Re: [MBZ] $50 Paint Job

2007-07-08 Thread slozukimc
Did you ever think that just MAYBE the guy just doesn't have the money to shell out for a $3K paintjob on his old Corvair? Maybe he has plenty of time on his hands? I know I don't have that kind of cash at my disposal but I surely have the time if I want it... THAT, AND the fact that

Re: [MBZ] $50 Paint Job

2007-07-08 Thread slozukimc
I guess I'm not the only one that sees it that way;) I'd be proud as can be to say Hey look at the paintjob on my Corvair man...I did it in my driveway. Mike Andrew, It's because you want to do it and it's called pride and sweat equity Take care, Chuck On Jul 7,

Re: [MBZ] Our next vehicle (replacing the 2006 Dodge Ram Diesel

2007-07-08 Thread slozukimc
. I've taken the advice of another board member who said what happens if you're truck wasn't available or if you suddenly didn't want it anymore? He won't buy a larger travel trailer since it will require a Diesel to pull it, and this would make him the next one with the job to pull the boats

Re: [MBZ] 300D Dodge Dakota

2007-07-08 Thread slozukimc
Why is it that people who do things that DON'T require a 4wd will argue until they are blue in the face about why someone else doesn't need one? Mike Mitch is right in that I don't want a 2wd, but in driving my Dakota to Maine yesterday I'm thinking it might be hard to give up the 230hp V8.

Re: [MBZ] why you can't even in this day buy any domestic car unlessthe design and execution has been proven

2007-07-08 Thread Tony Wirtel
I followed some of the posts ad woes. One mentioned the 4 cylinder in a Vue grenading- isn't/wasn't this a corporate GM motor by this time? I remember test driving an early Saturn, and remarking to the sales guy that it was low on power, but at least it was noisy and coarse to make up for it.

Re: [MBZ] why you can't even in this day buy any domestic car unlessthe design and execution has been proven

2007-07-08 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
we want the details Gary Hurst wrote: it was stupid and a long story. i thought i was getting it for my mother. turns out i was getting it for me. the details are both dull and insane. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D,

Re: [MBZ] for the Texans on the list

2007-07-08 Thread Royce Engler
From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] I see Billy Gibbons driving a Benz around occasionally. He is one sharp-dressed man. --R Has he got a fine fox in front...and three mo in the back, sportin' short dresses, wearin' high heel shoes, smokin' lucky strikes and wearin' nylons too? Nah, I guess

[MBZ] 201 IP Leaks

2007-07-08 Thread Frederick Moir
The kid that bought my olde 190D '84 601 eng. 220k+ miles, has found a leak that seems to emanate from the IP. The side plate was missing a screw and the other 3 were hand tight only. The gasket was some kind of petrified rubber, so some careful application of red RTV cured that leak, however

Re: [MBZ] why you can't even in this day buy any domestic car unlessthe design and execution has been proven

2007-07-08 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On 7/8/07, Tony Wirtel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I remember test driving an early Saturn, and remarking to the sales guy that it was low on power, but at least it was noisy and coarse to make up for it. HA HA HA! Funny how many domestic four-cylinders that could apply to. Is Detroit ever

Re: [MBZ] 201 IP Leaks

2007-07-08 Thread Marshall Booth
Frederick Moir wrote: The kid that bought my olde 190D '84 601 eng. 220k+ miles, has found a leak that seems to emanate from the IP. The side plate was missing a screw and the other 3 were hand tight only. The gasket was some kind of petrified rubber, so some careful application of red RTV

[MBZ] radiator done blowed up

2007-07-08 Thread motikwa
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Re: [MBZ] $50 Paint Job

2007-07-08 Thread Zeitgeist
Didjaguyz check out his bodywork pages? Mad skillz http://www.rickwrench.com/corvairbodywork.html Casey __ '87 300TD intercooler/propane/biodiesel '94 100CSQ Avant '90 90Q '89 Bluestar ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For

[MBZ] Re 201 IP Leaks

2007-07-08 Thread Frederick Moir
Dr Marshall et al. I would have loved to get the correct gasket, only available from Bosch etc., however said kid had to go to his grandmothers place a hundred or so miles away and reducing the leak with red RTV was better than running out of oil in transit. Time will tell. Thanks for the

