08-15 Thread Steve MacSween
No, no red flag if the seller has a rating of 2107 with 99.6 percent
positive feedback.

Look at her company name, down below in the listing, sounds Polish. Maybe
she has her company 'home' eBay account in eastern Europe, for tax reasons.

Mac

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Emailed the seller about the wrong choice of words and had this
 interesting thing come up on the Ask A Question form:
 
 The user you are contacting is registered on another eBay site and
 may speak a different language. Your message will be sent exactly as
 typed below.
 
 Does that raise a red flag for anyone else besides me?
 
 On 8/14/05, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 This has one of the best Freudian slip typos I've ever seen:
 
 this car does not run (ceased engine) and will probably never run again
 
 I guess if the engine has seized then it indeed has ceased.
 
 Don
 
 On 8/14/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-190-Series-2-2-diesel-1985-Merc
 edes-Benz-diesel-2-2-4-door-does-not-run_W0QQitemZ4567504481QQcategoryZ6328Q
 QrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
 --
 Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE,
 85 300D,  83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
 
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Re: [MBZ] AC Dead

2005-08-15 Thread JFreezn
 
In a message dated 8/14/2005 12:10:52 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

The AC  in my car is completely dead this morning.I
changed the fuse  to no avail.  The push button control
was replaced about 2 months.  
I suspect it's the blower because there's no air
movement at all.   
The AC had been working fine before I lent the car to
a buddy.   I'm sure it's just a coincidence, but I know
this guy, not accustomed to  the Arizona climate,
always runs the AC on my car at high speed.
Any  suggestion?
Thanks.
David



David, 
 
Did you try the defrost button?  Defrost will start the fan and  compressor 
on an electric relay, without any vacuum.  Normal functioning AC  other than 
defrost requires vacuum to turn on the blower and compressor.   We need to know 
if this is a vacuum source problem or ?
 
Also, about that year, a field modification was made to put the some of the  
AC loads on a separate in line fuse, near or in the fuse box.  A larger  fuse 
was deemed necessary to carry the loads reliably.  Someone else chime  in on 
what year this was added, please.
 
 
 
Jim  Friesen
Phoenix AZ
79 300SD, 261 K miles 
98 ML 320, 137 K  miles


Re: [MBZ] Is this for real?

2005-08-15 Thread Desert Rat
MB never produced a turbo diesel with manual transmission.

On 8/14/05, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 It has the no Grief heater controls too.  No gee whiz junk to break.
 
 At 05:36 PM 8/12/2005, you wrote:
 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-300D-Manual-1984-MERCEDES-300D-RARE-AND-DESIRABLE-NO-RESERVE_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6330QQitemZ4568256207QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW
 
 ebay item 4568256207, owner says it's a gray market 84 300D turbo,
 manual tranny, manual everything, cloth interior, 148Kmi.  Did any
 123s exist in this form, Euro or otherwise?
 
 Right now, it's at $820 with 3 days left.
 
 
 --
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Re: [MBZ] OT Mogs

2005-08-15 Thread Bob DuPuy
Here is the site for mog fest. I sure wish I could be there with one
of mine, but it is a little too far for me to drive.

http://www.northwestmogfest.com/

Bob DuPuy
Parrish, FL
84 416 DOKA



Re: [MBZ] OT: Replacing 1999 Chevy Malibu V6 alternator

2005-08-15 Thread Potter, Tom E
Leave it to GM to make even a simple alternator removal a complicated
procedure that requires 47 special tools. Don't feel bad; Mr. Goodwrench
could not replace it either without a 15-page procedure and a box of
special tools.

Thomas E. Potter
Telephone: (713) 215-2877
Fax: (713) 215-2551
Mobile: (832) 794-0536


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of David Brodbeck
Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2005 9:50 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [MBZ] OT: Replacing 1999 Chevy Malibu V6 alternator


My SO's Chevy Malibu ate its alternator yesterday.  I was hoping to
replace it myself, but I need a little guidance if any of you are
familiar with this car, as I don't have a shop manual.  It's a 1999 V6
model.  The alternator is smack dab on top of the engine, so it's
accessable, at least.  Here are my questions:

1. How does it unbolt?  I see one bolt facing the fender, in front of
the alternator, that looks like it holds it in place.  There's another
at an angle, facing the firewall, behind the alternator...is that the
other one?  Are there any more?  (By in front I mean towards the
front of the car.)

