Re: [MBZ] Quality of the 190

2007-12-08 Thread Kevin Kraly
Ed in Chicago 10F How's the old '83 SD starting since the valve adjustment? Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 266Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [MBZ] Moosemount!

2007-12-08 Thread JFreezn
In a message dated 12/8/2007 3:12:24 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hey guys. Try this... http://www.snopes.com/photos/animals/ moosemount.asp For all you moose lovers out there. Chuck and all, I got to it by going to snopes.com t

Re: [MBZ] 124 fogs as more tail light

2007-12-08 Thread OK Don
How do you get a bare chassis with a uni-body car? On Dec 9, 2007 12:24 AM, tom savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Zeitgeist wrote: > > The MB designation for the 124 wagon > > > > S124 = wagon > > W124 = sedan (& coupe/convertible?) > > A124 = convertible > C124 = coupe > V124 = LWB > F124 = bar

Re: [MBZ] [PHISH]Re: I'm iced up!

2007-12-08 Thread OK Don
No - in honor of Marshall, you will REPLACE the glow plug FUSE tomorrow! On Dec 9, 2007 12:07 AM, Wonko the Sane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In honor of Marshall, I will check my glow plug fuse tomorrow. > > -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and stati

Re: [MBZ] 124 fogs as more tail light

2007-12-08 Thread tom savage
Zeitgeist wrote: > The MB designation for the 124 wagon > > S124 = wagon > W124 = sedan (& coupe/convertible?) A124 = convertible C124 = coupe V124 = LWB F124 = bare chassis for special body VF124 = LWB bare chassis Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new par

Re: [MBZ] [PHISH]Re: I'm iced up!

2007-12-08 Thread Wonko the Sane
In honor of Marshall, I will check my glow plug fuse tomorrow. On Dec 8, 2007 11:59 PM, Scott Ritchey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As I recall, the GP fuse once failed in my 82 300SD but the pre-glow light > was normal. It was years ago, so I could be wrong. > > > >If I'd had a glow plug failure

Re: [MBZ] [PHISH]Re: I'm iced up!

2007-12-08 Thread Scott Ritchey
As I recall, the GP fuse once failed in my 82 300SD but the pre-glow light was normal. It was years ago, so I could be wrong. >If I'd had a glow plug failure, would I have seen a pre-glow light at the >dash? (asking, curious) On Dec 8, 2007 11:20 PM, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> S

Re: [MBZ] for you few sports fans out there

2007-12-08 Thread Rich Thomas
HAtton can take an amazing amount of punches, but I guess FM gave him one too many. I bet Hatton was a true gent about it though, once he got his wits back. --R Gary Hurst wrote: > mayweather knocks out hatton in 10th. hatton is game, but floyd is too good > and dominates fight throughout. >

Re: [MBZ] I'm iced up!

2007-12-08 Thread Wonko the Sane
If I'd had a glow plug failure, would I have seen a pre-glow light at the dash? (asking, curious) On Dec 8, 2007 11:20 PM, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sudden GP system failures are not unheard of. -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a differen

[MBZ] for you few sports fans out there

2007-12-08 Thread Gary Hurst
mayweather knocks out hatton in 10th. hatton is game, but floyd is too good and dominates fight throughout. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or

Re: [MBZ] I'm iced up!

2007-12-08 Thread Jim Cathey
Sudden GP system failures are not unheard of. Tight valves act like a no-start switch once the critical cold temperature is reached. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [E

Re: [MBZ] I'm iced up!

2007-12-08 Thread Peter Frederick
Something's not right -- my 300D starts reliably down into the single digits (at least, the old one did, don't know about the new one, hasn't been that cold yet). Even an elderly diesel should start reliably down to 0F. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com Fo

Re: [MBZ] [PHISH] I'm iced up!

2007-12-08 Thread Scott Ritchey
Maybe I missed it , but ... you have checked the glow plug fuse, right? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wonko the Sane Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 21:05 To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [PHISH][MBZ] I'm iced up! It is cold. Curr

Re: [MBZ] I'm iced up!