Re: [MBZ] $50 Paint Job

2007-07-08 Thread Robert Rentfro
That's the schizzle. It's amazing what you can do with the right tools and mad skillz... Bob R. Few tools...fewer skillz -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Zeitgeist Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 8:58 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject:

Re: [MBZ] why you can't even in this day buy any domestic car unlessthe design and execution has been proven

2007-07-08 Thread Gary Hurst
2.2 is GM. 1.9 is saturn. saturn was once independent, but now just another part of GM. GM had also tended to view saturn, opel and saab as one unit, so lots of eurotrash parts on my saturn. On 7/8/07, Tony Wirtel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I followed some of the posts ad woes. One mentioned

Re: [MBZ] why you can't even in this day buy any domestic car unlessthe design and execution has been proven

2007-07-08 Thread Gary Hurst
the 2.2 ecotec is the best 4 gm has ever made. the 2.2 that we've been talking about that the average timing chain lasts 50k miles and then blows you up . no, the US seems to not be interested in ever making a 4 worth of anything other than disposable econoboxes. On 7/8/07, Alex Chamberlain

Re: [MBZ] why you can't even in this day buy any domestic car unlessthe design and execution has been proven

2007-07-08 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On 7/8/07, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: GM had also tended to view saturn, opel and saab as one unit, so lots of eurotrash parts on my saturn. I think Eurotrash is a bit harsh. About Opel, maybe. But Saab was a great company until GM bought them in 1992. I tend to think of Saab and

Re: [MBZ] why you can't even in this day buy any domestic car unlessthe design and execution has been proven

2007-07-08 Thread Gary Hurst
my father died, leaving my mother an old crappy 4 cylinder taurus but lots of cash. i told her to just dump the taurus (which was cosmetically as new) for whatever she can get explaining to the buyer that it is a POS that she isn't willing to mess with. she got 1700 dollars for it. when she

Re: [MBZ] why you can't even in this day buy any domestic car unlessthe design and execution has been proven

2007-07-08 Thread Gary Hurst
it's funny that saab headquarters are here in atlanta as there is absolutely no saab presence here apart from the odd late model 9-3 convertible. when i lived in upstate new york, however, the 99s and 900s were THE cool country club rich kid car. the rich kid with the bmw was looked down upon

[MBZ] Bubbles in AC sight glass? 91 300D 2.5T

2007-07-08 Thread LarryT
Does the subject mean I have a leak? The AC stopped working this AM, then, started again this PM. I think it means air is in the system from a leak - correct? I have R12 BTW. Do any of the aftermarket substitutes work with safety? Thx -- Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D)

Re: [MBZ] why you can't even in this day buy any domestic carunlessthe design and execution has been proven

2007-07-08 Thread LarryT
The subject talks about buying a domestic car - my experience has been positive over the last few years. My Mom and M-I-L both lived with us as we provided them Hospice and both brought cars they valued for us to have. One was a 92 Olds 98 with 3.8 V6 and other was a 97 Chrysler Concord w/3.5

Re: [MBZ] Bubbles in AC sight glass? 91 300D 2.5T

2007-07-08 Thread Jim Cathey
Does the subject mean I have a leak? Yes. I think it means air is in the system from a leak - correct? No. It just means that there's no longer enough refrigerant to provide a liquid feed to the evaporator. I have R12 BTW. Do any of the aftermarket substitutes work with safety? I

Re: [MBZ] 201 IP Leaks

2007-07-08 Thread Jim Cathey
bottom plate appears to leak also. Question, can the bottom plate be removed in situ or must the IP be removed first? If you can reach all the screws, you can replace the gasket. Said gasket resembles an O-ring, but is not. -- Jim ___

Re: [MBZ] Bubbles in AC sight glass? 91 300D 2.5T

2007-07-08 Thread John Robbins
Jim Cathey wrote: I have R12 BTW. Do any of the aftermarket substitutes work with safety? I believe so, yes. Others will disagree, particularly those with a vested interest in maintaining an effective monopoly on AC servicing. The substitutes will work, but they have advantages and

[MBZ] Big City Big Time Car

2007-07-08 Thread Zoltan Finks
I remember asking you guys about a V12 Benz I saw in Minneapolis some time ago - an S600. You told me it was legit. I saw another one last evening in Seattle, but this one was a coupe. And it may have had a manual tranny. (may have) See, it was stopped on a steep hill and rolled back maybe a foot

