Re: [MBZ] O.T. Blower Motor Relays

2006-06-18 Thread Bob Rentfro
If Mr. Jim's advice of whacking it doesn't work...I'l start proper troubleshooting. Thanks Bob Rentfro - Original Message - From: Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2006 1:08 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] O.T. Blower

[MBZ] value of a 1987 190D 2.5T

2006-06-18 Thread Sunil Hari
Given their rarity, how much are people actually paying for these cars? -- Sunil Hari 1992 300D 2.5T - 286Kmi. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474

Re: [MBZ] Kenmore auction

2006-06-18 Thread redghost
Was at the auction. Not allowed to bring anything home, on penalty of penile castigation. The pseudo ssk turns out to be ford, but later model mustang not pinto. Not a very bad job of building it, just a bit too fiberglass. There was a 77 450sl. I did not stay to watch how high the idiots

Re: [MBZ] value of a 1987 190D 2.5T

2006-06-18 Thread Mitch Haley
Sunil Hari wrote: Given their rarity, how much are people actually paying for these cars? I paid $275 for mine. Was probably within 10 miles of Sunil's house when I picked it up. (was within 2 miles of OU on a football saturday) The title said the seller paid $1000 for it before it was

Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke? Who needs them and why?

2006-06-18 Thread Mitch Haley
John Berryman wrote: I just gotta ask, What do you guys need these huge expensive trucks for? My buddy's 2001 F250 club cab has towed horses and forklifts all across the country, the back seat gets used mainly for storage. It's nice to have a place in the cab for an ice chest and a couple of

Re: [MBZ] Manufacture Date?

2006-06-18 Thread John Berryman
On Jun 18, 2006, at 3:08 AM, LarryT wrote: How do I know when it was produced ? There should be a metal tag on the B pillar (and maybe even a sticker on the door. It will have VIN, DOM etc. Vehicles produced from Sept on will be considered as the upcoming model year. So 9/91= 1992MY.

Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke?

2006-06-18 Thread Mike Canfield
Durajunk..If you want a truck in the shop all the time go ahead and buy one. I speak from experience, not mine personally but that of a close friend who is a GM diehard and has suffered through 4 of the junks. The GM diesel I refer to the powerchoke walking all over is the 6.5. I do have

Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke? Who needs them and why?

2006-06-18 Thread Mike Canfield
1968 Dodge M37 3/4 ton 4x4 Hauls scrap metal at least once a week just hauled 50 locust posts to a local winery today hauled out 2 loads of firewood to season for winter last weekend burns junk gas from scrap cars Top that for a daily driverLOLOL Mike - Original Message -

[MBZ] A hole in there...

2006-06-18 Thread ned kleinhenz
Finally got the engine pulled out of my '95 E300D. Found quite a collection of vacuum pump bearings and debis in the oil pan. But with the eigine hanging on a hook, something I'd never notices before became apparent. There is a big trapazoidal shaped hole in the front vertical surface of the

Re: [MBZ] No speedo - 1990 300TE

2006-06-18 Thread John Berryman
On Jun 17, 2006, at 3:53 PM, Peter Frederick wrote: If not, probably the head. If it does, definitely the cable. Or in rare instances, the gear in the tranny. Or the bolt backed out and spit the cable. Luckily it's all simple to diagnose. Was your speedo bouncing, especially at lower

Re: [MBZ] A hole in there...

2006-06-18 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sat, 17 Jun 2006 22:57:13 -0400 ned kleinhenz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Through the hole you can see the fly wheel, ring gear and bolts that presumably go to the torque converter. Is this hole supposed to be open? Or should it have a rubber plug or some thing in it? There are no bolt holes

Re: [MBZ] 240D Turbo

2006-06-18 Thread John Berryman
On Jun 17, 2006, at 4:08 PM, John Ingram wrote: I think if I get my 240D going again I might just leave it alone, but, it is a tempting idea. John Ingram It would be easier and probably cheaper to sell the 240D and buy a 300D Turbodiesel. Or just buy the 300D and start a fleet. Johnny

Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke? Who needs them and why?

