[MBZ] W123 brake pad question

2007-02-21 Thread kevin kraly
I have a brand new set of rear pads that I originally bought for my '77 300D. Are these different than those on the W126 1983 300SD? If so, I guess I'll have to sell them or wait until I end up with another W123. Kevin in HIllsboro, OR 1983 300SD 266K miles, Ursula

Re: [MBZ] PT vs HHR actually

2007-02-21 Thread kevin kraly
My parents have an HHR, small, but comfortable. I too would like it to be supersized with some sort of diesel powerplant in it. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 266K miles, Ursula

Re: [MBZ] PT vs HHR actually

2007-02-21 Thread R A Bennell
Call me wierd but I like the look of them both - maybe I'm gettin old. The thing that disappoints me is the size. If the HHR were the size of a Suburban, I might be interested. I have seen some of the old 40's or early 50's Suburbans with that rounded style and they are really cool. If I could ha

Re: [MBZ] Compressor woes, post mortem

2007-02-21 Thread BillR
Ditto [though I do shy away from that term]. BillR - Original Message - From: "Royce Engler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 5:13 PM Subject: [MBZ] Compressor woes, post mortem I have occasionally run the heater coming to work and the A/C going home. Tom

[MBZ] Compressor woes, post mortem

2007-02-21 Thread Royce Engler
I have occasionally run the heater coming to work and the A/C going home. Tom Potter (another Houstonian) Tom...Been there, done that. Royce Engler 1985 300TD Turbo 290K

Re: [MBZ] Brake Squeal

2007-02-21 Thread Hendrik Riessen
Brake squeal can also be caused by glazed pads due to incorrect driving. This is a particular problem with lady drivers who always gently apply brakes, like my Mum. If a couple of hard braking stops don't cure the squeal then it may need some brake grease. - Original Message - From: "

Re: [MBZ] Brake Squeal and other topics

2007-02-21 Thread Tom Hargrave
Same reason for both. The pad is not squeezed as tightly to the rotor as it may seem, even with the pedal pressed hard. If it were then the brake pad & rotor would be locked together with no slippage at all & the wheels would be locked up. Consider applying your brakes a controlled slide with th

Re: [MBZ] OT - PCs and Macs (was) Accents

2007-02-21 Thread Gary Hurst
beats me. neooffice looks like an os x program when you use it. openoffice does not. that is all i know about it On 2/21/07, Peter Frederick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Unless someone has re-written it, it won't -- NeoOffice is an X-windows program, not a Unix base or OS X native program. G

Re: [MBZ] cheap 87 300D

2007-02-21 Thread andrew strasfogel
Uh oh... *THE CAR HAVE TITLE ,BUT PARTS ONLY,ITS HAVE TITLE ,ITS HAS PREVIOS SALVAGE,THE RIGHT SPRING RUSTED OUT,BUT I WELDED NEW PIECE FROM MERCEDES DEALER IN AND NOW ITS RUNS AND DRIVES PERFECT,STAY STRIGHT TOO* On 2/20/07, Kaleb C. Striplin, Cox Auto Trader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ht

Re: [MBZ] Brake Squeal and other topics

2007-02-21 Thread Allan Streib
"Tom Hargrave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Brake squeal is caused by the brake pads vibrating at high > frequency. How can the pads be vibrating when they're being squeezed against the rotor? Why do drum brakes squeal too? Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230

Re: [MBZ] Brake Squeal and other topics

2007-02-21 Thread Tom Hargrave
Brake squeal is caused by the brake pads vibrating at high frequency. The magic goo goes between the back of the pads & caliper & helps dampen the vibration. Your local discount parts store usually has small packs for sale on the counter for less than $1.00 each. Just ask for the brake anti-squeal

Re: [MBZ] Brake Squeal and other topics

2007-02-21 Thread Tom Hargrave
This does not mean that it will stay away. Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com Original Message From: LT Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: 02/21/07 12:56 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brake Squeal and other topics -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= I got a little squeal from som

Re: [MBZ] W124 - Bad smell from vents in heat mode only

2007-02-21 Thread Peter Frederick
Dead coolant has a nasty smell, but to get it that bad requires some serious engine problems (the case I remember was a capped tubo cooler line, was getting the coolant about red hot and seriously oxidizing it). See if the coolant in the tank smells the same. Replace it if it does, and you wil

