Re: [MBZ] Slow to shut off W123
Well the stop lever is limited in travel by the valve cover, the shutoff is internal to the engine. I suppose I could unhook the linkage and see what happens. I also wonder if it is because of the amount of fuel I am delivering. -Rolf Craig McCluskey wrote: On Thu, 11 Jun 2009 00:01:19 -0400 Rolf Martin-Hoster r...@winmutt.com wrote: Before you say anything it is NOT a vac problem. I can pull 25 on the diaphragm without issue. Even tested a spare diaphragm. My linkage is a bit wonky and I can't stop with the stop lever either. Could the two be related? Need you ask? If you can't push the stop lever and have the car stop, neither can the shutoff diaphragm. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] The Final Flight...
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[MBZ] 1994 S320
After the Compass / CVR / Rav4 /Subaru looking one of the folks my wife works with just listed a 1994 S320 for $5,500, but 'will make me a good deal on it'. It is a third car and is not being driven. From the total mileage it has been driven less than 10k per year over its life. He had the transmission redone last year - and [unfortunately] put on new 20 tires and custom rims. He says the paint and interior are perfect and everything works. He also claims to be able to get as high as 28 MPG highway with an easy foot on the pedal, but does say when you put your foot in it, it does not get good mileage. I suspect the rims will probably turn us off, but if the rest of the car is not too scary we might pay to have an evaluation done. I can't recall if this is one of the ones with wiring harness problems, and I know that this model has a history of evaporator problems and I think oil leaks from the head. What other thoughts about the good and bad do you have about this car? Thanks - BillR -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090611/034667de/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1994 S320
Everyone needs to drive a W140 at some point in their life. You will only get close to 28mpg going down hill - but that won't matter after your have been driving it for a while. -Dave Walton On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 9:32 AM, Bill Rbillr32...@comcast.net wrote: After the Compass / CVR / Rav4 /Subaru looking one of the folks my wife works with just listed a 1994 S320 for $5,500, but 'will make me a good deal on it'. It is a third car and is not being driven. From the total mileage it has been driven less than 10k per year over its life. He had the transmission redone last year - and [unfortunately] put on new 20 tires and custom rims. He says the paint and interior are perfect and everything works. He also claims to be able to get as high as 28 MPG highway with an easy foot on the pedal, but does say when you put your foot in it, it does not get good mileage. I suspect the rims will probably turn us off, but if the rest of the car is not too scary we might pay to have an evaluation done. I can't recall if this is one of the ones with wiring harness problems, and I know that this model has a history of evaporator problems and I think oil leaks from the head. What other thoughts about the good and bad do you have about this car? Thanks - BillR -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090611/034667de/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The Final Flight...
Precarious! Mitch. archer wrote: URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090611/6533e268/attachment.jpe ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1994 S320
I wouldn't be caught near it with those 20 wheels on it - somebody may interpret it as approval. Did they save the original wheels? Wilton - Original Message - From: Bill R billr32...@comcast.net To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com; 'Banned List' ban...@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 9:32 AM Subject: [MBZ] 1994 S320 After the Compass / CVR / Rav4 /Subaru looking one of the folks my wife works with just listed a 1994 S320 for $5,500, but 'will make me a good deal on it'. It is a third car and is not being driven. From the total mileage it has been driven less than 10k per year over its life. He had the transmission redone last year - and [unfortunately] put on new 20 tires and custom rims. He says the paint and interior are perfect and everything works. He also claims to be able to get as high as 28 MPG highway with an easy foot on the pedal, but does say when you put your foot in it, it does not get good mileage. I suspect the rims will probably turn us off, but if the rest of the car is not too scary we might pay to have an evaluation done. I can't recall if this is one of the ones with wiring harness problems, and I know that this model has a history of evaporator problems and I think oil leaks from the head. What other thoughts about the good and bad do you have about this car? Thanks - BillR -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090611/034667de/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The Final Flight...
Cool! A cargo-cult house. I wonder if it has a nice big off-grid generator in the tail? Complete with hydraulics? :-) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The Final Flight...
