[MBZ] signing off
I'm off, embarking on the great adventure of moving to Chicago. Next time I'm on I should (hopefully) be established in River Forest z Luther -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (294,xxx mi) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Lustmobiles
TE wrote: Dude, I can get you a 4.5 for 15k. The guy is out of his mind. Dude, this is very much not a W108 sedan. $129k is the going rate for a good W111 3.5 cab. (Though, for that money, I'd want it to have the cover over the distributor cap.) Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Snook should be all over this one -- another Marquis
It's a great car other than all the stuff that is wrong with it. And great pics too (sorry about the dates) http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/1331836421.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] A snazzy set for wilton
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Re: [MBZ] Oil change cost
I changed mine at 16,000 last time, probably held it too long, got a much quieter engine after the change. I think I'll go back to 12,000... -Curt Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 21:03:09 -0500 From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil change cost To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: 437bc980908191903i7409c682vff6ceb348ba5f...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Depends - how often do you change it? Analysis tells me that I can go over 20,000 on Mobile 1 - but I change it then just on principle. On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 8:57 PM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.comwrote: My 1983 300td has 322 k miles and has never seen a drop of synthetic oil. Save your money and buy dino! -- OK Don Pair of W124 300D 2.5 Turbos -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090819/320d59b1/attachment.html -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090820/2c1c6265/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Kaleb car
Good basis for a genset? Good replacement for the Model A engine in my swamp buggy? Geez, now you're making me wish I had space and time to mess with it. -Curt Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 21:45:10 -0600 From: Craig McCluskey diese...@pisquared.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] Kaleb car To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: 20090819214510.4cb2f7d2.diese...@pisquared.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 21:52:27 -0400 WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: How 'bout a 240D snowmobile/tractor? ;)) Or maybe self-propelled snowblower? Craig -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090820/e7d2d2a9/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Lustmobiles
$129k is the going rate for a good W111 3.5 cab. (Though, for that money, I'd want it to have the cover over the distributor cap.) Around here he'll be sitting on it awhile. I bet when it does sell it's 'away'. Looks a lot like our C114 'roofless wonder'. I didn't pay quite that much, so I can afford to throw a few umbrellas in the trunk! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300CD on Jalopnik
Why does everybody keep talking about battery disposal? Car batteries are worth $5 EACH at my local scrap yard... Last time I replaced the battery in my 190D the kid forgot to charge me for the core and the scrap yard gave me $10 for it... -Curt Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 20:57:45 -0700 From: ernest breakfield erne...@backyardengineering.org Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300CD on Jalopnik To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: 4a8cc9b9.8090...@backyardengineering.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; Format=flowed yes, i do. in this case, the fact that the seller is using a battery that even the battery manufacturer doesn't recommend for that application is just another clue of how that car was (or wasn't) being cared for; combined with all the other clues it all adds up to a car that is likely to be some (other) buyers problem. priced CDs? yes, i've kept an eye on them for years,... the ones worth buying are worth considerably more than this one, but they're also usually turbos, and in considerably better shape. to get an MB battery you'd just have to call the MBZ Roadside Assistance number that's probably still on the sticker that should still be on the inside of your glove box. 45 miles should be a non-issue for them, and you should only have to pay the same cost for the battery as if you'd gone to the dealer, and you'd get a charging system test and battery disposal out of the deal as well. cheers! e -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090820/94414266/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Lost key on a 300SD, 1981
Well, I was thinking the same thing--finding the key. He lost it at a friend's house. I suppose that will be another busy day for him today. Thank you again. --PT Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 21:56:44 -0700 From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost key on a 300SD, 1981 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: dbdf6e04-8d45-11de-bdc4-000502d9a...@windwireless.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed We are assuming that the ignition might have been changed. What would your suggestion be? Thank you. Find that key! -- Jim From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost key on a 300SD, 1981 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: 730c0a6f7eb543dda5559b191a92c...