2. How do I release the belt tensioner on the serpentine belt?


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Re: [MBZ] OT Faulkner...was clogged radiator?

2005-08-15 Thread andrew strasfogel
Very nice as far as it gets, but one aches for more...

On 8/12/05, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Speaking of literature, the Bulwer-Lytton award is out for this year --
 
  As he stared at her ample bosom, he daydreamed of the dual Stromberg
 carburetors in his vintage Triumph Spitfire, highly functional yet
 pleasingly formed, perched prominently on top of the intake manifold,
 aching for experienced hands, the small knurled caps of the oil
 dampeners begging to be inspected and adjusted as described in chapter
 seven of the shop manual.
 
 Dan McKay
  Fargo, ND
 
 http://www2.sjsu.edu/depts/english/2005.htm
 
 
 
 --
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 Norman, OK
 '87 300SDL
 '81 240D
 '78 450SLC
 
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Re: [MBZ] Emergency Road Service: Small fuel leak

2005-08-15 Thread andrew strasfogel
I paid $3.06 for high test yesterday.  OUCH!


On 8/13/05, Bill Gallagher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Only a crisis will promote a change .. the red flags are flying on
 Green Peace but who is listening ??. read the 911 commission
 report to support this point of view  not politics but a idea like
 not taxation without representation .not liberal not conservative
 not radical but just a idea Who listens to a idea today ??? Time
 to change to the alternative fuel  People like you and me resist
 change  look at the present endorsed energy bill passed by congress
 and signed by King George  we do not learn by our mistakes
 history repeats itself time and time again ..5.00 dollars a gallon
 and GM and the like will move towards a more efficient machine to carry
 people from place to place .God Bless America and the Corporations
 who make profits on the transition from one technology to another
 It's the American way.
 
 Bill
 1981 300 TD
 
 Dwight E. Giles, Jr. wrote:
 
 Bill,
 It's $2.63/gallon here south of Providence.
 
 Dwight Giles, Jr.
 1979 240D auto, 243K+  miles
 Wickford RI
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Gallagher
 Sent: Friday, August 12, 2005 5:25 PM
 To: Mercedes Mail List
 Subject: [MBZ] Emergency Road Service: Small fuel leak
 
 Gents/Ladies:
Ready to go on a trip tomorrow and noticed a small fuel leak on the
 hoses looping to/from the injectors. While the engine running, you see
 no visible leak but tough the hose and a small amount of diesel fuel is
 on your finger ... the hose itself is darker in color as well as areas
 of the engine  Since the local dealer is closed, looking for
 suggestions for repair that will last for a 400 mile trip
 1) do nothing since it is seepage at this point
 2) duck tape or the like 
 
 Does this line have a lot of pressure in it 
 TIA
 
 Bill
 1981 300 TD
 
 p.s. Just fill it up at 2.55 a gallon south of boston
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Replacing 1999 Chevy Malibu V6 alternator

2005-08-15 Thread Curt Raymond

I'm just catching up on the weekend digests so undoubtably somebodys already 
covered this but...
Serpentine belts are really easy (on American cars anyway, I've never had one 
on anything else) once you know the trick. Locate the belt tensioner, get a 
wrench (not socket) that fits on the bolt in the center of the tensioner pully, 
a longer wrench is better, especially if the tensioner sits low on the engine 
on my '96 Dodge Dakota I use 2 wrenches but its easy to slip and snap yourself, 
be careful.
Anyway, put the wrench on the tensioner and haul back away from the way it 
tensions thus releasing its grip on the belt. Its handy to have another set of 
hands at this point but not vital. My Dakota needed a belt the other day, the 
guys at Speedy Lube quoted my wife $50, I bought a Gator Grip belt for $24, 
we changed it in the driveway in 2 minutes. That kind of quick and sucessful 
repair is great for increasing your mechanic quotient in front of the wife.

-Curt

Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 19:50:14 -0700
From: David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [MBZ] OT: Replacing 1999 Chevy Malibu V6 alternator
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

My SO's Chevy Malibu ate its alternator yesterday.  I was hoping to
replace it myself, but I need a little guidance if any of you are
familiar with this car, as I don't have a shop manual.  It's a 1999 V6
model.  The alternator is smack dab on top of the engine, so it's
accessable, at least.  Here are my questions:

1. How does it unbolt?  I see one bolt facing the fender, in front of
the alternator, that looks like it holds it in place.  There's another
at an angle, facing the firewall, behind the alternator...is that the
other one?  Are there any more?  (By in front I mean towards the
front of the car.)

