[MBZ] 240D in Sunil's neck of the woods

[Rick Knoble]

http://columbus.craigslist.org/car/163209742.html

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Rick Knoble 
'85 300 CD
'87 190 DT
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Johnny B,

Are you talking about the "on hat rack/inside rear window" third
brake light on the 190???   I think, but I've been wrong before, that
the light from any 201 or 124 would fit...

Seems like the window angle is similar.

I'm looking for the third brake light for a 16V that is incorporated
into the wing..   Euro 16V's did not have that.  And therefore,
got 1/3 more downforce from the wing..  Of course, that involves
going quite fast!!!

Take care,
Chuck
Phoenix AZ


On May 21, 2006, at 11:31 AM, John Berryman wrote:

>   The eye level brake light on the 190D Euro disintegrated when I
> attempted to repair it. The car lived in Fla until I got my hands on
> it. The paint was burnt from the sun and I'm assuming the light
> suffered from the same. It literally fell apart when I pulled the 2
> tabs and removed the cover.
>   I need a replacement, color irrelevant as I have the technology to
> change that. Anyone (Kaleb, Mitch) want to sell me one? I would want
> the entire assembly including the base. I don't care if it's not
> perfect as long as it will mount-up and function.
>
> Thanks,
> Johnny B.
> I Mac Therefore I am
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Re: [MBZ] Craigslist ad: wrong year/model?

[Desert Rat]

Yes they did and for the US market.

On 5/21/06, kevin kraly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Did MB build both a 350SD and a 350SDL?  I guess anything's possible with
swaps.  I'm half tempted to go and take a look at it.

Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon
1981 300CD 204K miles, Giesela


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Re: [MBZ] Craigslist ad: wrong year/model?

[kevin kraly]

Did MB build both a 350SD and a 350SDL?  I guess anything's possible with 
swaps.  I'm half tempted to go and take a look at it.


Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon
1981 300CD 204K miles, Giesela 

Re: [MBZ] I was interested when it was at $500, but now people are going ape crazy over it

[ernest breakfield]

doh!

of course! what was i thinking,...  ;-*


cheers!
e


Bob Rentfro wrote:
> 
> For Kaleb it is...that's $281! He could buy a 240D and 0.275 of a wrecked
> '89 300D!
> 
> Bob Rentfro
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> > $500 is OK, but $781 is "ape crazy"?
> >
> >
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> >>
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> >> Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
> >>   91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL,
> >>   85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D,
> >>   76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] Craigslist ad: wrong year/model?

[Alex Chamberlain]

On 5/21/06, kevin kraly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


http://portland.craigslist.org/car/162950874.html

Says it's a 1985 350SD, and that it's a European model.  It seems
WAY overpriced with a rust spot, dinghed up exterior and rear
bumper
damage.



It does have euro lights, although that doesn't mean much anymore since
they're so easy to swap.  I think cloth seats are a better giveaway for Euro
cars than lights or even bumpers---nobody is going to go to all the trouble
to swap interiors.  (I know that not all gray-market cars have cloth, but
many [maybe most] I've seen do.)

I bet some moron or prankster just stuck the 350SD badge on the trunk at
some point and it's actually a plain-jane 617, modulo the headlights.  A
post-accident swap of a trunklid from a 350SD would be even more likely
except that if the low-res pictures are to be believed the "TURBODIESEL"
badge is there on the right side of the lid, which would read just "TURBO"
on the 350.

Alex Chamberlain
'87 300D Turbo
'93 Isuzu Trooper

[MBZ] '78 450SLC ignition question

[OK Don]

It runs!!! It started right up!

I'm still adjusting fluid levels - coolant, tranny, etc. I need to put
the hood back on. I can't find the rubber mounts for the air cleaner -
will have to get another set.

Here's the question - there's a green wire beside the coil - what does
it go to? The coil? If so, which terminal (it can reach either one)?

For those who don't remember my trials with the SLC, two and a half
years ago it got hard to start one week, then the next week would not
start at all. It tried to run a cylinder or two, but not enough to
run. I ran diagnostics on the fuel system, ignition system, checked
cam timing, compression, etc. Everything looked good.
I had noticed over the previous two years that it would 'use' coolant
and oil if I made several WOT runs.  I also found in tearing down the
intake system that all of the bolts on the right bank were finger
loose. Interestingly, I also found that the head bolts on that side
are so tight that I stripped the heads on some, and broke the U wrench
for those under the cam trying to loosen them. I've only been able to
remove three of the head bolts on that side.
I bought a used engine, replaced all the rubber seals, copper seals,
gaskets, timing chain and rails, had the head and valves
checked/ground, new valve seals, etc. There a lot of rubber seals in
the intake manifold and injection systems that were hard and brittle.
They have all been replaced. I took the best parts from the two
engines, new water pump, etc., and SLOWLY re-assembled everything.
Cleaning and painting all the brackets, visible parts, etc. also took
a lot of the time.

Today was the first time I tried to start it, and it started almost
immediately. I also found that my timing light no longer works, so I
need to get another one to set the timing a bit more accurately than
the "ear" method.

More updates as they occur ---

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Norman, OK
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Sir Winston Churchill
'90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager

Re: [MBZ] Craigslist ad: wrong year/model?

[kevin kraly]

perhaps this one has one of those Chevy 'upgrades'?

Would such an "upgrade" be any better than the 3.5L (350) rod-bender, or 
were you talking about a transplanted GM 350 Cu.in diesel?  hahahahaha!


Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon
1981 300CD 204K miles, Giesela, exhaust leak finally found! 

Re: [MBZ] 190E questions

[Desert Rat]

Kevin,while the 2.6 is a 6 cylinder gas, the 2.3 is a 4 cylinder gas engine.
The 2.6 is shoehorned in and is hard to work on and not much faster than the
4 cylinder model.

The early 190D is economical but not much faster than a W123 240D.

If I can be of any help out here in the Palm Springs area, let me know.


On 5/21/06, kevin kraly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Hello everyone.

My sister in So Cal is looking at Mercedes 190E's, the latest one being a
1992 190E 2.6 with 112K miles on it for $3300.  The car is for her
fiance's
daughter, so they want to find a relatively good one for around 3K.  The
first one was a $2700 1991 with 166K miles on it that had obvious
vac/climate control problems (hot air coming out the side vents with cool
AC
coming out the center).
Is there a similar buyers guide like that for the W124 for a W201?  I'm
sure
that most of the stuff on there would apply to that chassis as well.  Are
there any years that should be avoided?  Which model year is the best for
these cars, and which engine is the more reliable of the two?  Of course,
a
190D, in my opinion, would be best, but...

Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon
1981 300CD 204K miles, Giesela


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Re: [MBZ] Need eye level brake light for 201 '86 190D

[Sunil Hari]

"I have the technology" ?

Better than it was before.  Better.  Faster.  Stronger.

(cue theme music)

On 5/21/06, John Berryman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


The eye level brake light on the 190D Euro disintegrated when I
attempted to repair it. The car lived in Fla until I got my hands on
it. The paint was burnt from the sun and I'm assuming the light
suffered from the same. It literally fell apart when I pulled the 2
tabs and removed the cover.
I need a replacement, color irrelevant as I have the technology to
change that. Anyone (Kaleb, Mitch) want to sell me one? I would want
the entire assembly including the base. I don't care if it's not
perfect as long as it will mount-up and function.

Thanks,
Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am

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Re: [MBZ] Tire Purchase DIY

[mykd1]

I've been to Sears before for tires and last I knew their policy was to use a 
torque wrench on alloy wheels. If they don't know what a torque wrench is they 
shouldn't be working there 
 
69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles
72 350SL   108,000 Miles
2004 VW Passat 4 Motion
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I bought a set of kumhos from tire rack to install on my 85 300D, have 
not done it yet.  Everyone here says they are great.

Tony Wirtel wrote:

>>yea, sears is another one that has different spec tires than a dealer,
>>in fact, they will have the sears logo on them.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ---
> 
> I've liked Kumho tires for  some time.   Went to Sears to replace a set on
> my wifes Passat and guess what- the tire that is dressed to look/sound like
> their current 60k mile tire is actually only the new tread pattern onto an
> old carcass, is good for only 40k miles and (drum roll please) is made
> especially for Sears in China.  Same price- no thanks.   Didn't see the
> Sears name on it though.
> 
> Now, all of my Kumhos (20 so far) as well as the 2 just bought from Tire
> Rack instead of Sears have been made in Korea.  Makes a difference to me.
> 
> If only I could mount the things myself.  Local shop "forgot" that I wanted
> to torque the rims myself; caught after the first tire was done.  Somehow an
> 80# torque stick managed to apply at least 140# of torque.  Neither the tech
> or writer appeared to know what a torque wrench was.
> 
> Tony Wirtel
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[MBZ] Service Manuals 4 Sale in PHX

[Bob Rentfro]

Lookie fellas.

http://phoenix.craigslist.org/pts/163118670.html

Bob Rentfro
'77 300D 153K
Litchfield Park, AZ
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There ya have it folks, the miracles of modern technology

69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles
72 350SL   108,000 Miles
2004 VW Passat 4 Motion
1999 Mazda Miata


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Harry Asked < pads?>>

Hi Harry,
Check out this article <
http://www.tirerack.com/brakes/tech/techpage.jsp?techidˆ >>

Tells about noise, braking ability and wear & tear -

Sincerely,
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> Any idea what the rotor wear and tear comparisons are between OE and
> ceramic
> pads?
>
> Harry Watkins
> Newton, MS
> 86 SDL Silver
> 85 300D Euro
> 86 SDL Gold
> 81 240D manual trans
>
>
>
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>
>> I installed a set of Axxis ceramic pads on my Passat about 6 months ago.
> Very little dust and it doesn't stick to the wheels. They are also fairly
> quiet and don't fade under heavy use. Cost a little more, but are worth
> it.
>>
>> 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles
>> 72 350SL   108,000 Miles
>> 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion
>> 1999 Mazda Miata
>>
>>
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>>
>> On Motorweek this morning (SpeedTV)  the subject of brake dust on
> wheels
>> came up.  They said one way to avoid getting brake dust on wheels is to
>> install Ceramic Brake Pads.  Seems the Ceramic Pads give off a white-ish
>> dust that's not very noticeable.  I;ve heard of the Porsche Ceramic Brake
>> System that Porsche offers for a handsome $ value,  but never ceramic
>> pads
>> that can be installed in normal calipers.  Have you?
>>
>> Any experience with them?TIA -
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[MBZ] 190E questions

[kevin kraly]

Hello everyone.

My sister in So Cal is looking at Mercedes 190E's, the latest one being a 
1992 190E 2.6 with 112K miles on it for $3300.  The car is for her fiance's 
daughter, so they want to find a relatively good one for around 3K.  The 
first one was a $2700 1991 with 166K miles on it that had obvious 
vac/climate control problems (hot air coming out the side vents with cool AC 
coming out the center).
Is there a similar buyers guide like that for the W124 for a W201?  I'm sure 
that most of the stuff on there would apply to that chassis as well.  Are 
there any years that should be avoided?  Which model year is the best for 
these cars, and which engine is the more reliable of the two?  Of course, a 
190D, in my opinion, would be best, but...


Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon
1981 300CD 204K miles, Giesela 

Re: [MBZ] I was interested when it was at $500, but now people are going ape crazy over it

[Robert & Tara Ludwick]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that the same dealer we busted about 
a year ago for having his family members schill bidding?


Oh look at this one, there is a  zero feedback bidder running the price 
up. H.


-Robert

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$500 is OK, but $781 is "ape crazy"?


"Kaleb C. Striplin" wrote:


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  85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D,
  76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] Craigslist ad: wrong year/model?

[Jim Cathey]

Says it's a 1985 350SD, and that it's a European model.


Probably a european-delivery model.  If the 350 is actually right,
perhaps this one has one of those Chevy 'upgrades'?  :-)

Overpriced, yeah.

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] I was interested when it was at $500, but now people are going ape crazy over it

[Bob Rentfro]

For Kaleb it is...that's $281! He could buy a 240D and 0.275 of a wrecked 
'89 300D!


Bob Rentfro


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$500 is OK, but $781 is "ape crazy"?


"Kaleb C. Striplin" wrote:


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  91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL,
  85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D,
  76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250
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[MBZ] Craigslist ad: wrong year/model?

[kevin kraly]

http://portland.craigslist.org/car/162950874.html

Says it's a 1985 350SD, and that it's a European model.  It seems 
WAY overpriced with a rust spot, dinghed up exterior and rear bumper 
damage.


Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon
1981 300CD 204K miles, Giesela 

Re: [MBZ] I was interested when it was at $500, but now people are going ape crazy over it

[Bob Rentfro]

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going ape crazy over it




$500 is OK, but $781 is "ape crazy"?


"Kaleb C. Striplin" wrote:


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  85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D,
  76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] Brake Pad Suggestion

[l02turner]

Harry Asked >


Hi Harry,
Check out this article < 
http://www.tirerack.com/brakes/tech/techpage.jsp?techid=88 >>


Tells about noise, braking ability and wear & tear -

Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo)
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brake Pad Suggestion


Any idea what the rotor wear and tear comparisons are between OE and 
ceramic

pads?