Hope it's not an Airbus hull, and a storm comes up... --R Jim Cathey wrote: Cool! A cargo-cult house. I wonder if it has a nice big off-grid generator in the tail? Complete with hydraulics? :-) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1994 S320
I have not asked, but I'd sure start there. BillR -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of WILTON Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 9:57 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1994 S320 I wouldn't be caught near it with those 20 wheels on it - somebody may interpret it as approval. Did they save the original wheels? Wilton - Original Message - From: Bill R billr32...@comcast.net To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com; 'Banned List' ban...@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 9:32 AM Subject: [MBZ] 1994 S320 After the Compass / CVR / Rav4 /Subaru looking one of the folks my wife works with just listed a 1994 S320 for $5,500, but 'will make me a good deal on it'. It is a third car and is not being driven. From the total mileage it has been driven less than 10k per year over its life. He had the transmission redone last year - and [unfortunately] put on new 20 tires and custom rims. He says the paint and interior are perfect and everything works. He also claims to be able to get as high as 28 MPG highway with an easy foot on the pedal, but does say when you put your foot in it, it does not get good mileage. I suspect the rims will probably turn us off, but if the rest of the car is not too scary we might pay to have an evaluation done. I can't recall if this is one of the ones with wiring harness problems, and I know that this model has a history of evaporator problems and I think oil leaks from the head. What other thoughts about the good and bad do you have about this car? Thanks - BillR -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090611/03 4667de/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 Door full of water
I endeavor to be accurate. --R andrew strasfogel wrote: Rich, I am beginning to think you are not taking this seriously enough. On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 10:00 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: 73.27 --R andrew strasfogel wrote: With enough stimulus $$ I can make water do anything I want it to. Seriously, what percentage of wet rear foot wells in W123 cars is a result of a FRONT WINDSHIELD rather than a REAR DOOR leak? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090610/d1809ee1/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090611/bd582406/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1994 S320
I've always loved the cars, and even looked a couple a few months back. Wheels aren't at big deal as I'm sure there are lots of original ones around for not a lot of money. I see original rims on Craig's list all the time. I'm not 100%, but I think the wiring issues were '92-'95, but I'd double check that. Many say the car struggles with the 6 cylinder, and the 8 gives a lot more grunt for not a lot of extra fuel. The car is more at home on the highway, than climbing mountain passes. Not a cheap car to run when things go wrong, but considering it was probably one of the best cars made, it was never intended to be run on a budget. If I could find a really good one, with all papers showing it had been loved over the years, I'd take it. Ed 300E 2009/6/11 Bill R billr32...@comcast.net I have not asked, but I'd sure start there. BillR -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of WILTON Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 9:57 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1994 S320 I wouldn't be caught near it with those 20 wheels on it - somebody may interpret it as approval. Did they save the original wheels? Wilton - Original Message - From: Bill R billr32...@comcast.net To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com; 'Banned List' ban...@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 9:32 AM Subject: [MBZ] 1994 S320 After the Compass / CVR / Rav4 /Subaru looking one of the folks my wife works with just listed a 1994 S320 for $5,500, but 'will make me a good deal on it'. It is a third car and is not being driven. From the total mileage it has been driven less than 10k per year over its life. He had the transmission redone last year - and [unfortunately] put on new 20 tires and custom rims. He says the paint and interior are perfect and everything works. He also claims to be able to get as high as 28 MPG highway with an easy foot on the pedal, but does say when you put your foot in it, it does not get good mileage. I suspect the rims will probably turn us off, but if the rest of the car is not too scary we might pay to have an evaluation done. I can't recall if this is one of the ones with wiring harness problems, and I know that this model has a history of evaporator problems and I think oil leaks from the head. What other thoughts about the good and bad do you have about this car? Thanks - BillR -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090611/03 4667de/attachment.htmlhttp://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090611/03%0A4667de/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090611/e088f5f7/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The Final Flight...
