Re: [MBZ] W115 Clock Repair

2007-08-07 Thread Redghost
Leave the bezel alone.  Unless it is the steel body back there should  
be two screws that allow the back to be slipped off.  Even the steel  
back has a way inside.

Bring it over to my hut and we can figure out how to fix it.  I have  
done a few clocks on my dining table.  Or tell me where to go and I  
will help you.  You are still a Seattle lister, aincha?

clay


On 7 Aug 2007, at 18:34, B Dike wrote:

> All,
>
> I'm still trying to figure out how to repair the clock in the 74  
> 240D.  The case is a very solid one piece enclosed stamping and the  
> bezel is swaged on.  Any suggestions on how to get at the innards  
> without resorting to the Dremel cutting wheel?  Anyone have a  
> working clock to spare?
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Bruce
> 82 300CD 348kmi 'His'
> 85 300CD 253kmi 'Hers'
> 75 240D 202kmi 'Donner'
> 77 240D 204kmi 'Blitzen' gone to a better place
> 74 240D 79kmi 'Orangewagen'
> 73 220D 'Fnu Lnu'
>
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Re: [MBZ] W115 Clock Repair

2007-08-07 Thread Jim Cathey
> I'm still trying to figure out how to repair the clock in the 74 240D. 
>  The case is a very solid one piece enclosed stamping and the bezel is 
> swaged on.  Any suggestions on how to get at the innards without 
> resorting to the Dremel cutting wheel?  Anyone have a working clock to 
> spare?

As I have asked before, FIRST you need to tell us, definitively, whether
your clock is mechanical or electronic.

* They look the same from the face, except one says Quartz on it
* They're VERY different inside
* How you open them depends VASTLY on which one it is.

The quartz one needs the face un-swaged.  That's great fun, especially
since you have to be careful so that you can put it back and have it
still look good.  I have fixed them before, it takes me a couple of 
hours.
The mechanical one is easy, the back cover is held on with three nuts,
one of them hidden behind a tamper-proof cap.

-- Jim


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[MBZ] Key Won't Turn Replies

2007-08-07 Thread johnvi


    Thank you Allan, Mitch, Brian, and Tom for your information and  
suggestions about key lock removal.  I did think about the keyless car  
problem so I may take a day or two and talk to Rusty about the parts.   
I have another car so I am not stranded.  I may also remove the  
battery. 

   Thank you for your help.

   John Ingram
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Re: [MBZ] Fords fuel mileage

2007-08-07 Thread John Robbins
OK Don wrote:
> My Dad's 1999 Ranger 2.5, 5 speed standard, bare basic truck gets
> 21mpg at 75 mph, empty, and can barely keep 75 up the Oklahoma hills.
> I don't know if this is typical or not.

I've got a 95 Mazda B2300 (2.3L Ranger) with 5 speed and it can barely 
do 75 up hills.  I shift into 4th to maintain speed on any respectable 
hill.  The odometer quit at 190k about two years ago, but before that I 
got about 19-23 highway MPG depending on how I drove it. In town is 
17-20.  I once got 12mpg when I was towing a trailer (empty!!!) at 
75mph.  The reason I got 12 is that the trailer was so heavy I couldn't 
maintain speed in 5th AT ALL.  So had to use 4th  Mileage was better 
with it loaded (14' utility trailer with books & furniture) since I went 
70.

If you need a truck to abuse though... I HIGHLY recommend them.  They 
are also dirt cheap.  The A/C is nothing short of fantastic.

I've got an OM617 & tranny in the bed of mine at the moment :)

John

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Re: [MBZ] 3 litre gasser??

2007-08-07 Thread OK Don
True, but you're missing the point that Ed wants to standardize on one
engine to maintain. I've thought of doing that myself, but never seem
to be able to get there.

On 8/7/07, Hendrik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yeah I second that, the 420 is a very good engine and you'll find that
> fuel consumption is not that much different, especially on the highway.
> My pay you to test drive both models and take it from there.
>

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Re: [MBZ] Fords fuel mileage

2007-08-07 Thread OK Don
My Dad's 1999 Ranger 2.5, 5 speed standard, bare basic truck gets
21mpg at 75 mph, empty, and can barely keep 75 up the Oklahoma hills.
I don't know if this is typical or not.
It is definitely a Frod though 

On 8/7/07, Robert Bigham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Indeed they do, and have ever since Model A days.  Old V8's
> have their problems with oil consumption.
>
> I had a new 1963 Ford w/352 engine that got 7 mpg at first.
> I thought I would have to get rid of it if that was what it was
> going to do.
>
> I have a 1976 pickup with 460 engine that gets 10 to 11 mpg loaded or empty.
>
> Frods do indeed drink fuel.
>


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Re: [MBZ] 3 litre gasser??

2007-08-07 Thread Hendrik
Yeah I second that, the 420 is a very good engine and you'll find that 
fuel consumption is not that much different, especially on the highway.
My pay you to test drive both models and take it from there.

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
> If you want alot more power, go with a 420, which I happen to have one 
> for sale, very nice, and VERY cheap.
>
> OK Don wrote:
>   
>> Last I heard, Donald Snook had his 126 300SE for sale ---
>>
>> On 8/7/07, E M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>>> Thanks guys.
>>>
>>> Ed
>>> 300E
>>>   
>> 
>
>   

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Re: [MBZ] Fords fuel mileage

2007-08-07 Thread Robert Bigham

Indeed they do, and have ever since Model A days.  Old V8's
have their problems with oil consumption. 

I had a new 1963 Ford w/352 engine that got 7 mpg at first.  
I thought I would have to get rid of it if that was what it was 
going to do.

I have a 1976 pickup with 460 engine that gets 10 to 11 mpg loaded or empty.

Frods do indeed drink fuel.





>Subject: Re: [MBZ] GM 6.5L Diesel
>  wrote:
> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
> Frods drink fuel
>
> ---
> Kaleb C. Striplin
> Cox Auto Trader
> 730 PP Supervisor




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Re: [MBZ] W115 Clock Repair

2007-08-07 Thread LWB250
Someone have Jim Mahaffey's e-mail address?  He's the
MB clock guru.

He's on faculty at Georgia Tech, I believe.

Dan



--- B Dike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> All,
> 
> I'm still trying to figure out how to repair the
> clock in the 74 240D.  The case is a very solid one
> piece enclosed stamping and the bezel is swaged on. 
> Any suggestions on how to get at the innards without
> resorting to the Dremel cutting wheel?  Anyone have
> a working clock to spare?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 
> 
> Bruce
> 82 300CD 348kmi 'His'
> 85 300CD 253kmi 'Hers'
> 75 240D 202kmi 'Donner'
> 77 240D 204kmi 'Blitzen' gone to a better place
> 74 240D 79kmi 'Orangewagen'
> 73 220D 'Fnu Lnu'
>
> -
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[MBZ] W115 Clock Repair

2007-08-07 Thread B Dike
All,

I'm still trying to figure out how to repair the clock in the 74 240D.  The 
case is a very solid one piece enclosed stamping and the bezel is swaged on.  
Any suggestions on how to get at the innards without resorting to the Dremel 
cutting wheel?  Anyone have a working clock to spare?

Thanks,



Bruce
82 300CD 348kmi 'His'
85 300CD 253kmi 'Hers'
75 240D 202kmi 'Donner'
77 240D 204kmi 'Blitzen' gone to a better place
74 240D 79kmi 'Orangewagen'
73 220D 'Fnu Lnu'
   
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[MBZ] O/T Truck Diesels

2007-08-07 Thread Peter T . Arnold
I've driven my '95 F-250 Auto/2WD almost 200Kmi.

Facts:  Empty it get 20mpg.  I drive it like I hate it @75mph if I
can.

Towing 12,000# 5th wheel about 10mpg at 70 mph if I can.

Big Ticket repairs to date;
New Turbo about $3000 on warrantee

New wiring to heads last month, $1800

Misc Front end work, $2000

I did my own water pump, glow plugs.

Starts at -10, no problem.

So noisy they shouldn't install a radio!

It's a beast, I love it.