2006-06-18 Thread John Berryman
On Jun 17, 2006, at 8:48 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: John Berryman wrote: I just gotta ask, What do you guys need these huge expensive trucks for? My buddy's 2001 F250 club cab has towed horses and forklifts all across the country, the back seat gets used mainly for storage. It's nice to

Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke? Who needs them and why?

2006-06-18 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Well I need my truck for long distance car hauling. I think its insane to spend that much on a used truck, much less 40k or more for a new one. For the price of an 04 like I am looking at you can buy a hell of a nice s-class, or would be cheaper to buy a nice 99 E300 John Berryman wrote: I

Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke? Who needs them and why?

2006-06-18 Thread John Berryman
On Jun 17, 2006, at 10:21 PM, Mike Canfield wrote: 1968 Dodge M37 3/4 ton 4x4 Hauls scrap metal at least once a week just hauled 50 locust posts to a local winery today hauled out 2 loads of firewood to season for winter last weekend burns junk gas from scrap cars Top that for a daily

Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke?

2006-06-18 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
A powerstroke make walk all over the 6.5, but the 6.5 is MUCH cheaper and easier to work on. Has plenty of power for my needs Mike Canfield wrote: Durajunk..If you want a truck in the shop all the time go ahead and buy one. I speak from experience, not mine personally but that of a close

Re: [MBZ] A hole in there...

2006-06-18 Thread John Berryman
On Jun 17, 2006, at 10:57 PM, ned kleinhenz wrote: Finally got the engine pulled out of my '95 E300D. Found quite a collection of vacuum pump bearings and debis in the oil pan. But with the eigine hanging on a hook, something I'd never notices before became apparent. There is a big

Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke? Who needs them and why?

2006-06-18 Thread Robert Tara Ludwick
I picked up my 92 f350 diesel crew cab for hauling a 5th wheel camper and for gathering and hauling barrels of waste veg oil. I needed the crew cab with three young'uns. http://photos.thedieselstop.com/showphoto.php?photo=29666 I do enjoy the flatbed, makes loading and unloading things a lot

Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke? Who needs them and why?

2006-06-18 Thread John Berryman
On Jun 17, 2006, at 11:39 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Well I need my truck for long distance car hauling. I think its insane to spend that much on a used truck, much less 40k or more for a new one. For the price of an 04 like I am looking at you can buy a hell of a nice s-class, or

Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke? Who needs them and why?

2006-06-18 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
yep. The only reason I was really looking was for the extended cab to get more people in if needed. I will be sticking with my 95 and my diesel burb John Berryman wrote: On Jun 17, 2006, at 11:39 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Well I need my truck for long distance car hauling. I think its

Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke? Who needs them and why?

2006-06-18 Thread John Berryman
On Jun 17, 2006, at 11:46 PM, Robert Tara Ludwick wrote: there's no way I'd even consider dropping 30 grand on a pickup truck, you could buy a used semi with a small engine and convert it to an rv for a whole lot less money and get better fuel milage ) --Robert It just baffles me

Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke? Who needs them and why?

2006-06-18 Thread John Berryman
On Jun 17, 2006, at 11:55 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: yep. The only reason I was really looking was for the extended cab to get more people in if needed. I will be sticking with my 95 and my diesel burb Dayum, you are smarter than you look!! With the burb, there's plenty of seating

Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke? Who needs them and why?

2006-06-18 Thread Luther Gulseth
fuel/gas prices aren't high enough yet. Every day I see someone in a parking lot with their 6,000+ lb suv/pickup idling while they go inside for 5, 10 mins or so. Then there's also the people who sit in the parking lot at work during their lunch hour with the engine running. Sheesh, when

Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke? Who needs them and why?

2006-06-18 Thread Luther Gulseth
That's not much of a compliment, considering how he looks. On Sat, 17 Jun 2006 23:08:43 -0500, John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 17, 2006, at 11:55 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: yep. The only reason I was really looking was for the extended cab to get more people in

Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke? Who needs them and why?

2006-06-18 Thread Bob Rentfro
I work with men who have too much money. Nearly all of them either have new GMC Dura Max quad cab 4X4 short bed loaded with the fancy schmancy spray in bedliner or new Dodge 3/4 ton max cab long bed 4X4 loaded. Several more dudes have new Powerchokes 4X4 in which they tried to hop it up with

Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke? Who needs them and why?