2. How do I release the belt tensioner on the serpentine belt?



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Re: [MBZ] Blower motor

2005-08-15 Thread andrew strasfogel
BLOWER QUESTION:

Using the AC on my 1983 300td, the low blower setting is almost
imperceptible (though it does work).  I don't get enough cooling so
always have to switch the fan back to automatic, then I get too cold
again.  Is this wimpy low setting on the blower motor normal?  It is
working, but the output is pathetic...



On 8/13/05, Joe Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Don't know, Constantine.  I was just speculating as a result of your
 having received the wrong motor first time around.  Just did a quick
 check and found a vehicle parts finder at:
 http://www.boschusa.com/AutoParts/PartFinder/partfinder.asp
 Don't see any reference to blower motors though.  The partfinder seems
 to be under development; not a lot of useful categories up and running
 yet.
 
 joe
 
 On 8/13/05, Constantine N. Polites [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Joe,
  Does Bosch have a catalog of parts for the MB?  If so, where is it
  available?
 
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Re: [MBZ] diesel prices

2005-08-15 Thread andrew strasfogel
High fuel prices are ALL CLINTON'S FAULT!!

On 8/14/05, Rory [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I live across the border from Osoyoos, BC and diesel there today is
 92.9L C$3.51 per gallon, at today's conversion rate, that's US$2.83.
 our local stations are $2.99!
 
 --
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 Oroville, WA
 1985 300SD
 1982 300TD
 
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Re: [MBZ] well, ok

2005-08-15 Thread andrew strasfogel
BLACK ON BLACK FL CAR??

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Re: [MBZ] diesel prices

2005-08-15 Thread Slozukimc
In a message dated 8/15/2005 9:44:39 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


 High fuel prices are ALL CLINTON'S FAULT!!
 

If that is true then answer me this:  Why is the fuel here in the USA STILL 
cheaper than any other place in the world we would care to live?  What a naiive 
statement that was..Mike


Re: [MBZ] diesel prices

2005-08-15 Thread andrew strasfogel
I thought it was obvious I was being facetious by echoing the right
wing Republican mantra - blame everything on Clinton.


On 8/15/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 In a message dated 8/15/2005 9:44:39 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 
 
 
 High fuel prices are ALL CLINTON'S FAULT!! 
 
 
 If that is true then answer me this:  Why is the fuel here in the USA STILL
 cheaper than any other place in the world we would care to live?  What a
 naiive statement that was..Mike 
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Re: [MBZ] diesel prices

2005-08-15 Thread JJJ
  High fuel prices are ALL CLINTON'S FAULT!! 



If that is true then answer me this:  Why is the fuel here in the USA STILL 
cheaper than any other place in the world we would care to live?  What a naiive 
statement that was..Mike 




old bill will be dead for years and he'll still get credit for geopolitical 
events that take/took years and many to foment...from the noise generated about 
him and his wife, one would think they have extreme mojo...i'd still rather 
drink beer with bill on the stoop...


[MBZ] Plug-in hybrids get 250 mpg

2005-08-15 Thread andrew strasfogel
Experimental Hybrid Cars Get Up to 250 Mpg  
By TIM MOLLOY | Associated Press 
August 15, 2005 

CORTE MADERA, Calif. (AP) - Politicians and automakers say a car that
can both reduce greenhouse gases and free America from its reliance on
foreign oil is years or even decades away. Ron Gremban says such a car
is parked in his garage.

It looks like a typical Toyota Prius hybrid, but in the trunk sits an
80-miles-per-gallon secret - a stack of 18 brick-sized batteries that
boosts the car's high mileage with an extra electrical charge so it
can burn even less fuel.

Gremban, an electrical engineer and committed environmentalist, spent
several months and $3,000 tinkering with his car.

Like all hybrids, his Prius increases fuel efficiency by harnessing
small amounts of electricity generated during braking and coasting.
The extra batteries let him store extra power by plugging the car into
a wall outlet at his home in this San Francisco suburb - all for about
a quarter.

He's part of a small but growing movement. Plug-in hybrids aren't
yet cost-efficient, but some of the dozen known experimental models
have gotten up to 250 mpg.

They have support not only from environmentalists but also from
conservative foreign policy hawks who insist Americans fuel terrorism
through their gas guzzling.

