Re: [MBZ] Uh oh - fuel leak
I've used them.And do use them still. But only in conjunction with good jackstands just in case the tin ramp were to buckle for who knows what reason. Mike - Original Message - From: David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 5:31 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Uh oh - fuel leak Curt Raymond wrote: Okay, I had to clean the vent on my 240D, where does the vent land on the 190D? This car is alot less fun to work on, I could pretty well crawl under my 240D while it was sitting on the ground... I'm thinking to get a set of those drive up ramps for stuff like this. Anybody use 'em? I own a set. I like them a lot. I use them whenever I'm doing an under-car job that doesn't require removing the wheels. Do make sure you chock the wheels that are on the ground well so the car can't roll off the ramps on you. Chock it against rolling in *either* direction. People have been hurt or killed when cars rolled off the end of ramps. I like to give the car a good shake once it's situated to make sure it's not precariously balanced somehow. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Will not start
Where do you live and what is the current temperature? My VW refused to start at work on Monday at lunchtime (first and only failure for that car). I had filled up with a 50/50 blend on Saturday and hadn't added any PowerService fuel conditioner. Fixed that quickly with a walk to the neighborhood auto parts store. Temp was -6F, which I am sure caused the problem. It is -4F right now and I just fired up the VW and went to the store. Love that PowerService stuff. On 2/3/07, Bruce Lulfs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All 3 of my diesels will not start. I used to get my fuel as a truck stop all the time but did not do so this year. I never had any trouble before. All turn over just fine but will not even try to start. I got fuel for all 3 at the same place I wonder if that could be the trouble? I never put anything in my fuel before and now I wonder what if anything would help now? Thanks for any help Bruce Sandy KB8DIL 1984 300D (The Beauty) 1985 300SD (The Beast) 1993 Dodge 1 ton 4x4 Dually diesel (TheBoss!) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- I'm a man but I can change if I have to ... I guess.
[MBZ] Cracked head?
I think the head finally let go on my 67 300D -- suddenly I'm adding coolant and I have a condensation trail on very cold mornings for a while. I do have some oil in the expansion tank, too -- will check for cold pressure tomorrow (this has not been a problem yet), but I suspect I'm going to have to look for a head. Sigh. Peter
Re: [MBZ] Will not start
I LIVE IN Toledo Ohio it is about 9f now. I will try some Power Service fuel conditioner like you did. I hope I can find it and that it will work for me to! Thanks Bruce Sandy KB8DIL 1984 300D (The Beauty) 1985 300SD (The Beast) 1993 Dodge 1 ton 4x4 Dually diesel (TheBoss!) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of LT Don Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 7:09 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Will not start Where do you live and what is the current temperature? My VW refused to start at work on Monday at lunchtime (first and only failure for that car). I had filled up with a 50/50 blend on Saturday and hadn't added any PowerService fuel conditioner. Fixed that quickly with a walk to the neighborhood auto parts store. Temp was -6F, which I am sure caused the problem. It is -4F right now and I just fired up the VW and went to the store. Love that PowerService stuff. On 2/3/07, Bruce Lulfs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All 3 of my diesels will not start. I used to get my fuel as a truck stop all the time but did not do so this year. I never had any trouble before. All turn over just fine but will not even try to start. I got fuel for all 3 at the same place I wonder if that could be the trouble? I never put anything in my fuel before and now I wonder what if anything would help now? Thanks for any help Bruce Sandy KB8DIL 1984 300D (The Beauty) 1985 300SD (The Beast) 1993 Dodge 1 ton 4x4 Dually diesel (TheBoss!) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- I'm a man but I can change if I have to ... I guess. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.411 / Virus Database: 268.17.21/665 - Release Date: 2/2/2007
Re: [MBZ] Will not start
WalMart carries it. Probably KMart and the local auto parts stores. It is in a white jug. I use it year round. On 2/3/07, Bruce Lulfs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I LIVE IN Toledo Ohio it is about 9f now. I will try some Power Service fuel conditioner like you did. I hope I can find it and that it will work for me to! Thanks Bruce Sandy KB8DIL 1984 300D (The Beauty) 1985 300SD (The Beast) 1993 Dodge 1 ton 4x4 Dually diesel (TheBoss!) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of LT Don Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 7:09 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Will not start Where do you live and what is the current temperature? My VW refused to start at work on Monday at lunchtime (first and only failure for that car). I had filled up with a 50/50 blend on Saturday and hadn't added any PowerService fuel conditioner. Fixed that quickly with a walk to the neighborhood auto parts store. Temp was -6F, which I am sure caused the problem. It is -4F right now and I just fired up the VW and went to the store. Love that PowerService stuff. On 2/3/07, Bruce Lulfs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All 3 of my diesels will not start. I used to get my fuel as a truck stop all the time but did not do so this year. I never had any trouble before. All turn over just fine but will not even try to start. I got fuel for all 3 at the same place I wonder if that could be the trouble? I never put anything in my fuel before and now I wonder what if anything would help now? Thanks for any help Bruce Sandy KB8DIL 1984 300D (The Beauty) 1985 300SD (The Beast) 1993 Dodge 1 ton 4x4 Dually diesel (TheBoss!) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- I'm a man but I can change if I have to ... I guess. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.411 / Virus Database: 268.17.21/665 - Release Date: 2/2/2007 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- I'm a man but I can change if I have to ... I guess.