2006-06-18 Thread David Brodbeck
John Berryman wrote: It just baffles me how many people shell-out the big bucks and launch their boat 3 times a year and then just drive it to work every day. Same folks are pissin' and moanin' about fuel prices. Makes no cents to me. In rural areas I've lived in, where

Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke? Who needs them and why?

2006-06-18 Thread kevin kraly
Our Dodge Ram 2500 Cummins diesel 6spd quadcab pickup pulls our 8000# travel trailer and our 19' boat. It also hauls gear around to our dragon boat races all around the Northwest. It's hauled home exercise equipment, bikes, furniture, a freezer, nothing a smaller truck couldn't do, but it's

Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke? Who needs them and why?

2006-06-18 Thread John Berryman
On Jun 18, 2006, at 12:37 AM, David Brodbeck wrote: In rural areas I've lived in, where parking ordinances weren't a problem, it was pretty common for people to have a rusty old truck for snow plowing and the occasional hauling or boat launching job. If it was a *really* rural area the truck

Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke? Who needs them and why?

2006-06-18 Thread kevin kraly
HHR? Yeah, it's that little Chevy car that's designed after a 1949 Suburban. It's competition is the PT Cruiser, but I think it's much better in every way, ride, power, quietness, fit and finish, and the design, IMO. Here's a link to some HHR info. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevrolet_HHR

Re: [MBZ] A hole in there...

2006-06-18 Thread Rick Knoble
There should be a plastic thingy in the hole. Good thing this isn't Banned... Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT

Re: [MBZ] value of a 1987 190D 2.5T

2006-06-18 Thread Rick Knoble
Given their rarity, how much are people actually paying for these cars? I paid five hundred for mine but it needs a head I think. More on that in a couple days, when I get down to brass tacks with this car. Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT

Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke? Who needs them and why?

2006-06-18 Thread Rick Knoble
I'd like to see a list of truck owners and how each uses it. I inherited an '83 S10 from my brother in March. I was gonna sell it, but then I need to haul some wood chips and compost so it looks like I will be keeping it. My kids also race bmx and it is really convenient jist to pitch

Re: [MBZ] No speedo - 1990 300TE

2006-06-18 Thread Wakin's
Thanks for the responses guys, I appreciate it. I asked the wife, and she said the speedo was definitely bouncing the last few times she drove it. I actually seem to remember it bouncing a bit myself the last time I drove it. Does that mean it is the cable, gears, or head? Thanks Dave Wakin

Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke? Who needs them and why?

2006-06-18 Thread Mitch Haley
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: yep. The only reason I was really looking was for the extended cab to get more people in if needed. I will be sticking with my 95 and my diesel burb I should have told you last month when a very unique vehicle was advertised in the 5k range. It was a 7.3 PS E350,

Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke? Who needs them and why?

2006-06-18 Thread Harry Watkins
Same thing here. I have a 1980 ford 150 that goes to the garbage dump two or three times a year. It has the 25 year old antique tag, the last one I'll ever have to buy for it. My 81 240D qualifies for the antique tag but my wife won't let me put one on because she likes to drive it and the tag

Re: [MBZ] A hole in there...

2006-06-18 Thread J.B. Hebert
I believe you need 102 014 00 33, Cover, Flywheel. I see it lists for $1.90. Check with your parts place, first, though. Another 606 vacuum pump failure... I feel your pain. Do you know how many miles this one had on it before it failed? Good luck. J.B. At 10:57 PM 6/17/2006, you wrote:

Re: [MBZ] Heavy weather in Okie-land and north

2006-06-18 Thread OK Don
Drove through a heck of a downpour in Omaha last night - On 6/16/06, Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just looked at the weather radar and noticed a large area of heavy rain marching across Oklahoma, Kansas, and Nebraska. You guys all right there? Craig

Re: [MBZ] Kenmore auction

2006-06-18 Thread OK Don
TOO much! What does a rolling t**d SL go for? -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've exhausted all the alternatives. Sir Winston Churchill '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager

[MBZ] 190Dt Price

2006-06-18 Thread Frederick Moir
Greetings and Salutations. Happy Fathers Day to all of you Dads (and potential Dads) out there. My 190Dt was purchased for $1000 on Cape Cod. 120k mi. wife of a diesel mechanic (hah!). Had been hit front and rear and sort of repaired, string hanging out of the grill, no shutoff (valve), holy

Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke?