And while the technology has existed for three decades, automakers are
beginning to take notice, too.

So far, DaimlerChrysler AG (DCX) is the only company that has
committed to building its own plug-in hybrids, quietly pledging to
make up to 40 vans for U.S. companies. But Toyota Motor Corp. (TM)
officials who initially frowned on people altering their cars now say
they may be able to learn from them.

They're like the hot rodders of yesterday who did everything to soup
up their cars. It was all about horsepower and bling-bling, lots of
chrome and accessories, said Cindy Knight, a Toyota spokeswoman.
Maybe the hot rodders of tomorrow are the people who want to get in
there and see what they can do about increasing fuel economy.

The extra batteries let Gremban drive for 20 miles with a 50-50 mix of
gas and electricity. Even after the car runs out of power from the
batteries and switches to the standard hybrid mode, it gets the
typical Prius fuel efficiency of around 45 mpg. As long as Gremban
doesn't drive too far in a day, he says, he gets 80 mpg.

The value of plug-in hybrids is they can dramatically reduce gasoline
usage for the first few miles every day, Gremban said. The average
for people's usage of a car is somewhere around 30 to 40 miles per
day. During that kind of driving, the plug-in hybrid can make a
dramatic difference.

Backers of plug-in hybrids acknowledge that the electricity to boost
their cars generally comes from fossil fuels that create greenhouse
gases, but they say that process still produces far less pollution
than oil. They also note that electricity could be generated cleanly
from solar power.

Gremban rigged his car to promote the nonprofit CalCars Initiative, a
San Francisco Bay area-based volunteer effort that argues automakers
could mass produce plug-in hybrids at a reasonable price.

But Toyota and other car companies say they are worried about the
cost, convenience and safety of plug-in hybrids - and note that
consumers haven't embraced all-electric cars because of the
inconvenience of recharging them like giant cell phones.

Automakers have spent millions of dollars telling motorists that
hybrids don't need to be plugged in, and don't want to confuse the
message.

Nonetheless, plug-in hybrids are starting to get the backing of
prominent hawks like former CIA director James Woolsey and Frank
Gaffney, President Reagan's undersecretary of defense. They have
joined Set America Free, a group that wants the government to spend
$12 billion over four years on plug-in hybrids, alternative fuels and
other measures to reduce foreign oil dependence.

Gaffney, who heads the Washington, D.C.-based Center for Security
Policy, said Americans would embrace plug-ins if they understood
arguments from him and others who say gasoline contributes to oil-rich
Middle Eastern governments that support terrorism.

The more we are consuming oil that either comes from places that are
bent on our destruction or helping those who are ... the more we are
enabling those who are trying to kill us, Gaffney said.

DaimlerChrysler spokesman Nick Cappa said plug-in hybrids are ideal
for companies with fleets of vehicles that can be recharged at a
central location at night. He declined to name the companies buying
the vehicles and said he did not know the vehicles' mileage or cost,
or when they would be available.

Others are modifying hybrids, too.

Monrovia-based Energy CS has converted two Priuses to get up to 230
mpg by using powerful lithium ion batteries. It is forming a new
company, EDrive Systems, that will convert hybrids to plug-ins for
about $12,000 starting next year, company vice president Greg Hanssen
said.


Re: [MBZ] AC Dead

2005-08-15 Thread DElliott%SWS




David,

There is an interesting section in the below web page about repairing your
AC system, also diesel purge, odometer repair and transmission vacuum valve
lever replacement.  Interesting site about W123 maintenance.  By the way I
am in the same boat. I am not sure where to begin, I guess Jim is saying
that if your defrost button activates then you know it is not your AC
compressor ?

http://dieselgiant.com/mercedes_diesel_maintenance_tips.htm

Dan Elliott
82 300D-T 84kmi




Re: [MBZ] Part number request

2005-08-15 Thread Rusty Cullens
603 098 03 65. 126 725 03 65. Yes, I do carry purge.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nick Wellinghoff
Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2005 7:54 PM
To: 'Mercedes mailing list'
Subject: [MBZ] Part number request

Does anyone know the part numbers for the following items?
1982 300 SD
The seal that joins the air filter U tube to the air filter. Not the
seal
that joins the turbo to the U tube. But the larger one on top.

The outside weather stripping for the outside front door window.

Does Rusty sell diesel purge? 