Re: [MBZ] Will not start
Bruce Lulfs wrote: All 3 of my diesels will not start. I used to get my fuel as a truck stop all the time but did not do so this year. I never had any trouble before. All turn over just fine but will not even try to start. I got fuel for all 3 at the same place I wonder if that could be the trouble? I never put anything in my fuel before and now I wonder what if anything would help now? Thanks for any help Adding an anti-gel will do little or NOTHING until it can be circulated thru the fuel system. That takes at least 5-10 minutes of engine operation. If the fuel line or filter is occluded with ice (from water in the fuel) or waxed fuel, the engine won't start so the anti-gel can't circulate. Moving the car indoors or pouring hot water over the fuel filter will SOMETIMES help and so can directing a hair dryer at the filter. There hasn't been temps this low in western PA and Ohio in about 10 years. When it gets this cold I suggest buying premium winterized fuel (I've had really good experiences with BP/Amoco diesel) and add a shot of a brand name anti-gel to the tank when temps drop below zero. If the valves haven't been adjusted in the last 10-15kmi, that can prevent starting in cold weather too. Using Mobil 1 oil will lower cold start temps about 10 degree and the block heater will allow the engine to start at about any temp - UNLESS the fuel has waxed, there is water in the fuel or the valves are tight! Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [MBZ] drive up ramps
Hi Glenn, I've cc'd the list... I agree, I own a set of jackstands but according to the news it'll struggle to get into the 20s this week so hydralic jacks are pretty much out I was thinking the ramp would be good for lifting, then put my jackstand underneith to actually hold the thing up... -Curt Glenn M. Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Curt, Don't! There was a story on the news within the last couple months where a fellow was found deceased a couple days later under his car since the ramps had collapsed. I never get under a car without my hydraulic jack and jack stands, it's nor worth the risk. Good luck. G. M. Brown Rochester, NY - Any questions? Get answers on any topic at Yahoo! Answers. Try it now. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Feb 04 02:20:56 2007 Received: from web32804.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.206.34]) by server8.arterytc8.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) id 1HDWzw-0004eh-Cf for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Sun, 04 Feb 2007 02:20:56 + Received: (qmail 66419 invoked by uid 60001); 4 Feb 2007 02:20:08 - X-YMail-OSG: cDdo9yoVM1nlEJryo70ebVA3batEzcd1LmSPMJuEBZvVNzBDytBCsoqgeMP4zb3ngpklnsHSJr7aIm1C18HAx6_HH5Lc71vf1UjimK5gSLjv9_m.bszFSs05qP61sc0nfa6aOtwJUrJOa2c- Received: from [63.209.234.170] by web32804.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 03 Feb 2007 18:20:08 PST Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2007 18:20:08 -0800 (PST) From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9.cp2 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oh man X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2007 02:20:56 - Actually Fred has (had?) an '84 190D like mine that he'd dangled at me for a very reasonable price... I should probably consider getting on the stick and buying it. -Curt Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2007 15:22:35 -0500 From: Dwight E. Giles, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oh man To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Ugh-sorry to hear that curt. Maybe you should get that 87 300D in Wellesley Hills. Dwight Bissell Cove Quahog Auto Salvage Co Dwight E. Giles, Jr. Wickford RI 02852 - Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. Try the Yahoo! Mail Beta. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Feb 04 03:12:40 2007 Received: from smtp3.clear.net.nz ([203.97.33.64]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) id 1HDXnz-0006jC-SV for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Sun, 04 Feb 2007 03:12:40 + Received: from [192.168.0.2] (202-0-58-50.cable.telstraclear.net [202.0.58.50]) by smtp3.clear.net.nz (CLEAR Net Mail) with ESMTP id [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Sun, 04 Feb 2007 16:11:30 +1300 (NZDT) Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2007 16:11:29 +1300 From: Euan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: [MBZ] Lubricating wiper mechanism to shuddering wipers X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2007 03:12:40 - Hi there folks What parts of my 300TD wiper assembly are accessible for lubrication? My new-ish wipers (MB arms and blades) sweep in a silky smooth fashion when first started, but if left to run continuously or intermittently, they soon develop a shuddering action. The shuddering is not major
Re: [MBZ] Uh oh - fuel leak
I'm thinking to get a set of those drive up ramps for stuff like this. Anybody use 'em? I do. I have two sets, old green ones that are stamped in shape, as opposed to welded-up ones. I always felt safer under the stamped ones since they looked to me as being less likely to buckle suddenly, as they weren't dependent on rigid straight sections to begin with. I expect, but have no proof of, a more gradual failure mechanism. But a nice jack stand or two underneath in addition is an nice life preserver. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Pressure vs flow
David Brodbeck wrote: Even my '89 VW Cabriolet has a note in the owner's manual to avoid high RPM until the oil temperature is over 50 C, which corresponds to the bottom peg on the oil temperature gauge. I seem to recall hearing that some cars had a three-state temperature light that would light up blue at cold temperatures to remind you to take it easy, but I can't recall which ones. Sometimes I wonder just how high the oil pressure in a Mercedes gets after a cold start. The gauges only go up to 3, of course, so we can't really know. I believe the pressure relief on a 617 is around 6.5 bar. Mitch.
Re: [MBZ] Luckiest man in the world!
Curt Raymond wrote: Luckier actually, one of the hoses to the cooler was DISCONNECTED. Could this have been a hose that was unplugged so they flushed the tranny, and then not clamped down properly?