2006-06-18 Thread Mike Canfield
Kaleb, 7.3 Powerstroke not 6.0. Very easy to work with. Quite comparable to the 6.5 in that aspect. The Chebbie is way cheaper though. Mike - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, June 17,

Re: [MBZ] Idle Speed 91 W124

2006-06-18 Thread LarryT
Thanks Marshall - I guess in the absence of the special electronic devices I will warm the engine to operating temp (~80C), turn on the ancilliary equipment - then adjust the idle to a smooth speed without going too high. I'm sure I can do this by ear without a problem -- Thanks

Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke? Who needs them and why?

2006-06-18 Thread Mike Canfield
NO DOUBT Met a lady at the local C-store one day just a ranting and raving about the price of gas as she filled up her Ford Excursion. Pointed out the fact that she paid 4 times as much per gallon for the bottle of spring water she had in her hand..She was STILL irate at the price of

[MBZ] OT - Audi powered by a V10 Diesel engine just won the Le Mans 24h !!

2006-06-18 Thread OK Don
Too cool! IIRC, last year they lost the tranny - too much torque. Must have figured out how to handle it. http://today.reuters.co.uk/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=motorSportsNewsstoryID=2006-06-18T152430Z_01_L18278722_RTRIDST_0_SPORT-MOTOR-RACING-LE-MANS-UPDATE-2-PICTURE.XML -- OK Don, KD5NRO

Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke? Who needs them and why?

2006-06-18 Thread Mike Canfield
OUCH!! That stinks. Mike - Original Message - From: Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2006 12:30 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke? Who needs them and why? I work with men who have too much money. Nearly all

Re: [MBZ] No speedo - 1990 300TE

2006-06-18 Thread John Berryman
On Jun 18, 2006, at 7:45 AM, Wakin's wrote: Thanks for the responses guys, I appreciate it. I asked the wife, and she said the speedo was definitely bouncing the last few times she drove it. I actually seem to remember it bouncing a bit myself the last time I drove it. Does that mean it

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 7, Issue 84

2006-06-18 Thread John Berryman
On Jun 18, 2006, at 9:57 AM, Dan Weeks wrote: My wife and I are 1/4 owners, along with four other couples, of a 1986 Chevy S-10 2.5 5 speed. Last year it cost my $54 plus whatever gas I burned to own. That seems like a good arrangement. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am

Re: [MBZ] No speedo - 1990 300TE

2006-06-18 Thread Peter Frederick
Cable -- it winds up and then over-spins when it gets weak, and then eventually twists off inside the housing. But check the speedo head anyway Peter

Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke? Who needs them and why?

2006-06-18 Thread John Berryman
On Jun 18, 2006, at 10:59 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Also thought about finding a mid 90's 3.4 ton 6.5 td with a 5 speed, that would probably get pretty decent mileage without the slushbox. Yeah, the stick has to help the mpgs a bit. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am

Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke? Who needs them and why?

2006-06-18 Thread Robert Tara Ludwick
Well, the burb probably dogs out due to the rear end ratio. The trick to compensate for that is to get one of those gear vendors over/underdrive units. you will get an extra overdrive for highway cruising and get even better fuel milage when not loaded down , but when towing you can

Re: [MBZ] 190Dt Price

2006-06-18 Thread John Berryman
On Jun 18, 2006, at 11:26 AM, Frederick Moir wrote: To quote those much smarter than me:- There ain't no such thang as a cheap Mercedes! BUT, I LOVE IT! Happy Day. Fred Moir I beg to differ. I once bought a 300CD for $1 from some wacky MB diesel addict and drove it over 35,000mi

Re: [MBZ] No speedo - 1990 300TE

2006-06-18 Thread Wakin's
Messed with the speedo this morning - My happy fathers day gift to myself looks to be a new speedo cable - it's snapped right where it goes to the tranny. Thanks to those who pointed me in the right direction. Is there a trick to installing the new one? Thanks Dave Wakin 1990 300TE -