--

Regards,

Peter T. Arnold

2007 HHR, 2.4L/Auto, LT2, 12Kmi, No problems!
1987 300SDL  280KMI  Inherited by Grandson
1995 F-250 PowerChoke  199Kmi
1954 Metropolitan Convertible, Hanger Queen
Wife has a Cruizer, 80 Kmi, as reliable as an Ice Box, the car that is!

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Re: [MBZ] 3 litre gasser??

2007-08-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
If you want alot more power, go with a 420, which I happen to have one 
for sale, very nice, and VERY cheap.

OK Don wrote:
> Last I heard, Donald Snook had his 126 300SE for sale ---
> 
> On 8/7/07, E M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Thanks guys.
>>
>> Ed
>> 300E
> 
> 

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  90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 87 300TD, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro,
  81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] 3 litre gasser??

2007-08-07 Thread OK Don
Last I heard, Donald Snook had his 126 300SE for sale ---

On 8/7/07, E M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thanks guys.
>
> Ed
> 300E


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Re: [MBZ] OT Isuzu NPR

2007-08-07 Thread Kevin Kraly
"The AC needs a charge" = the AC does not work. That or it does not hold
pressure long enough for you to drive it away.

Ironically, this NPR belongs to a heating/cooling company LOL!  If I decide 
to buy it, I'm going to try to work it into the deal that they fix/recharge 
it if I pay full price.  The way that the dragon boat club board drags its 
feet on EVERYTHING, they may lose it.  We put a deposit down to hold it, but 
my wife and I are thinking about purchasing it if they don't.  It can move 
us and both of her sisters, and also be rented out to the club too.

Kevin in Portland, OR
1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula 


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Re: [MBZ] GM 6.5L Diesel

2007-08-07 Thread Tom Hargrave
I understand, just could not resist the jab.

Tom
www.kegkits.com

 
Original Message
From: Kaleb C. Striplin, work <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: 08/07/07 04:24 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] GM 6.5L Diesel
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Nobody has ever been scolded for going off topic.  The only time is if
it 
gets political or vulgar.  Some OT posts is what keeps the list
interesting. 
If all we ever talked about was MB, it would get boring.

---
Kaleb C. Striplin
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730 PP Supervisor

- Original Message - 
From: "Tom Hargrave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Mercedes Discussion List'" 
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 4:15 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] GM 6.5L Diesel


>I guess that since the administrator can veer off the Mercedes subject
> line with this extensive "non-Mercedes" conversation than that same
> Administrator won't scold us the next time we veer off the Mercedes
> subject line?
>
> Tom
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Re: [MBZ] FW: Today's Diesel Prices

2007-08-07 Thread Loren Faeth
Once again, we are really getting ripped in IA, west coast prices in 
the midwest.  2.99 is the cheapest *&^%$$  I have seen for 
several weeks here.


At 08:02 PM 8/6/2007, you wrote:


>Thanks,
>Tom Hargrave
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Re: [MBZ] OT Isuzu NPR

2007-08-07 Thread dave walton
"The AC needs a charge" = the AC does not work. That or it does not hold
pressure long enough for you to drive it away.

-Dave Walton

On 8/7/07, Kevin Kraly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Well,
> When the good deals come, they keep on coming!  The dragon boat club board
> is looking at purchasing a '94 Isuzu NPR with 195K miles on it for $4500.
> it does have a couple of minor problems.  The AC needs a charge, and some
> accessories still function, for example, the blower motor,  when the key
> is
> off which drains the battery which I'm guessing is due to a faulty
> ignition
> switch.  The owner thinks that it's odd that the highbeams still function
> as
> well.  I figured that since the lights can be switched on with the key
> off,
> the highbeams should too.  Other than the above, the truck runs and drives
> great!
>
> Kevin in Portland, OR
> 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT Isuzu NPR

2007-08-07 Thread Kevin Kraly
I seriously
considered getting one of the crew cab models to drag my 5th wheel
around,

11000# towing capacity would definitely be enough to haul most 5ers with no 
problem.  The newer ones can tow more since they have a 4.8L 190HP engine. 
This old '94 has a 3.9L 135HP engine.  Like the other NPR's I've heard, it 
has a nice turbo whine like it's taking off although it feels more like a VW 
bus!

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Re: [MBZ] GM 6.5L Diesel

2007-08-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, work
Nobody has ever been scolded for going off topic.  The only time is if it 
gets political or vulgar.  Some OT posts is what keeps the list interesting. 
If all we ever talked about was MB, it would get boring.

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Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 4:15 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] GM 6.5L Diesel


>I guess that since the administrator can veer off the Mercedes subject
> line with this extensive "non-Mercedes" conversation than that same
> Administrator won't scold us the next time we veer off the Mercedes
> subject line?
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Re: [MBZ] GM 6.5L Diesel

2007-08-07 Thread Tom Hargrave
I guess that since the administrator can veer off the Mercedes subject
line with this extensive "non-Mercedes" conversation than that same
Administrator won't scold us the next time we veer off the Mercedes
subject line?

Tom
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] GM 6.5L Diesel
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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>I recently drove an 03 6.0 powerchoke and I was hardly impressed with
the
> power or mileage.  According to it's onboard mileage computer we could
get
> no more than 17 empty no matter how easy on it we were.
>
> Mike
>
>> Someone already told you what a powerstroke gets, and that's an
engine
>> with
>> larger displacement. The 6.0s get better than that.
>>
>> Body is pretty solid on dodges, as is the frame, and the NV5600 is
>> certainly
>> not weak. The aisin warner six speed that dodge is using in the 07 or
08
>> trucks leaves the tuned down for GM allison in the dust.
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 07, 2007 at 11:57:34AM -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin, work
wrote:
>>> The dodge may get better mileage, the ford sure doesnt.  Of couse
the
>>> good
>>> mileage is outweighed on the Dodge by the crappy body and trans.
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Re: [MBZ] 3 litre gasser??

2007-08-07 Thread E M
Thanks guys.

Ed
300E

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> Subject: [MBZ] 3 litre gasser??
>
>
> > Was the gas engine used in the 126 300SE the same as the gas engine used
> > in
> > teh 124 300E ?  I was thinking to maybe get either another 124 or an S
> > with
> > a 3 litre engine.  Economy of scale type thing, hee hee.  If the engines
> > are
> > the same, I can start collecting some spares and use them on which ever
> > car
> > would need them first.  Oh, were the trannies the same in both cars?
> > Maybe
> > my thinking is off here and the whole thing is a false ecomony??
> >
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Re: [MBZ] OT Re: GM 6.5L Diesel

2007-08-07 Thread Robert & Tara Ludwick
Now that's a sweet idea!
 If you were to keep an eye on the papers out in LA every once in a 
while an old rolls in the state of neglect required for such an endeavor 
pops up cheap.

--Robert

Alex Chamberlain wrote:
> Ive said here before, I've been dreaming for a long time of
> putting a Cummins engine in a '70s or '80s Rolls-Royce Silver Shadow.
> Those things have TALL hoods and I bet you'd have the clearance with
> little or no fabrication.  There are already kits out there to swap a
> Chevy small-block into the Rolls, so some of the work is already done
> as far as mount fabrication, etc.  (I.e. if you can swap a Chevy 350
> in for the Rolls 6.75, and a Cummins in place of a stock 350, then by
> the transitive property...)
>
> Alex Chamberlain
> '87 300D Turbo et al
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Re: [MBZ] Another 240D front end noise post

2007-08-07 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr
That's in the right front.

Bissell Cove Quahog & Auto Salvage Co
Dwight E. Giles, Jr.
Wickford RI 02852

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Subject: [MBZ] Another 240D front end noise post

My 79 240D has a grating/ light scraping sound at low speed. At first I
thought it was up and down noise like a shock-but I can produce the noise
while sitting still and turning wheel to the right.

What do I look for or do to diagnose?

TIA.

Dwight

 

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1979 240D-250K + miles

1990 300D 2.5t 135K miles

Wickford, RI

 

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Re: [MBZ] GM 6.5L Diesel

2007-08-07 Thread Robert & Tara Ludwick
I wish I could get that kind of mileage out of my old ford 7.3 IDI 
international, but  have a 1 ton crew cab with  4.10 rear and a heavy 
towing bed, at last count I'm getting around 14 mpg dragging 10,000 
pounds of trailer around.At least no computers to deal with on that beast.