Re: [MBZ] Lubricating wiper mechanism to shuddering wipers
Euan wrote: Hi there folks What parts of my 300TD wiper assembly are accessible for lubrication? My new-ish wipers (MB arms and blades) sweep in a silky smooth fashion when first started, but if left to run continuously or intermittently, they soon develop a shuddering action. The shuddering is not major but it's irritating. The complete assembly (above the grill) was installed new last year and hasn't been altered, bent or twisted, so I'm assuming that the problem originates elsewhere in the mechanism. The shuddering persists when both wipers are lifted off the windscreen. Here's the wisdom of Stu Ritter on the subject: When the wipers are juddering across the windshield, the geometry of the wiper should be checked. Make sure that the wiper blade is exactly perpendicular to the windshield. You can bend the wiper arm to insure the blades perpendicularity. You can also rebow the wiper arm as they loose their spring over time. As the wiper arms age, they are fighting against the tension spring that is located at the base of the arm. The arms get flat over time. You can regain the spring tension by rebowing the arm or re-establishing the bow (curve) the arm had when it was new. In snow country, I even exaggerate the bow abit to strengthen the spring for scrapping snow and ice.. Stu -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [MBZ] Lubricating wiper mechanism to shuddering wipers
Marshall, The original post states The shuddering persists when both wipers are lifted off the windscreen. In other words, this is something other than the blades chattering across the glass. I suspect something in the mechanism is worn out. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marshall Booth Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 8:39 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lubricating wiper mechanism to shuddering wipers Euan wrote: Hi there folks What parts of my 300TD wiper assembly are accessible for lubrication? My new-ish wipers (MB arms and blades) sweep in a silky smooth fashion when first started, but if left to run continuously or intermittently, they soon develop a shuddering action. The shuddering is not major but it's irritating. The complete assembly (above the grill) was installed new last year and hasn't been altered, bent or twisted, so I'm assuming that the problem originates elsewhere in the mechanism. The shuddering persists when both wipers are lifted off the windscreen. Here's the wisdom of Stu Ritter on the subject: When the wipers are juddering across the windshield, the geometry of the wiper should be checked. Make sure that the wiper blade is exactly perpendicular to the windshield. You can bend the wiper arm to insure the blades perpendicularity. You can also rebow the wiper arm as they loose their spring over time. As the wiper arms age, they are fighting against the tension spring that is located at the base of the arm. The arms get flat over time. You can regain the spring tension by rebowing the arm or re-establishing the bow (curve) the arm had when it was new. In snow country, I even exaggerate the bow abit to strengthen the spring for scrapping snow and ice.. Stu -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Lubricating wiper mechanism to shuddering wipers
An annoying slap as the arm moves back up on the passenger side is a loose wiper blade -- I've had this occur on both cars. The riveted joints in the little bow springs wear and allow the whole blade to lean over, and the combination of pressure and motion causes the blade to flop over to the other side. Sounds as if someone were slapping the windshield. A new assembly, not just the rubber blade, fixed it. And, as I have now, there are two lengths for the wiper arm. I believe the original was about an inch longer than the second version, and if you get the wrong blade, it will collide with the trim at the sides of the windshield and sometimes at the top as well, making for what sounds like broken teeth in the gears. Easily solved by getting the older blade assembly with the hole offset differently. If the arm was replaced, it will likely be the new one, but I don't know that for sure. MB has two numbers that I don't remember at the moment (someone will surely chime in), but auto parts stores often stock only one blade, and it may or may not be correct. The tip of the blade should be well clear of the side trim, not underneath it. Peter
Re: [MBZ] Lubricating wiper mechanism to shuddering wipers
Or bad, new in the box. Lubricate the hardened sliding pin with a couple drops of transmission fluid (its under the small cover on the arm). If this cures the problem, even for a while, you need to clean and lube it properly. If it does not change things, the box is bad. I have found that the arm cover can be forced down too far, causing it to scrape on the lower housing, This is quite alarming. A bit of grease and prying up slightly cured it for me. Peter
[MBZ] Kaleb or anyone, a shipping question
IIRC, in a thread about shipping parts, Kaleb said he shipped with just a tag, no boxing. Was that correct and was it UPS? I know I got a Ford gas tank with only enough cardboard for addresses, also wheels and tires. Thanks for any input. Harry
Re: [MBZ] Lubricating wiper mechanism to shuddering wipers
Euan wrote:
Hi there folks
What parts of my 300TD wiper assembly are accessible for lubrication?
My new-ish wipers (MB arms and blades) sweep in a silky smooth fashion
when first started, but if left to run continuously or intermittently,
they soon develop a shuddering action. The shuddering is not major but
it's irritating.
The complete assembly (above the grill) was installed new last year and
hasn't been altered, bent or twisted, so I'm assuming that the problem
originates elsewhere in the mechanism. The shuddering persists when both
wipers are lifted off the windscreen.
Any recommendations for lubricant?
I've had the transmission (located under the grill) of an '84 190D wear
out and it shuddered, clacked, clunked, etc. The ONLY thing that
provided relief was replacement with a good used one (that cost less
than $50) that wasn't worn out (the original joints were simply worn out).
Later ('85+) 201 and 124 wiper mechanisms often require lubrication but
I don't think that's very effective with 123/126 mechanisms which seem
similar in construction to the early 201 series mechanisms.
Marshall
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Marshall Booth Ph.D.
Ass't Prof. (ret.)
Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine
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Re: [MBZ] Kaleb or anyone, a shipping question
I rec'd a muffler via UPS which was taped and bubbled wrapper (mostly on the ends) and there were no problems that I know of. It must be something difficult to damage though so it won't have a box to absorb hits. What are you shipping? Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Harry Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 10:07 AM Subject: [MBZ] Kaleb or anyone, a shipping question IIRC, in a thread about shipping parts, Kaleb said he shipped with just a tag, no boxing. Was that correct and was it UPS? I know I got a Ford gas tank with only enough cardboard for addresses, also wheels and tires. Thanks for any input. Harry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.411 / Virus Database: 268.17.22/666 - Release Date: 2/3/2007
Re: [MBZ] Kaleb or anyone, a shipping question
Maybe a drive shaft, I removed mine yesterday and the U joint has a cracked bearing cup. So if the two ends were wired together so as not to separate, it should go okay? Harry On 2/4/07, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I rec'd a muffler via UPS which was taped and bubbled wrapper (mostly on the ends) and there were no problems that I know of. It must be something difficult to damage though so it won't have a box to absorb hits. What are you shipping? Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Harry Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 10:07 AM Subject: [MBZ] Kaleb or anyone, a shipping question IIRC, in a thread about shipping parts, Kaleb said he shipped with just a tag, no boxing. Was that correct and was it UPS? I know I got a Ford gas tank with only enough cardboard for addresses, also wheels and tires. Thanks for any input. Harry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.411 / Virus Database: 268.17.22/666 - Release Date: 2/3/2007 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Oil is Killing our Cars....comments anyone?...esp. regarding Mobil 1
Speaking of M1... I was just at a couple Wal-marts and I see one of them now has a M1 10-40 for high mileage engines. What do we think of this stuff? Levi On 2/2/07, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Christopher McCann wrote: http://www.svmgcc.org/tech_tips/oil_is_killing.htm Nothing new here. The nits have been arguing about this for years. The people that seriously lubricate car and truck engines settled this and make fine oils. Mercedes warned against choosing oil based on API rating. Use a Mercedes rated oil and it will protect your engine. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Kaleb or anyone, a shipping question
On Sun, 4 Feb 2007, LarryT wrote: I rec'd a muffler via UPS which was taped and bubbled wrapper (mostly on the ends) and there were no problems that I know of. It must be something difficult to damage though so it won't have a box to absorb hits. I've gotten more than one this way; the ends wraped in the dense foam wrap and saran, then saran holding a tag on the muffler body. Heck, I've gotten complete exhausts this way. You need to make sure that the ends of the pipes arent deformed tho, this seems to happen sometimes. -.
Re: [MBZ] Kaleb or anyone, a shipping question
Thanks John Was all of this UPS? It sounds like shipping a drive shaft without boxing is a go. Harry On 2/4/07, John W. Reames III [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 4 Feb 2007, LarryT wrote: I rec'd a muffler via UPS which was taped and bubbled wrapper (mostly on the ends) and there were no problems that I know of. It must be something difficult to damage though so it won't have a box to absorb hits. I've gotten more than one this way; the ends wraped in the dense foam wrap and saran, then saran holding a tag on the muffler body. Heck, I've gotten complete exhausts this way. You need to make sure that the ends of the pipes arent deformed tho, this seems to happen sometimes. -. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cracked head?
These cars simply do not last like those from the 50s. ;) On 2/3/07, Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the head finally let go on my 67 300D -- suddenly I'm adding coolant and I have a condensation trail on very cold mornings for a while. I do have some oil in the expansion tank, too -- will check for cold pressure tomorrow (this has not been a problem yet), but I suspect I'm going to have to look for a head. Sigh. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Will not start
What effect will the condition of the glow plugs have on cold weather starting? On 2/3/07, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bruce Lulfs wrote: All 3 of my diesels will not start. I used to get my fuel as a truck stop all the time but did not do so this year. I never had any trouble before. All turn over just fine but will not even try to start. I got fuel for all 3 at the same place I wonder if that could be the trouble? I never put anything in my fuel before and now I wonder what if anything would help now? Thanks for any help Adding an anti-gel will do little or NOTHING until it can be circulated thru the fuel system. That takes at least 5-10 minutes of engine operation. If the fuel line or filter is occluded with ice (from water in the fuel) or waxed fuel, the engine won't start so the anti-gel can't circulate. Moving the car indoors or pouring hot water over the fuel filter will SOMETIMES help and so can directing a hair dryer at the filter. There hasn't been temps this low in western PA and Ohio in about 10 years. When it gets this cold I suggest buying premium winterized fuel (I've had really good experiences with BP/Amoco diesel) and add a shot of a brand name anti-gel to the tank when temps drop below zero. If the valves haven't been adjusted in the last 10-15kmi, that can prevent starting in cold weather too. Using Mobil 1 oil will lower cold start temps about 10 degree and the block heater will allow the engine to start at about any temp - UNLESS the fuel has waxed, there is water in the fuel or the valves are tight! Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Kaleb or anyone, a shipping question
It is - you can ship just about any bulk item but they charge a little more. UPS has some rules that you must follow when attaching a shipping label. You can research on UPS.com or call your local office. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Harry Watkins Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 10:35 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Kaleb or anyone, a shipping question Thanks John Was all of this UPS? It sounds like shipping a drive shaft without boxing is a go. Harry On 2/4/07, John W. Reames III [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 4 Feb 2007, LarryT wrote: I rec'd a muffler via UPS which was taped and bubbled wrapper (mostly on the ends) and there were no problems that I know of. It must be something difficult to damage though so it won't have a box to absorb hits. I've gotten more than one this way; the ends wraped in the dense foam wrap and saran, then saran holding a tag on the muffler body. Heck, I've gotten complete exhausts this way. You need to make sure that the ends of the pipes arent deformed tho, this seems to happen sometimes. -. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Will not start
Two years ago when mine got bad in the 240D it wouldn't start much below 30F and that was with about 50% No. 1 fuel. Two were completely bad and one was barely heating. After four new glow plugs, it stared using #2 as low as 7F with no block heater. FWIW. Dwight Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1979 240D-250K + miles 1990 300D 2.5t 135K miles Wickford, RI What effect will the condition of the glow plugs have on cold weather starting? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cracked head?