2007-12-08 Thread Wonko the Sane
On Dec 8, 2007 9:53 PM, Peter Frederick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If it's gelled fuel, the pre-filter will have wax in it. I have a spare one > If that's the > case, either warm the car up to melt the fuel or take the fuel filter > (main one) off and fill it with anti-gel treatment and oper

Re: [MBZ] I'm iced up!

2007-12-08 Thread Peter Frederick
If it's gelled fuel, the pre-filter will have wax in it. If that's the case, either warm the car up to melt the fuel or take the fuel filter (main one) off and fill it with anti-gel treatment and operate the hand pump until you hear fuel squirting out the overflow. May not get it to start, I'

Re: [MBZ] I'm iced up!

2007-12-08 Thread Wonko the Sane
I am just anal-retentive enough to doubt any sudden mechanical problems -- unless something major broke. Think "Felix Unger Owns A 240D." Shut-off valve is relatively new, hand pump is equally new, fuel lines are in good condition. Glow plugs upgraded from loop to pencil. I got "good" pre-glow lig

Re: [MBZ] Quality of the 190

2007-12-08 Thread Peter Frederick
Mid 90's, I think, is when Ford bought Volvo, Jag, and Rover (was it Rover?). A 603 won't fit, too tall. Do not, under any circumstances, buy a V12. If you could find one that hasn't caught fire yet. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see

Re: [MBZ] I'm iced up!

2007-12-08 Thread Peter Frederick
Did you get any white smoke? If not, you have no fuel delivery for some reason. Lots of possibilities, including a stuck shutoff servo. Could be gelled fuel (although not likely if you put treatment in the tank), a cracked line, leaking fuel lines, or a bad hand pump if you still have the ol

Re: [MBZ] I'm iced up!

2007-12-08 Thread Wonko the Sane
On Dec 8, 2007 8:53 PM, Craig McCluskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Have you tried to work the hand pump? -- Tomorrow > > > Is the "Off" lever on the injection pump up? -- Yes. I did drain off the vacuum at the shutoff valve and that didn't seem to help, although there wasn't much battery le

Re: [MBZ] [Fwd: THINK TEST...How observant are you?]

2007-12-08 Thread Russ Williams
22 Hee Hee Russ W. Dave H... wrote: > 17 and I tried.LOL > > Dave H... > > -- > From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 1:36 PM > To: "Banned List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "mercedes Mailing List" > ; <[EMA

Re: [MBZ] I'm iced up!

2007-12-08 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sat, 8 Dec 2007 20:05:04 -0600 "Wonko the Sane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am beginning to think my fuel has gelled. I poured plenty of > PowerSource Fuel Conditioner in several days ago and have had a sixty > mile round trip since, plus around-town driving, so stuff is mixed. But > the fue

Re: [MBZ] Quality of the 190

2007-12-08 Thread OK Don
What year started the Ford "quality" Jags? My wife really likes the looks of some of them. Wonder how much work to install a 603 drive train in one? > until Ford bought Jag, they were rolling trash heaps > (how do you get oil on the bottom of the FRONT bumper?) -- an > astonishing change after t

[MBZ] I'm iced up!

2007-12-08 Thread Wonko the Sane
It is cold. Currently +9F outside. Garage doesn't feel any warmer, although some bottles of water I have sitting on the workbench haven't frozen. I am going to put a thermometer on the hood of the Benz overnight to see just how cold he garage is. Tried starting the Benz this morning. Good battery

Re: [MBZ] cleaning all day

2007-12-08 Thread Wonko the Sane
Just don't look in the trunks of his parts cars! On Dec 8, 2007 7:57 PM, Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > hahahahahaahhhaahahaha. How big is your dumpster? :) > > Luther > > > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small

Re: [MBZ] cleaning all day

2007-12-08 Thread Luther
hahahahahaahhhaahahaha. How big is your dumpster? :) Luther On Sat, 08 Dec 2007 16:50:40 -0600, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have spent all day throwing crap away, picking crap up etc. The house > is a pit. I have spent a great part of it cleaning out my office. For > tho

Re: [MBZ] [Fwd: THINK TEST...How observant are you?]