I guess I now know what the neighbor down the road is going to do. Out here in the middle of flat land corn country - certainly not with the vista of this house, but... there is an airplane body (727 size?, no wings) sitting at the nearby equestrian farm down the road. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ford Diesel with chocolate milk for oil
Or corroded head if aluminum. Although not likely given age of truck.
--- On Mon, 6/8/09, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:
From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com
Subject: [MBZ] Ford Diesel with chocolate milk for oil
To: mercedes list mercedes@okiebenz.com
Date: Monday, June 8, 2009, 1:58 PM
'Coupla days ago, friend at lunch said his Ford Diesel crew cab pickup ('bout
an '07 45 kmi) was running rough and blowing/billowing blue/gray smoke. I
asked him to check oil for water/foam/chocolate milk, etc., and has he had to
add water recently. Yes, added water coupla days before. At lunch today, he
said, Yep, it has chocolate milk for oil and is blowing oil out tailpipe.
Possible blown head gasket or even cracked head and/or block?
Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] The Final Flight...
I thought it was sort of neat until I saw the inside. Somehow, the cottagy wood look does not really suit the high tech exterior look. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The Final Flight...
R A Bennell wrote: I thought it was sort of neat until I saw the inside. Somehow, the cottagy wood look does not really suit the high tech exterior look. This one is way better. They kept as much of the ultra expensive aerospace quality bits as possible: http://www.airplanehome.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 Door full of water
I don't see any any drain holes inside the RF door. The bottom inside of the door cavity appears solid. Also, when I opened the LR door this AM rain water that was trapped spilled out but from the rear edge, and there was no sloshing behind the door panel. Can you explain this? On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 12:20 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I endeavor to be accurate. --R andrew strasfogel wrote: Rich, I am beginning to think you are not taking this seriously enough. On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 10:00 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: 73.27 --R andrew strasfogel wrote: With enough stimulus $$ I can make water do anything I want it to. Seriously, what percentage of wet rear foot wells in W123 cars is a result of a FRONT WINDSHIELD rather than a REAR DOOR leak? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090610/d1809ee1/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090611/bd582406/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090611/239d1884/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 Door full of water
Yes. --R andrew strasfogel wrote: I don't see any any drain holes inside the RF door. The bottom inside of the door cavity appears solid. Also, when I opened the LR door this AM rain water that was trapped spilled out but from the rear edge, and there was no sloshing behind the door panel. Can you explain this? On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 12:20 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I endeavor to be accurate. --R andrew strasfogel wrote: Rich, I am beginning to think you are not taking this seriously enough. On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 10:00 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: 73.27 --R andrew strasfogel wrote: With enough stimulus $$ I can make water do anything I want it to. Seriously, what percentage of wet rear foot wells in W123 cars is a result of a FRONT WINDSHIELD rather than a REAR DOOR leak? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090610/d1809ee1/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090611/bd582406/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090611/239d1884/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090611/1f9e26cd/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 Door full of water
OK - go ahead. On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 3:59 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Yes. --R andrew strasfogel wrote: I don't see any any drain holes inside the RF door. The bottom inside of the door cavity appears solid. Also, when I opened the LR door this AM rain water that was trapped spilled out but from the rear edge, and there was no sloshing behind the door panel. Can you explain this? On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 12:20 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I endeavor to be accurate. --R andrew strasfogel wrote: Rich, I am beginning to think you are not taking this seriously enough. On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 10:00 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: 73.27 --R andrew strasfogel wrote: With enough stimulus $$ I can make water do anything I want it to. Seriously, what percentage of wet rear foot wells in W123 cars is a result of a FRONT WINDSHIELD rather than a REAR DOOR leak? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090610/d1809ee1/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090611/bd582406/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090611/239d1884/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090611/1f9e26cd/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090611/23004bf7/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] O/T Hi mileage Duramax