[MBZ] Removing 124 fuel tank

2007-07-08 Thread ned kleinhenz
I'm still trying to get the algae sludge out of the fuel tank of my '95 E300D. Last time I tried to remove the tank, I removed the two fuel hoses and filter from the bottom. Then I removed the filler neck and level gauge stuff from top, and removed the four bolts around the perimeter of the tank,

Re: [MBZ] Big City Big Time Car

2007-07-08 Thread Rich Thomas
The coupe was a CL600, a nice ride. Also the CL65 and new CL63, something like 600HP 500ftlb torque. Makes Porsche's piddle at the stop light. --R Zoltan Finks wrote: I remember asking you guys about a V12 Benz I saw in Minneapolis some time ago - an S600. You told me it was legit. I saw

[MBZ] Road Trip Troubles -- Suggestions?

2007-07-08 Thread Rich Thomas
Took the new 84 300SD turbo on a road trip Houston -- KY -- Philadelphia. Car was working fine before, but on the road would not get beyond 75-80 @ 3400rpm or so, on the flats, and any hill it would rapidly drop off speed. (I assume this car is designed to go faster and at higher RPMs). Also

Re: [MBZ] Road Trip Troubles -- Suggestions?

2007-07-08 Thread John Freer
On 7/8/07, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Took the new 84 300SD turbo on a road trip Houston -- KY -- Philadelphia. Car was working fine before, but on the road would not get beyond 75-80 @ 3400rpm or so, on the flats, and any hill it would rapidly drop off speed. (I assume this car is

Re: [MBZ] Big City Big Time Car

2007-07-08 Thread Zoltan Finks
Coincidentally, PBS is showing a program on Porsche right now. Brian On 7/8/07, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The coupe was a CL600, a nice ride. Also the CL65 and new CL63, something like 600HP 500ftlb torque. Makes Porsche's piddle at the stop light. --R Zoltan Finks wrote: I

Re: [MBZ] Road Trip Troubles -- Suggestions?

2007-07-08 Thread Marshall Booth
What you describe is precisely what happens when the pressure line from the intake manifold to the ALDA (fuel enrichment device atop the injection pump) becomes clogged with soot/oil slurry. Along with the reduced power (like a non-turbocharged car) shifting is also affected. The most usual

Re: [MBZ] 201 IP Leaks

2007-07-08 Thread Frederick Moir
Jim C. Ta very much. If memory serves, the oil filter o-ring is the same size? Fred Moir Lynn MA Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: bottom plate appears to leak also. Question, can the bottom plate be removed in situ or must the IP be removed first? If you can reach all the screws, you can

Re: [MBZ] 201 IP Leaks

2007-07-08 Thread Zeitgeist
The OM617 oil filter o-ring apparently will only work on OM603 pumps--sorry. On 7/8/07, Frederick Moir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jim C. Ta very much. If memory serves, the oil filter o-ring is the same size? Casey __ '87 300TD

Re: [MBZ] Road Trip Troubles -- Suggestions?

2007-07-08 Thread Rich Thomas
Thanks much. I will need to walk my son through this repair (he is new to the car and to repairs in general), and my familiarity with this car is minimal (and it is not where I am). We have the maint manual CDs -- is there a section on this or can you be specific about where the line

Re: [MBZ] 201 IP Leaks

2007-07-08 Thread Frederick Moir
The Mighty Casey struck me out! Ta very much. Fred Moir Lynn MA 190DT 300TD Zeitgeist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The OM617 oil filter o-ring apparently will only work on OM603 pumps--sorry. On 7/8/07, Frederick Moir wrote: Jim C. Ta very much. If memory serves, the oil filter o-ring is the

Re: [MBZ] Big City Big Time Car

2007-07-08 Thread E M
It wouldn't. A lot of the AMG are big thumping engines, in be boat cars. Hey I love them, but if you're talking about performance, a big boat can only go around corners and stop so fast. Besides, I think even with the optional AMG ecu in Europe, the big ones are still topped out at 300 kph. The

Re: [MBZ] Road Trip Troubles -- Suggestions?

2007-07-08 Thread Jim Cathey
Would this problem come on suddenly like that? I guess I could see it happening if it had a clog of some sort, like plaque in your artery. Plaque or crack, either could be sudden! Sounds very much like a severe power loss, I've experienced such a few times. (Ford F250, MB 250C, MB 240D.