Harry Watkins
Newton, MS
86 SDL Silver
85 300D Euro
86 SDL Gold
81 240D manual trans



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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brake Pad Suggestion



I installed a set of Axxis ceramic pads on my Passat about 6 months ago.

Very little dust and it doesn't stick to the wheels. They are also fairly
quiet and don't fade under heavy use. Cost a little more, but are worth 
it.


69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles
72 350SL   108,000 Miles
2004 VW Passat 4 Motion
1999 Mazda Miata


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Subject: [MBZ] Brake Pad Suggestion


On Motorweek this morning (SpeedTV)  the subject of brake dust on

wheels

came up.  They said one way to avoid getting brake dust on wheels is to
install Ceramic Brake Pads.  Seems the Ceramic Pads give off a white-ish
dust that's not very noticeable.  I;ve heard of the Porsche Ceramic Brake
System that Porsche offers for a handsome $ value,  but never ceramic 
pads

that can be installed in normal calipers.  Have you?

Any experience with them?TIA -




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[MBZ] Need eye level brake light for 201 '86 190D

[John Berryman]

	The eye level brake light on the 190D Euro disintegrated when I  
attempted to repair it. The car lived in Fla until I got my hands on  
it. The paint was burnt from the sun and I'm assuming the light  
suffered from the same. It literally fell apart when I pulled the 2  
tabs and removed the cover.
	I need a replacement, color irrelevant as I have the technology to  
change that. Anyone (Kaleb, Mitch) want to sell me one? I would want  
the entire assembly including the base. I don't care if it's not  
perfect as long as it will mount-up and function.


Thanks,
Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am

Re: [MBZ] oh sweet mother of god, I have seen it all now

[l02turner]

H!  LOL!  when I saw this description :>>


Dear Gentlemen,
There is *NO* such thing as a *Small* under dash fire!  Geez!  The damage 
continues unseen in all kinds of places!


They'ree still waiting for the right (meaning one with deep pockets) ;-) to 
come along and give the buckets of money for a

piece 'o crap.  -

Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo)
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Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2006 12:46 PM
Subject: [MBZ] oh sweet mother of god, I have seen it all now



http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1979-Mercedes-450-SEL-6-9L-Automatic-Rare-TWIN-TURBO_W0QQitemZ4642531183QQcategoryZ6331QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
--
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 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL,
 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D,
 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.striplin.net

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Re: [MBZ] Hey Vatos!

[Mitch Haley]

Bob Rentfro wrote:
> 
> http://phoenix.craigslist.org/car/162838988.html

Not a bad looking car, except for the wheels.

Re: [MBZ] Shutoff Valve for 602

[John Peterson / ImmersionStudio LLC]

Thanks all for the help.  I'm under the hood now playing detective.

John

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Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2006 12:53 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Shutoff Valve for 602


It's on the rear of the IP, brown with blue stripe vac line.

Yes, use the MitiVac -- must hold vac indefinitely when applied, and it 
should shut the car off in a pump or two.  Watch for slow leakdown -- 
they get pinholes and you will shortly go from slow to no shutoff.

Check the line for oil -- if there is any, you will have to flush the 
line and column switch, else the rubber rots badly and you will be 
doing another repair.

Those plastic lines are brittle by now, so be careful -- I've had to 
splice quite a few, in particular the supply line for the shutoff 
(brown plastic).  That one in particular is long and subject to 
vibration (assuming similar routing on a 602 -- up around under the 
tranny vac control blue thing and around).

Check all the rubber connectors on the hard plastic lines, they are 
likely either soft and porous or hard and shrunk, and hence leaking by 
now.  Cures all sorts of ills, such as ACC problems, slow shutoff, hard 
shifts, etc.

Peter


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Re: [MBZ] Best Early 90's Choice

[Dwight E. Giles, Jr]

My 90 300D averages  31mpg -that's a 150 mile RT commute with highway,
sitting in traffic and 15 miles of local streets and roads. I am afraid
I am still recovering from 240D slug syndrome. I find myself using the
turbo a lot more than I probably should on the 300D 2.5t.
Dwight.

Dwight Giles, Jr
1979 240D auto, 250K + miles
1990 300D 2.5t, 130K miles
Wickford, RI



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Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2006 12:52 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Best Early 90's Choice


The '90 300D is getting around thirty in my daily commute and thirty
five on the trip we took to Albuquerque in March. Don't have exact
figures because I haven't fixed the odometer that broke 50 miles out of
Wichita. The figure form the trip is based on map miles, and discounts
the loval driving in Albuquerque.

O
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Re: [MBZ] I was interested when it was at $500, but now people are going ape crazy over it

[ernest breakfield]

$500 is OK, but $781 is "ape crazy"?


"Kaleb C. Striplin" wrote:
> 
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4642446964&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1
> --
> Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
>   91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL,
>   85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D,
>   76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250
> http://www.striplin.net
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Re: [MBZ] more on the 2.5 turbo

[Peter Frederick]

Broken ball pin in #1 will do strange things for running, pull the 
injector and check to see if it's in place.  Poopy injector shouldn't 
cause fuel dilution of the amount you describe, more like a couple 
precent, as it evaporates to a large extent.


Peter

Re: [MBZ] oh sweet mother of god, I have seen it all now

[Rick Knoble]

It's close enough I could take a look if you want.
bwahahahahahahaha
Rick Knoble
'85 300 CD
'87 190 DT
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Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2006 11:46 AM
Subject: [MBZ] oh sweet mother of god, I have seen it all now



http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1979-Mercedes-450-SEL-6-9L-Automatic-Rare-TWIN-TURBO_W0QQitemZ4642531183QQcategoryZ6331QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
--
Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL,
 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D,
 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.striplin.net

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Re: [MBZ] Shutoff Valve for 602

[Peter Frederick]

It's on the rear of the IP, brown with blue stripe vac line.

Yes, use the MitiVac -- must hold vac indefinitely when applied, and it 
should shut the car off in a pump or two.  Watch for slow leakdown -- 
they get pinholes and you will shortly go from slow to no shutoff.


Check the line for oil -- if there is any, you will have to flush the 
line and column switch, else the rubber rots badly and you will be 
doing another repair.


Those plastic lines are brittle by now, so be careful -- I've had to 
splice quite a few, in particular the supply line for the shutoff 
(brown plastic).  That one in particular is long and subject to 
vibration (assuming similar routing on a 602 -- up around under the 
tranny vac control blue thing and around).