I'm looking very hard at a 2004 Duramax/Allison. Any chance of this being a long life set-up? Aluminum head scare me a little. Truck has received proper service, looks very sweet. -- Pete Arnold This e-mail from Peter Arnold and any attachments to it are confidential to the intended recipient and may also be uncensored. If you have received it in error please consult your religious adviser. If you are not the intended recipient, why have you read this far? Please do not staple, spindle or otherwise mutilate this document, doing so may damage your screen. All communications may be subject to interception or monitoring by the men in black helicopters for security purposes. Please rely on your own swine flu virus checking as the sender cannot accept any liability for any damage arising from any bug or virus infection. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 Door full of water
I am guessing (without actually examining the patient) that a door seal is not, and water is getting in behind and running down the door to be trapped below. Water can be funny, capillary action can actually draw it uphill a bit (contravening my previous statement about water flowing downhill, though that is its preferred mode of travel). First thing I would do is take some paper or something, see if you can slide it in between seals and frame easily, that will show a gap where water can migrate. Do you see wetness anywhere else on the door frame/seal above where the water is? Next thing is to look at the door window seals, it might still be getting in around there somehow, but how it is getting down inside is a mystery, unless... I would also look more closely at the door inside drains, make sure you have them open (and they should be there, small, but there). The only other thing I can think of is water getting in the vent holes back behind the rear side glass, where the gutters are, and somehow getting down near the doors, or maybe the side back window seals near the door, running in there somehow. You could do some spot testing with a hose once everything dries out, just direct a stream of water here and there, see if it results in the result you are seeing. --R andrew strasfogel wrote: OK - go ahead. On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 3:59 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Yes. --R andrew strasfogel wrote: I don't see any any drain holes inside the RF door. The bottom inside of the door cavity appears solid. Also, when I opened the LR door this AM rain water that was trapped spilled out but from the rear edge, and there was no sloshing behind the door panel. Can you explain this? On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 12:20 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I endeavor to be accurate. --R andrew strasfogel wrote: Rich, I am beginning to think you are not taking this seriously enough. On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 10:00 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: 73.27 --R andrew strasfogel wrote: With enough stimulus $$ I can make water do anything I want it to. Seriously, what percentage of wet rear foot wells in W123 cars is a result of a FRONT WINDSHIELD rather than a REAR DOOR leak? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090610/d1809ee1/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090611/bd582406/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090611/239d1884/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090611/1f9e26cd/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090611/23004bf7/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go
[MBZ] OT: Rental car this week
So this week I'm back in southern California. I flew in late on Monday thinking I would get a better rental car, WRONG! I've got a PT Cruiser. Actually if I'm honest I'll admit that its not anywhere near as crappy a car as I thought it'd be. Its UGLY sure, and the headrests are about the most uncomfortable I've ever seen... The floor mounted shifter is kinda cool, the gauges are mostly obscured by the steering wheel and the radio controls are annoying although it does have an aux jack... I'll tell you what though, I've been thrashing the crap out of the thing, every freeway onramp I've taken has been at full throttle and the thing that surprises me is that there isn't the torque steer I'd expect from such a reasonably powerful small car... I wouldn't buy one but its not all that bad a car. -Curt -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090611/f4c75357/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 Door full of water
Because the drains don't appear to be there does not mean they are not supposed to be there. They could be plugged up with bondo, or rustproofing or some other combination of gunk. The bottom of the door WAS built with drain holes. Door rust generally starts around the drains. At 02:42 PM 6/11/2009, you wrote: I don't see any any drain holes inside the RF door. The bottom inside of the door cavity appears solid. Also, when I opened the LR door this AM rain water that was trapped spilled out but from the rear edge, and there was no sloshing behind the door panel. Can you explain this? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Rental car this week