---Robert

Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote:
> No, not really.  I am not saying the D/A gets better mileage than the 
> Cummins.  It will get 18ish without any problem, on up to about 21.  What 
> kind of mileage did you get with your last Duramax?
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> - Original Message - 
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> Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 8:01 AM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] GM 6.5L Diesel
>
>
>   
>> And drinks a disproportionate amount of fuel...
>>
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT Isuzu NPR

2007-08-07 Thread Robert & Tara Ludwick

Theres a lot of cheap mid sized trucks on the east coast cheap, but you 
really have to watch them, cracked frames, broken springs etc are 
commonplace, especially the ones that run NJ and NYC regularly. you can 
put 20 years worth of wear in 2 years there.

---Robert

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Man the prices are high out there!!
>
> I'd sell ya my Iveco 15-14 Euroturbo for less than that.It's an 89
> with 94K miles and a GVWR of 14,800#.  How many boats will fit on a 19' x
> 8' flatbed?
>   But of course, as usual, the wrong side of the country has what you
> need, again.
>
> Mike
>
>
>   
>> Well,
>> When the good deals come, they keep on coming!  The dragon boat club board
>> is looking at purchasing a '94 Isuzu NPR with 195K miles on it for $4500.
>> it does have a couple of minor problems.  The AC needs a charge, and some
>> accessories still function, for example, the blower motor,  when the key
>> is
>> off which drains the battery which I'm guessing is due to a faulty
>> ignition
>> switch.  The owner thinks that it's odd that the highbeams still function
>> as
>> well.  I figured that since the lights can be switched on with the key
>> off,
>> the highbeams should too.  Other than the above, the truck runs and drives
>> great!
>>
>> Kevin in Portland, OR
>> 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula
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Re: [MBZ] OT Isuzu NPR

2007-08-07 Thread Robert & Tara Ludwick
That ought to turn into one nice truck, those things are stout, not very 
fast, but stout, and they generally last a good long time. I seriously 
considered getting one of the crew cab models to drag my 5th wheel 
around, but there aren't any used ones around here, they're all in the 
north east. or California

--Robert

Kevin Kraly wrote:
> Well,
> When the good deals come, they keep on coming!  The dragon boat club board 
> is looking at purchasing a '94 Isuzu NPR with 195K miles on it for $4500. 
> it does have a couple of minor problems.  The AC needs a charge, and some 
> accessories still function, for example, the blower motor,  when the key is 
> off which drains the battery which I'm guessing is due to a faulty ignition 
> switch.  The owner thinks that it's odd that the highbeams still function as 
> well.  I figured that since the lights can be switched on with the key off, 
> the highbeams should too.  Other than the above, the truck runs and drives 
> great!
>
> Kevin in Portland, OR
> 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula 
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Re: [MBZ] OT Re: GM 6.5L Diesel

2007-08-07 Thread Robert & Tara Ludwick

Now THAT would be one sweet truck. I wonder what they had to do for 
front springs ( as the gears turn in my head looking out at the f350 in 
the driveway :-)

-Robert

Mitch Haley wrote:
>
>   
>
> Several years ago, a fellow put a C series Cummins 6 cylinder (8.3L I believe)
> in front of a Fuller 9 speed trans, in a F350 4x4. 
> 1050 foot pounds without modifying the engine. 
> He had to move the firewall back, a C engine is even longer than a 6BT. 
>
> After seeing pictures of International Scout repower jobs, I wonder if
> a 6AT (3.5L) would make a decent car engine. Stock power rating is a
> little less than a OM603, but I bet you could boost that a lot before
> running into durability problems. Problem is it's taller than a OM617.
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Re: [MBZ] GM 6.5L Diesel

2007-08-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, work
Frods drink fuel

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>I recently drove an 03 6.0 powerchoke and I was hardly impressed with the
> power or mileage.  According to it's onboard mileage computer we could get
> no more than 17 empty no matter how easy on it we were.
>
> Mike
>
>> Someone already told you what a powerstroke gets, and that's an engine
>> with
>> larger displacement. The 6.0s get better than that.
>>
>> Body is pretty solid on dodges, as is the frame, and the NV5600 is
>> certainly
>> not weak. The aisin warner six speed that dodge is using in the 07 or 08
>> trucks leaves the tuned down for GM allison in the dust.
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 07, 2007 at 11:57:34AM -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote:
>>> The dodge may get better mileage, the ford sure doesnt.  Of couse the
>>> good
>>> mileage is outweighed on the Dodge by the crappy body and trans.
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Re: [MBZ] GM 6.5L Diesel

2007-08-07 Thread slozukimc
It's a 4 door dually 4x4..Not sure of the gears.

Mike


>
>
> Kevin Kraly wrote:
>>
>> You consider 17 to be terrible for a big truck that has over 300hp??  I
>> sure
>> dont
>
> The original 17 figure was for 55mph unloaded. My friend drove his 2001
> F250
> at 55mph for an entire tank and got 24mpg. I would expect most Dodge and
> Ford
> direct injection diesels to get in the mid 20s at 55mph, so 17 does not
> sound
> good, unless it's a dually with 4.xx final drive ratio.
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[MBZ] Another 240D front end noise post

2007-08-07 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr
My 79 240D has a grating/ light scraping sound at low speed. At first I
thought it was up and down noise like a shock-but I can produce the noise
while sitting still and turning wheel to the right.

What do I look for or do to diagnose?

TIA.

Dwight

 

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1979 240D-250K + miles

1990 300D 2.5t 135K miles

Wickford, RI

 

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Re: [MBZ] GM 6.5L Diesel

2007-08-07 Thread slozukimc


Yeah really.My Megadodge gets 6 at 85 pulling my car trailer with
a Tracker on it..Of course it rides on 37" tires and will use the
front of a Benz sized car for an RTI ramp..LOLOL


Mike

> as bad as 12 towing a 15k load of
> horses at 80mph.
>
> BAD?  Anything that can tow that much weight at 80MPH and still be in
> double
> digits is great!  My parents had a '94 F350 5SPD 1st gen Powerstroke with
> an
> 11' camper on the back, and it was lucky to get 10MPG on the highway at
> 70MPH.
>
> Kevin in Portland, OR
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Re: [MBZ] GM 6.5L Diesel

2007-08-07 Thread slozukimc
I recently drove an 03 6.0 powerchoke and I was hardly impressed with the
power or mileage.  According to it's onboard mileage computer we could get
no more than 17 empty no matter how easy on it we were.

Mike

> Someone already told you what a powerstroke gets, and that's an engine
> with
> larger displacement. The 6.0s get better than that.
>
> Body is pretty solid on dodges, as is the frame, and the NV5600 is
> certainly
> not weak. The aisin warner six speed that dodge is using in the 07 or 08
> trucks leaves the tuned down for GM allison in the dust.
>
> On Tue, Aug 07, 2007 at 11:57:34AM -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote:
>> The dodge may get better mileage, the ford sure doesnt.  Of couse the
>> good
>> mileage is outweighed on the Dodge by the crappy body and trans.
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Re: [MBZ] 3 litre gasser??

2007-08-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, work
yes, same engine

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Subject: [MBZ] 3 litre gasser??


> Was the gas engine used in the 126 300SE the same as the gas engine used 
> in
> teh 124 300E ?  I was thinking to maybe get either another 124 or an S 
> with
> a 3 litre engine.  Economy of scale type thing, hee hee.  If the engines 
> are
> the same, I can start collecting some spares and use them on which ever 
> car
> would need them first.  Oh, were the trannies the same in both cars? 
> Maybe
> my thinking is off here and the whole thing is a false ecomony??
>
> Ed
> 300E
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Re: [MBZ] 3 litre gasser??

2007-08-07 Thread Tom Hargrave
Engines are the same, don't know about the transmissions.

Tom
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Was the gas engine used in the 126 300SE the same as the gas engine used
in
teh 124 300E ?  I was thinking to maybe get either another 124 or an S
with
a 3 litre engine.  Economy of scale type thing, hee hee.  If the engines
are
the same, I can start collecting some spares and use them on which ever
car
would need them first.  Oh, were the trannies the same in both cars?
Maybe
my thinking is off here and the whole thing is a false ecomony??