Thanks,
Nick






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Re: [MBZ] AC Dead

2005-08-15 Thread Dave M.
I don't know what year the fuse fix was added, or if it ever was
before the W123 ended production. My 1984 300D still used the 25A
stock fuse and it was always melting/blowing and causing problems. I
added an external GM-style 30A fuse located in that little relay box
on the driver's fender, which solved the problem permanently. This was
cheaper than using new OE components (I had the GM stuff floating
around in my Pot O' Gold), although if you can find them used that
would be a more 'correct' solution. Even the early 124's had this
problem, it was corrected in the middle of the 1987 production run...
all 124's after 1987 have an external 30A flat fuse.

:-)

-Dave M.
Boise, ID


 --
 Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 01:48:29 EDT
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] AC Dead
 
 
 (snip)
 
 Also, about that year, a field modification was made to put the some of the
 AC loads on a separate in line fuse, near or in the fuse box.  A larger  fuse
 was deemed necessary to carry the loads reliably.  Someone else chime  in on
 what year this was added, please.
 
 
 
 Jim  Friesen
 Phoenix AZ



[MBZ] AKP-Wagen experimentation begins...

2005-08-15 Thread Christopher McCann
yesterday I finally got around to draining my fuel
tank. Not nearly as rusty as I thought. filtered the
fuel through thick denim (will filter to 5 microns),
then filtered a mix of used veggie oil, used crankcase
oil, used oil bath air cleaner oil and then tossed in
a gallon of canola oil and a quart of 10W-40 I didn't
want. Then topped it off with GE 8932Q additive. All
in all the mix is 1 part goop to 6 parts diesel#2. So
far so good. Engine runs quieter and there are no
billowing clouds of smoke, which I expected from the
addition of so much motor oil. I guess
INJECTING/ATOMIZING it rather than partially burning
oil that gets passed rings makes a big difference.

Will slowly increase my proportion of goop to diesel
over time. It is quite amazing what will make a diesel
go!

I have a source for UNUSED motor oil/hy-tran/VO for 25
cents a gallon here in town. More on that later. I'm
gonna try to check that out today.



Christopher McCann, Raytown, Missouri
-1985 300SD, 208K miles, Wulf 
(http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD)
-1976 240D, ManyK miles,  AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen 
= Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle)
-1998 Toyota Sienna CE, 99K miles, The Van




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Re: [MBZ] diesel prices

2005-08-15 Thread Slozukimc
In a message dated 8/15/2005 10:14:44 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


 I thought it was obvious I was being facetious by echoing the right
 wing Republican mantra - blame everything on Clinton.
 

Gotcha..I am terrible at trying to get humorous statements in 
type..No tone of voice to go by.  Mike


[MBZ] 123 AT kickdown solenoid

2005-08-15 Thread b1mbooth
My '84 300DT likes to blow the fuse any time I floor the pedal and engage the 
kickdown. I have checked the switch and it tests ok. VOM is telling me that I 
have a dead short in the solenoid. Has anyone replaced one of those before? Is 
there any good automatic transmission manual available for these cars?

Thanks,
Ben Booth

'84 300DT 245K
'82 300DT 350K (rebuilding after rear ended)
'72 220D  330K (first benz - owned for 21 yrs. Restoring)




Re: [MBZ] Blower motor

2005-08-15 Thread Marshall Booth

andrew strasfogel wrote:

BLOWER QUESTION:

Using the AC on my 1983 300td, the low blower setting is almost
imperceptible (though it does work).  I don't get enough cooling so
always have to switch the fan back to automatic, then I get too cold
again.  Is this wimpy low setting on the blower motor normal?  It is
working, but the output is pathetic...


If the temp becomes too cold with the blower control in the automatic 
mode, it's PROBABLY because the temp controller is working improperly - 
NOT because the blower control is not working properly.


This MIGHT be because the tube from the blower to the in cabin temp 
sensor is not drawing sufficient air across the sensor. The tube OFTEN 
rots or becomes disconnected and this OR much less frequently if the 
sensor degenerates, can result in erratic or unexpected 
temperature/blower motor operation.


I'm sure it IS possible that the low speed setting to the blower to be 
wimpy, but that shouldn't result in temp output with the blower control 
in the automatic mode being too cold.


Diagnosing this system is tedious, but NOT particularly difficult IF you 
follow the entire troubleshooting procedure outlined in the factory 
manual (not quite as complex as the systems incorporated into later 126s 
in the mid '85 and in the 201/124s).