2007-12-08 Thread Luther
Correct! http://www.snopes.com/science/coriolis.asp Their test is WRONG! Luther On Sat, 08 Dec 2007 13:40:59 -0600, Craig McCluskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 08 Dec 2007 13:21:13 -0600 Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> What direction does water drain in the Northern Hemisphere??

[MBZ] garage/shop design software

2007-12-08 Thread Luther
So, I downloaded a demo version of Punch! Professional Home Design and started playing around with floor plans for a garage/shop/house I'd like to build. What free software is out there for this type of thing? Something that will lay out the floor plan, do the walls, roof, windows, etc and th

Re: [MBZ] Quality of the 190

2007-12-08 Thread Peter Frederick
I believe that British cars exemplified the concept of "conservative engineering" -- meaning that once you put it into production you never changed it. After all, MGBs had lever action shocks identical to the 1920's original MG, essentially no change at all. Not much innovation in monopoly ma

Re: [MBZ] Quality of the 190

2007-12-08 Thread Hendrik & Fay
Yeah, British cars where junk. I saw a comparison on Fifth Gear of the 600 and the same vintage RR. The RR used drum brakes and rolled like a row boat in rough seas (guess that's why they call them rollers). Hendrik Gary Hurst wrote: > that's what i have been told about the old british cars, t

Re: [MBZ] cleaning all day

2007-12-08 Thread Wonko the Sane
How does the garage look? On Dec 8, 2007 4:50 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have spent all day throwing crap away, picking crap up etc. The house > is a pit. I have spent a great part of it cleaning out my office. For > those who have seen my office, know what Im talking

Re: [MBZ] 2.6

2007-12-08 Thread Hendrik & Fay
The 210 and 140 did have some component issues but a key factor was the introduction of more complex electronics, of which the Japanese are masters and others are not so good at. It also has to be remembered that MB buys a lot of components off the shelf and often the quality assurance is out of

Re: [MBZ] local seller on crack

2007-12-08 Thread Rich Thomas
There is a 300D (the newer chassis, I can't keep them straight) that has been parked at this mech shop over in the barrio for 4 or 5 years with a for sale sign on it. I pass it every now and then, and it is still sitting there. It actually looks pretty decent on the outside (cream color) from

Re: [MBZ] Quality of the 190

2007-12-08 Thread Gary Hurst
that's what i have been told about the old british cars, that americans treated them as if they were pontiacs and suffered accordingly. my guess is that the old british cars really were crap though, but the w201 was a good car. On Dec 8, 2007 6:51 PM, EDWARD DENNIS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >

Re: [MBZ] Quality of the 190

2007-12-08 Thread EDWARD DENNIS
Hi, All of these comparisons have long amused me. I have a friend who still drives a Yugo he paid $500 for 10 years or more ago. Same drive line and body. Consumables replaced as needed. Point is a horse will last you if you care for it. Most people who buy a car never go in the owners ma

Re: [MBZ] 2.6

2007-12-08 Thread OK Don
So, what happened to the quality went to crap after the 124 ? Has experience told us otherwise? Where all the quality issues first year items, that have since been corrected? -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics." -Benjamin Disraeli an

Re: [MBZ] OT:NOAA website

2007-12-08 Thread OK Don
Yet - On Dec 8, 2007 7:20 AM, Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Oh well, I'm not in KS/NE to have to worry about the weather... > -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics." -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 24

Re: [MBZ] local seller on crack

2007-12-08 Thread Mitch Haley
$300 Firm? It could be worth that, depending on how well it runs. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okie