Re: [MBZ] 201 IP Leaks

2007-07-08 Thread Jim Cathey
The OM617 oil filter o-ring apparently will only work on OM603 pumps--sorry. Will let you know how my 602's turns out, I made a 1 french-cut green bean and superglued the remainder back together. If you _can_ do yours from the bottom you could try that yourself. Maybe make two 'beans' for a

Re: [MBZ] why you can't even in this day buy any domestic car unlessthe design and execution has been proven

2007-07-08 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
now THAT was in interesting story, thanks for sharing. Gary Hurst wrote: my father died, leaving my mother an old crappy 4 cylinder taurus but lots of cash. i told her to just dump the taurus (which was cosmetically as new) for whatever she can get explaining to the buyer that it is a POS

Re: [MBZ] Bubbles in AC sight glass? 91 300D 2.5T

2007-07-08 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I just bought 2 cases of R134 for 3.50 a can. John Robbins wrote: Jim Cathey wrote: I have R12 BTW. Do any of the aftermarket substitutes work with safety? I believe so, yes. Others will disagree, particularly those with a vested interest in maintaining an effective monopoly on AC

Re: [MBZ] why you can't even in this day buy any domestic car unlessthe design and execution has been proven

2007-07-08 Thread Gary Hurst
only because you insisted. i'd accuse of you being sarcastic, but i think you might actually be sincere here, although it's not an interesting story at all. On 7/8/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: now THAT was in interesting story, thanks for sharing. Gary Hurst wrote: my

Re: [MBZ] why you can't even in this day buy any domestic carunlessthe design and execution has been proven

2007-07-08 Thread Gary Hurst
3800 V6 is an absolutely proven design and can be purchased without hesitation. as teh average customer for a buick park avenue is 104 years old, however, few people really know this. i haven't followed chrysler products since the early 90s. ask me K car stuff and i can tell you. On 7/8/07,

Re: [MBZ] why you can't even in this day buy any domestic car unlessthe design and execution has been proven

2007-07-08 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I find all of your stories interesting. Gary Hurst wrote: only because you insisted. i'd accuse of you being sarcastic, but i think you might actually be sincere here, although it's not an interesting story at all. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92

Re: [MBZ] why you can't even in this day buy any domestic carunlessthe design and execution has been proven

2007-07-08 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
yes, that engine is near bullet proof Gary Hurst wrote: 3800 V6 is an absolutely proven design and can be purchased without hesitation. as teh average customer for a buick park avenue is 104 years old, however, few people really know this. i haven't followed chrysler products since the

Re: [MBZ] why you can't even in this day buy any domestic carunlessthe design and execution has been proven

2007-07-08 Thread Kevin Kraly
the 2.2 ecotec is the best 4 gm has ever made. My Parents' little HHR has the 2.4L Ecotec engine in it, hopefully as robust as the 2.2L version. It puts out 174hp, not a rocket by any means. Kevin in Portland, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula ___

Re: [MBZ] Bubbles in AC sight glass? 91 300D 2.5T

2007-07-08 Thread LarryT
Thx John (and Jim C), Youy wrote:three cans on ebay for about $15 a can - is that the R12? Or a R12 substitute? Sounds like it's time to get my EPA609 certification to buy - Thanks! Now, I must decide if I want to risk blending the coolants ;-) Thanks again! Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78

Re: [MBZ] why you can't even in this day buy any domesticcarunlessthe design and execution has been proven

2007-07-08 Thread Kevin Kraly
as the average customer for a buick park avenue is 104 years old, however, few people really know this. A friend of mine in his late 40's used to sell Buicks, and he had a Park Avenue Ultra for a while. He did believe in the 3.8L engine. He had a '92 Century that had some other V6 (3.3L

[MBZ] 2007 Porsche 356 Bull Session in Bothell WA

2007-07-08 Thread RELNGSON
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[MBZ] OT: For MI-ers: THE MIGHTY MAC -- Our bridge at 50

2007-07-08 Thread Craig McCluskey
http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070708/NEWS06/707080576 Benz content: I've heard of non-Detroit cars being vandalized in Michigan just because they aren't from Detriot. Is this true? Thanks, Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts

Re: [MBZ] why you can't even in this day buy any domesticcarunlessthe design and execution has been proven