Sorry to hear about your head problem, but I look forward to the education we will get from your experience. How did the cold pressure test turn out? Thanks Harry On 2/4/07, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: These cars simply do not last like those from the 50s. ;) On 2/3/07, Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the head finally let go on my 67 300D -- suddenly I'm adding coolant and I have a condensation trail on very cold mornings for a while. I do have some oil in the expansion tank, too -- will check for cold pressure tomorrow (this has not been a problem yet), but I suspect I'm going to have to look for a head. Sigh. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Will not start
A Mercedes engine in good shape with a couple of burned out glow plugs will start in the summer but 2 or more burned out glow plugs will make the car impossible to start in cold weather. It will seem to almost catch but the remaining cylinders just are not providing enough HP to keep the engine running. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 10:38 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Will not start What effect will the condition of the glow plugs have on cold weather starting? On 2/3/07, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bruce Lulfs wrote: All 3 of my diesels will not start. I used to get my fuel as a truck stop all the time but did not do so this year. I never had any trouble before. All turn over just fine but will not even try to start. I got fuel for all 3 at the same place I wonder if that could be the trouble? I never put anything in my fuel before and now I wonder what if anything would help now? Thanks for any help Adding an anti-gel will do little or NOTHING until it can be circulated thru the fuel system. That takes at least 5-10 minutes of engine operation. If the fuel line or filter is occluded with ice (from water in the fuel) or waxed fuel, the engine won't start so the anti-gel can't circulate. Moving the car indoors or pouring hot water over the fuel filter will SOMETIMES help and so can directing a hair dryer at the filter. There hasn't been temps this low in western PA and Ohio in about 10 years. When it gets this cold I suggest buying premium winterized fuel (I've had really good experiences with BP/Amoco diesel) and add a shot of a brand name anti-gel to the tank when temps drop below zero. If the valves haven't been adjusted in the last 10-15kmi, that can prevent starting in cold weather too. Using Mobil 1 oil will lower cold start temps about 10 degree and the block heater will allow the engine to start at about any temp - UNLESS the fuel has waxed, there is water in the fuel or the valves are tight! Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] drive up ramps
Bring your jack in the house the night before so it is warm. Jack the car up, put it on stands and take the jack back inside while you work. Mike - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Glenn M. Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 9:12 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] drive up ramps Hi Glenn, I've cc'd the list... I agree, I own a set of jackstands but according to the news it'll struggle to get into the 20s this week so hydralic jacks are pretty much out I was thinking the ramp would be good for lifting, then put my jackstand underneith to actually hold the thing up... -Curt Glenn M. Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Curt, Don't! There was a story on the news within the last couple months where a fellow was found deceased a couple days later under his car since the ramps had collapsed. I never get under a car without my hydraulic jack and jack stands, it's nor worth the risk. Good luck. G. M. Brown Rochester, NY - Any questions? Get answers on any topic at Yahoo! Answers. Try it now. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cracked head?
Or any later ones -- I think the problem has been fixed in the updated heads. Mine was iffy when I bought it about 6 years ago, I'm not surprised, just annoyed. It has 260,000 miles on it, on the original head, and I don't know how well it was taken care of before I got it (I'm fourth or fifth owner). Just another expensive job, alas. It's an 87, with the 603 engine, not a 67. Ain't dyslexia great? Peter
Re: [MBZ] OT Jeep
hi! after you've checked and cleaned the relevant fuses and their connections, make sure you do the same with the ground cable that runs from the engine to the firewall. i'm not positive about this because your '98 has the later interior and instrumentation, but if that doesn't get it, there's a sort of a ground bus at the back on the instrument panel of the earlier models that several XJ colleagues of mine have found needs cleaning up after a decade or so,... cheers! e '94 XJ 4.0 (226K miles) Frederick Moir wrote: Hi, Gurus, (Guri?) 1998 Jeep Cherokee basic 4 cyl. manual etc. The instrument cluster seems to have been invaded by gremlins (AMC joke). The overheat lamp comes on, no actual overheat condition, and it will be accompanied by the oil pressure lamp or will alternate with the oil light.. The air bag lite also has a random impulse to expose itself. I have RTFM and looked on the web, maybe I'm not looking in the right places. Hellup! Fred Moir Lynn MA Why do my gashog owning friends call for help when it is 30 degrees out?
Re: [MBZ] Cracked head?