Re: [MBZ] Quality of the 190

2007-12-08 Thread Hendrik & Fay
What exactly is the problem with them in your experience? The motor, the gearbox, the suspension? All these things can be found in the 124 and 123 and nobody is calling them junk. Hendrik Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: > why yes, they were cheaply built, dont seem to hold up as good and other > mode

Re: [MBZ] Quality of the 190

2007-12-08 Thread Hendrik & Fay
Another factor to consider is that the 201 was one the best handling cars that MB built and won a load of touring car titles. It's purpose was to compete with BMW's 3 series in the marketplace. Hendrik M.Affzaal.Khan wrote: > A Classic car magazine voted them as "a car to keep for ever" . > O

Re: [MBZ] Quality of the W201

2007-12-08 Thread Hendrik & Fay
Some say yes and some say no, personally I think they are alright and mine is heading towards 300k km's and still feels tight and no rattles etc. It has to be remembered that the 201 shared a lot of parts with the 124 and that is one of MB's best. Sure they require more super glue to keep togeth

[MBZ] cleaning all day

2007-12-08 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I have spent all day throwing crap away, picking crap up etc. The house is a pit. I have spent a great part of it cleaning out my office. For those who have seen my office, know what Im talking about. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Mat

Re: [MBZ] local seller on crack

2007-12-08 Thread Sunil Hari
think he had an extra zero on there ... On Dec 8, 2007 5:27 PM, Allan Streib <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've noticed a W123 300D sitting in this yard I pass every day on the > way to work. Finally pulled in to take a look at it. It's that > yellow/brown color, fairly solid but some rust visib

Re: [MBZ] MB Diesel Powered Grand Cherokee

2007-12-08 Thread ernest breakfield
according the the very small very faint print at the bottom of this page, it's another 43-state motor. http://www.jeep.com/crd/index.html cheers! e LarryT wrote: > is the Jeep diesel available for sale in all 50 states? or are there 6-8 > states that like to follow in Kalifornia's CARB foots

Re: [MBZ] 190E 2.6

2007-12-08 Thread Hendrik & Fay
In line six cylinder engines can suffer from having the rear cylinders run hotter than the front ones, which leads to an imbalance of cooling action but I would think that the engine designers at MB would have been aware of this and designed the motor in such a way that more cooling was applied

[MBZ] Politics perhaps a 'best left unsaid' to the total list

2007-12-08 Thread Bill
I think that Craig is correct in suggesting that politics are best left off the list mailings. I have some pretty strong leanings myself and I know others here agree with me, and others lean just as far and further the other way. One of the more interesting things I have done this past year is

Re: [MBZ] Saab 95

2007-12-08 Thread Dan Weeks
Back when they were new, in the sixties and very early seventies, the Saab 95 was the car of choice for folks in Maine who lived way up unplowed and or muddy backroads. Before front- and 4wd was ubiquitous, they went just about anywhere, one wheel on the crown, one in a rut. You'd hear what

[MBZ] local seller on crack

2007-12-08 Thread Allan Streib
I've noticed a W123 300D sitting in this yard I pass every day on the way to work. Finally pulled in to take a look at it. It's that yellow/brown color, fairly solid but some rust visible low on the quarter panels, damage on the passenger front door (sheet metal bent up and rusting, door

Re: [MBZ] Moosemount!

2007-12-08 Thread Chuck Landenberger
Hey guys. Try this... http://www.snopes.com/photos/animals/ moosemount.asp For all you moose lovers out there. Chuck ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts

Re: [MBZ] Johnny B pix

2007-12-08 Thread Bill
Yes, I think the 'village idiot' stuff is not a good play here. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Craig McCluskey Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 11:54 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Johnny B pix On Sat, 8 Dec 200

Re: [MBZ] Kaleb Christmas Fund

2007-12-08 Thread Peter Frederick
I had to use two keys for the 220D for a while -- the ignition cylinder would not release the key!. I would turn off the alternator, etc, but the key wouldn't come out, and I was expecting to have to drill out the latching mechanism when I discovered that it was a broken interlock cable instea

Re: [MBZ] Kaleb Christmas Fund

2007-12-08 Thread Redghost
Gump has an intermittent security feature so that one can remove the key from the ignition, lock up and wander away for a quick meal. At least I thought it was a feature, until one day it refused to allow me to take my keys and walk off. clay On 8 Dec 2007, at 07:27, Jim Cathey wrote: >>

Re: [MBZ] Fwd: John.. You still around??