Check all the rubber connectors on the hard plastic lines, they are 
likely either soft and porous or hard and shrunk, and hence leaking by 
now.  Cures all sorts of ills, such as ACC problems, slow shutoff, hard 
shifts, etc.


Peter

Re: [MBZ] oh sweet mother of god, I have seen it all now

[Bob Rentfro]

I believe there is a law against that in 28 states, and Germany.

Bob Rentfro


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Subject: [MBZ] oh sweet mother of god, I have seen it all now



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--
Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL,
 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D,
 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.striplin.net

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Re: [MBZ] Best Early 90's Choice

[OK Don]

The '90 300D is getting around thirty in my daily commute and thirty
five on the trip we took to Albuquerque in March.
Don't have exact figures because I haven't fixed the odometer that
broke 50 miles out of Wichita. The figure form the trip is based on
map miles, and discounts the loval driving in Albuquerque.

On 5/21/06, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

So what kind of mileage are you getting with it?



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Norman, OK
"The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've
exhausted all the alternatives."
Sir Winston Churchill
'90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager

[MBZ] oh sweet mother of god, I have seen it all now

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

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--
Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL,
 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D,
 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.striplin.net

Re: [MBZ] POST; 83 300D vibration problem

[Peter Frederick]

If the floor pan vibrates most strongly at the center bearing mount 
(rear of driver's seat), it's the joint. Sounds a lot like a bad 
muffler.


 It can only be replaced by someone with the proper tooling ($600 or 
so, but you get a nice greaseable joint).  Best bet is a replacement 
shaft, any breaker yard can sell you one, usually in the $100 range.  
(German Potomac, European Connection in Falmouth, KY, etc).


A new tranny mount is cheap, and if your's is oily, probably too soft 
anyway.


Peter

Re: [MBZ] I was interested when it was at $500, but now people are going ape crazy over it

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

I does have a little rust in the trunk, so its leaking.  Its nice but I 
am suspicious.


Sunil Hari wrote:


god, that's a gorgeous car.  looks like it just rolled off the line.  pity
about the engine, but i'd buy it just for the no-rust condition.

On 5/21/06, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4642446964&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1
--
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 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL,
 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D,
 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.striplin.net

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 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D,
 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.striplin.net

Re: [MBZ] more on the 2.5 turbo

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

I just use #2

John Berryman wrote:


On May 21, 2006, at 12:07 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:


I will just pull them all out and test them on the pop tester.  The  
way
the PO told it, he took it somewhere to have the glow plugs  
replaced and
it never ran right since, but got progressivly worse till it is at  
it is

now.  Rather than an all of the sudden type thing.



	If you're not just using #2 or kero, where are you getting the  
calibrating fluid from? I will need to re-up pretty soon.


Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am

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 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D,
 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.striplin.net

Re: [MBZ] Long Term Auto Storage was Re: '68 230S in local paper

[Bob Rentfro]

I think "keeping cars driveable" and "keeping cars in storage" are two 
different things. The only way to keep a car driveable, I believe, is to 
drive it.
My neighbor growing up had eight cars. He had one of those eight "in 
storage" ( he drove it to a Cord/Auborn show in Indiana once a year...I 
don't know what he did to make it "be is storage" however). The other seven 
he drove. You could tell what day it was by which car he was driving.


Bob Rentfro


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To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2006 9:16 AM
Subject: [MBZ] Long Term Auto Storage was Re: '68 230S in local paper



Because garages kill cars.



What are the tricks to keeping cars drivable that will be stored for long
periods? If you look at many of our signature lines, most of us have more
cars than drivers, and that is just listing the MB's. Since my brother
passed away and I inherited his vehicles. I now own eight cars and three
motorcycles. Many are projects, but I still have several daily drivers. So
how 'bout it? How does one properly store an automobile?

Rick Knoble
'85 300 CD
'87 190 DT

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Re: [MBZ] I was interested when it was at $500, but now people are going ape crazy over it

[Sunil Hari]

god, that's a gorgeous car.  looks like it just rolled off the line.  pity
about the engine, but i'd buy it just for the no-rust condition.

On 5/21/06, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



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  91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL,
  85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D,
  76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] Long Term Auto Storage was Re: '68 230S in local paper

[John Berryman]

On May 21, 2006, at 12:16 PM, Rick Knoble wrote:


 So how 'bout it? How does one properly store an automobile?

Rick Knoble


	I store them on the roll. I try to run them all and drive them at  
least once a month. Parts cars with engines get started periodically  
and otherwise they just sit there and shed parts.


Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am

[MBZ] I was interested when it was at $500, but now people are going ape crazy over it

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4642446964&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1
--
Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL,
 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D,
 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.striplin.net

Re: [MBZ] more on the 2.5 turbo

[John Berryman]

On May 21, 2006, at 12:07 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

I will just pull them all out and test them on the pop tester.  The  
way
the PO told it, he took it somewhere to have the glow plugs  
replaced and
it never ran right since, but got progressivly worse till it is at  
it is

now.  Rather than an all of the sudden type thing.


	If you're not just using #2 or kero, where are you getting the  
calibrating fluid from? I will need to re-up pretty soon.


Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am

[MBZ] Long Term Auto Storage was Re: '68 230S in local paper

[Rick Knoble]

Because garages kill cars.



What are the tricks to keeping cars drivable that will be stored for long 
periods? If you look at many of our signature lines, most of us have more 
cars than drivers, and that is just listing the MB's. Since my brother 
passed away and I inherited his vehicles. I now own eight cars and three 
motorcycles. Many are projects, but I still have several daily drivers. So 
how 'bout it? How does one properly store an automobile?


Rick Knoble
'85 300 CD
'87 190 DT 

Re: [MBZ] more on the 2.5 turbo

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

I will just pull them all out and test them on the pop tester.  The way 
the PO told it, he took it somewhere to have the glow plugs replaced and 
it never ran right since, but got progressivly worse till it is at it is 
now.  Rather than an all of the sudden type thing.


John Berryman wrote:


On May 21, 2006, at 10:56 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:



If the fuel supply pump was bad wouldn it cause starting problems but
not missing problems?  This one is missing on #1, i would think if the
pump was bad, that wouldnt be the case.  If the IP has a problem  
however

internally and is leaking, well I could see that maybe.

Tom Hargrave wrote:





	Its real possible that you have an injector leaking. The miss would  
definitely be more pronounced when warm. Unburned fuel can find its  
way to the sump.
	 It is also possible that the PO tried to "clean" the crankcase by  
adding kerosene to the oil. You must have a spare injector you can  
swap into #1 to test this theory.


Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am

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 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D,
 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] more on the 2.5 turbo

[John Berryman]

On May 21, 2006, at 10:56 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:


If the fuel supply pump was bad wouldn it cause starting problems but
not missing problems?  This one is missing on #1, i would think if the
pump was bad, that wouldnt be the case.  If the IP has a problem  
however

internally and is leaking, well I could see that maybe.

Tom Hargrave wrote:




	Its real possible that you have an injector leaking. The miss would  
definitely be more pronounced when warm. Unburned fuel can find its  
way to the sump.
	 It is also possible that the PO tried to "clean" the crankcase by  
adding kerosene to the oil. You must have a spare injector you can  
swap into #1 to test this theory.


Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am

Re: [MBZ] Tire Purchase DIY

[John Berryman]

On May 21, 2006, at 10:34 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:


I bought a set of kumhos from tire rack to install on my 85 300D, have
not done it yet.  Everyone here says they are great.



	Yesterday I had the Falken Ziex ZE512 185-65R15 88H-speed rated  
tires mounted and balanced at our local Sunoco station. I was going  
to get them mounted at Wally-World but my buddy, the gas station  
owner, had the time and an empty lift. Wal-Mart was going to charge  
$3.75 ea dismount, $3.75 ea to mount, $7.50 ea for balancing and  
$4.00 ea for disposal ($81.32 for all 4).
	I could have just done the work myself for free at Sunoco but I  
opted to have them do it for $60.00, no tax and I dropped the worn  
out tires at the town dump, which usually charges $2.00/tire, for  
free because they love me.
	I chose the Falkens after doing some research and upon road-testing  
in torrential rain, I am very satisfied with their wet road-holding.  
I also had the opportunity to put them through their paces on dry  
twisties and I am impressed with the dry handling too. I ran the car  
to about 110mph and the balance was perfect, not even a hint of  
vibration at any speed.
	New tires almost always feel great, when compared to the worn-out  
tires that come off. I'll report my driving impression after 10,000mi  
or so, to be fair.
	FWIW, these Falken Ziex ZE512s are made in Japan and although they  
are shown on   www.tiresavings.com   for $48.00ea I was only charged  
$43.00ea, shipping was $35.36. It seems they knocked off $5.00/tire  
because I bought 4 of them. All told, I paid $267.36


Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am

Re: [MBZ] more on the 2.5 turbo

[Bob DuPuy]

I'm pretty sure the MB lift pump is a piston type with no diaphram. I
vote you do the delivery valve reseal thing, change the oil, take two
asprin and call Marshall in the morning.

Bob DuPuy
Parrish, FL

On 5/21/06, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

If the fuel supply pump was bad wouldn it cause starting problems but
not missing problems?  This one is missing on #1, i would think if the
pump was bad, that wouldnt be the case.  If the IP has a problem however
internally and is leaking, well I could see that maybe.

Tom Hargrave wrote:

> Kaleb,
>
> The only source for serious dilution is the IP. You may have an issue with
> the pump itself or more likely, the fuel pump that's bolted to the side of
> the IP has a cracked diaphragm.
>
>
> Thanks,
> Tom Hargrave
> 256-656-1924
> www.kegkits.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin
> Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2006 9:33 AM
> To: Banned List; Mercedes mailing list
> Subject: [MBZ] more on the 2.5 turbo
>
> I looked more close at the oil yesterday and it really seems MUCH thinner
> than it should be and it seems to have a diesel smell, but hard to tell.  I
> started it up again stone cold and it fires right up, and runs MUCH smoother
> than when warmed up.  Idles ok with just a little bit of a miss.  The oil
> pressure only goes up to about 2.5 though when stone cold, probably because
> the oil appears to be diluted with diesel.  I will probably change it and
> see what  happens.
> --
> Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
>   91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL,
>   85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D,
>   76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250
> http://www.striplin.net
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 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D,
 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] Shutoff Valve for 602

[John Berryman]

On May 21, 2006, at 9:02 AM, John Peterson / ImmersionStudio LLC wrote:

First symptom this morning with the 300D 2.5 is a slow shutdown,  
maybe 10

seconds.  I'm suspicious of the shutdown valve.  Where is it?


It's on the IP with a tan/blue stripe line going to it.


  Can I test
with MityVac?


	Yes, it should hold vacuum indefinitely and if running, the engine  
should shut-down as soon as vacuum is applied.




What do they cost?


	http://catalog.eautopartscatalog.com/buymb/022406/wizard.jsp? 
header=http://www.buymbparts.com/header.txt&footer=http:// 
www.buymbparts.com/ 
footer.txt&partner=buymb&clientid=buymbparts&baseurl=http:// 
www.buymbparts.com/ 
&cookieid=1T30NXHKE1T30NXM9Z&year=1991&make=MB&model=300- 
DT-003&category=All&part=Shut+Off+Valve






Thanks friends,

John Peterson


Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am

Re: [MBZ] more on the 2.5 turbo

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

If the fuel supply pump was bad wouldn it cause starting problems but 
not missing problems?  This one is missing on #1, i would think if the 
pump was bad, that wouldnt be the case.  If the IP has a problem however 
internally and is leaking, well I could see that maybe.


Tom Hargrave wrote:


Kaleb,

The only source for serious dilution is the IP. You may have an issue with
the pump itself or more likely, the fuel pump that's bolted to the side of
the IP has a cracked diaphragm.


Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
256-656-1924
www.kegkits.com

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On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin
Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2006 9:33 AM
To: Banned List; Mercedes mailing list
Subject: [MBZ] more on the 2.5 turbo

I looked more close at the oil yesterday and it really seems MUCH thinner
than it should be and it seems to have a diesel smell, but hard to tell.  I
started it up again stone cold and it fires right up, and runs MUCH smoother
than when warmed up.  Idles ok with just a little bit of a miss.  The oil
pressure only goes up to about 2.5 though when stone cold, probably because
the oil appears to be diluted with diesel.  I will probably change it and
see what  happens.
--
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  91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL,
  85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D,
  76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.striplin.net

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 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D,
 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] more on the 2.5 turbo

[Tom Hargrave]

Kaleb,

The only source for serious dilution is the IP. You may have an issue with
the pump itself or more likely, the fuel pump that's bolted to the side of
the IP has a cracked diaphragm.


Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
256-656-1924
www.kegkits.com

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On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin
Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2006 9:33 AM
To: Banned List; Mercedes mailing list
Subject: [MBZ] more on the 2.5 turbo

I looked more close at the oil yesterday and it really seems MUCH thinner
than it should be and it seems to have a diesel smell, but hard to tell.  I
started it up again stone cold and it fires right up, and runs MUCH smoother
than when warmed up.  Idles ok with just a little bit of a miss.  The oil
pressure only goes up to about 2.5 though when stone cold, probably because
the oil appears to be diluted with diesel.  I will probably change it and
see what  happens.
--
Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
  91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL,
  85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D,
  76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.striplin.net

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Re: [MBZ] need to get this

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

holy cow.  Wonder  how it works/how much energy it takes to extract the 
energy from the water.