The 87's are an issue and the cracks tend to just appear regardless of maintenance. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Frederick Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 10:39 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cracked head? Or any later ones -- I think the problem has been fixed in the updated heads. Mine was iffy when I bought it about 6 years ago, I'm not surprised, just annoyed. It has 260,000 miles on it, on the original head, and I don't know how well it was taken care of before I got it (I'm fourth or fifth owner). Just another expensive job, alas. It's an 87, with the 603 engine, not a 67. Ain't dyslexia great? Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Kaleb or anyone, a shipping question
Thanks Tom Here are the UPS guidelines for bare metal shipping. Packing: Please tape corrugated cardboard pieces to all sharp or protruding edges for protection. Cover the other surfaces of the item as needed. Labeling: Please tape your address label securely on the flattest surface of the item that you are shipping. Cover the entire label with clear tape.Do not use flying tags (tags that hang from the item that you are shipping). On 2/4/07, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is - you can ship just about any bulk item but they charge a little more. UPS has some rules that you must follow when attaching a shipping label. You can research on UPS.com or call your local office. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Harry Watkins Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 10:35 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Kaleb or anyone, a shipping question Thanks John Was all of this UPS? It sounds like shipping a drive shaft without boxing is a go. Harry On 2/4/07, John W. Reames III [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 4 Feb 2007, LarryT wrote: I rec'd a muffler via UPS which was taped and bubbled wrapper (mostly on the ends) and there were no problems that I know of. It must be something difficult to damage though so it won't have a box to absorb hits. I've gotten more than one this way; the ends wraped in the dense foam wrap and saran, then saran holding a tag on the muffler body. Heck, I've gotten complete exhausts this way. You need to make sure that the ends of the pipes arent deformed tho, this seems to happen sometimes. -. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] drive up ramps
Years ago, I had a steel jack stand fail. I owned a pair of stands manufactured out of tube steel. I put my 81 Pontiac Bonneville diesel on the stands to check the brakes I watched the one on the left side slowly collapse. The pin that was used to adjust the stand height slowly ripped through the outer tube until the tire was back on the ground. Both jack stands were properly placed. I had used these for years I guess the steel under the pin fatigued enough to start the tear once it started, it continued until enough weight was removed to stop. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Canfield Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 10:46 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] drive up ramps Bring your jack in the house the night before so it is warm. Jack the car up, put it on stands and take the jack back inside while you work. Mike - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Glenn M. Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 9:12 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] drive up ramps Hi Glenn, I've cc'd the list... I agree, I own a set of jackstands but according to the news it'll struggle to get into the 20s this week so hydralic jacks are pretty much out I was thinking the ramp would be good for lifting, then put my jackstand underneith to actually hold the thing up... -Curt Glenn M. Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Curt, Don't! There was a story on the news within the last couple months where a fellow was found deceased a couple days later under his car since the ramps had collapsed. I never get under a car without my hydraulic jack and jack stands, it's nor worth the risk. Good luck. G. M. Brown Rochester, NY - Any questions? Get answers on any topic at Yahoo! Answers. Try it now. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Kaleb or anyone, a shipping question
No problem. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Harry Watkins Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 11:00 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Kaleb or anyone, a shipping question Thanks Tom Here are the UPS guidelines for bare metal shipping. Packing: Please tape corrugated cardboard pieces to all sharp or protruding edges for protection. Cover the other surfaces of the item as needed. Labeling: Please tape your address label securely on the flattest surface of the item that you are shipping. Cover the entire label with clear tape.Do not use flying tags (tags that hang from the item that you are shipping). On 2/4/07, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is - you can ship just about any bulk item but they charge a little more. UPS has some rules that you must follow when attaching a shipping label. You can research on UPS.com or call your local office. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Harry Watkins Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 10:35 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Kaleb or anyone, a shipping question Thanks John Was all of this UPS? It sounds like shipping a drive shaft without boxing is a go. Harry On 2/4/07, John W. Reames III [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 4 Feb 2007, LarryT wrote: I rec'd a muffler via UPS which was taped and bubbled wrapper (mostly on the ends) and there were no problems that I know of. It must be something difficult to damage though so it won't have a box to absorb hits. I've gotten more than one this way; the ends wraped in the dense foam wrap and saran, then saran holding a tag on the muffler body. Heck, I've gotten complete exhausts this way. You need to make sure that the ends of the pipes arent deformed tho, this seems to happen sometimes. -. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Block heaters
Do the Mercedes block heaters have any sort of thermostatic control or are they always on when plugged in? Also, is there a chart of time required to heat up an engine based on outside temps? Steve
Re: [MBZ] Kaleb or anyone, a shipping question
Stay away from DHL. when shipping bare parts. If you are in a position to negotiate a volume discount, DHL will give you the cheapest contract rates. They will also give you the most grief on a regular basis, however. FedEx is usually he next cheapest. UPS is unionized, but their driver productivity is the highest and complaints are the lowest. At least that has been my experience. -Dave Walton On 2/4/07, Harry Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IIRC, in a thread about shipping parts, Kaleb said he shipped with just a tag, no boxing. Was that correct and was it UPS? I know I got a Ford gas tank with only enough cardboard for addresses, also wheels and tires. Thanks for any input. Harry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Block heaters
Do the Mercedes block heaters have any sort of thermostatic control or are they always on when plugged in? Also, is there a chart of time required to heat up an engine based on outside temps? Plugged-in == heat. Simple. I find that between 1-2 hours gives you everything that can be gotten, more time is a waste. Unless it is particularly cold, even 1/2 hour will help markedly. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Block heaters
temp -10F and told 1 1/2 hours plug in time for my 81 300 TD to start almost instantly bill Jim Cathey wrote: Do the Mercedes block heaters have any sort of thermostatic control or are they always on when plugged in? Also, is there a chart of time required to heat up an engine based on outside temps? Plugged-in == heat. Simple. I find that between 1-2 hours gives you everything that can be gotten, more time is a waste. Unless it is particularly cold, even 1/2 hour will help markedly. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Block heaters
I tried mine on the Kill-a-watt and it seems to only be around 375 watts. What I'm curious about is if everyone is just popping the hood a couple times a day to plug/unplug, or if anyone's figured out a better way? I think I could fit the plug out at either the front or rear of the hood without pinching, but it would get full of snow and ice on the first ride on less than dry pavement... Levi On 2/4/07, Steve Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do the Mercedes block heaters have any sort of thermostatic control or are they always on when plugged in? Also, is there a chart of time required to heat up an engine based on outside temps? Steve ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Block heaters
Levi, On my '80 300SD, I snaked the plug out thru/near the right headlight assembly and kept it behind the override bumper. The plug has a cover so that it could be kept dry. Never needed to open hood. Before I got the block heater, I used to put a 60W bulb next to the injector and a 200W w/reflector under the oil pan. That worked, but was a whole lot more trouble. HTH and take care, Chuck Phoenix, AZ Only vergassers now and no need for a block heater in Phoenix On Feb 4, 2007, at 12:07 PM, Levi Smith wrote: I tried mine on the Kill-a-watt and it seems to only be around 375 watts. What I'm curious about is if everyone is just popping the hood a couple times a day to plug/unplug, or if anyone's figured out a better way? I think I could fit the plug out at either the front or rear of the hood without pinching, but it would get full of snow and ice on the first ride on less than dry pavement...