2007-12-08 Thread Redghost
What in creation is W doing chatting up Raul Castro? clay On 7 Dec 2007, at 20:16, Chuck Landenberger wrote: > Don, > > Let's try this. > > Again. This ain't a political statement... Just > Johnny B with a friend of his.. > > Chuck, > > -- next part

Re: [MBZ] 2.6 overheat?

2007-12-08 Thread RELNGSON
<> I bought one new, drove it nearly seven years and 78K miles in all kinds of weather and temperatures and never had an overheat. I did take care of it, changing the coolant with MB antifreeze every other year. That's hands-on personal experience. RLE *

[MBZ] Moosemount!

2007-12-08 Thread Chuck Landenberger
Hi guys Gives "horny" a new meaning.. http://www.snopes.com/photos/ animals/moosemount.asp From Snopes and verified as "true" Take care, Chuck Phoenix AZ No Meese in my backyard ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see offici

[MBZ] Saab 95

2007-12-08 Thread Curt Raymond
So I checked out the '71 Saab 95 today. V Saabs are such cool little cars, I wish I'd gotten into them earlier although I suspect without the internet it'd be challenging to keep one alive. Anyway, the guy was asking $2250 although he'd take $2000. The car has some rust, mostly surface rust but 3

Re: [MBZ] OT: How much does it cost to build a garage?

2007-12-08 Thread LarryT
I just bought a metal garage. It;s 20x36 with 3 roll up doors and 1 man door. Cost is ~$6200 erected on my level land. Any fdns is up to me - without concrete footings they use trailer hold downs - never had a problem with them lifting even though we get a few hurricanes once in a while. I co

Re: [MBZ] Oil sludge

2007-12-08 Thread LarryT
I talked to a Texaco engineer about this years ago and he said unless the oil being replaced was all leaking, the missine oil was likely the "Light" part of the oil being burned off. So eventally only the "Heavy" part of the oil remained. True, adding new oil replaced some of it but the mixtur

Re: [MBZ] MB Diesel Powered Grand Cherokee

2007-12-08 Thread LarryT
is the Jeep diesel available for sale in all 50 states? or are there 6-8 states that like to follow in Kalifornia's CARB footsteps and limit sales of diesels? Like the new MB Diesel is not sold in Kalif., etc. It's such a sad situation - diesels offer such a great solution to improving the en

Re: [MBZ] [Fwd: THINK TEST...How observant are you?]

2007-12-08 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sat, 08 Dec 2007 13:21:13 -0600 Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What direction does water drain in the Northern Hemisphere?? Downhill, just like everywhere else. Craig > > On Sat, 08 Dec 2007 12:36:14 -0600, Kaleb C. Striplin > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I got 16 correct, alt

Re: [MBZ] [Fwd: THINK TEST...How observant are you?]

2007-12-08 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sat, 08 Dec 2007 12:36:14 -0600 "Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I got 16 correct, although a few I knew but clicked the wrong thing. > > I hear music and see a Google search window and a black square. Is there supposed to be mor

Re: [MBZ] [Fwd: THINK TEST...How observant are you?]