Re: [MBZ] OT - PCs and Macs (was) Accents

2007-02-21 Thread Peter Frederick
Are the problem drives Apple or aftermarket, and are they in good shape? A dodgy drive can take 15 minutes to default out in the system and re-open the door, quite a pain in the sitting part, and not a system fault, particularly. A flaky LG DVD-RW screwed me up quite a bit, would lock up even m

Re: [MBZ] OT - PCs and Macs (was) Accents

2007-02-21 Thread Peter Frederick
Unless someone has re-written it, it won't -- NeoOffice is an X-windows program, not a Unix base or OS X native program. GIMP is the same thing -- written for X-Windows. You just have to boot it up that way. This is not to say someone hasn't done it in the year or so since I obtained NeoOffi

[MBZ] W124 - Bad smell from vents in heat mode only

2007-02-21 Thread Alex Chamberlain
Gentlemen, Lately there's an acrid, nauseating chemical smell coming out of the vents of my '87 300D when the heat is on---I've smelled it before, but now it's bad enough to make the car undriveable in cold weather. It's not the smell of exhaust, oil, fuel, coolant, or brake linings. Could mayb

Re: [MBZ] Ball Joint Replacement

2007-02-21 Thread Peter Frederick
Assuming this is a later model with struts up front, this would be a good time to put new strut mounts in if you need them, as you will be removing the strut anyway. Get a new jounce bumper and a new boot at the same time, likely yours are worn and falling apart. Peter

[MBZ] Ball Joint Replacement

2007-02-21 Thread webmaster
I get creaking sound on turns and have been told by the dealer that I need a ball joint. Should I replace both at the same time (outers)? And, is there any other bushing etc. that I should change while things are apart (things that are likely to go, but would be less time-consuming t

Re: [MBZ] Brake Squeal and other topics

2007-02-21 Thread Potter, Tom E
Did you properly "seat" the new brake pads? Most pads require this, though some get by without it. The proper procedure is available on the Internet. I don't have the link at the moment. Tom Potter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rich Thom

Re: [MBZ] Brake Squeal and other topics

2007-02-21 Thread LT Don
I got a little squeal from some brake pads I purchased locally for the Benz. All the mechanic had to do was use a grind pad (sort of a Scotch Brite looking thing) to buff the coating off of the pads, and the problem went away. On 2/21/07, Donald Snook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Last week I need

Re: [MBZ] Brake Squeal and other topics

2007-02-21 Thread Rich Thomas
If I recall there is some sort of magic goo that MB sells to apply to the pads to keep them from squeaking, or you could use some of the generic stuff I suppose (Zo it vill not be POPER!) --R Donald Snook wrote: He says he uses genuine MB parts, but my brakes are squeaking when I apply th

Re: [MBZ] MB "quality" vs the rest

2007-02-21 Thread Tom Hargrave
Earnest's data shows that American car manufactures had a little more than 1 defect per vehicle on 06, which is a true fact. What his data does not show is the number one reported defect in 06 for all vehicles was brake squeal. Break squeal? A manufacturing defect? I bring this up because as qua

[MBZ] Brake Squeal and other topics

2007-02-21 Thread Donald Snook
Last week I needed to get my oil changed and haven't had time to do it myself. I dropped it off at my local indy -- Autohaus Stuttgart (has a very good reputation). I noticed that the low brake pad light was just starting to flicker. I asked him to check it our. I needed new pads. In fact, I RE

Re: [MBZ] MB "quality" vs the rest

2007-02-21 Thread Allan Streib
Part of the problem is one of those "laws" like "a gas will expand to the volume of its container." Well the complexity of cars increases to the limit of our ability to manufacture them. There's no doubt in my mind that any American manufacturer could build a basic car that would get you from poi

Re: [MBZ] MB "quality" vs the rest

2007-02-21 Thread ernest breakfield
thanks Tom, but i followed closely what was done with the trannys on my own vehicle, and that's not in question nor was it the only quality issue. (multiple dealerships; you don't even want to get started on what it was like to deal with some of them,... that's a whole 'nother topic!) point

Re: [MBZ] OT - PCs and Macs (was) Accents

2007-02-21 Thread jwreames
I dunno whats the issue with the mavica, but I am wondering if it has to do with following the appropriate "book" when it comes to multisession discs. As far as the server issue, ummm If you are talking about an NFS server (Macs should use NFS for file sharing with OSX if I recall properly), the