Ed
300E
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[MBZ] 3 litre gasser??

2007-08-07 Thread E M
Was the gas engine used in the 126 300SE the same as the gas engine used in
teh 124 300E ?  I was thinking to maybe get either another 124 or an S with
a 3 litre engine.  Economy of scale type thing, hee hee.  If the engines are
the same, I can start collecting some spares and use them on which ever car
would need them first.  Oh, were the trannies the same in both cars?  Maybe
my thinking is off here and the whole thing is a false ecomony??

Ed
300E
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Re: [MBZ] GM 6.5L Diesel

2007-08-07 Thread Mitch Haley


Kevin Kraly wrote:
> 
> You consider 17 to be terrible for a big truck that has over 300hp??  I sure
> dont

The original 17 figure was for 55mph unloaded. My friend drove his 2001 F250
at 55mph for an entire tank and got 24mpg. I would expect most Dodge and Ford
direct injection diesels to get in the mid 20s at 55mph, so 17 does not sound
good, unless it's a dually with 4.xx final drive ratio.

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Re: [MBZ] OT Isuzu NPR

2007-08-07 Thread Kevin Kraly
Man the prices are high out there!!

What are NPR's going for in your neck of the woods?  Believe it or not, This 
$4500 NPR is the cheapest that I've found by far.

Kevin in Portland, OR
1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula 


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Re: [MBZ] GM 6.5L Diesel

2007-08-07 Thread Kevin Kraly
1 ton/dually Dodge/Cummins with 6speed will do 24 in town and 28 on the road 
when empty.

I have a 4X4 truck that's capable of running hard for 20 minutes under load 
at 55MPH on 4.5 ounces of fuel which equates to slightly less than 1 mile 
per ounce.  Unfortunately, there's no room for a driver inside :D!

Kevin in Portland, OR
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Re: [MBZ] GM 6.5L Diesel

2007-08-07 Thread Kevin Kraly
as bad as 12 towing a 15k load of
horses at 80mph.

BAD?  Anything that can tow that much weight at 80MPH and still be in double 
digits is great!  My parents had a '94 F350 5SPD 1st gen Powerstroke with an 
11' camper on the back, and it was lucky to get 10MPG on the highway at 
70MPH.

Kevin in Portland, OR
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Re: [MBZ] GM 6.5L Diesel

2007-08-07 Thread Kevin Kraly
You consider 17 to be terrible for a big truck that has over 300hp??  I sure
dont

---


My Cummins gets around 20 empty on the HWY at 65MPH with 7700 miles on it. 
The engine isn't even close to break-in, so I would anticipate a slight 
increase in fuel economy.  It's still quite a bit better than the same truck 
with a Hemi or the 8.0L V10, can you say GUZZZLE?

Kevin in Portland, OR
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Re: [MBZ] GM 6.5L Diesel

2007-08-07 Thread Kevin Kraly
I'll take a dependable old 7.3 turbo over a Cummins in a Ford any 
day

'there's nothin' wrong with the old IDI engines as long as you use the 
necessary coolant additives to prevent or lower the risk of cavitation.  I 
bought a good '86 F350 6.9L diesel crewcab dually that had the engine 
rebuilt ***AGAIN*** under warranty.  One cylinder had a wormhole in it,and 
coolant was blowing out around the air cleaner.  After the problem was 
corrected, it was a wonderful truck for 4 years.

Kevin in Portland, OR
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Re: [MBZ] Key Won't Turn

2007-08-07 Thread Zoltan Finks
For sure. I just think creative deterrents are a good thing.

Good thing most professional thiefs don't have any interest in our old beasts.

Reminds me of when I lived in the Phoenix area and used to unhook the
neutral safety switch at the transmission every time I would go into
the grocery store. Of course then I would cover the car, lock the
cover and walk all the way across the parking lot to the store.
There's a whole bandit vibe in AZ.

Brian

On 8/7/07, Allan Streib <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> "Zoltan Finks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > I just thought the sight of a missing ignition switch might put off
> > some would-be thiefs. Maybe not the experienced ones.
>
> If a "professional" thief wants your car, he'll get it.  Doesn't much
> matter what you do, or don't do.
>
> Allan
> --
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> 1966 230
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[MBZ] For sale: Injectors and glow plugs (make offer)

2007-08-07 Thread Walt Lasher
I have 5 used injectors and used 4 glow plugs which I removed from
my W126. They were all working well before the change.
I replaced them just before I sold the car.  The injectors had 120k in them.
Not sure of the time on the glow plugs since I changed them a few times
when I owned the car.  Shipping weight is about 4 lbs.
MAKE ME AN OFFER

Walt Lasher
Seattle
W140 S350

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Re: [MBZ] Key Won't Turn

2007-08-07 Thread Allan Streib

"Zoltan Finks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I just thought the sight of a missing ignition switch might put off
> some would-be thiefs. Maybe not the experienced ones.

If a "professional" thief wants your car, he'll get it.  Doesn't much
matter what you do, or don't do.

Allan
-- 
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1966 230

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Re: [MBZ] Key Won't Turn

2007-08-07 Thread Zoltan Finks
Shoot. Guess my thinking (or lack thereof) was faulty on that. Guess
it would be safer with the cylinder installed since the thief would
need your key to turn the ignition? And he/she would probably not be
aware that with a paper clip they could have it out?

I just thought the sight of a missing ignition switch might put off
some would-be thiefs. Maybe not the experienced ones.

Brian

On 8/7/07, Allan Streib <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "Zoltan Finks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > If you are parking in a bad neighborhood, simply remove the lock
> > cylinder with a paper clip and put it in your pocket and go. I got
> > quite quick at the cylinder removal process.
>
> If you do this, anyone will be able to start your car with a
> screwdriver, butter knife, etc.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Flippin' Tach.

2007-08-07 Thread Allan Streib

LWB250 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> You might also try the "take the amp out of the cylindrical case and
> insert a couple of pieces of folded up cardboard to put pressure on
> the amp" approach as well.
>

I've tried that, did not help any more than any of my other efforts.
I think Jim may be right that in my case it's not the amp, but some
other problem like a marginal ground somewhere.  All the other
instrumentation is trouble-free however.

Allan

-- 
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1966 230

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Re: [MBZ] Flippin' Tach.

2007-08-07 Thread LWB250
You might also try the "take the amp out of the
cylindrical case and insert a couple of pieces of
folded up cardboard to put pressure on the amp"
approach as well.

That seemed to make them happy in the past.  I've
heard (and seen) of things like cigarette butts, globs
of RTV, etc., placed in the top of the amp case to
force it into the socket.

I did pick one of them apart once just to see what was
up, and I will say that for what you can buy a rebuilt
amp for, it ain't worth the time.

Dan



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> > I'd try to resolder the amp circuit but it seems
> to be all encased in
> > silicone or something.  So I just live with it,
> currently.  The tach
> > is not all that useful in an automatic
> transmission anyway.
> 
> It's potted in RTV.  This can be picked/scraped off,
> but it's
> tedious.  Almost always tach problems are the
> amplifier on the
> firewall (in the can), but there are exceptions.  If
> it responds
> at all to ACC buttonry, I would suspect a different
> problem.
> Bad ground or power feed in shared circuitry, or
> mechanical
> vibration from the stab wiggling the tach itself. 
> Probably
> power/ground.
> 
> -- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] Key Won't Turn

2007-08-07 Thread Allan Streib
"Zoltan Finks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> If you are parking in a bad neighborhood, simply remove the lock
> cylinder with a paper clip and put it in your pocket and go. I got
> quite quick at the cylinder removal process.

If you do this, anyone will be able to start your car with a
screwdriver, butter knife, etc.

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Re: [MBZ] Flippin' Tach.

2007-08-07 Thread Fmiser
It seems than at Tue, 07 Aug 2007 09:42:40 -0400, Allan wrote:

> The tach
> is not all that useful in an automatic transmission anyway.

'Tis annoying that the option package that gets a tachometer is
also saddled with an automatic transmission.

Someday maybe I'll find/build a proper W123. A wagon with manual
HVAC, manual sunroof, power windows/door locks, manual
transmisson, turbo diesel, with a tach.

-- Philip, too busy right now to start another car project

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Re: [MBZ] Need lock cylinder help again please!