Rick Knoble wrote:


If it is for real, he will probably have a fatal accident soon.
Rick Knoble 
'85 300 CD

'87 190 DT
- Original Message - 
From: "redghost" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Mercedes list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "John thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2006 10:06 PM
Subject: [MBZ] need to get this




http://www.abum.com/show/16926/water_power.html

weld and run your car on water
--
Clay
Seattle Bioburner

1972 220D - Gump
1995 E300D - Cleo
1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz


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 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D,
 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.striplin.net

Re: [MBZ] Tire Purchase DIY

[Mitch Haley]

I'm happy with the tires I got for my Taurus at WalMart last Christmas.
The cheapest tires in the store, they stick as well or better
than the Continentals I had, and go through 1" of water at
50mph with no trouble. Tire guy put the wheels on with quick
burps of a air gun, backed up by what was probably the weakest
torque stick in his kit. He then put the car on the ground,
and hit each nut twice with the torque wrench. Then he handed
the wrench to the service porter, and drove around the building.
When he got back, she went around the car with the torque wrench.

Two months later, I broke a spring and it poked a hole in
a sidewall. The replacement was free, but they charged me
89 cents to dispose of the ruined tire. 

I'm quite satisfied with Walmart tire service. OTOH, I
recently overheard a conversation in which it sounded like
they were insisting on overfilling a guy's Colorado in
an oil change. He was telling them what factory spec
was, they were saying it took at least a qt more to
hit the "full" mark. I should have told him to let them
overfill it, then check again after it sat overnight
and make them fix it if it read high in the morning. 

Mitch.

Re: [MBZ] Best Early 90's Choice

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

So what kind of mileage are you getting with it?

OK Don wrote:


What Casey said -- I did my research, and ended up having to decide
between the '87 and the '90-'93 124s. I decided that a little newer
(shark gills on one side) and better fuel economy out weighed the
performance of the '87. Within  two weeks of deciding what I would
look for, Snook put his up for sale and I bought it.

On 5/20/06, Zeitgeist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


'90-'93 300D 2.5  Good luck finding one, though.  A '95 E300D would be
another nice choice, if you can do without a turbo--I can't.






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 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL,
 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D,
 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.striplin.net

Re: [MBZ] Tire Purchase DIY

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

I bought a set of kumhos from tire rack to install on my 85 300D, have 
not done it yet.  Everyone here says they are great.


Tony Wirtel wrote:


yea, sears is another one that has different spec tires than a dealer,
in fact, they will have the sears logo on them.





---

I've liked Kumho tires for  some time.   Went to Sears to replace a set on
my wifes Passat and guess what- the tire that is dressed to look/sound like
their current 60k mile tire is actually only the new tread pattern onto an
old carcass, is good for only 40k miles and (drum roll please) is made
especially for Sears in China.  Same price- no thanks.   Didn't see the
Sears name on it though.

Now, all of my Kumhos (20 so far) as well as the 2 just bought from Tire
Rack instead of Sears have been made in Korea.  Makes a difference to me.

If only I could mount the things myself.  Local shop "forgot" that I wanted
to torque the rims myself; caught after the first tire was done.  Somehow an
80# torque stick managed to apply at least 140# of torque.  Neither the tech
or writer appeared to know what a torque wrench was.

Tony Wirtel
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 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D,
 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.striplin.net

[MBZ] more on the 2.5 turbo

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

I looked more close at the oil yesterday and it really seems MUCH 
thinner than it should be and it seems to have a diesel smell, but hard 
to tell.  I started it up again stone cold and it fires right up, and 
runs MUCH smoother than when warmed up.  Idles ok with just a little bit 
of a miss.  The oil pressure only goes up to about 2.5 though when stone 
cold, probably because the oil appears to be diluted with diesel.  I 
will probably change it and see what  happens.

--
Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL,
 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D,
 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.striplin.net

Re: [MBZ] need to get this

[Lee Einer]

Sunil Hari wrote:
> In the video he used the word "electrolysis" - this means that this is a
> zero-sum game, thermodynamically.  But it's a clever way to get your car to
> run on 120V without batteries.
> 
Thermodynamically, this would be worse than a zero sum, as their would
inevitably be somewhat more electricity consumed in the electrolysis
than would be produced by recombining the H2 and the O2. No process is
100% efficient.
Lee

Re: [MBZ] need to get this

[Sunil Hari]

In the video he used the word "electrolysis" - this means that this is a
zero-sum game, thermodynamically.  But it's a clever way to get your car to
run on 120V without batteries.

On 5/21/06, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



> I can tell you that anything that claims to produce energy
> by burning water somehow is a scam.

Burning won't work, but if you can actually destroy matter,
4 ounces would take you a long way. Maybe he has perfected
a small scale fusion reactor? Not likely, of course.
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Re: [MBZ] Shutoff Valve for 602

[Jim Cathey]

First symptom this morning with the 300D 2.5 is a slow shutdown, maybe 
10
seconds.  I'm suspicious of the shutdown valve.  Where is it?  Can I 
test

with MityVac?  What do they cost?


It's almost always something else, especially if it came on suddenly.
Been poking around under the hood?  Look for a dislodged vacuum line
elsewhere.

-- Jim

[MBZ] Shutoff Valve for 602

[John Peterson / ImmersionStudio LLC]

First symptom this morning with the 300D 2.5 is a slow shutdown, maybe 10
seconds.  I'm suspicious of the shutdown valve.  Where is it?  Can I test
with MityVac?  What do they cost?

Thanks friends,

John Peterson
1991 300D 2.5 79k


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Subject: Re: [MBZ] POST; 83 300D vibration problem


> 83 300D had bad vibration...

You need to characterize the vibration for us.  Circumstances,
frequency, etc.  Once you've felt/heard them all, it's fairly
easy to tell wheel and axle problems from driveline problems,
largely because the frequency is some 3x for the driveline
due to the differential's gear ratio.  Also, does swerving
or turning affect it?

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] POST; 83 300D vibration problem

[Jim Cathey]

83 300D had bad vibration...


You need to characterize the vibration for us.  Circumstances,
frequency, etc.  Once you've felt/heard them all, it's fairly
easy to tell wheel and axle problems from driveline problems,
largely because the frequency is some 3x for the driveline
due to the differential's gear ratio.  Also, does swerving
or turning affect it?