I had one of those a year or two ago in BNA, and even though I have a fairly skinny butt the seats felt like I was sitting in a 5 gal bucket. I can't imagine a fatass sitting in one, though I guess the padding would help. I thought it was buzzy and noisy, and the radio was not particularly intuitive (whatever happened to a tuning knob and a volume knob and a few buttons to push/hold to set for the stations?). Once I figured it out it sorta made sense in a Chinglish kind of way. The first one I got from the rental place (just a few thou miles on it), I got about 100 ft and the RF half shaft/CV was clunking and screeching, so I went back and got another one. (CV joint, whussat? Uh, that means the wheel might break or fall off if I hit a good bump.) When I got back a couple days later they still had that first one on the rental lot. But you are right it was a reasonable mover and easy on gas. --R Curt Raymond wrote: So this week I'm back in southern California. I flew in late on Monday thinking I would get a better rental car, WRONG! I've got a PT Cruiser. Actually if I'm honest I'll admit that its not anywhere near as crappy a car as I thought it'd be. Its UGLY sure, and the headrests are about the most uncomfortable I've ever seen... The floor mounted shifter is kinda cool, the gauges are mostly obscured by the steering wheel and the radio controls are annoying although it does have an aux jack... I'll tell you what though, I've been thrashing the crap out of the thing, every freeway onramp I've taken has been at full throttle and the thing that surprises me is that there isn't the torque steer I'd expect from such a reasonably powerful small car... I wouldn't buy one but its not all that bad a car. -Curt -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090611/f4c75357/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Slow to shut off W123
On Thu, 11 Jun 2009 07:26:10 -0400 Rolf r...@winmutt.com wrote: Well the stop lever is limited in travel by the valve cover, Not on any W123 I've seen ... the shutoff is internal to the engine. The shutoff is inside the injection pump, not the engine. I suppose I could unhook the linkage and see what happens. Make sure you have some wrenches readily available to make sure the engine doesn't run away. I also wonder if it is because of the amount of fuel I am delivering. If you have monkeyed with the injection pump, all bets are off. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cash for clunkers
My $229 pickup might be headed for the crusher (12 mpg). A newer pickup would be nice. Debbie and I have joked quite a few times that our next new car would be a pickup. On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 11:45 PM, Redghost redgh...@comcast.net wrote: I am now thinking I should trade Gump in for new car. But where will I find anything worth driving that has as much class and is not plastic? A tinny toyota instead of Gump, just to get 28mpg? clay -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090611/79bc766f/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cash for clunkers
Wonko wrote: Debbie and I have joked quite a few times that our next new car would be a pickup. A true environmentalist solution. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 Door full of water
I don't see any any drain holes inside the RF door. The bottom inside of the door cavity appears solid. Shouldn't be, modulo cheap-ass bodywork. Take a hose and fill the door through the removed door panel. It should empty right out. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The Final Flight...
I thought it was sort of neat until I saw the inside. Somehow, the cottagy wood look does not really suit the high tech exterior look. Yeah, it should have age-appropriate tubular steel furniture, and maybe some egg and beanbag chairs... I liked the wood. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cash for clunkers
Depends on the MPG. Some new ones beat what my 240D offers in fuel economy. I have no problem with a four cylinder, manual tranny pickup. It isn't like I plan to haul a fifth-wheel trailer or drag scrap iron in the pickup. I am more tree branches and grass clippings (all to be composted, by the way). On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 7:29 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: Wonko wrote: Debbie and I have joked quite a few times that our next new car would be a pickup. A true environmentalist solution. mao -- The young officer thought it very odd that his captain seemed to trust and confide in his chiefs more than his wardroom, but mustang officers had their own ways. -- Tom Clancy, Clear and Present Danger. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090611/d0377b36/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Rental car this week
My wife has 100Kmi on hers. She thinks its wonderful. One $1000 repair to a water leak at the front of engine. Pete Curt Raymond wrote: So this week I'm back in southern California. I flew in late on Monday thinking I would get a better rental car, WRONG! I've got a PT Cruiser. Actually if I'm honest I'll admit that its not anywhere near as crappy a car as I thought it'd be. Its UGLY sure, and the headrests are about the most uncomfortable I've ever seen... The floor mounted shifter is kinda cool, the gauges are mostly obscured by the steering wheel and the radio controls are annoying although it does have an aux jack... I'll tell you what though, I've been thrashing the crap out of the thing, every freeway onramp I've taken has been at full throttle and the thing that surprises me is that there isn't the torque steer I'd expect from such a reasonably powerful small car... I wouldn't buy one but its not all that bad a car. -Curt -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090611/f4c75357/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] our 190D starts to burn oil