Re: [MBZ] OT - PCs and Macs

2007-02-21 Thread Jim Cathey
Mac OS prior to OS X was many things, but reliable was not one of them. At least prior to OS 9. OS 9 was improved, but not nearly as robust as OS X. A big, big part of the problem was all the nifty little bolt-on's that people were so in love with writing, and installing. Didn't take much of

[MBZ] My latest project

2007-02-21 Thread Rich Thomas
I think I'm going to build one of these, but I need to find a bigger back yard. http://www.ifilm.com/video/2821107/channel/viralvideo --R

Re: [MBZ] OT - PCs and Macs (was) Accents

2007-02-21 Thread Allan Streib
"Gary Hurst" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > it's hte os x that converted me instantly. i had seen the older mac > os and didn't see how it was any better than my windoze xp, outside > of perhaps being reliable. Mac OS prior to OS X was many things, but reliable was not one of them. At least prio

Re: [MBZ] 1979 240D Ignition Switch

2007-02-21 Thread OK Don
IIRC, the switch is held on by three screws -- I think I used one of those small right angle racheting screw drivers, but it was a few years ago --- I did not have to do anything to the tumbler assembly. Make sure that the vacuum lines are still attached when you're done - and don't switch them.

Re: [MBZ] OT - PCs and Macs (was) Accents

2007-02-21 Thread Lee Einer
Curt Raymond wrote: > Uhh, Word sucks, its a Microsoft product, get OpenOffice watch those problems > deflate. I use OO at home. I cannot dictate what software applications my employer chooses. And have you had to do the OO install dance on a Mac? A real PITA, compared with installing on a PC. Y

Re: [MBZ] Today's Puzzler

2007-02-21 Thread Curt Raymond
I noticed today that things are better if not yet back to normal... How about this added fact. If the blockheater runs for a couple hours the car starts fine with no throttle input. This issue is definately temperature sensitive. -Curt Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 14:58:33 -0500 From: Marshall Boot

Re: [MBZ] OT - PCs and Macs (was) Accents

2007-02-21 Thread Lee Einer
Ed Booher wrote: > On 2/20/07, Lee Einer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Peter Frederick wrote: >>> External media communication with the Mac is only a problem because the >>> vendors refuse to write the correct drivers, not because there is >>> anything inferior about the Mac. >>> >> And yet, the di

[MBZ] 1979 240D Ignition Switch

2007-02-21 Thread ts
I have to replace my ignition switch, seems fairly straight forward.via steering section in the 123 MB manual. Remove kick plate Remove instrument panel cluster pull wire pin from back of ignition switch/steer locking mechenism Does the swtich need to be "snaped out" or is it held in with sc

Re: [MBZ] MB "quality" vs the rest

2007-02-21 Thread ernest breakfield
Tom, you're going back farther than anything i was talking about,... i thought we were talking about something significantly more "modern"!;-) FWIW, none of the J**ps in question were anything but the straight 6 4.0 Liters, and almost all of them were the allegedly bulletproof AW4

Re: [MBZ] MB "quality" vs the rest

2007-02-21 Thread Tom Hargrave
Jeeps and minivans had serious issues in the late 80's and early 90's. The late 80's V6 minivans had engine trouble - the Mitsu engine had incorrect valve train geometry which put sideways pressure on the valves & wore the guides egg shaped well before 100,000 miles, causing a severe smoking issue

Re: [MBZ] MB "quality" vs the rest

2007-02-21 Thread ernest breakfield
tom, you *are* joking, aren't you? how far back do you consider "modern"? the lists of issues i know of with J**ps of my own and friends J**ps and ChryCo minivans would fill pages; fortunately, none of the J**ps were bought as sole daily drivers (but rather to use for what J**ps can be b

Re: [MBZ] Reserve Fuel Can

2007-02-21 Thread Jim Cathey
Seen the spare damaged on many wrecks in junkyards. All it takes is one little curb to damage a wheel, so you might want to rethink that. Curb rash? So what. Seen many crushed or broken spare wheels? -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] OT - PCs and Macs (was) Accents

2007-02-21 Thread Jim Cathey
You still have a NeXT machine? Which model? May I visit and be permitted to drool on it? A cube. Of course! It has a serious Y2K problem, and the OS upgrade was prohibitively priced for my needs at the time. So, it's just stuck in the 90's. The synthesized string engine in the DSP was truly

Re: [MBZ] Reserve Fuel Can

2007-02-21 Thread JFreezn
In a message dated 2/20/2007 4:10:40 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Many people have mentioned to me "dangers" of the reserve fuel can, without thinking about its location. Remember this can is designed to fit INSIDE a full size spare tire. Imagine the force it wo