Re: [MBZ] value of a 1987 190D 2.5T

2006-06-18 Thread Marshall Booth
Mitch Haley wrote: Sunil Hari wrote: Given their rarity, how much are people actually paying for these cars? I paid $275 for mine. Was probably within 10 miles of Sunil's house when I picked it up. (was within 2 miles of OU on a football saturday) The title said the seller paid $1000 for it

Re: [MBZ] No speedo - 1990 300TE

2006-06-18 Thread Wakin's
spot on - thanks! Dave W - Original Message - From: John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2006 12:33 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] No speedo - 1990 300TE On Jun 18, 2006, at 7:45 AM, Wakin's wrote: Thanks for the

Re: [MBZ] A hole in there...

2006-06-18 Thread ned kleinhenz
JB: This '95 E300D has 143k miles on the odo. I've owned it since 102K mi. and doubt that a PO replaced the vacuum pump. The disturbing aspect of this is the failed vac pump was the pierpoint type held together by cap screws. Those were not known to fail so early. The cam that drives the pump

Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke? Who needs them and why?

2006-06-18 Thread Kevin
On Sat, Jun 17, 2006 at 08:02:44PM -0400, John Berryman wrote: I just gotta ask, What do you guys need these huge expensive trucks for? I feel trucks were intended to be used for work. Trucks with back seats cost more to purchase and run, lengthen wheelbase resulting in lousy

Re: [MBZ] value of a 1987 190D 2.5T

2006-06-18 Thread Zeitgeist
I gather the W201 OM601/602 trannies are the weak link in these cars, so can the more robust trans from a 124/126 OM603 diesel be installed in its place? Don't the 124 OM602 cars also use the same weaker trans, as well? On 6/18/06, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Most of the ones I've

Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke? Who needs them and why?

2006-06-18 Thread Zeitgeist
Good questions. I generally despise pickup trucks, especially the kind that are all prissed up and prettified to the extent that they cease to maintain any utility whatsoever. I've always preferred vans to trucks; probably always will. My vans have hauled nearly everything everything I've ever

Re: [MBZ] value of a 1987 190D 2.5T

2006-06-18 Thread Marshall Booth
Zeitgeist wrote: I gather the W201 OM601/602 trannies are the weak link in these cars, so can the more robust trans from a 124/126 OM603 diesel be installed in its place? Don't the 124 OM602 cars also use the same weaker trans, as well? The transmissions aren't weak and it isn't engine torque

Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke? Who needs them and why?

2006-06-18 Thread kevin kraly
Two eagle wagons (unstoppable in snow), Yeah! We had a 1982 Eagle with the big 258 C.I 4.2L I6 with a 5spd behind it, and it was one of the best snow cars we've ever had! It was about 9 years ago, and we paid $2K for it. However, the main seal and clutch went out soon after purchase with

[MBZ] 1982 w126 300sd -- coolant temp sensor wiring

2006-06-18 Thread Steve MacSween
My coolant temp sensor (the one in the T-stat housing) isn't current hooked to anything, and there isn't an obvious orphan wire under the hood. Where should I be wiring it up to? Also, just to confirm, that IS the sensor that controls the auxiliary electric fan, correct? TKS -- Mac Steve

Re: [MBZ] A hole in there...

2006-06-18 Thread J.B. Hebert
You're preaching to the choir: the vacuum pump design on the 60x motors leaves a lot to be desired, especially in failure mode. My car required a new timer cam because it got chewed up when my pump failed. Interestingly enough, the new timer was made of a different material (same part

[MBZ] Carfax

2006-06-18 Thread Woodlandtaylors
Anybody out there with current account? VIN: WDBEB28D6NB715197 Vehicles on Ebay. Dennis T -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.0/368 - Release Date: 6/16/2006

Re: [MBZ] Atlanta 240D alignment?

2006-06-18 Thread John Ervine
Ben Karp wrote: I just made an appointment to have Jeff do my alignment tomorrow. $55 the hunter machine! Sounds like a winner. Wish me luck and thanks. Ben So how'd it go? -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 270+kmi 1980 300TD 180+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi 1977 280S 4-spd 81+kmi 1976 350SE 4-spd