The 5w40 has better ability to suspend soot... Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 08:15:56 To: Diesel Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] our 190D starts to burn oil What advantage do you see in the 5w40? I use it but only because its usually slightly cheaper and is better in the cold here in New England but other than that I see no real advantage. I use 15w50 in my garden tractor because it leaks less but still starts better at -10F than 10w40 conventional oil. 5w40 M1 *might* have slightly better (or stronger) cleaning action but thats a big might... -Curt Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2009 10:59:54 -0700 From: tyler casi...@usermail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] our 190D starts to burn oil To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: 4a26ba1a.9020...@usermail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed You'd probably be better off with 5w40 Turbo Diesel Truck than 15w50. There's a good chance that your oil burning is caused by stuck rings. I would try to run it hard as often as possible, and keep running Mobil 1 (hopefully 5w40). The carbon could clean out, and your compression return. If your crankcase breather is clogged, it can also cause the blowby gases to force out past the oil seals, and make the engine blow oil out on the ground. This could be the cause of your oil loss, and the blue smoke could be an injection system issue. I suppose it is possible for the engine to be just worn out also, with 300k miles! Tyler -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090604/28613c63/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 Door full of water
Look up under it from the underside/outside; 3 or 4 holes along underside outboard of the door seal. They may not be straight through (vertical) through the bottom; 'may be canted to one side but in the bottom of the door. Wilton - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 3:42 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 Door full of water I don't see any any drain holes inside the RF door. The bottom inside of the door cavity appears solid. Also, when I opened the LR door this AM rain water that was trapped spilled out but from the rear edge, and there was no sloshing behind the door panel. Can you explain this? On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 12:20 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I endeavor to be accurate. --R andrew strasfogel wrote: Rich, I am beginning to think you are not taking this seriously enough. On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 10:00 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: 73.27 --R andrew strasfogel wrote: With enough stimulus $$ I can make water do anything I want it to. Seriously, what percentage of wet rear foot wells in W123 cars is a result of a FRONT WINDSHIELD rather than a REAR DOOR leak? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090610/d1809ee1/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090611/bd582406/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090611/239d1884/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cash for clunkers
How do you manage to compost tree branches? I can't even get eggshells to decompose... On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 9:00 PM, Wonko the Sane don.b...@gmail.com wrote: Depends on the MPG. Some new ones beat what my 240D offers in fuel economy. I have no problem with a four cylinder, manual tranny pickup. It isn't like I plan to haul a fifth-wheel trailer or drag scrap iron in the pickup. I am more tree branches and grass clippings (all to be composted, by the way). On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 7:29 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: Wonko wrote: Debbie and I have joked quite a few times that our next new car would be a pickup. A true environmentalist solution. mao -- The young officer thought it very odd that his captain seemed to trust and confide in his chiefs more than his wardroom, but mustang officers had their own ways. -- Tom Clancy, Clear and Present Danger. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090611/d0377b36/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090611/1f1a4381/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1994 S320
I think most of the electrical harness issues were with the 94 to 96 gas cars.? This I understand will go bad if it has not already been replaced.? I had a 94 e320 and it had the harness replaced.? I also had a 94 c280 and it had not had the harness replaced but had the check engine lite on most of the year that I owned.? It was never a significant problem, but it only had about 120k miles on it.? I understand that as they get older the isulation on the harness gets more brittle, shorts more and more and deteriorates after that.? I understand also that the actuator switch for the accelerator can go bad also.? When I bought mine, I took it to the local MB dealer and that is how I found out both the accellerator switch and harness had been replaced on my e320.? my 2 cents, hope is helpful -Original Message- From: E M pokieba...