2007-12-08 Thread Luther
What direction does water drain in the Northern Hemisphere?? Luther On Sat, 08 Dec 2007 12:36:14 -0600, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I got 16 correct, although a few I knew but clicked the wrong thing. > > > > > > > > Click on line below >

Re: [MBZ] So gut wie neu

2007-12-08 Thread Jim Cathey
> As it is there's a clean used tank (had been run bio) with a good > sending unit which cost me a little more than a new sending unit alone. > While at it fuels lines were replaced or "blown out." Certainly if you have/had a good line on a decent used tank that's even better. -- Jim __

Re: [MBZ] 126 Gasser

2007-12-08 Thread LarryT
you wrote:<> If I knew the buyer was going to do that I'd consider *very* hard telling the buyer it was no longer for sale! But needing the money I might keep my mouth shut. ;-) Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://mem

Re: [MBZ] So gut wie neu

2007-12-08 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sat, 08 Dec 2007 12:38:34 -0500 Timothy Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Someone had suggested "inflating the tank." The old tank was pretty > nasty inside, the sending unit was crushed, broken into pieces... there > was a concern if the old tank would be weaker after having been crumpled

Re: [MBZ] [Fwd: THINK TEST...How observant are you?]

2007-12-08 Thread Dave H...
17 and I tried.LOL Dave H... -- From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 1:36 PM To: "Banned List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "mercedes Mailing List" ; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [MBZ] [Fwd: THINK TEST...How o

[MBZ] [Fwd: THINK TEST...How observant are you?]

2007-12-08 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I got 16 correct, although a few I knew but clicked the wrong thing. Click on line below A Think Test . ___

Re: [MBZ] So gut wie neu

2007-12-08 Thread Timothy Robinson
Someone had suggested "inflating the tank." The old tank was pretty nasty inside, the sending unit was crushed, broken into pieces... there was a concern if the old tank would be weaker after having been crumpled to half it's size. It had even torn loose from mounting. As it is there's a clean use

Re: [MBZ] IowaQ quotes

2007-12-08 Thread Curt Raymond
Not in the traditional sense no. One word, guns. I really like guns, oh and hunting. And trucks, and snowmobiles and tractors and you get the idea. Oh I like being clean too. The hippy festival is actually the "North Quabbin Garlic and Arts Festival" which is a riot and does attact a large numb

Re: [MBZ] Speaking of garages....

2007-12-08 Thread Curt Raymond
S'matter of fact it is. I just came inside from changing the choke cable on an old Polaris. Then rode it around the yard on our piddling bit of snow... -Curt Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2007 09:05:12 -0600 From: "Tom Hargrave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Speaking of garages To: "'Mercedes D

Re: [MBZ] OT: More Saab guidance needed (hey Mitch!)

2007-12-08 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Dec 8, 2007 6:08 AM, Sunil Hari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Offer her $250 due to the poor condition and unknown sounds. The reverse > thing -could- be part of the Saab interlock "feature" - you can't take out > the key without the gear lever in reverse. Could be something related to > that.

Re: [MBZ] Johnny B pix

2007-12-08 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sat, 8 Dec 2007 11:42:29 -0500 "Glenn Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Johnny B. will be head and shoulders taller in historical stature than > the dolt he's standing next to. There are those of us who strenuously disagree with that statement. This is probably a subject that's best left alo

Re: [MBZ] 1985 300SD(126) Climate control repairs

2007-12-08 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
You have to remove the side carpet cover from the center console. George Larribeau wrote: > I have what appears to be ether a lose hose or maybe a bad vacuum 'pod'. I > think it is some kind of leak (hose) because all of the controls have ceased > functioning. However the heat will still go on an

Re: [MBZ] 1985 300SD(126) Climate control repairs

2007-12-08 Thread George Larribeau
I have what appears to be ether a lose hose or maybe a bad vacuum 'pod'. I think it is some kind of leak (hose) because all of the controls have ceased functioning. However the heat will still go on an off but the vents are stuck. Am going through the vacuum testing pdfs 83-614,615,620and 622. 83-