Re: [MBZ] Block heaters
Thanks. I will look for a timer so that I don't just run it all night. I only need it for maybe 2 weeks a year and have not invested any time in finding out about it. I should ask my sister about them as she lives in Fairbanks and will plug her car in all over town. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Cathey Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 1:23 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Block heaters Do the Mercedes block heaters have any sort of thermostatic control or are they always on when plugged in? Also, is there a chart of time required to heat up an engine based on outside temps? Plugged-in == heat. Simple. I find that between 1-2 hours gives you everything that can be gotten, more time is a waste. Unless it is particularly cold, even 1/2 hour will help markedly. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Block heaters
When I used one, I rigged up the extension cord so that when I backed up the cord pulled tight unplugged itself. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Levi Smith Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 1:07 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Block heaters I tried mine on the Kill-a-watt and it seems to only be around 375 watts. What I'm curious about is if everyone is just popping the hood a couple times a day to plug/unplug, or if anyone's figured out a better way? I think I could fit the plug out at either the front or rear of the hood without pinching, but it would get full of snow and ice on the first ride on less than dry pavement... Levi On 2/4/07, Steve Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do the Mercedes block heaters have any sort of thermostatic control or are they always on when plugged in? Also, is there a chart of time required to heat up an engine based on outside temps? Steve ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cracked head?
andrew strasfogel wrote: These cars simply do not last like those from the 50s. ;) The cars from the fifties required 2-5X the maintenance that today's cars do. On a W180 220S there were more than 30 grease fitting that had to be greased every 3kmi (and that didn't include the grease fittings on the door hinges that were to be lubed at every service)! The starters and generators routinely failed within 60kmi. When Mercedes introduced lubricated for life fittings in 1968, many owners and mechanics felt they would not deliver the service that the fittings that required greasing would deliver. In fact, the permanent fittings lasted on average twice as long. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [MBZ] Uh oh - fuel leak
Hew wide is the base of these metal ramps? I'm wondering about the relatice safety of a stack of 2X12's --- I do. I have two sets, old green ones that are stamped in shape, as opposed to welded-up ones. I always felt safer under the stamped ones since they looked to me as being less likely to buckle suddenly, as they weren't dependent on rigid straight sections to begin with. I expect, but have no proof of, a more gradual failure mechanism. But a nice jack stand or two underneath in addition is an nice life preserver. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there. Will Rogers '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager
Re: [MBZ] Block heaters
I tried mine on the Kill-a-watt and it seems to only be around 375 watts. Just about right. What I'm curious about is if everyone is just popping the hood a couple times a day to plug/unplug, or if anyone's figured out a better way? My plug snakes through in front of the radiator, and tucks up behind the bumper when not in use. Stays relatively clean there, and is easy to grab without popping the hood. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Uh oh - fuel leak
Hew wide is the base of these metal ramps? I'm wondering about the relatice safety of a stack of 2X12's --- Probably about a foot. 2x12's will work well too, but you must take care they won't skid apart. Some nails and some wood pieces to make a stepped block would work well. For even better safety you could take care to ensure the grain pattern of each layer differed, and make your own glue-lam. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Will not start
andrew strasfogel wrote: What effect will the condition of the glow plugs have on cold weather starting? Plugs that measure correctly and that aren't encased in carbon should start the car as well a new plugs. As plugs age, they will fatigue, but that is reflected in the current flow characteristics. Second only to to plug condition in inhibiting starting in cold weather are valve clearances. If one or two are tight, starting in below freezing temperatures is seriously compromised or even prevented. Finally, the fuel must flow freely. Number 2 diesel starts to cloud and flow is inhibited at just below freezing unless winterized. Finally, any water in the fuel will freeze and plug the fuel lines and plate ice onto the filter surfaces. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [MBZ] Block heaters
Steve Bailey wrote: Do the Mercedes block heaters have any sort of thermostatic control or are they always on when plugged in? Also, is there a chart of time required to heat up an engine based on outside temps? There is NO control, the block heater runs at full power as long as it's plugged in. They are all between 400-500W heaters so thats how much heat they can generate. That will heat the engine to 20-30 deg C. in a few hours if the outside temps aren't too low. A chart would be rather pointless since so many other factors (such as sun and wind) would change how long it would take to heat the engine to a given temp. The actual intent is to raise the temp to about O deg. C. where the engine will start very easily. I have found that all of my cars (115, 123, 124, 201) would start when cold soaked to 20 below zero F (~30 below C) if the heater were energized for several hours. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [MBZ] Kaleb or anyone, a shipping question