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 12:08 pm Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1994 S320 I've always loved the cars, and even looked a couple a few months back. Wheels aren't at big deal as I'm sure there are lots of original ones around for not a lot of money. I see original rims on Craig's list all the time. I'm not 100%, but I think the wiring issues were '92-'95, but I'd double check that. Many say the car struggles with the 6 cylinder, and the 8 gives a lot more grunt for not a lot of extra fuel. The car is more at home on the highway, than climbing mountain passes. Not a cheap car to run when things go wrong, but considering it was probably one of the best cars made, it was never intended to be run on a budget. If I could find a really good one, with all papers showing it had been loved over the years, I'd take it. Ed 300E 2009/6/11 Bill R billr32...@comcast.net I have not asked, but I'd sure start there. BillR -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of WILTON Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 9:57 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1994 S320 I wouldn't be caught near it with those 20 wheels on it - somebody may interpret it as approval. Did they save the original wheels? Wilton - Original Message - From: Bill R billr32...@comcast.net To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com; 'Banned List' ban...@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 9:32 AM Subject: [MBZ] 1994 S320 After the Compass / CVR / Rav4 /Subaru looking one of the folks my wife works with just listed a 1994 S320 for $5,500, but 'will make me a good deal on it'. It is a third car and is not being driven. From the total mileage it has been driven less than 10k per year over its life. He had the transmission redone last year - and [unfortunately] put on new 20 tires and custom rims. He says the paint and interior are perfect and everything works. He also claims to be able to get as high as 28 MPG highway with an easy foot on the pedal, but does say when you put your foot in it, it does not get good mileage. I suspect the rims will probably turn us off, but if the rest of the car is not too scary we might pay to have an evaluation done. I can't recall if this is one of the ones with wiring harness problems, and I know that this model has a history of evaporator problems and I think oil leaks from the head. What other thoughts about the good and bad do you have about this car? Thanks - BillR -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090611/03 4667de/attachment.htmlhttp://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090611/03%0A4667de/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090611/e088f5f7/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.oki ebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive
Re: [MBZ] Slow to shut off W123
Craig McCluskey wrote: On Thu, 11 Jun 2009 07:26:10 -0400 Rolf r...@winmutt.com wrote: Well the stop lever is limited in travel by the valve cover, Not on any W123 I've seen ... Like I said it was a bit wonky. the shutoff is internal to the engine. The shutoff is inside the injection pump, not the engine. Yes IP, sorry. Still don't see how the two can be connected really but I'll readjust per the manual. When I say slow to shutoff I mean you kill the switch and it runs through another 5 cylinders worth of fuel. What I really need is manual trans linkage... -Rolf ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1994 S320
I was waay off on the price for that 300TD. The seller never responded to my questions - which kept me from bidding. I replaced the glow plug and engine wiring harness on my 94 S350 shortly after I got it (2001?). The insulation was cracking and exposed bare copper. They must have used the same source for both diesel and gas vehicles. Had to replace the kickdown switch in 2005 or so, but the normal position of the accelerator is firmly against the floor so that was no surprise. -Dave Walton On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 10:50 PM, drcscru...@aol.com wrote: I think most of the electrical harness issues were with the 94 to 96 gas cars.? This I understand will go bad if it has not already been replaced.? I had a 94 e320 and it had the harness replaced.? I also had a 94 c280 and it had not had the harness replaced but had the check engine lite on most of the year that I owned.? It was never a significant problem, but it only had about 120k miles on it.? I understand that as they get older the isulation on the harness gets more brittle, shorts more and more and deteriorates after that.? I understand also that the actuator switch for the accelerator can go bad also.? When I bought mine, I took it to the local MB dealer and that is how I found out both the accellerator switch and harness had been replaced on my e320.? my 2 cents, hope is helpful -Original Message- From: E M pokieba...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 12:08 pm Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1994 S320 I've always loved the cars, and even looked a couple a few months back. Wheels aren't at big deal as I'm sure there are lots of original ones around for not a lot of money. I see original rims on Craig's list all the time. I'm not 100%, but I think the wiring issues were '92-'95, but I'd double check that. Many say the car struggles with the 6 cylinder, and the 8 gives a lot more grunt for not a lot of extra fuel. The car is more at home on the highway, than climbing mountain passes. Not a cheap car to run when things go wrong, but considering it was probably one of the best cars made, it was never intended to be run on a budget. If I could find a really good one, with all papers showing it had been loved over the years, I'd take it. Ed 300E 2009/6/11 Bill R billr32...