@wiltonpc Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=response Oops! I had a brain short! I forgot for a minute that you MUST have a key for the old tumbler to remove it simply and easily. Without that key, it is, indeed, an ordeal none of us wants to endure, though I nearly had to coupla years ago with my 124 when I couldn't get key to turn to position one (same as no key). 'Finally got it turned with vibrating sander. Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 11:29 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost key on a 300SD, 1981 Go ahead and order tumbler (comes with key); price is very reasonable, changing it is extremely simple and easy, and you'll know that you have a key for the ignition and may have a new one for the doors, too. Wilton - Original Message - From: P. Prud'homme pa...@yahoo.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 10:02 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost key on a 300SD, 1981 Rusty, I could certainly do that. However, to make matters worse I just realized that I forgot a piece of the puzzle. My son just reminded me that he had two keys, one for the door and the one for the ignition. We are assuming that the ignition might have been changed. What would your suggestion be? Thank you. --PT From: Rusty Cullens ru...@buymbparts.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost key on a 300SD, 1981 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: f022af7aa6044dac9f4819fabb79f...@rusty Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original I you supply me with a copy of your drivers license, registration and a one line note giving me permission to get a new key, I can get you one in 2 to 3 days for less than you local dealer will want. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: P. Prud'homme pa...@yahoo.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 3:00 PM Subject: [MBZ] Lost key on a 300SD, 1981 Hello there, My son just started to drive a 1981 300SD. He also just lost the only key. The upper black plastic piece just got undone. It appears that a key is needed to remove the tumbler, unlock the pin, and/or remove the ignition to replace it. Would anyone have a suggestion on how to go about this? Thank you. --PT, 300D '81 -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090820/42b76795/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Oil change cost
My nephew is shop manager and part owner of a foreign car repair shop. He says his cost for a standard oil change is @$45.00. The $18 oil change special at the local quick lube shop sure isn't how they make their money. That transmission fluid is really dirty/burnt. See the color .. you really need to change the transmission fluid and give it a flush. I was on a multi-day trip and had one of those turkeys tell me that, and remind me that I have to do that every 18,000 miles. I asked him to look at the 8,000 miles on the odometer of my fairly new car. He just said Oh.. and backed away from the car. No more offers the one and only time I ever went there. BillR -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of relng...@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 8:06 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil change cost ...This BMW takes 8 quarts of oil, but I can't imagine it being more then $40 for the oil change. Oh well, I think I will avoid the dealer... Anybody charging 40 bucks for an oil change is making no money. For example, local Mobil 1 0W40 retails locally for $6.99 (I just bought 20 quarts on sale for $5.30 which is the lowest price for years) and 15/50 from Walmart for the usual 23 bucks for a five quart jug. And then there is the filter (fleece in my car) which might $7 or more. Or less. Plus labor, disposal fees, shop supplies etc. So my oil-change-by-Topsider just yesterday cost me about $50 and no labor charge. My MB dealer probably gets twice that. RLE -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090819/f5 98cbc8/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Lost key on a 300SD, 1981
Are you that Cajun chef? --R P. Prud'homme wrote: Well, I was thinking the same thing--finding the key. He lost it at a friend's house. I suppose that will be another busy day for him today. Thank you again. --PT Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 21:56:44 -0700 From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost key on a 300SD, 1981 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: dbdf6e04-8d45-11de-bdc4-000502d9a...@windwireless.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed We are assuming that the ignition might have been changed. What would your suggestion be? Thank you. Find that key! -- Jim From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost key on a 300SD, 1981 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: 730c0a6f7eb543dda5559b191a92c...@wiltonpc Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=response Oops! I had a brain short! I forgot for a minute that you MUST have a key for the old tumbler to remove it simply and easily. Without that key, it is, indeed, an ordeal none of us wants to endure, though I nearly had to coupla years ago with my 124 when I couldn't get key to turn to position one (same as no key). 'Finally got it turned with vibrating sander. Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 11:29 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost key on a 300SD, 1981 Go ahead and order tumbler (comes with key); price is very reasonable, changing it is extremely simple and easy, and you'll know that you have a key for the ignition and may have a new one for the doors, too. Wilton - Original Message - From: P. Prud'homme pa...@yahoo.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 10:02 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost key on a 300SD, 1981 Rusty, I could certainly do that. However, to make matters worse I just realized that I forgot a piece of the puzzle. My son just reminded me that he had two keys, one for the door and the one for the ignition. We are assuming that the ignition might have been changed. What would your suggestion be? Thank you. --PT From: Rusty Cullens ru...