2007-07-08 Thread LWB250
The 3.8l V-6 is the M617 of the GM world. It's built like a brick doghouse, and can be run into the ground. Dan --- Kevin Kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: as the average customer for a buick park avenue is 104 years old, however, few people really know this. A friend of mine in his late

Re: [MBZ] OT: For MI-ers: THE MIGHTY MAC -- Our bridge at 50

2007-07-08 Thread Lee Einer
. The question is, if you wanted to trash vehicles that were not built in the good old USA, which cars WOULDN'T you target? Lee Craig McCluskey wrote: http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070708/NEWS06/707080576 Benz content: I've heard of non-Detroit cars being vandalized

Re: [MBZ] Bubbles in AC sight glass? 91 300D 2.5T

2007-07-08 Thread John Robbins
LarryT wrote: Thx John (and Jim C), Youy wrote:three cans on ebay for about $15 a can - is that the R12? Or a R12 substitute? Genuine R12. :) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts

Re: [MBZ] Big City Big Time Car

2007-07-08 Thread Zoltan Finks
True, but I was referring to the little two-seater. That's what inspired my question. And yes, the AMG Hammer. I remember hearing about that car years ago on TV. Forget what show - not really a car-related show, just some show about incredible things. It said it was the fastest production car in

Re: [MBZ] Our next vehicle (replacing the 2006 Dodge Ram Diesel

2007-07-08 Thread Kevin Kraly
Great points, Mike. Wifey and I do feel the same way and don't want ourselves or our truck to be involved with EVERY transport just because it's big and powerful enough. The board member previously discussed does help with his truck since the gear is more than even a long bed pickup can

Re: [MBZ] why you can't even in this day buy any domesticcarunlessthe design and execution has been proven

2007-07-08 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
so is the 5.7 350 v8 LWB250 wrote: The 3.8l V-6 is the M617 of the GM world. It's built like a brick doghouse, and can be run into the ground. Dan -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87

Re: [MBZ] Big City Big Time Car

2007-07-08 Thread E M
I think the car you're referring to in AMG guise has a 5.5 litre engine, but unblown if I remember. They say it's a big improvement over the car it replaces, and better than a Boxster, in so much as quicker off the line. I think Mercedes tune their cars more towards the GT side while Porsche

Re: [MBZ] Big City Big Time Car

2007-07-08 Thread Mitch Haley
E M wrote: The SLR is a nice car, and I've seen several. It's pretty limited production, and if you put it up against a Porsche CGT, my money would still be on the Porsche, even though you would probably have to be a better driver to wring the last bit out of the porsche. A lot of

Re: [MBZ] Road Trip Troubles -- Suggestions?

2007-07-08 Thread Robert Rentfro
And all of God's Mercedes drivers said...AMEN! Bob R. Wanting to touch the hem of Herr Doktor's Knowledge Garment. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marshall Booth Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 1:29 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List

Re: [MBZ] Our next vehicle (replacing the 2006 Dodge Ram Diesel

2007-07-08 Thread Mitch Haley
What would it cost for the club to rent a tow vehicle on race weekend? Surely less than the cost of somebody owning a late model large truck. Sprinters are nice, but I'm not sure if they are worth the money. Wasn't that long ago you could get a 2006 Caravan for about 13k new, I wonder if they've

Re: [MBZ] Big City Big Time Car

2007-07-08 Thread Mitch Haley
Zoltan Finks wrote: And yes, the AMG Hammer. Anybody remember what Alain sold his Hammer for when he moved his shop? Seems like it was 4 digits. I remember being tempted, might have done it if he was closer to me. The Hammer engine was either missing or irreparably busted, but if I had a

[MBZ] columbus CL benz

2007-07-08 Thread Sunil Hari
http://columbus.craigslist.org/car/369367524.html no affiliation, association, etc. -- Sunil Hari 1992 300D 2.5T - 290Kmi - for sale [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor:

Re: [MBZ] Big City Big Time Car / manny tranny wagons

2007-07-08 Thread tom savage
E M wrote: I dont' think the big AMG W140 coupe ever came with a manual, unless it was a special order thing. Even then, I've never seen or heard of one. Gas six-cylinder w140s did exist with a stick elsewhere in the world. My understanding is that they're so rare as to basically not exist,

Re: [MBZ] Road Trip Troubles -- Suggestions?