Marshall
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  der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
'87 300TD 181Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 199Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 
159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi

  Diesel Technical Advisor MBCA, member GWSection
http://www.dhc.net/~pmhack/mercedes/mbooth1.htm




Re: [MBZ] Blower motor

2005-08-15 Thread andrew strasfogel
Thanks, Marshall.  I recently changed the foam connector hose.

My question was really how much action can you expect to get from the
blower on the 'low' setting

On 8/15/05, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 andrew strasfogel wrote:
  BLOWER QUESTION:
 
  Using the AC on my 1983 300td, the low blower setting is almost
  imperceptible (though it does work).  I don't get enough cooling so
  always have to switch the fan back to automatic, then I get too cold
  again.  Is this wimpy low setting on the blower motor normal?  It is
  working, but the output is pathetic...
 
 If the temp becomes too cold with the blower control in the automatic
 mode, it's PROBABLY because the temp controller is working improperly -
 NOT because the blower control is not working properly.
 
 This MIGHT be because the tube from the blower to the in cabin temp
 sensor is not drawing sufficient air across the sensor. The tube OFTEN
 rots or becomes disconnected and this OR much less frequently if the
 sensor degenerates, can result in erratic or unexpected
 temperature/blower motor operation.
 
 I'm sure it IS possible that the low speed setting to the blower to be
 wimpy, but that shouldn't result in temp output with the blower control
 in the automatic mode being too cold.
 
 Diagnosing this system is tedious, but NOT particularly difficult IF you
 follow the entire troubleshooting procedure outlined in the factory
 manual (not quite as complex as the systems incorporated into later 126s
 in the mid '85 and in the 201/124s).
 
 Marshall
 --
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   der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi
   Diesel Technical Advisor MBCA, member GWSection
 http://www.dhc.net/~pmhack/mercedes/mbooth1.htm
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Diesel vs. Gas

2005-08-15 Thread Gabriel S.
I feel your pain paul...i took a trip to the napa
valley this weekend got reamed for fuel...i never
noticed the increase in diesel price until now!
--- LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 No, Kleb ... buy stock in or open your own GreaseCar
 franchise. 
 
 On 8/13/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  holy crap. Oh well folks, get ready for the end
 times.
  
  Paul Raheb wrote:
  
   Last week I filled up with Diesel at $2.79.
   TODAY I  *S.A.B.* WHEN I FILLED UP WITH DIESEL
 AT $3.15/gal.
   OTHER FREEWAY CLOSE LOCATIONS ARE CONVENIENCE
 PRICED AT $3.29 to $3.39/gal.
  
  
   Paul
   Visalia, CA
  
   1985 300TD-T Mommy Wagon
   1984 300D-T Hot Rod
   PaulRaheb(at)comcast.net
  
  
  
  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 22:25:48 +
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Mercedes Digest, Vol 3, Issue 95
  
  Message: 4
  Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 15:04:31 -0400
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: [MBZ] Diesel Vs Gas Choice
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Message-ID:
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 charset=iso-8859-1;
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  Hi All,
  
  Normally,  this would be a no-brainer - I'd buy
 the diesel -  but with the
  increase in diesel fuel and the price
 differential between E300Ds and
  comparable E320s,  I'm having trouble seeing the
 best car to buy.
  
  Here's the deal:  my wife has a 4 day/week, 100
 mile round trip commute.
  She wants something safe, comfortable and
 economical for the drive.  My 1st
  choice is a 96-99 E300D but they're pretty
 scarce and when I find one they
  have a ~ $5000 premium over a comparable gas
 E320.  Also, the price of
  diesel keeps going up and last I checked was
 around $2.40 - $2.50.
  
  So, I have to factor in:
-- the rising cost of diesel fuel (of course,
 gas is getting really high
  also)
-- the price premium for Gas Vs. Diesel
 vehicles
-- the expected higher maintanence costs for
 the Gas engine
-- the longer lifespan  reduced maint of a
 diesel
-- most 96-99 E300Ds are high mileage.
-- ?? Anything else I've forgotten?
  
  What do ya'll think???  Should I consider a E320
 or keep looking for a
  reasonable 96-99 E300D
  Thanks for your insight,
  
  
  
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Re: [MBZ] How far back do VIN checks go?