Re: [MBZ] MB "quality" vs the rest

2007-02-21 Thread Tom Hargrave
Peter, I agree that this is serious & should not have happened but I also would say that it's not a "horrific build quality" issue that others accuse American car manufacturers of. And for the record, our last three new Chrysler products, a Dodge truck and two Jeeps have had zero manufacturing de

Re: [MBZ] OT - PCs and Macs (was) Accents

2007-02-21 Thread Peter Frederick
The Wallstreet is a wonderful machine -- mine is going strong, runs 10.2.8 with ease, but requires at least 512 MB RAM to load 10.4 (preferred). I actually usually run 9 on it, as I don't have a OS X version of Photoshop or Quark. Pretty quick for a 300 MHz machine and rock solid reliable wi

Re: [MBZ] MB "quality" vs the rest

2007-02-21 Thread Peter Frederick
GPS antenna grommet that didn't seal on a brand new Buick Lacrosse, dripped water all over the interior. Qualifies as build quality issue to me, bad design and known to be so, but shipped anyway for the dealer to fix when the customer complained. Peter

Re: [MBZ] OT - PCs and Macs (was) Accents

2007-02-21 Thread Ed Booher
On 2/20/07, Gary Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: why don't the rest have such a slot? Gary, Actually all of the G3 Powerbooks, before the change over to iBooks and TiBooks and etc had PCMCIA slots. The Kanga and Wallstreet had 2 The Lombard and Pismo had 1 The Kanga will *not* run OS X (off

Re: [MBZ] MB "quality" vs the rest

2007-02-21 Thread Tom Hargrave
What "horrific build quality"? I challenge you to go to a Ford, GM and Chrysler dealer and find any new car build quality issues & then report them, in detail, to this list! Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTE

Re: [MBZ] MB "quality" vs the rest

2007-02-21 Thread Tom Hargrave
The Chinese won't catch on - the government still considers Mr & Ms average no better than farm animals. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 9:13

[MBZ] FW: Today's Diesel Prices

2007-02-21 Thread Tom Hargrave
Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 2:15 PM To: Weekly Highway Diesel Prices Subject: Today's Diesel Prices ** ** ** ***

Re: [MBZ] this is a great deal

2007-02-21 Thread LT Don
Hello New Orleans or Pensacola. I think you can find the answers to all of your questions if you subscribe to BANNED on the Kaleb lists. On 2/20/07, Paul Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I was wondering if maybe someone can tell me, if I can fine tune my subscription to this list. -- I'm

Re: [MBZ] this is a great deal

2007-02-21 Thread Paul Nelson
Hey you all. I am fairly new to the group, and have been watching all you're posts. You all cover so many things here and I was wondering if maybe someone can tell me, if I can fine tune my subscription to this list. I have owned to w116's (450SEL) and am interested in that model. Is there a w

Re: [MBZ] OT - PCs and Macs (was) Accents

2007-02-21 Thread Gary Hurst
why don't the rest have such a slot? On 2/20/07, Ed Booher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 2/20/07, Ed Booher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 2/20/07, Gary Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > just a laptop with the mobile broadband. > > > > Ahh you want a Pismo. Can take up to 1GB of RAM, w

Re: [MBZ] OT - PCs and Macs (was) Accents

2007-02-21 Thread Ed Booher
On 2/20/07, Ed Booher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 2/20/07, Gary Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > just a laptop with the mobile broadband. > Ahh you want a Pismo. Can take up to 1GB of RAM, will run OS X (maybe not Leopard, no one is sure what is going to break with that yet) it has a si

Re: [MBZ] OT - PCs and Macs (was) Accents

2007-02-21 Thread Ed Booher
On 2/20/07, Gary Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: just a laptop with the mobile broadband. Ahh you want a Pismo. Can take up to 1GB of RAM, will run OS X (maybe not Leopard, no one is sure what is going to break with that yet) it has a single PC Card Slot and you can pick one up for about

Re: [MBZ] OT - PCs and Macs (was) Accents

2007-02-21 Thread Gary Hurst
just a laptop with the mobile broadband. On 2/20/07, Ed Booher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 2/20/07, Gary Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > it's hte os x that converted me instantly. i had seen the older mac os and > didn't see how it was any better than my windoze xp, outside of perhaps > b