2007-07-08 Thread JFreezn
In a message dated 7/8/2007 1:07:28 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Any ideas? I think something like this might have been recently discussed, but since I did not have turbo then, I did not pay a lot of attention. I have a feeling it is some vac problem, but

[MBZ] CIS rebuild kit

2007-07-08 Thread Trampas
Does anyone know if you can buy a rebuild kit for a CIS unit? I have narrowed down the slight miss at idle on my 560SEL to a cylinder not getting fuel at idle. Trampas ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor:

Re: [MBZ] CIS rebuild kit

2007-07-08 Thread Peter Frederick
No kits that I know of, alas. Change the injector and line first! Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] Our next vehicle (replacing the 2006 Dodge Ram Diesel

2007-07-08 Thread Kevin Kraly
What would it cost for the club to rent a tow vehicle on race weekend? Surely less than the cost of somebody owning a late model large truck. This is true, and exactly what happened this last time. They rented a truck with a 16' box on it that also served as the boat transporter. It did the

Re: [MBZ] CIS rebuild kit

2007-07-08 Thread Hendrik Riessen
What excactly are you after? Rebuild the distributor? If you know which cylinder is bad then you can swap injectors with another cylinder to see if it is the injector. - Original Message - From: Trampas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday,

Re: [MBZ] Our next vehicle (replacing the 2006 Dodge Ram Diesel

2007-07-08 Thread slozukimc
I don't know what the rated towing capacity for a Grand Caravan is but I know for a fact that my friend Rick put many miles on his 90 pulling a 17 foot utility/car trailer hauling his '25 Model T Delivery with no problem at all. He would just leave the OD off and take it easy.I can't

Re: [MBZ] Our next vehicle (replacing the 2006 Dodge Ram Diesel

2007-07-08 Thread Kevin Kraly
Once again, great points! I can't imagine the boat weighing more than that Model T. Do you know which engine he had in it? Oh, I just remembered that the caravans equipped with the 3.0 Mitsu engine came with a 3 speed auto W/O OD behind it, and you mentioned that his van had OD indicating

Re: [MBZ] why you can't even in this day buy any domestic carunlessthe design and execution has been proven

2007-07-08 Thread Gary Hurst
to my mind, 174hp out of 2.4 liter naturally aspirated motor with a lot of torque is A ROCKET by any means. On 7/8/07, Kevin Kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the 2.2 ecotec is the best 4 gm has ever made. My Parents' little HHR has the 2.4L Ecotec engine in it, hopefully as robust as the 2.2L

Re: [MBZ] Our next vehicle (replacing the 2006 Dodge Ram Diesel

2007-07-08 Thread slozukimc
Yes it was the 3.3 with OD. He figured out that when the tranny get's a little wierd shifting to go to the PnP and get a new electric shift box for it and away you go without a typically not needed tranny rebuild Mike Once again, great points! I can't imagine the boat weighing more

Re: [MBZ] OT: For MI-ers: THE MIGHTY MAC -- Our bridge at 50

2007-07-08 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sun, 08 Jul 2007 16:58:35 -0600 Lee Einer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The question is, if you wanted to trash vehicles that were not built in the good old USA, which cars WOULDN'T you target? Good point. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see

Re: [MBZ] Big City Big Time Car

2007-07-08 Thread E M
On 08/07/07, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: E M wrote: The SLR is a nice car, and I've seen several. It's pretty limited production, and if you put it up against a Porsche CGT, my money would still be on the Porsche, even though you would probably have to be a better driver to

Re: [MBZ] why you can't even in this day buy any domesticcarunlessthe design and execution has been proven

2007-07-08 Thread Kevin Kraly
to my mind, 174hp out of 2.4 liter naturally aspirated motor with a lot of torque is A ROCKET by any means. Well, I guess it's because I haven't driven it to see what it could actually do (blind people can't drive, stupid law! -:). Mama doesn't really put her foot into it no matter how much I

Re: [MBZ] Big City Big Time Car

2007-07-08 Thread E M
I've heard the CGT is a hard car at the limit, and also a hard car to lanch, although most don't do it right. Only crashed CGT's I've seen pics of have been on the track, while most Enzos seem to meet their end on the road. I try to live by the rule, Let them think I'm better than I am, than

Re: [MBZ] why you can't even in this day buy anydomesticcarunlessthe design and execution has been proven