@comcast.net I have not asked, but I'd sure start there. BillR -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of WILTON Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 9:57 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1994 S320 I wouldn't be caught near it with those 20 wheels on it - somebody may interpret it as approval. Did they save the original wheels? Wilton - Original Message - From: Bill R billr32...@comcast.net To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com; 'Banned List' ban...@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 9:32 AM Subject: [MBZ] 1994 S320 After the Compass / CVR / Rav4 /Subaru looking one of the folks my wife works with just listed a 1994 S320 for $5,500, but 'will make me a good deal on it'. It is a third car and is not being driven. From the total mileage it has been driven less than 10k per year over its life. He had the transmission redone last year - and [unfortunately] put on new 20 tires and custom rims. He says the paint and interior are perfect and everything works. He also claims to be able to get as high as 28 MPG highway with an easy foot on the pedal, but does say when you put your foot in it, it does not get good mileage. I suspect the rims will probably turn us off, but if the rest of the car is not too scary we might pay to have an evaluation done. I can't recall if this is one of the ones with wiring harness problems, and I know that this model has a history of evaporator problems and I think oil leaks from the head. What other thoughts about the good and bad do you have about this car? Thanks - BillR -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090611/03 4667de/attachment.htmlhttp://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090611/03%0A4667de/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1994 S320
A good 140 is a fabulous car, though a '94 is not quite the best of the bunch. I assume at this point the evaporator and head gasket have been done at least once, but check the records. Also, check the harness. They fare a little better in an S320, with that small engine in a big bay, but they all crumble in the end. There's not much love for the six-pot 140, but they get along just fine and you won't miss a bigger engine in Florida, although you will miss 28mpg as there's just no way. A good deal if he still has the original wheels and it truly is in top notch condition. But a '98 or '99 is still a better car. Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: Slow to shut off W123
Yes IP, sorry. Still don't see how the two can be connected really but I'll readjust per the manual. When I say slow to shutoff I mean you kill the switch and it runs through another 5 cylinders worth of fuel. What I really need is manual trans linkage... Our too-slow-to-shut-off 240D turned out to have a too-small restriction in the vacuum supply line. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1994 S320
exposed bare copper. They must have used the same source for both diesel and gas vehicles. They did. It was a Federal (Germany) requirement, IIRC, to use biodegradable insulation in all cars. But in diesels there's less waste heat, so they don't cook quite so fast. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] transmission flush vs change fluid/filter (Thoughts??)
Does anyone have an opinion on transmission fluid/filter change versus transmission fluid flush?? I am uncertain of what may be the best course of action.? I have a 96 e300d that probably would benefit from one of the two and wanted some thought on which would be the best.? -Original Message- From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 11:38 pm Subject: Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: Slow to shut off W123 Yes IP, sorry. Still don't see how the two can be connected really but I'll readjust per the manual. When I say slow to shutoff I mean you kill the switch and it runs through another 5 cylinders worth of fuel. What I really need is manual trans linkage...? ? Our too-slow-to-shut-off 240D turned out to have a too-small? restriction in the vacuum supply line.? ? -- Jim? ? ? ___? http://www.okiebenz.com? For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com? To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/? ? To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:? http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com? -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090612/a643fc95/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] O/T Hi mileage Duramax
Kaleb will tell you those things are better than electricity. To be honest, I haven't seen one of those in heavy use out here, or with anything resembling high mileage. Think by 04 the injector problems were mostly gone, but am not positive about that. Personally, I do not care for them. On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 04:43:33PM -0400, Peter T. Arnold wrote: I'm looking very hard at a 2004 Duramax/Allison. Any chance of this being a long life set-up? Aluminum head scare me a little. Truck has received proper service, looks very sweet. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