2007-08-07 Thread Zoltan Finks
Now this must be different that the removal of an ignition cylinder on
a 123? A paper clip inserted in the slot and corresponding hole works
just fine there.

Brian

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> On 8/2/07, Alex Chamberlain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Yes, I've read and reread the FSM, and I believe I've made the special
> > tool correctly and am following the instructions to the letter... but
> > still no dice.  I'm going to take it to my indy next week, who, if
> > past experience is any judge, will be able to do it in 30 seconds
> > while I kick myself.
>
> Well, that's about what happened.  Took the pro (Carlos at MBI Motors
> in Portland, Ore.) about 10 minutes.  Once he got the old cylinder
> out, he showed me where my ham-fisted attempt to do it with an
> improvised tool had just made things worse.  The official tool is
> spring steel and the tips are ground at an extremely sharp angle---it
> looked like more than the 30 degrees specified in the FSM.  My
> paperclip's tips weren't sharp enough, and if you don't get the point
> on the correct side of the internal catch the first time, you end up
> just bending the catch outward and locking the cylinder in worse.
> There's a lesson in there somewhere (not that I am very good at
> learning such).
>
> Alex Chamberlain
> '87 300D Turbo with ignition lock in no danger of freezing up now
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Re: [MBZ] Key Won't Turn

2007-08-07 Thread Zoltan Finks
Hi John,

For once, I can speak knowledgeably on a topic, as my 83 240D had the
same symptoms.

In my case, it was *not* the lock cylinder that was the problem. I
ordered a new one from the dealer and it did not change a thing, so I
now own two ignition cylinders.

The problem in my case was the locking rod that somehow connects the
steering column with the ignition cylinder. A few guys on the list
suggested pouring automatic transmission fluid down the area
surrounding the cylinder (well, more like dripping it). Instead, I
used some petroleum based modybdenum stuff called "bike aid" that is
made for lubing bike parts and clutch cables on motorcycles.

This worked and the problem was solved.

Now, mind you that I had the cylinder was removed when I dripped the
lube down in there. I believe I dripped it into the empty spot where
the cylinder goes and also around it.

As for getting the ignition and wheel unlocked one more time so that
you can get it removed: Mine locked up solid several times and each
time I was very very worried that it would be the last time. But,
thank God, each time I was able to get the key to turn by a three-way
combination of jiggling the wheel and trying to turn the key, and
actually kicking the bottom of the steering column with my foot (and
letting out a big shout of victory when the key finally turned). Be
prepared to look like a fool when you do this.

As the others have said, once the key turns, do not under any
circumstance return it to full lock position. My m.o. prior to fixing
it was to continue to use the car (including on a cross-country road
trip) by parking the car with the ignition in the number one position.

Of course, you will find that the key must be turned all the way to
the zero position before you are able to operate the starter the next
time you start the car. What you simply do is this: When you shut off
the car, hold the wheel in a neutral position (right in the middle of
its slop, and make sure your tires aren't turned too much, and
especially that you aren't parked on a hill with your wheels turned.
Now, while holding the steering wheel there, you shut of the key to
the zero position for a split second to satisfy the car's requirement,
and quickly turn it back to the number one position so you will be
ready to start it the next time. If you are parking in a bad
neighborhood, simply remove the lock cylinder with a paper clip and
put it in your pocket and go. I got quite quick at the cylinder
removal process.

So, John, if your problem was the same as mine, that is how you deal
with it. Of course the correct way is to take apart the column and
dash and whatever and get to that locking rod and replace it I
suppose.

Brian
83 240D
87 190D

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>
> For starters, if you ever get it unlocked again, DO NOT TURN THE KEY TO 
> "LOCK".
>
> It has to be unlocked to take it apart normally. My 300SD has a screwed up
> steering lock and a mismatched ignition cylinder because the previous owner
> was an idiot in this respect. He ordered an uncoded cylinder from an import
> parts house and paid an indy to ruin the column taking the old cylinder out.
> I forget what he paid in labor, but he paid $40 for the lock ten years ago
> when Rusty would have ordered one keyed alike to the car for less.
>
> Cleaning it with WD40 might help you get it unlocked one last time. Will
> save you hundreds in labor if you can get it unlocked.
>
> Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] GM 6.5L Diesel

2007-08-07 Thread Luther
My work buddy's '06 1 ton/dually Dodge/Cummins with 6speed will do 24 in town 
and 28 on the road when empty.  Beats your Durifeces hands down.  Blows the 
socks off of a Flowerchoke also.  It's for sale if you need a REAL truck :D


Luther

On Tue, 07 Aug 2007 09:33:38 -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin, work <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

> You consider 17 to be terrible for a big truck that has over 300hp??  I sure
> dont
>
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>
> - Original Message -
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 9:22 AM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] GM 6.5L Diesel
>
>
>> Agreed there...My friend kerry's Duramax gets 17 empty at 55mph.
>> Terrible for a new truck.  Only gets 13 or so loaded but I must say it
>> does have a TON of power.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>> And drinks a disproportionate amount of fuel...
>
>



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'85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi)
'82 300CD (166 kmi)
'82 300D  (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold
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Re: [MBZ] GM 6.5L Diesel

2007-08-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, work
I have never heard that one before.

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> Sure do running empty.  A 7.3 Powerchoke will pull 23 in the same type of
> truck.
> 
> Mike
> 
>> You consider 17 to be terrible for a big truck that has over 300hp??  I
>> sure
>> dont
>>
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>> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 9:22 AM
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] GM 6.5L Diesel
>>
>>
>>> Agreed there...My friend kerry's Duramax gets 17 empty at 55mph.
>>> Terrible for a new truck.  Only gets 13 or so loaded but I must say it
>>> does have a TON of power.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
 And drinks a disproportionate amount of fuel...
>>
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Re: [MBZ] GM 6.5L Diesel

2007-08-07 Thread Kevin
Someone already told you what a powerstroke gets, and that's an engine with
larger displacement. The 6.0s get better than that.

Body is pretty solid on dodges, as is the frame, and the NV5600 is certainly
not weak. The aisin warner six speed that dodge is using in the 07 or 08 
trucks leaves the tuned down for GM allison in the dust.

On Tue, Aug 07, 2007 at 11:57:34AM -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote:
> The dodge may get better mileage, the ford sure doesnt.  Of couse the good 
> mileage is outweighed on the Dodge by the crappy body and trans.

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Re: [MBZ] GM 6.5L Diesel

2007-08-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, work
The dodge may get better mileage, the ford sure doesnt.  Of couse the good 
mileage is outweighed on the Dodge by the crappy body and trans.

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> Right. Compared to the duramax's competition, it gets poor mileage. Does 
> GM
> even sell the 8.1 anymore?
>
> On Tue, Aug 07, 2007 at 10:55:52AM -0500, Tom Hargrave wrote:
>> You have to compare "apples to apples".
>>
>> I friend of mine told me that my 300SDL 25 highway MPG / 22 in town MPG
>> was terrible for a diesel & that I should be in the 40's. I reminded him
>> that the same car with a V-8 - a 1987 560SEL gets 17 highway MPG / 14 in
>> town MPG and requires premium gas.
>>
>> He responded with "but it's a diesel and VW's get 40's on the highway,
>> you should get the same". I gave up.. But then it's the same friend
>> who asked me if my clicker (remote key fob) was broken when I unlocked
>> the doors with a key.
>>
>> It's amazing how people expect today's technology to apply to
>> yesterday's cars.
>>
>> Tom
>> www.kegkits.com
>>
>> Original Message
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>> Sent: 08/07/07 09:33 AM
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>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] GM 6.5L Diesel
>> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
>> You consider 17 to be terrible for a big truck that has over 300hp??  I
>> sure
>> dont
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Re: [MBZ] GM 6.5L Diesel

2007-08-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, work
a VW is also much smaller, and more cheaply built.