2007-07-08 Thread Rick Knoble
to my mind, 174hp out of 2.4 liter naturally aspirated motor with a lot of torque is A ROCKET by any means. Anything more than 1 horsepower per cubic inch used to be the standard for performance cars and that was before net hp figures. 2.4 liters is 145 or so cubic inches so that IS pretty

Re: [MBZ] Big City Big Time Car

2007-07-08 Thread E M
I don't know if any of the old AMG stuff is suported by mercedes or AMG as we now know it. I don't know if it would be worth restoring an old Hammer as so many of todays AMG models will equal or better the performance. Maybe you should pick up an old W124 E500. Nice flared fenders, and I

Re: [MBZ] why you can't even in this day buy any domesticcarunlessthe design and execution has been proven

2007-07-08 Thread Mitch Haley
Gary Hurst wrote: to my mind, 174hp out of 2.4 liter naturally aspirated motor with a lot of torque is A ROCKET by any means. Beats my Cosworth tuned 2.3L 190E by 7hp. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor:

Re: [MBZ] Road Trip Troubles -- Suggestions?

2007-07-08 Thread Tony Wirtel
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Road Trip Troubles -- Suggestions? If not mentioned before- WHERE is the car- Philly was mentioned, I think? Perhaps a lister is nearby and might be in a position to lend a 'hands on'... Tony Wirtel ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new

[MBZ] OT: Have you seen these TV ads

2007-07-08 Thread Chuck Landenberger
Hi guys. There's a Citi (bank) ad that shows a MB 190SL owned by a waitress and two guys talking about how to invest or sumpin' like that She chases the kid away from her car..Sorta' cute. And.. Does anybody believe the Lexus IS ad with the ball bearing rolling around,

Re: [MBZ] $50 Paint Job

2007-07-08 Thread Wonko the Sane
ME? I've found a color of Ace Hardware rust preventer spray paint that is a perfect match for my car's factory color. It is almost like it was brewed to factory specs. On 7/8/07, Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's the schizzle. It's amazing what you can do with the right tools

Re: [MBZ] OT: Have you seen these TV ads

2007-07-08 Thread Wonko the Sane
I've seen the commercial. What they don't say is that she bought the SL from Kaleb on eBay, drove it to work a few years ago to show it off to her co-workers, and the engine seized. There is NOTHING in the commercial to suggest that the car actually runs, just that it is hers. On 7/8/07, Chuck

Re: [MBZ] why you can't even in this day buy anydomesticcarunlessthe design and execution has been proven

2007-07-08 Thread Tom Hargrave
I used to play with Chrysler 2.2 liter cars one of the cars I owned was a 89 Lebaron Coupe GTC. The intercooled Turbo II engine was factory rated at 174 HP. Fortunately, I live in Huntsville AL, where the brains were designed and manufactured. I knew the software guys got a off road only

Re: [MBZ] 87 124 pdfs needed

2007-07-08 Thread Loren Faeth
I got it working. Not sure what was the cause. I checked out everything, and everything checked out, and the last time I put humpty together, the compressor turned. Put 134a in it and we have somewhat cool. (the best you can expect with 134a crap.) I suspect Jim C was right, something with

Re: [MBZ] OT: Have you seen these TV ads

2007-07-08 Thread Chuck Landenberger
And she oughta' sell it to the lawyers as a classic... On Jul 8, 2007, at 7:28 PM, Wonko the Sane wrote: I've seen the commercial. What they don't say is that she bought the SL from Kaleb on eBay, drove it to work a few years ago to show it off to her co-workers, and the engine seized.

Re: [MBZ] why you can't even in this day buy any domesticcarunlessthe design and execution has been proven

2007-07-08 Thread Gary Hurst
which people here would tell you was really powerful. because it's a mercedes. but more horsepower in a a chevy of similar size is weak. because it's a chevy . get it? On 7/8/07, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gary Hurst wrote: to my mind, 174hp out of 2.4 liter naturally

Re: [MBZ] why you can't even in this day buy any domesticcarunlessthe design and execution has been proven

2007-07-08 Thread Tom Hargrave
Kevin, Since you mentioned the fact that blind people can't drive it's a stupid law then why do many drive up ATM's have Braille imprinted on their keypads? Here's another one, but not blind related. Wal-Mart sells a product in their pet department called breeding grass. It's an artificial

Re: [MBZ] Road Trip Troubles -- Suggestions?