@buymbparts.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost key on a 300SD, 1981 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: f022af7aa6044dac9f4819fabb79f...@rusty Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original I you supply me with a copy of your drivers license, registration and a one line note giving me permission to get a new key, I can get you one in 2 to 3 days for less than you local dealer will want. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: P. Prud'homme pa...@yahoo.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 3:00 PM Subject: [MBZ] Lost key on a 300SD, 1981 Hello there, My son just started to drive a 1981 300SD. He also just lost the only key. The upper black plastic piece just got undone. It appears that a key is needed to remove the tumbler, unlock the pin, and/or remove the ignition to replace it. Would anyone have a suggestion on how to go about this? Thank you. --PT, 300D '81 -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090820/42b76795/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090820/c5b68752/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: No secrets in a computer
It would seem like some of the antivirus or firewall programs would stop or disable flash cookies? Gerry * Sites pulling sneaky Flash cookie-snoop Academics fret over privacy threat Many websites are using Flash-based cookies to track users, but often omit to mention this in their privacy policies. US academics have documented the little-known tracking technology and its use in practice in a paper called Flash Cookies and Privacy. Browser-based cookies constitute a well understood and widely deployed technology that poses serious questions about privacy, depending on its usage. What's far less well known is that Adobe Flash software also features cookies that can be used in much the same way as HTTP cookies. Flash cookies can be used for storing the volume level of a Flash video but the technology can also be used as secondary, redundant unique identifiers that enable advertisers to circumvent user preferences and self-help, the academics warn. A significant percentage of websites including federal government sites use this Flash-based technology to track users, the researchers discovered.snip http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/08/19/flash_cookies/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Lost key on a 300SD, 1981
P. Prud'homme wrote: Well, I was thinking the same thing--finding the key. He lost it at a friend's house. If it's genuine (and the fact that the useless plastic head fell off leads me to believe it is), the missing stub will stick to a magnet. Might be worth paying $20 for one of those Harbor Freight magnetic brooms. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Lost key on a 300SD, 1981
Mitch Haley wrote: Might be worth paying $20 for one of those Harbor Freight magnetic brooms. So they're a little more than $20. Still way cheaper than a $500 labor bill. http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=93245 http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=98399 http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=36903 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Lost key on a 300SD, 1981
Yes. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 6:10 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost key on a 300SD, 1981 You can get a new key from the nearest dealer with your VIN and proof of ownership. Rusty can you still get these? Allan On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 12:00 -0700, P. Prud'homme pa...@yahoo.com wrote: Hello there, My son just started to drive a 1981 300SD. He also just lost the only key. The upper black plastic piece just got undone. It appears that a key is needed to remove the tumbler, unlock the pin, and/or remove the ignition to replace it. Would anyone have a suggestion on how to go about this? Thank you. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Lost key on a 300SD, 1981
Well, I was thinking the same thing--finding the key. He lost it at a friend's house. I suppose that will be another busy day for him today. Thank you again. Once found, then consider re-keying the ignition back to original by buying a factory tumbler with key, and perhaps an additional code-cut key. (That would make three, right?) It's easy to do --- if you have a working key already. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] a/c in old MB's was Re: 300CD on Jalopnik
Wilton wrote: BTW, AC in all of my old MB's has worked fine, 'course, I installed rebuilt compressor in my then-19-year '81 300D and a new evaporator in my nearly 22-year-old '87 300D in Jun '08. My 1982 Mercedes 300D (with over 300,000 miles when I bought it and over 450,000 miles) when I sold it had working a/c. In fact, my 1971 250/8 had working a/c. My 84 300D had working a/c as did my second 84 300D as well as my 1990 300D 2.5, my 1990 300SEL. I know the 71 had some generic battery in it. The 126 300SEL had a Mercedes battery in it and I think the 90 300D had an interstate battery in it. I have never had do any a/c repairs in any of my cars except one of the 84 300D's had been converted before I got and it actually was OVERFILLED with 134a. I put it on the machine, evacuated it all and then refilled it with what I thought was the proper amount and it cooled perfectly for the rest of the time I had it (many many thousands of miles). The previous owner had done the extensive conversion - i.e., he replaced the compressor, drier, a couple of lines, receiver and changed the o rings. So, it was a good conversion. I would not buy a MB with non-working a/c unless the rest of the car was perfect and I got an amazing deal on it and could justify spending a lot of money on the a/c if necessary. Donald H. Snook -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090820/0a1b44aa/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Just had my first bad experience with BMW