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From: "Tom Hargrave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 10:55 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] GM 6.5L Diesel


> You have to compare "apples to apples".
> 
> I friend of mine told me that my 300SDL 25 highway MPG / 22 in town MPG
> was terrible for a diesel & that I should be in the 40's. I reminded him
> that the same car with a V-8 - a 1987 560SEL gets 17 highway MPG / 14 in
> town MPG and requires premium gas.
> 
> He responded with "but it's a diesel and VW's get 40's on the highway,
> you should get the same". I gave up.. But then it's the same friend
> who asked me if my clicker (remote key fob) was broken when I unlocked
> the doors with a key.
> 
> It's amazing how people expect today's technology to apply to
> yesterday's cars.
> 
> Tom
> www.kegkits.com
> 
> Original Message
> From: Kaleb C. Striplin, work <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: 08/07/07 09:33 AM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] GM 6.5L Diesel
> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
> You consider 17 to be terrible for a big truck that has over 300hp??  I
> sure 
> dont
> 
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> - Original Message - 
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 9:22 AM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] GM 6.5L Diesel
> 
> 
>> Agreed there...My friend kerry's Duramax gets 17 empty at 55mph.
>> Terrible for a new truck.  Only gets 13 or so loaded but I must say it
>> does have a TON of power.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>> And drinks a disproportionate amount of fuel...
> 
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Re: [MBZ] GM 6.5L Diesel

2007-08-07 Thread slozukimc
Sure do running empty.  A 7.3 Powerchoke will pull 23 in the same type of
truck.

Mike

> You consider 17 to be terrible for a big truck that has over 300hp??  I
> sure
> dont
>
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> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 9:22 AM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] GM 6.5L Diesel
>
>
>> Agreed there...My friend kerry's Duramax gets 17 empty at 55mph.
>> Terrible for a new truck.  Only gets 13 or so loaded but I must say it
>> does have a TON of power.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>> And drinks a disproportionate amount of fuel...
>
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Re: [MBZ] GM 6.5L Diesel

2007-08-07 Thread Tom Hargrave
Three reasons - marketing, marketing & marketing.

Look at the Japanese competition & I believe you will see a compatable
model that the Cobalt goes head to head with.

Tom
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Sent: 08/07/07 11:20 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] GM 6.5L Diesel
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=


Tom Hargrave wrote:
> 
> He responded with "but it's a diesel and VW's get 40's on the highway,
> you should get the same".

And if a Jetta gasser gets 33 on the hwy, so should a 560 SEL, right?
(In some lineups, it does work that way. Chevy Cobalt gets something
like 32 hwy with auto tranny, v6 Malibu and V6 Impala also get 32.
I4 Malibu gets 34, making one wonder why the Cobalt exists)

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] GM 6.5L Diesel

2007-08-07 Thread Mitch Haley


Tom Hargrave wrote:
> 
> He responded with "but it's a diesel and VW's get 40's on the highway,
> you should get the same".

And if a Jetta gasser gets 33 on the hwy, so should a 560 SEL, right?
(In some lineups, it does work that way. Chevy Cobalt gets something
like 32 hwy with auto tranny, v6 Malibu and V6 Impala also get 32.
I4 Malibu gets 34, making one wonder why the Cobalt exists)

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] 350 sd shjocks

2007-08-07 Thread Marshall Booth
Constantine N. Polites wrote:
> Thanks Craig and Wilton.
> 
> I contacted Bilstein and they suggest considering the Heavy Duty version 
> of these shocks.  They are physically identical, the HD is a bit more 
> stiff ( the internal valves don't allow the fluid to pass as fast) and 
> claim that the cornering is better.
> 
> I am still on the archives list but no longer on the daily list, which 
> is just fine.

If you want the ride and handling the car had when it was new, go with 
comfort shocks. HDs will deliver a harsher ride (tolerable or almost 
pleasant for a short while but VERY tiring for a long drive)..

Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] GM 6.5L Diesel

2007-08-07 Thread Kevin
Right. Compared to the duramax's competition, it gets poor mileage. Does GM
even sell the 8.1 anymore?

On Tue, Aug 07, 2007 at 10:55:52AM -0500, Tom Hargrave wrote:
> You have to compare "apples to apples".
> 
> I friend of mine told me that my 300SDL 25 highway MPG / 22 in town MPG
> was terrible for a diesel & that I should be in the 40's. I reminded him
> that the same car with a V-8 - a 1987 560SEL gets 17 highway MPG / 14 in
> town MPG and requires premium gas.
> 
> He responded with "but it's a diesel and VW's get 40's on the highway,
> you should get the same". I gave up.. But then it's the same friend
> who asked me if my clicker (remote key fob) was broken when I unlocked
> the doors with a key.
> 
> It's amazing how people expect today's technology to apply to
> yesterday's cars.
> 
> Tom
> www.kegkits.com
>  
> Original Message
> From: Kaleb C. Striplin, work <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: 08/07/07 09:33 AM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] GM 6.5L Diesel
> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
> You consider 17 to be terrible for a big truck that has over 300hp??  I
> sure 
> dont

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Re: [MBZ] GM 6.5L Diesel

2007-08-07 Thread Tom Hargrave
You have to compare "apples to apples".

I friend of mine told me that my 300SDL 25 highway MPG / 22 in town MPG
was terrible for a diesel & that I should be in the 40's. I reminded him
that the same car with a V-8 - a 1987 560SEL gets 17 highway MPG / 14 in
town MPG and requires premium gas.

He responded with "but it's a diesel and VW's get 40's on the highway,
you should get the same". I gave up.. But then it's the same friend
who asked me if my clicker (remote key fob) was broken when I unlocked
the doors with a key.

It's amazing how people expect today's technology to apply to
yesterday's cars.

Tom
www.kegkits.com
 
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Sent: 08/07/07 09:33 AM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] GM 6.5L Diesel
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
You consider 17 to be terrible for a big truck that has over 300hp??  I
sure 
dont

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To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 9:22 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] GM 6.5L Diesel


> Agreed there...My friend kerry's Duramax gets 17 empty at 55mph.
> Terrible for a new truck.  Only gets 13 or so loaded but I must say it
> does have a TON of power.
>
> Mike
>
>> And drinks a disproportionate amount of fuel...


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Re: [MBZ] Need lock cylinder help again please!

2007-08-07 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On 8/2/07, Alex Chamberlain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yes, I've read and reread the FSM, and I believe I've made the special
> tool correctly and am following the instructions to the letter... but
> still no dice.  I'm going to take it to my indy next week, who, if
> past experience is any judge, will be able to do it in 30 seconds
> while I kick myself.

Well, that's about what happened.  Took the pro (Carlos at MBI Motors
in Portland, Ore.) about 10 minutes.  Once he got the old cylinder
out, he showed me where my ham-fisted attempt to do it with an
improvised tool had just made things worse.  The official tool is
spring steel and the tips are ground at an extremely sharp angle---it
looked like more than the 30 degrees specified in the FSM.  My
paperclip's tips weren't sharp enough, and if you don't get the point
on the correct side of the internal catch the first time, you end up
just bending the catch outward and locking the cylinder in worse.
There's a lesson in there somewhere (not that I am very good at
learning such).

Alex Chamberlain
'87 300D Turbo with ignition lock in no danger of freezing up now

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Re: [MBZ] Key Won't Turn

2007-08-07 Thread Mitch Haley

For starters, if you ever get it unlocked again, DO NOT TURN THE KEY TO "LOCK".

It has to be unlocked to take it apart normally. My 300SD has a screwed up 
steering lock and a mismatched ignition cylinder because the previous owner
was an idiot in this respect. He ordered an uncoded cylinder from an import
parts house and paid an indy to ruin the column taking the old cylinder out.
I forget what he paid in labor, but he paid $40 for the lock ten years ago
when Rusty would have ordered one keyed alike to the car for less. 

Cleaning it with WD40 might help you get it unlocked one last time. Will
save you hundreds in labor if you can get it unlocked. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Key Won't Turn

2007-08-07 Thread Allan Streib
Keep playing with it, maybe try to flush it with some WD40 (can't hurt
at this point) and hope you get it to turn.  Then with the key in
position 1 you can remove the cylinder by inserting a piece of stiff
wire into the little slot or hole on the edge to release it.  You'll
have to unscrew the bezel around the cylinder as well.

Others may be able to describe the removal procedure more accurately
but it was pretty self-evident when I replaced my lock cylinder a few
years ago when it began to get sticky.