Re: [MBZ] OT - PCs and Macs (was) Accents

2007-02-21 Thread Lee Einer
Peter Frederick wrote: > External media communication with the Mac is only a problem because the > vendors refuse to write the correct drivers, not because there is > anything inferior about the Mac. > > It's a pain, but then so is the fact that PC manufacturers ALWAYS > decide to use a differe

Re: [MBZ] OT - PCs and Macs (was) Accents

2007-02-21 Thread Gary Hurst
i have no idea. i don't know anything about computers. i do know that sometimes i don't see that disk thing on my desktop when i think i ought to. On 2/20/07, Lee Einer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Peter Frederick wrote: > External media communication with the Mac is only a problem because the

Re: [MBZ] OT - PCs and Macs (was) Accents

2007-02-21 Thread Ed Booher
On 2/20/07, Lee Einer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Peter Frederick wrote: > External media communication with the Mac is only a problem because the > vendors refuse to write the correct drivers, not because there is > anything inferior about the Mac. > And yet, the disc which the G4s could not dete

Re: [MBZ] OT - PCs and Macs (was) Accents

2007-02-21 Thread Gary Hurst
my favorite machine is my dual 500 gigabit ethernet machine. even though it is 6 years old and should be garbage, it can do anything i want AND it simply oozes quality out of every pore. it is probably the only machine i have ever opened up and didn't get pissed off at anything there. someday i

Re: [MBZ] OT - PCs and Macs (was) Accents

2007-02-21 Thread Ed Booher
On 2/20/07, Gary Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: it's hte os x that converted me instantly. i had seen the older mac os and didn't see how it was any better than my windoze xp, outside of perhaps being reliable. once the os x popped up, it was over. i just need a mac with a pcmcia card or equ

Re: [MBZ] OT - PCs and Macs (was) Accents

2007-02-21 Thread Lee Einer
Peter Frederick wrote: > External media communication with the Mac is only a problem because the > vendors refuse to write the correct drivers, not because there is > anything inferior about the Mac. > And yet, the disc which the G4s could not detect works flawlessly on my linux box at home. Cur

Re: [MBZ] OT - PCs and Macs (was) Accents

2007-02-21 Thread Gary Hurst
it's hte os x that converted me instantly. i had seen the older mac os and didn't see how it was any better than my windoze xp, outside of perhaps being reliable. once the os x popped up, it was over. i just need a mac with a pcmcia card or equivalent and i'll never look at a windoze machine ag

Re: [MBZ] old doorstops

2007-02-21 Thread RELNGSON
> < DecStation 5000/260 (the R4400 one!), DEC 3000/400, Sparc 20... Using an > old proliant 7000 as a server, have a REAL odd bird here thats acting as a > floor weight; a ALR designed Unisys box- 6 processor Pentium Pro with 1MB > cache CPU's (they are black aluminum, not ceramic). I also have a c

Re: [MBZ] OT - PCs and Macs (was) Accents

2007-02-21 Thread Peter Frederick
External media communication with the Mac is only a problem because the vendors refuse to write the correct drivers, not because there is anything inferior about the Mac. It's a pain, but then so is the fact that PC manufacturers ALWAYS decide to use a different spec of anything that Apple use

Re: [MBZ] OT - PCs and Macs (was) Accents

2007-02-21 Thread Peter Frederick
The only failure I've had with a Mac in the last ten years was a couple of hard drives and one ATX style power supply. Not what I can say for most if not all PC's I've used -- several dead boards, etc. Macs are top of the line, more like HP than Dell. Peter

Re: [MBZ] OT - PCs and Macs (was) Accents

2007-02-21 Thread Chuck Landenberger
On Feb 20, 2007, at 12:10 PM, Lee Einer wrote: <> I could build something a helluva lot better for far less. Lee Lee, Then do it! I think you have a good test market sitting out here on the list... Good luck, Chuck Phoenix AZ From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Feb 21 01:08:50 2007 Recei

Re: [MBZ] OT - PCs and Macs (was) Accents

2007-02-21 Thread Ed Booher
On 2/20/07, Lee Einer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: So, all the time I was using PCs I was hearing about Macs and thinking "damn, they must be good if they cost so freakin' much but I bet I could build something as good for less." I was wrong. I could build something a helluva lot better for far les

[MBZ] this hack job has been around once already

2007-02-21 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, Cox Auto Trader
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[MBZ] this is a great deal

2007-02-21 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, Cox Auto Trader
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