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Serious wheels

[Mitch Haley]

Most people don't remember the Cheetah:

http://www.cheetahracecars.net/photos.htm

When I did a google search to find that, I found out that there are at least 
two companies allegedly making Cheetah replicars, I didn't know any such thing 
existed. (buyer beware on kit cars, nobody likes to pay thousands for vaporware 
or outright junk)

Or Milt Brown's Apollo GT: (Thorndyke, the bad guy in The Love Bug, was an 
Apollo dealer)

The Apollo 3500GT was powered by the aluminum 215 Buick, there was also a small 
block Chevy version, the 5000GT which was faster but a bit nose-heavy. 

http://www.intermeccanica.org/vehicles/apollo/apollo.htm

Milt Brown also made a classic kit car in the 1980s called the Apollo Verona, 
looks like the car that should have replaced the MG TF instead of the MGA. 

Re: [MBZ] Serious wheels

[Mitch Haley]

Most people don't remember the Cheetah:

http://www.cheetahracecars.net/photos.htm

When I did a google search to find that, I found out that there are at least 
two companies allegedly making Cheetah replicars, I didn't know any such thing 
existed. (buyer beware on kit cars, nobody likes to pay thousands for vaporware 
or outright junk)

Or Milt Brown's Apollo GT: (Thorndyke, the bad guy in The Love Bug, was an 
Apollo dealer)

The Apollo 3500GT was powered by the aluminum 215 Buick, there was also a small 
block Chevy version, the 5000GT which was faster but a bit nose-heavy. 

http://www.intermeccanica.org/vehicles/apollo/apollo.htm

Milt Brown also made a classic kit car in the 1980s called the Apollo Verona, 
looks like the car that should have replaced the MG TF instead of the MGA. 

Re: [MBZ] need to get this

[Mitch Haley]

> I can tell you that anything that claims to produce energy 
> by burning water somehow is a scam.

Burning won't work, but if you can actually destroy matter, 
4 ounces would take you a long way. Maybe he has perfected
a small scale fusion reactor? Not likely, of course. 

[MBZ] POST; 83 300D vibration problem

[Stephen D Murrell]

question about my new (used) 83 300D DIESEL M.B.;(189,000) miles  had bad
vibration; installed  repaired rear c.v. joint axle on left
side;($129.00)  right side was changed by Merc. Benz. dealer, about
49,000 miles ago, so didn't change
still vibrates; noticed tire( on same side)  was REALLY STEPPED, so put
NEW never been on ground) spare tire on it, still vibrates, tho not as
bad

removed drive shaft & replaced rubber mount(rubber mount was cracked,
bearing ok)  & bearing; Noticed when "U" joint straight, has flat spot
both sides, but when bent slightly, seem like can't feel any extra play
in it?; but joint runs mostly about straight;in car?, or does it?;  rear
trans. mount covered with oil, but not broken;   MOTOR mounts might be
bad though?; i need to check wheel bearings real close;  SO any advise or
help on this problem is appreciated;
 
ALSO; best place to buy a good or rebuilt drive shaft, with good or new
u-joint? & cost??
 
THANKS in ADVANCE, Steve[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   

Re: [MBZ] need to get this

[David Brodbeck]

Rick Knoble wrote:

If it is for real, he will probably have a fatal accident soon.

  

http://www.abum.com/show/16926/water_power.html

weld and run your car on water
--
Clay
Seattle Bioburner



I can't get the video to play, so I don't know exactly what's being 
pitched, but I can tell you that anything that claims to produce energy 
by burning water somehow is a scam.  Think of water as pre-burned 
hydrogen. It has no energy value.  Yes, you can electrolyse it into 
oxygen and hydrogen, which you can burn, but since the start and end 
products are both water there can be no net energy gain.

Re: [MBZ] Hey Vatos!

[Chuck Landenberger]

Bob,

You got a "keeper" and I don't mean your Benz..

Congrats to you both

Take care,

Chuck
On May 20, 2006, at 9:17 PM, Bob Rentfro wrote:

You know...it's kind of funny...she thinks we're all nuts because  
of "how we
are" with our MBs, but when she sees something like that she says  
something
like, "That's just wrong. Why would someone do that to a perfectly  
nice

Mercedes?"

If I did get that for her she'd probably get it nicked the first  
day from

her work parking lot down in the barrio.

Bob Rentfro


- Original Message -
From: "Chuck Landenberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2006 9:07 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hey Vatos!



Hey Bob.

I had a thought that maybe your wife might like this color and want
the garage painted to match...  No worry about biodegradable
wiring harnesses..

I knowThat's bad!.  Now hiding in the closet
waiting for your flames...

Take care and my excuse is that I was in the Arizona sun too much
today!!!

Chuck
Phoenix AZ
On May 20, 2006, at 6:18 PM, Ed Booher wrote:

I'm absolutely in love with that color!  (Now lets see how many  
people

follow the link to see what color I'm talking about)



On 5/20/06, Bob Rentfro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

http://phoenix.craigslist.org/car/162838988.html


It better have a trunk full of hydraulics for hoppin', yo.

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Re: [MBZ] Hey Vatos!

[Bob Rentfro]

You know...it's kind of funny...she thinks we're all nuts because of "how we 
are" with our MBs, but when she sees something like that she says something 
like, "That's just wrong. Why would someone do that to a perfectly nice 
Mercedes?"


If I did get that for her she'd probably get it nicked the first day from 
her work parking lot down in the barrio.


Bob Rentfro


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From: "Chuck Landenberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2006 9:07 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hey Vatos!



Hey Bob.

I had a thought that maybe your wife might like this color and want
the garage painted to match...  No worry about biodegradable
wiring harnesses..

I knowThat's bad!.  Now hiding in the closet
waiting for your flames...

Take care and my excuse is that I was in the Arizona sun too much
today!!!

Chuck
Phoenix AZ
On May 20, 2006, at 6:18 PM, Ed Booher wrote:


I'm absolutely in love with that color!  (Now lets see how many people
follow the link to see what color I'm talking about)



On 5/20/06, Bob Rentfro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

http://phoenix.craigslist.org/car/162838988.html


It better have a trunk full of hydraulics for hoppin', yo.

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Re: [MBZ] Best Early 90's Choice

[kevin kraly]

Sunil Hari wrote:
I'm pretty sure that as soon as I sell it I'll start
missing having a Benz and start the search for my next one.

That's just the way it goes, welcome to the club/sickness/habbit !

Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon
1981 300CD 204K miles, Giesela with non-working glow plugs (I'm sure that 
the LOADS of starting fluid poured in there by the PO had something to do 
with this) 

Re: [MBZ] Hey Vatos!