Whatever you do, once you get it to turn again don't turn it back to
the lock position.  Once you get the cylinder out you can operate the
switch with a big screwdriver or similar tool, until you can get a new
cylinder.  Rusty can order a cylinder and key with your VIN numebr.
Once you get the new cylinder only use the original STEEL keys, not
the brass copies you get at most key duplicating shops.

MB made the cylinder out of very hard steel and it is a big effort
(i.e. $$) to get it drilled out if it comes to that.  Hope you can
work it free one more time.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> Hello Everyone,
>
>My 1983 240D is sitting in front of my house unable to move because  
> the (ignition) key will no longer turn.  The last time I started it I  
> had to giggle the steering wheel and the key to find the perfect spot  
> in which everything lined up and I could start thr car.  I think it is  
> just worn out.  What should I do?  I hope I can get it started one  
> more time so I could drive to a lock smith. Is this something I can  
> fix?  What parts do I need to get?  Can I get it keyed so I will have  
> one key for the ignition, doors and trunk?  I do all the work on this  
> car so I have the tools but I have never tried to take one of these  
> apart before. 
>

-- 
1983 300D
1966 230

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Re: [MBZ] OT Re: GM 6.5L Diesel

2007-08-07 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On 8/7/07, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> After seeing pictures of International Scout repower jobs, I wonder if
> a 6AT (3.5L) would make a decent car engine. Stock power rating is a
> little less than a OM603, but I bet you could boost that a lot before
> running into durability problems. Problem is it's taller than a OM617.
> Mitch

Like I've said here before, I've been dreaming for a long time of
putting a Cummins engine in a '70s or '80s Rolls-Royce Silver Shadow.
Those things have TALL hoods and I bet you'd have the clearance with
little or no fabrication.  There are already kits out there to swap a
Chevy small-block into the Rolls, so some of the work is already done
as far as mount fabrication, etc.  (I.e. if you can swap a Chevy 350
in for the Rolls 6.75, and a Cummins in place of a stock 350, then by
the transitive property...)

Alex Chamberlain
'87 300D Turbo et al

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Re: [MBZ] GM 6.5L Diesel

2007-08-07 Thread Mitch Haley


"Kaleb C. Striplin, work" wrote:
> 
> You consider 17 to be terrible for a big truck that has over 300hp??  I sure
> dont

2001 F250 6 speed gets 24 at 55mph, about 16-17 towing an empty 5000lb flatbed
at 65mph, 14-15 with the flatbed loaded, and as bad as 12 towing a 15k load of
horses at 80mph. I expect a 6sp single rear wheel Dodge to beat that by 1-2 
mpg. 

Mitch.

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[MBZ] Key Won't Turn

2007-08-07 Thread johnvi


    Hello Everyone,

   My 1983 240D is sitting in front of my house unable to move because  
the (ignition) key will no longer turn.  The last time I started it I  
had to giggle the steering wheel and the key to find the perfect spot  
in which everything lined up and I could start thr car.  I think it is  
just worn out.  What should I do?  I hope I can get it started one  
more time so I could drive to a lock smith. Is this something I can  
fix?  What parts do I need to get?  Can I get it keyed so I will have  
one key for the ignition, doors and trunk?  I do all the work on this  
car so I have the tools but I have never tried to take one of these  
apart before. 

   Thank you all.

   John Ingram

   1983 240D  245K

   Maryland
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Re: [MBZ] GM 6.5L Diesel

2007-08-07 Thread John Robbins
Jim Cathey wrote:
> My Dodge gets 25-26 under those same conditions.  1997.
> I like my truck!  :-)

You're older dodge also isn't going through a mid-life crisis like all 
the new trucks are (They're HUGE...  some of the hoods are as tall as I 
am!).  AKA You're truck has a better aerodynamic profile ;)


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Re: [MBZ] GM 6.5L Diesel

2007-08-07 Thread Jim Cathey
> Agreed there...My friend kerry's Duramax gets 17 empty at 55mph.

My Dodge gets 25-26 under those same conditions.  1997.
I like my truck!  :-)

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] leather seats W109

2007-08-07 Thread Affzaal.Khan
Thanks Rusty   .  If I had known earlier I would have combined  them   with 
my earlier  orders of engine stuff.
btw   you guy's are still  out of bushes for the rear control arms. !
mak
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Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 6:55 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] leather seats W109


>I have them for $1,120.00 for both front seats.
>
> Rusty Cullens
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>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Affzaal.Khan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 7:33 PM
> Subject: [MBZ] leather seats W109
>
>
>> the front leather seats on the 300SEL   have  developed  quite a few
>> small cracks   and look  worn out in contrast to the rear seats .
>> ? Are these  leather covers still available somewhere. What would be the
>> best options?
>>
>> input will be appreciated.
>> Thanks
>>
>> mak
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Re: [MBZ] Fuel Line Sourcing

2007-08-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, work
Well, Rusty can get them.

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- Original Message - 
From: "Fred Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 8:21 AM
Subject: [MBZ] Fuel Line Sourcing


> In replacing the rear brake line on the SD I've also
> found out that I have a leaking fuel line.
>
> Does anybody have a source for the hard fuel lines
> that run from the tank to the front of the car besides
> the dealer?
>
> I'll visit one of the local MB dealers at lunch to see
> what their availability and price is.
>
> Fred Johnson
> Chicago
> 1977 240D
> 1981 300SD
> 1991 A/R 164L
> 1996 Civic
>
>
>
> 
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Re: [MBZ] leather seats W109

2007-08-07 Thread andrew strasfogel
Sometiems Bill Hirsch in NJ has good deals on interior leather.

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>
> Rusty has'em too!
>
>
> Rusty Cullens
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> - Original Message -
> From: "Peter Frederick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 8:14 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] leather seats W109
>
>
> > Adsit has them, so does World Upholstery.  Or you can do what I did and
> > make a set.
> >
> > Peter
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] GM 6.5L Diesel

2007-08-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, work
You consider 17 to be terrible for a big truck that has over 300hp??  I sure 
dont

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> Agreed there...My friend kerry's Duramax gets 17 empty at 55mph.
> Terrible for a new truck.  Only gets 13 or so loaded but I must say it
> does have a TON of power.
>
> Mike
>
>> And drinks a disproportionate amount of fuel...


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Re: [MBZ] GM 6.5L Diesel

2007-08-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, work
No, not really.  I am not saying the D/A gets better mileage than the 
Cummins.  It will get 18ish without any problem, on up to about 21.  What 
kind of mileage did you get with your last Duramax?

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> And drinks a disproportionate amount of fuel...
>


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Help a lost lister

2007-08-07 Thread andrew strasfogel
Touche.

On 8/6/07, BillR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Now if we could just get the guns to obey the laws
> BillR
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Rich Thomas
> Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 4:46 PM
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> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Help a lost lister
>
> You must not be aware that DC has very strict gun control laws, perhaps
> the
> most strict in the nation, so there is nothing to fear there.
>
> --R
>
> Gary Hurst wrote:
> > why should a government of the people, by the people and for the
> > people have to live in such terror of the people?  until that question
> > can be answered in some way other than they have done enough to earn
> > that sort of sentiment, i have no use for washington, dc and no desire
> to
> support it in any way.
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] GM 6.5L Diesel

2007-08-07 Thread slozukimc
Agreed there...My friend kerry's Duramax gets 17 empty at 55mph. 
Terrible for a new truck.  Only gets 13 or so loaded but I must say it
does have a TON of power.

Mike

> And drinks a disproportionate amount of fuel...
>
>   Message: 8
> Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2007 19:00:40 -0500
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> exactly.  Every step of the way the D/A has had more power than the
>  same
> year Cummins.
>
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Flippin' Tach.

2007-08-07 Thread Jim Cathey
> I'd try to resolder the amp circuit but it seems to be all encased in
> silicone or something.  So I just live with it, currently.  The tach
> is not all that useful in an automatic transmission anyway.

It's potted in RTV.  This can be picked/scraped off, but it's
tedious.  Almost always tach problems are the amplifier on the
firewall (in the can), but there are exceptions.  If it responds
at all to ACC buttonry, I would suspect a different problem.
Bad ground or power feed in shared circuitry, or mechanical
vibration from the stab wiggling the tach itself.  Probably
power/ground.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Flippin' Tach.