Re: [MBZ] Quality of the 190

2007-12-08 Thread Gary Hurst
they were built in different factories, which could make a difference. the 124 feels more substantial. i guess the real question is whether you want smaller/lighter or bigger/heavier. also, be aware that they are really pretty small cars, the 201, so realize that the size feel is more chevette t

[MBZ] Johnny B pix

2007-12-08 Thread Glenn Brown
Johnny B. will be head and shoulders taller in historical stature than the dolt he's standing next to. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [MBZ] Quality of the 190

2007-12-08 Thread Gary Hurst
it felt a bit tinny. otherwise, seems to have the same quality. On Dec 8, 2007 4:10 AM, Zoltan Finks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is a good time to ask a question I have had for a while regarding the > 201: > > Since it was the compact - the "Baby Benz" - the entry level Mercedes, was > the

Re: [MBZ] So gut wie neu

2007-12-08 Thread Jim Cathey
> I would have drilled a vent hole in the fuel cap and plugged in > a rubber tipped blower nozzle to reinflate the crumpled tank. No need to do that, just go find the line to the (failed) breather and use that to blow it up. You've got to take that off anyway to replace it or it'll just do it aga

Re: [MBZ] Kaleb Christmas Fund

2007-12-08 Thread Tom Hargrave
What year is the Mercedes you are working on? Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Cathey Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 10:02 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Kaleb C

Re: [MBZ] Kaleb Christmas Fund

2007-12-08 Thread Peter Frederick
Not if you have a pull knob starter! Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/list

Re: [MBZ] Kaleb Christmas Fund

2007-12-08 Thread Peter Frederick
It also bypasses the dash indicator for more power to the GP while cranking, too! However, there is a retro-fit "fast glow" kit that replaces the series plugs with pencil type parallel ones, come with plugs, relay, and new keyswitch. This is your only option of the pull knob switch fails, as t

Re: [MBZ] Chubby/Cummins

2007-12-08 Thread Mitch Haley
Luther wrote: > > http://stlouis.craigslist.org/car/495289622.html I believe a "P30" is a "bread truck" or "Frito truck". 4BT is common in those, but most had TH400 3sp auto tranny instead of a 4sp stick. Lots of fun projects one could engage in with that drivetrain. You might even be able to k

Re: [MBZ] So gut wie neu

2007-12-08 Thread Mitch Haley
Timothy Robinson wrote: > > So now the ole "drug car" drives as good as new. I would have drilled a vent hole in the fuel cap and plugged in a rubber tipped blower nozzle to reinflate the crumpled tank. Best case, it works, and you don't need another tank. Worst case, still need a new tank and h

[MBZ] So gut wie neu

2007-12-08 Thread Timothy Robinson
So now the ole "drug car" drives as good as new. I bought another '85 300D this summer. The guy who sold it was "motivated" and I got it at a cheap price later to discover the fuel tank was imploded due to a clogged vent line. (The seller had discovered the space and assumed it was done to allow r

Re: [MBZ] Kaleb Christmas Fund

2007-12-08 Thread Jim Cathey
> The same knob also turns the IP on & off & sets it to deliver more fuel > while you are cranking. You can not bypass the knob without replacing > these > functions. Those functions are already taken care of by the IP and key vacuum switch. No problem, there. -- Jim _

[MBZ] Chubby/Cummins

2007-12-08 Thread Luther
http://stlouis.craigslist.org/car/495289622.html Interesting -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine _

Re: [MBZ] Kaleb Christmas Fund

2007-12-08 Thread Tom Hargrave
The same knob also turns the IP on & off & sets it to deliver more fuel while you are cranking. You can not bypass the knob without replacing these functions. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf

Re: [MBZ] Kaleb Christmas Fund

2007-12-08 Thread Jim Cathey
> The pull-start knob also has an interlock cable that goes over > to the key switch that prevents it from turning off while the > engine is still running. I don't suppose you'd need to hook > it up. Now that I think about it, I believe that same cable prevents the knob from being pulled until th