[Chuck Landenberger]

Hey Bob.

I had a thought that maybe your wife might like this color and want  
the garage painted to match...  No worry about biodegradable  
wiring harnesses..


I knowThat's bad!.  Now hiding in the closet  
waiting for your flames...


Take care and my excuse is that I was in the Arizona sun too much  
today!!!


Chuck
Phoenix AZ
On May 20, 2006, at 6:18 PM, Ed Booher wrote:


I'm absolutely in love with that color!  (Now lets see how many people
follow the link to see what color I'm talking about)



On 5/20/06, Bob Rentfro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

http://phoenix.craigslist.org/car/162838988.html


It better have a trunk full of hydraulics for hoppin', yo.

Bob Rentfro

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Re: [MBZ] need to get this

[Hendrik Riessen]

Does your Mum know you look at sites like that?
Yeah, Yeah, I know you are only looking for info about cars and such.

Hendrik
who used to buy Playboy for the well written and insightful articles

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Subject: [MBZ] need to get this



http://www.abum.com/show/16926/water_power.html

weld and run your car on water
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1995 E300D - Cleo
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Re: [MBZ] need to get this

[Rick Knoble]

If it is for real, he will probably have a fatal accident soon.
Rick Knoble 
'85 300 CD

'87 190 DT
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http://www.abum.com/show/16926/water_power.html

weld and run your car on water
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1972 220D - Gump
1995 E300D - Cleo
1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
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[MBZ] need to get this

[redghost]

http://www.abum.com/show/16926/water_power.html

weld and run your car on water
--
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Seattle Bioburner

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1995 E300D - Cleo
1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz

Re: [MBZ] Serious wheels

[OK Don]

You're really close to my choices --
Mid design would just be the C111 and the GT40, and front engine would
be XKE and Ferrrari 275GBT4.  All would have a Finnish 606 screaming
and blowing smoke!



If I had infinite time and a good shop to work in, I'd like to make a mid
engine car, stuff some sort of FWD drivetrain in back (VW TDI?).
My short list of designs to copy is C111, GT40, and Miura. I think those
are three of the most beautiful cars ever. For front engine, I like
XKE, Cheetah, Apollo, and Ferrari Daytona. Interesting that all
are at least 35 years old and I'm only 42.

Mitch.


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Re: [MBZ] Tire Purchase DIY

[OK Don]

Which is why I only take the wheels and tires to the tire shop. They
don't have an opportunity to make a mistake, and I don't have anyone
else to blame.


If only I could mount the things myself.  Local shop "forgot" that I wanted
to torque the rims myself; caught after the first tire was done.  Somehow an
80# torque stick managed to apply at least 140# of torque.  Neither the tech
or writer appeared to know what a torque wrench was.

Tony Wirtel




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Re: [MBZ] Best Early 90's Choice

[OK Don]

What Casey said -- I did my research, and ended up having to decide
between the '87 and the '90-'93 124s. I decided that a little newer
(shark gills on one side) and better fuel economy out weighed the
performance of the '87. Within  two weeks of deciding what I would
look for, Snook put his up for sale and I bought it.

On 5/20/06, Zeitgeist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

'90-'93 300D 2.5  Good luck finding one, though.  A '95 E300D would be
another nice choice, if you can do without a turbo--I can't.



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Re: [MBZ] Hey Vatos!

[OK Don]

Someone needs to seek proffessional help! That's just sick.

On 5/20/06, dave walton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I could have died a happy man and never seen a picture of that car.
That is what happens when cousins marry.

-Dave Walton



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Re: [MBZ] Serious wheels

[Mitch Haley]

Craig McCluskey wrote:
> My choice would be
> 
> http://www.seriouswheels.com/1970-1979/1972-Lamborghini-Miura-SV-Red-SA.htm

If I had infinite time and a good shop to work in, I'd like to make a mid
engine car, stuff some sort of FWD drivetrain in back (VW TDI?). 
My short list of designs to copy is C111, GT40, and Miura. I think those
are three of the most beautiful cars ever. For front engine, I like
XKE, Cheetah, Apollo, and Ferrari Daytona. Interesting that all
are at least 35 years old and I'm only 42.

Mitch.

Re: [MBZ] Best Early 90's Choice

[Christopher McCann]

"'95 is normally aspirated with Porche designed intake runners. Great 
fuel mileage, updated (modern) cosmetics."

Almost bought one of these in pristine condition. no turbo is slow. 
I regret NOT buying it.

Chris

 

Rick Knoble <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > All righty fellers remind me...best 
year for a 124 (diesel, of course).

IIRC,
'87 is the fastest, prone to head problems
'91-'93 are good solid cars, old style cosmetics, prone to belt tensioner 
problems, sunroofs are expensive to fix. No head or head gasket probs.
'95 is normally aspirated with Porche designed intake runners. Great fuel 
mileage, updated (modern) cosmetics.

All good cars, really.
Buyer guide link, by Dave M. and Marshall Booth ...
http://articles.mbz.org/buying/checklists/124/

Rick Knoble
'85 300 CD
'87 190 DT 

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> yea, sears is another one that has different spec tires than a dealer,
> in fact, they will have the sears logo on them.



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I've liked Kumho tires for  some time.   Went to Sears to replace a set on
my wifes Passat and guess what- the tire that is dressed to look/sound like
their current 60k mile tire is actually only the new tread pattern onto an
old carcass, is good for only 40k miles and (drum roll please) is made
especially for Sears in China.  Same price- no thanks.   Didn't see the
Sears name on it though.

Now, all of my Kumhos (20 so far) as well as the 2 just bought from Tire
Rack instead of Sears have been made in Korea.  Makes a difference to me.

If only I could mount the things myself.  Local shop "forgot" that I wanted
to torque the rims myself; caught after the first tire was done.  Somehow a=
n
80# torque stick managed to apply at least 140# of torque.  Neither the tec=
h
or writer appeared to know what a torque wrench was.

Tony Wirtel

Re: [MBZ] Hey Vatos!

[dave walton]

I could have died a happy man and never seen a picture of that car.
That is what happens when cousins marry.

-Dave Walton
94S350, 99E300

On 5/20/06, Bob Rentfro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


http://phoenix.craigslist.org/car/162838988.html


It better have a trunk full of hydraulics for hoppin', yo.

Bob Rentfro

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Re: [MBZ] Hey Vatos!

[Ed Booher]

I'm absolutely in love with that color!  (Now lets see how many people
follow the link to see what color I'm talking about)



On 5/20/06, Bob Rentfro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

http://phoenix.craigslist.org/car/162838988.html


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