2007-07-08 Thread Rich Thomas
Yeah, the car is now in PHL area -- this is a good experience for the new owner, I think we can figure it out as it appears to be a rather simple fix. He is going to take some piccies, my neighbor has a car for me to look at, I can direct him from here with the piccies and maint manual, so we

Re: [MBZ] why you can't even in this day buy any domesticcarunlessthe design and execution has been proven

2007-07-08 Thread Tom Hargrave
Got it, I think. Posing is as important as power? Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Hurst Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 9:44 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] why you

Re: [MBZ] why you can't even in this day buy any domesticcarunlessthe design and execution has been proven

2007-07-08 Thread Rich Thomas
And the doors at the grocery say No dogs except for seeing eye dogs. Think about it. --R Tom Hargrave wrote: Kevin, Since you mentioned the fact that blind people can't drive it's a stupid law then why do many drive up ATM's have Braille imprinted on their keypads? Here's another one,

Re: [MBZ] Our next vehicle (replacing the 2006 Dodge Ram Diesel

2007-07-08 Thread Tom Hargrave
The 3.0 liter Mitsu engines suffered from premature valve guide wear due to improper valve train geometry and many were repaired under a quit recall. Back then if you brought in a smoking minivan with less than 90,000 miles and you were the original owner, Chrysler fixed the issue - no questions

Re: [MBZ] why you can't even in this day buy any domesticcarunlessthe design and execution has been proven

2007-07-08 Thread Gary Hurst
i always bring my dog into those places On 7/8/07, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And the doors at the grocery say No dogs except for seeing eye dogs. Think about it. --R Tom Hargrave wrote: Kevin, Since you mentioned the fact that blind people can't drive it's a stupid law

Re: [MBZ] OT: Have you seen these TV ads

2007-07-08 Thread Wonko the Sane
A classic? I'd love to have it in my garage! On 7/8/07, Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And she oughta' sell it to the lawyers as a classic... On Jul 8, 2007, at 7:28 PM, Wonko the Sane wrote: I've seen the commercial. What they don't say is that she bought the SL from

Re: [MBZ] OT: Have you seen these TV ads

2007-07-08 Thread Chuck Landenberger
Don, But you said that it didn't run!!! Just wait till I need a PPI... Take care ... [::) Chuck On Jul 8, 2007, at 7:55 PM, Wonko the Sane wrote: A classic? I'd love to have it in my garage! On 7/8/07, Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And she oughta' sell

Re: [MBZ] CIS rebuild kit

2007-07-08 Thread Tom Hargrave
From my experience, your issue is more likely a worn out injector. They are just mechanical poppet valves the spray pattern suffer badly at idle, where the least fuel flows. In case you did not already know, the fuel distributor does not act like a diesel distributor, where pulses are sent to

Re: [MBZ] CIS rebuild kit

2007-07-08 Thread E M
I don't think you can get a kit as the pin is matched to the bore, and it's a real percision fit. I looked for one a few years back for my 911 and I was told Bosch will wait for a number or cores before they rebuild, so even if you fork out the money, you may have to wait. All the problem was in

Re: [MBZ] CIS rebuild kit

2007-07-08 Thread E M
I use to put the injector in a clean plastic water bottle and life the float and watch it spray. Not with the engine running of course. Careful, you are dealing with raw fuel, and with a CIS it's under a LOT of pressure!! CIS is Continous Injection System. Simple and durable system. I think

Re: [MBZ] OT: Have you seen these TV ads

2007-07-08 Thread Wonko the Sane
A naive assumption. Maybe she got it cheap on eBay. Car is hot. Waitress is hotter. Showing my age. On 7/8/07, Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don, But you said that it didn't run!!! Just wait till I need a PPI... Take care ... [::) Chuck On Jul 8, 2007,

Re: [MBZ] OT: Have you seen these TV ads

2007-07-08 Thread Zoltan Finks
Yep. Saw that commercial. Reminds me of the Caddilac commercial that shows four young studly business men riding around in a silver Caddy. They pull up to a diner and meet four distinguished gentlemen in a black colored one. They all look eachother up and down. And the announcer says something

Re: [MBZ] OT: Have you seen these TV ads

2007-07-08 Thread Tom Hargrave
I saw the ad I agree with your assessment. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wonko the Sane Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 10:17 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Have

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