Re: [MBZ] Kaleb Christmas Fund

2007-12-08 Thread Jim Cathey
> You gonna bypass the plug inside the knob, or just run a volt or > two less to the parallel plugs? The extra plug ('salt-shaker') is not inside the knob. The pull-start knob also has an interlock cable that goes over to the key switch that prevents it from turning off while the engine is still

Re: [MBZ] Kaleb Christmas Fund

2007-12-08 Thread Tom Hargrave
I agree, do it right. The system works great when everything is correct. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Cathey Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 9:27 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List

Re: [MBZ] Quality of the 190

2007-12-08 Thread Peter Frederick
Rumor aside, I think the 190 is the same build quality as the W124, uses the same materials, etc, but are usually not well maintained unless owned by a previous Mercedes owner. Maintained like a Ford, they fall apart like a Ford. Properly cared for, they are the full equivalent to the W124, a

Re: [MBZ] IowaQ quotes

2007-12-08 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Curt, are you a hippie? Curt Raymond wrote: > My '83 240D with snowtires was one of the best go-anywhere vehicles I've ever > had. > 2 winters ago it snowed about 18" while I was at work. When I came out to go > home the plow guy said he'd get a chain and pull me out. I just hopped in, > fired

Re: [MBZ] Kaleb Christmas Fund

2007-12-08 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I do every now and then. Curt Raymond wrote: > Do you sell many used radiators? Seems like it would be hard to price one low > enough to make it worth it, they're so fragile. > > -Curt > > -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D

Re: [MBZ] Quality of the 190

2007-12-08 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
why yes, they were cheaply built, dont seem to hold up as good and other models. Zoltan Finks wrote: > This is a good time to ask a question I have had for a while regarding the > 201: > > Since it was the compact - the "Baby Benz" - the entry level Mercedes, was > the quality lower in any way?

Re: [MBZ] Kaleb Christmas Fund

2007-12-08 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I see. So you need the whole switch assembly then? Wonko the Sane wrote: > Were you checking emails today at all? I want to bypass the glow plug relay > and hot-wire glow plugs to 12VDC during the winter months so I control the > glow time. > > On Dec 7, 2007 11:01 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL

Re: [MBZ] Speaking of garages....

2007-12-08 Thread Tom Hargrave
Just curious, is this your web site? Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 8:52 AM To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Speaking of garages Lu

Re: [MBZ] Speaking of garages....

2007-12-08 Thread Mitch Haley
Curt Raymond wrote: > > Holy snot! I'd like to have space here for something like that. However > I'm not even sure I'll be able to take my 1 car out to a 2 car what with > setback rules and all that... Here's some two story ideas: http://www.menards.com/featuredProjects.do?dispatch=showGarageL

Re: [MBZ] Quality of the 190

2007-12-08 Thread Curt Raymond
I agree, my 190D was woefully neglected by the PO and it took $$ to bring it up even to my admittedly low standards. Since thats happened I've put very little cash into it. Today its getting snowtires which will be the first major expense since the replacement rear links last spring. Oh wait, I

Re: [MBZ] Speaking of garages....

2007-12-08 Thread Curt Raymond
Luxury... http://deadsledwrenchers.net/house/drive.jpg Nominal 1 car garage with a shed thing tacked on the back where I store the motorcycles in the winter and snow equipment in the summer. Oh, thats not me in the picture, the woman is my wife, the young guy is out realtor... -Curt Date: Fri,

Re: [MBZ] MBZ] 'Hard' starts on a cold engine

2007-12-08 Thread Bill
Sounds like I will be seeing my indy on Monday. Thanks - BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 9:28 AM To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] MBZ] 'Hard' starts on a cold engine Quits if you tak

Re: [MBZ] Quality of the 190

2007-12-08 Thread M.Affzaal.Khan
A Classic car magazine voted them as "a car to keep for ever" . Overengineered and superb build quality of 201. mak - Original Message - From: "Sunil Hari" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 7:11 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Quality of the 1

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