2007-08-07 Thread John Robbins
Allan Streib wrote:
> I've tried pulling and reseating the amp, cleaning the contacts with
> DeOxIt, applying dielectric grease to the pins, cleaning the pins with
> a fine wire brush, and though I can usually keep it working for a week
> or two it always stops or gets "jumpy" again eventually.

Have you tried to 'crimp' the sockets slightly?  IIRC, they're like most 
MB connectors in that they have a slot on one side.  I've seen where 
over time they stretch out and don't make as good of a contact.  If you 
squeeze the socket down some it might make a better connection.

John


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Re: [MBZ] leather seats W109

2007-08-07 Thread Rusty Cullens
Rusty has'em too!


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> Adsit has them, so does World Upholstery.  Or you can do what I did and 
> make a set.
> 
> Peter
> 
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Re: [MBZ] leather seats W109

2007-08-07 Thread Rusty Cullens
I have them for $1,120.00 for both front seats.

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Subject: [MBZ] leather seats W109


> the front leather seats on the 300SEL   have  developed  quite a few 
> small cracks   and look  worn out in contrast to the rear seats .
> ? Are these  leather covers still available somewhere. What would be the 
> best options?
>
> input will be appreciated.
> Thanks
>
> mak
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Re: [MBZ] Flippin' Tach.

2007-08-07 Thread Allan Streib
"archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Here's a change of topic.  The tachometer in my '83 300D has been 
> inoperative since I bought the car several years ago.  A couple of months 
> ago the hand started popping up and immediately back down once or twice a 
> day; usually at the end of a drive to town.  Gradually since then it has 
> flipped up and down more often and the distance it flips around on the dial 
> has increased until now it's pegging the dial several times per day.  There 
> is no relation to the engine RPM.

> Is the meter getting too much voltage intermittently that will eventually 
> destroy it? Does it indicate which part is bad?  Is it difficult to fix?

I've had the same problem in my 300D.  It does not pin all the way
over, and sometimes it works normally.  An interesting symptom is that
if the tach is "dead" and I change a selector button on the ACC, it
often resurrects the tachometer.

I've tried pulling and reseating the amp, cleaning the contacts with
DeOxIt, applying dielectric grease to the pins, cleaning the pins with
a fine wire brush, and though I can usually keep it working for a week
or two it always stops or gets "jumpy" again eventually.

I'd try to resolder the amp circuit but it seems to be all encased in
silicone or something.  So I just live with it, currently.  The tach
is not all that useful in an automatic transmission anyway.


-- 
1983 300D
1966 230

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[MBZ] Fuel Line Sourcing

2007-08-07 Thread Fred Johnson
In replacing the rear brake line on the SD I've also
found out that I have a leaking fuel line.

Does anybody have a source for the hard fuel lines
that run from the tank to the front of the car besides
the dealer?

I'll visit one of the local MB dealers at lunch to see
what their availability and price is.

Fred Johnson
Chicago
1977 240D
1981 300SD
1991 A/R 164L
1996 Civic


   

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Re: [MBZ] GM 6.5L Diesel

2007-08-07 Thread Curt Raymond
And drinks a disproportionate amount of fuel...
   
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Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2007 19:00:40 -0500
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exactly.  Every step of the way the D/A has had more power than the
 same 
year Cummins.



   
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Re: [MBZ] GM 6.5L Diesel

2007-08-07 Thread slozukimc
I'll take a dependable old 7.3 turbo over a Cummins in a Ford any day

Mike

> I'm sure people have thought they put away my buddy's Powerstroke. He tows
> 12-15k horse trailers in sixth, and won't downshift until he drops below
> 50mph.
>
> My parents owned a '99 Ford F350 Powerstroke which hauled a 35 foot 12.5K
> 5th wheel trailer.  With the pedal floored, it was just enough to maintain
> 50MPH up the Grape Vine.  I'm not sure how our Dodge Cummins would do with
> the same load, but it'll tow our 7K travel trailer around with ease.  If I
> could have the '06 Cummons, or better yet, a SLIGHTLY tweaked 12 valve
> '94-98.5  Cummins in the '99 or later Ford crewcab, now that would be THE
> TRUCK!
>
> Kevin in Portland, OR
> 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula
>
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Re: [MBZ] Flippin' Tach. was: How to lose a lister......!!!!!!!

2007-08-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, work
Its the tach amp

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Subject: [MBZ] Flippin' Tach. was: How to lose a lister..!!!


>> Hi all,
>> This original query that was about what to see in DC has dissolved
>> into a morass!!!
>> Friends, just a quiet request  Change the Subject when the
>> TOPIC has CHANGED from the originator's query that was meaningful..!
>> Off the squawk box..!!
>> Take care,
>> Chuck
>> Phoenix AZ
> -
> Here's a change of topic.  The tachometer in my '83 300D has been
> inoperative since I bought the car several years ago.  A couple of months
> ago the hand started popping up and immediately back down once or twice a
> day; usually at the end of a drive to town.  Gradually since then it has
> flipped up and down more often and the distance it flips around on the 
> dial
> has increased until now it's pegging the dial several times per day. 
> There
> is no relation to the engine RPM.
> Is the meter getting too much voltage intermittently that will eventually
> destroy it? Does it indicate which part is bad?  Is it difficult to fix?
> Thanks,
> Gerry
>
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Re: [MBZ] No one wants my TD?

2007-08-07 Thread slozukimc
Well it seems I am going to be "forced" to keep it...Not that I don't
want a TD, I do, but it isn't being driven and I haven't had the time to
fix it.  I guess I will be finding a fairly dry place in my barn for it to
live for the time being.  I am still very tempted to build a 4x4 out of
it..

Mike

> It seems than at Mon, 6 Aug 2007 08:22:30 -0700 (PDT),
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>> Kaleb? anyone?
>
> Sure. I want it.
>
> The price is good, the car is right.
>
> The distance is a bit much (about 960 miles), and the timing is
> poor. My suburban with nearly 400,000 miles is in need of
> significant work or replacement. Either will cost time and
> money, so to also spend time and money on yet another W123 is
> probably not a good choice for me.
>
> But I have cars with good transmissions and bad engines, so a
> _wagon_ that needs transmission work would fit in nicely.
>
> But do I really want to compete with Kaleb for quantity of cars?
>
> *sigh* Time and money...
>
> Anybody have leads on a diesel suburban, mid 80s, little rust?
>
> --Philip
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Re: [MBZ] OT Isuzu NPR

2007-08-07 Thread slozukimc
Man the prices are high out there!!

I'd sell ya my Iveco 15-14 Euroturbo for less than that.It's an 89
with 94K miles and a GVWR of 14,800#.  How many boats will fit on a 19' x
8' flatbed?
  But of course, as usual, the wrong side of the country has what you
need, again.

Mike


> Well,
> When the good deals come, they keep on coming!  The dragon boat club board
> is looking at purchasing a '94 Isuzu NPR with 195K miles on it for $4500.
> it does have a couple of minor problems.  The AC needs a charge, and some
> accessories still function, for example, the blower motor,  when the key
> is
> off which drains the battery which I'm guessing is due to a faulty
> ignition
> switch.  The owner thinks that it's odd that the highbeams still function
> as
> well.  I figured that since the lights can be switched on with the key
> off,
> the highbeams should too.  Other than the above, the truck runs and drives
> great!
>
> Kevin in Portland, OR
> 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula
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[MBZ] OT Re: GM 6.5L Diesel

2007-08-07 Thread Mitch Haley


Kevin Kraly wrote:
>  If I could have the '06 Cummons, or better yet, a SLIGHTLY tweaked 12 valve
> '94-98.5  Cummins in the '99 or later Ford crewcab, now that would be THE
> TRUCK!

Several years ago, a fellow put a C series Cummins 6 cylinder (8.3L I believe)
in front of a Fuller 9 speed trans, in a F350 4x4. 
1050 foot pounds without modifying the engine. 
He had to move the firewall back, a C engine is even longer than a 6BT. 

After seeing pictures of International Scout repower jobs, I wonder if
a 6AT (3.5L) would make a decent car engine. Stock power rating is a
little less than a OM603, but I bet you could boost that a lot before
running into durability problems. Problem is it's taller than a OM617.
Mitch

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