2005-08-15 Thread Kevin
On Fri, Aug 12, 2005 at 09:55:18PM -0700, David Brodbeck wrote:
 Craig McCluskey wrote:
  I've been wondering how old a car one can get a VIN check on.
  
  Anyone have any ideas?
 
 If you go earlier than about 1982, you'll find you can't do VIN checks,
 because before then the VINs don't use the modern system.  For example,
 the VIN on my '75 VW Bus was very short and all numeric.  Outfits like
 CarFax won't accept that type of number.

The change was for the 1981 model year. Before that, manufacturers did
what they wanted AFA vin.

K



Re: [MBZ] Plug-in hybrids get 250 mpg

2005-08-15 Thread Mitch Haley

Remove the petrol engine entirely and the MPG goes to infinity.
That does not mean you've invented perpetual motion however. 
They can't just leave the electricity out of the calculation
as if it's free.



Re: [MBZ] Part number request

2005-08-15 Thread Mitch Haley
Rusty Cullens wrote:
 
 603 098 03 65. 

The 617.951 U tube gasket is now a 603 P/N?
(1982 300SD)



Re: [MBZ] Part number request

2005-08-15 Thread Rusty Cullens
yup

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Part number request

Rusty Cullens wrote:
 
 603 098 03 65. 

The 617.951 U tube gasket is now a 603 P/N?
(1982 300SD)

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Re: [MBZ] Leak detection - AC System

2005-08-15 Thread Mitch Haley
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Hello All,
 
 I am trying to get my AC working again.  There is a sticker in my engine
 compartment that notes something about being able to detect leaks in AC
 system with a certain kind of light, I guess this is a sign that it has
 been converted to R134a ? 

Quick connectors instead of screw-on fittings are the proper sign of
R134 installation. The blacklight sticker says that they put UV dye in
the system to find a leak.



Re: [MBZ] diesel prices

2005-08-15 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Mon, 15 Aug 2005 09:43:55 -0400 andrew strasfogel
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 High fuel prices are ALL CLINTON'S FAULT!!

I think that's giving him too much credit.



Craig



Re: [MBZ] Plug-in hybrids get 250 mpg

2005-08-15 Thread Craig McCluskey
 He's part of a small but growing movement. Plug-in hybrids aren't
 yet cost-efficient, but some of the dozen known experimental models
 have gotten up to 250 mpg.

This is deceptive because they aren't accounting for the energy received
from the electrical outlet. I can get 250 mpg from my 240D/3.0 when I fill
it up at the pump, too -- so long as someone else is adding to my tank
when I'm not looking. (There was an interesting story along these lines
when I worked at Hewlett Packard in Colorado Springs about someone who had
bought a new car and was thrilled about the mileage he was getting --
until the fellows who were adding fuel to his tank every day started
siphoning instead of adding.)


Craig



Re: [MBZ] Plug-in hybrids get 250 mpg

2005-08-15 Thread LT Don
There were a couple (two if I remember correctly) electric cars on
the island when I was stationed on Governors Island in NYC in the
early 1980s. And they were very cost efficient for the owners, since
all utilities were included as part of base housing. Hey, if I could
get free electricity I might be in the market for one myself.

On 8/15/05, Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  He's part of a small but growing movement. Plug-in hybrids aren't
  yet cost-efficient, but some of the dozen known experimental models
  have gotten up to 250 mpg.




[MBZ] putting a 116 617 engine into a 126

2005-08-15 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
OK, so I got this 84 300SD I picked up for $100 to part out.  Paint is 
screwed, seats are screwed, engine is bad.  Was going to part it out but 
got to looking at there is NO rust, no dents etc.  I have a good turbo 
engine in a 116 and was trying to think of all the differences between 
those and the 126's.  So far I can think of things that would have to be 
swapped: linkage, motor mount arms, oil filter canister, air cleaner 
maybe.  What else am I missing?  Is the exhaust hookup the same?  Any 
other electrical differences as far as glow plugs go?  What about the 
vacuum pump?  Does one from the 126 bolt right up to the 116 style 
engine or will I have to make the 116 vacuum pump work in the 126?