I missed the original ?I have shipped driveshafts in priority Mail tubes. They are free and work well. Tape 2 together if you need length. Mike - Original Message - From: Harry Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 11:35 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Kaleb or anyone, a shipping question Thanks John Was all of this UPS? It sounds like shipping a drive shaft without boxing is a go. Harry On 2/4/07, John W. Reames III [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 4 Feb 2007, LarryT wrote: I rec'd a muffler via UPS which was taped and bubbled wrapper (mostly on the ends) and there were no problems that I know of. It must be something difficult to damage though so it won't have a box to absorb hits. I've gotten more than one this way; the ends wraped in the dense foam wrap and saran, then saran holding a tag on the muffler body. Heck, I've gotten complete exhausts this way. You need to make sure that the ends of the pipes arent deformed tho, this seems to happen sometimes. -. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Uh oh - fuel leak
OK Don wrote: Hew wide is the base of these metal ramps? I'm wondering about the relatice safety of a stack of 2X12's --- My cousin has a set he made out of 2x8 or stock, about 16 wide, 4' long. Very solid. Take a 6' long 2x8, slice it at an angle to make two ramp shaped boards, full width for a foot or so, then tapering to a point. Take a 2x12 (or a pair of 2x6's) that's as long as you want your ramp to be wide, nail the two tapered boards to it so it becomes the back wall of the ramp and serves as a stop at the top. Now nail 2x8s across the top of the ramp to serve as decking. Unlike many commercially produced ramps, the slope is gentle enough to drive a 2.3-16v onto without hitting the front spoiler. Mitch.
Re: [MBZ] Kaleb or anyone, a shipping question
Delivery Hopelessly Lost...I can go into detail if need be but I suggest staying away from them as well. Mike - Original Message - From: dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 1:04 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Kaleb or anyone, a shipping question Stay away from DHL. when shipping bare parts. If you are in a position to negotiate a volume discount, DHL will give you the cheapest contract rates. They will also give you the most grief on a regular basis, however. FedEx is usually he next cheapest. UPS is unionized, but their driver productivity is the highest and complaints are the lowest. At least that has been my experience. -Dave Walton On 2/4/07, Harry Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IIRC, in a thread about shipping parts, Kaleb said he shipped with just a tag, no boxing. Was that correct and was it UPS? I know I got a Ford gas tank with only enough cardboard for addresses, also wheels and tires. Thanks for any input. Harry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Kaleb or anyone, a shipping question
If the parts you talked of wiring together are completely seperate from the d'shaft you might want to consider boxing the extra pieces and ship on their own. If the pieces are still attached to the d'shaft and are just loose but not broken away from the D'shaft completely I suggest you wire them and bubble wrap with saran wrap them as Tom suggested so they don't move around. From looking at it and cursory examination it should appear to be one piece. Yes, UPS is what I've used for stuff like this. Also, I used Greyhound once to ship a fiberglas bumper from Va to Oregon - weighed about 20#s and cost around $30. Took 3 days to get there. I bought 3 wardrobe boxes on eBay for $45 shipping included - and taped two of the boxes together. The buyer paid for the big boxes and other stuff. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Harry Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 11:35 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Kaleb or anyone, a shipping question Thanks John Was all of this UPS? It sounds like shipping a drive shaft without boxing is a go. Harry On 2/4/07, John W. Reames III [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 4 Feb 2007, LarryT wrote: I rec'd a muffler via UPS which was taped and bubbled wrapper (mostly on the ends) and there were no problems that I know of. It must be something difficult to damage though so it won't have a box to absorb hits. I've gotten more than one this way; the ends wraped in the dense foam wrap and saran, then saran holding a tag on the muffler body. Heck, I've gotten complete exhausts this way. You need to make sure that the ends of the pipes arent deformed tho, this seems to happen sometimes. -. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.411 / Virus Database: 268.17.22/666 - Release Date: 2/3/2007
Re: [MBZ] Cracked head?
It's kind of hard to see with everything buttoned up, but when I pulled the intake from my '87 it was immediately apparent that one source of coolant loss was the brittle o-ring that makes the seal for the fuel heater pipe at the head. Mine was visibly leaking with just a hint of residual pressure in the cooling system. -joe (currently resting himself between 1st 2nd 90 degree head bolt drill)
Re: [MBZ] Cracked head?
I'll check that -- I'd very much like to avoid doing the head for a bit, I have to put a roof on the house this summer, plus replace all the windows peter
[MBZ] one of the great problems with being a gambler
is that you really need to make the professional bets to be successful. simply put, a professional bet is a bet that your head makes in opposition to your heart. the professional bet for me here would be to take the bears in the super bowl. so many reasons to take them it isn't even funny. but i worship at the shrine of peyton and i REALLY want him to have a super bowl ring. so what can I do? if i were a real gambler, i'd just bet the bears. but i'm too much of a fan in the end.