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Re: [MBZ] putting a 116 617 engine into a 126

2005-08-15 Thread Marshall Booth

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
OK, so I got this 84 300SD I picked up for $100 to part out.  Paint is 
screwed, seats are screwed, engine is bad.  Was going to part it out but 
got to looking at there is NO rust, no dents etc.  I have a good turbo 
engine in a 116 and was trying to think of all the differences between 
those and the 126's.  So far I can think of things that would have to be 
swapped: linkage, motor mount arms, oil filter canister, air cleaner 
maybe.  What else am I missing?  Is the exhaust hookup the same?  Any 
other electrical differences as far as glow plugs go?  What about the 
vacuum pump?  Does one from the 126 bolt right up to the 116 style 
engine or will I have to make the 116 vacuum pump work in the 126?


There could be a few problems, but they are BOTH OM617.95 engines - the 
116 engine is a 617.950 while the 300SD had a 617.951 engine. The 
transmissions ARE different so all the the vacuum and accelerator 
linkage from the newer car would have to be used with the newer 
transmission as both vacuum AND cables are needed on the later 722.3 
series transmission vs the 116 series 722.1 series transmission. I THINK 
that whatever vacuum pump is there can remain there. I don't know if a 
piston pump can replace a diaphragm pump. I think that the turbo from a 
617.950 will hook right up to the exhaust of the W126 (but I've never 
tried it). The earliest 617.95xs ('79 or earlier) developed 110 hp and 
went to 120 in 1980 and finally 123 hp in 1984). Hooking up AC MIGHT be 
a problem (especially if the 116 used a York compressor on the right 
side of the engine rather than a GM rotary on the left side - I'm just 
not sure what that looks like - ask someone with a 116 SD or better yet 
someone with both W116 AND W126 300SDs).


Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] Blower motor

2005-08-15 Thread Marshall Booth

andrew strasfogel wrote:

Thanks, Marshall.  I recently changed the foam connector hose.

My question was really how much action can you expect to get from the
blower on the 'low' setting



The low setting should be slower and thus move less air than the 
slowest speed of the 3 or 4 auto settings. The high setting will 
move MORE air than any speed of the auto setting.


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Re: [MBZ] putting a 116 617 engine into a 126

2005-08-15 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Yea, forgot about the AC.  The compressor is the same and in the same 
place as the 84, so I assume the lines will just plug right into the 
back of the 116 engined compressor.  Did know the trannies were 
different as well.


Marshall Booth wrote:


Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

OK, so I got this 84 300SD I picked up for $100 to part out.  Paint is 
screwed, seats are screwed, engine is bad.  Was going to part it out but 
got to looking at there is NO rust, no dents etc.  I have a good turbo 
engine in a 116 and was trying to think of all the differences between 
those and the 126's.  So far I can think of things that would have to be 
swapped: linkage, motor mount arms, oil filter canister, air cleaner 
maybe.  What else am I missing?  Is the exhaust hookup the same?  Any 
other electrical differences as far as glow plugs go?  What about the 
vacuum pump?  Does one from the 126 bolt right up to the 116 style 
engine or will I have to make the 116 vacuum pump work in the 126?



There could be a few problems, but they are BOTH OM617.95 engines - the 
116 engine is a 617.950 while the 300SD had a 617.951 engine. The 
transmissions ARE different so all the the vacuum and accelerator 
linkage from the newer car would have to be used with the newer 
transmission as both vacuum AND cables are needed on the later 722.3 
series transmission vs the 116 series 722.1 series transmission. I THINK 
that whatever vacuum pump is there can remain there. I don't know if a 
piston pump can replace a diaphragm pump. I think that the turbo from a 
617.950 will hook right up to the exhaust of the W126 (but I've never 
tried it). The earliest 617.95xs ('79 or earlier) developed 110 hp and 
went to 120 in 1980 and finally 123 hp in 1984). Hooking up AC MIGHT be 
a problem (especially if the 116 used a York compressor on the right 
side of the engine rather than a GM rotary on the left side - I'm just 
not sure what that looks like - ask someone with a 116 SD or better yet 
someone with both W116 AND W126 300SDs).


Marshall


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Re: [MBZ] well, ok

2005-08-15 Thread Kevin
On Mon, Aug 15, 2005 at 09:47:23AM -0400, andrew strasfogel wrote:
 BLACK ON BLACK FL CAR??

Drugs will do that to you.

Worst I heard of was a triple black 72 dart with A/C delete, arizona car.
I bet the original owner doesn't remember the sixties :)

K



Re: [MBZ] Plug-in hybrids get 250 mpg

2005-08-15 Thread Joe Knight
Kind of like running on natural gas.  You can do pretty well if you
can fill up without having to pay for the electricity to compress the
stuff into your tank.

joe