Wilton wrote: When she saw my very good-looking, ivory '80 Mercedes, she jumped up and came running toward me squealing, I didn't know you were driving a Mercedes! I laughed and said to her, We people are sort of funny aren't we? I drove up in a $2500, 20-year-old, 84-horsepower, Diesel-driven Mercedes and you got all excited. My 71 250 was the only car I have had that people would stop me at the gas stations or the mall or grocery store and ask me about the car. It always attracted a lot of attention. It wasn't a fancy car, but it was beautiful and it had that classis MB look. It was a BEAUTIFUL red color with the white interior. The car was by far the most cosmetically perfect car I have ever had. I also managed a huge full service car wash and so it was washed every single day and was detailed either weekly or every other week depending on the weather. It was also my first MB. I loved that car - still do. Donald H. Snook -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090820/bca3b41c/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Just had my first bad experience with BMW
Wonko wrote: Welcome to reality. Just wait until something breaks. Maybe you can give someone your BMW and $1000 for an old 600-series Benz, and trade up in the headache zone. Maybe I am being naïve, but I think I am going to be okay. My indy has been working on this car for 10 years and he should me the service records. It has been extremely well maintained. The car was owned by a local doctor and he would just bring it in and get whatever done it needed. In a weird coincidence that proves that we live in a small world, I actually defended this same doctor in a lawsuit a few years ago. Assuming the secret to avoiding costly repairs on Mercedes and BMW is to properly maintain them and perform scheduled maintenance and preventive maintenance, then this car should be as reliable as any other complicated luxury with good maintenance records. Donald H. Snook -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090820/4b902957/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] a/c in old MB's was Re: 300CD on Jalopnik
I would not buy a MB with non-working a/c unless the rest of the car was perfect and I got an amazing deal on it and could justify spending a lot of money on the a/c if necessary. The other end of the spectrum is also OK, where the rest of the car is acceptable _and_ it was an amazing deal, _and_ you spend nearly nothing by using the U-Pull...if you don't mind a little bit of work. I've done that a time or two. I've also refurbished the seized Nippondenso compressor from the 190D: $00. So far that still works fine, though we're not driving that car right now. Of the fleet, the only car that didn't end up with working AC after I was done with it was the Albatross, and that because the DPO had _removed_ parts. (That car was sold before I ran into sufficient U-Pull resources to try restoring it, and to a location where AC isn't as necessary as here. Not to mention that 240D automatics don't have excess HP for driving AC compressors anyway.) I'm not counting cars that didn't have AC to begin with, of course. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Lost key on a 300SD, 1981
Buy a new tumbler too. It comes with a key. Then you would have 2 keys that operated the ignition, glove box, trunk doors. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: P. Prud'homme pa...@yahoo.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 10:02 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost key on a 300SD, 1981 Rusty, I could certainly do that. However, to make matters worse I just realized that I forgot a piece of the puzzle. My son just reminded me that he had two keys, one for the door and the one for the ignition. We are assuming that the ignition might have been changed. What would your suggestion be? Thank you. --PT From: Rusty Cullens ru...@buymbparts.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost key on a 300SD, 1981 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: f022af7aa6044dac9f4819fabb79f...@rusty Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original I you supply me with a copy of your drivers license, registration and a one line note giving me permission to get a new key, I can get you one in 2 to 3 days for less than you local dealer will want. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: P. Prud'homme pa...@yahoo.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 3:00 PM Subject: [MBZ] Lost key on a 300SD, 1981 Hello there, My son just started to drive a 1981 300SD. He also just lost the only key. The upper black plastic piece just got undone. It appears that a key is needed to remove the tumbler, unlock the pin, and/or remove the ignition to replace it. Would anyone have a suggestion on how to go about this? Thank you. --PT, 300D '81 -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090819/d7c107db/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Car drama
Ok Don wrote: Exactly - which is why we all get-along so well. I like to think that great minds think alike and sometimes genius is recognized only by other genius. :) Donald H. Snook -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090820/911ae53e/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Just had my first bad experience with BMW
Assuming the secret to avoiding costly repairs on Mercedes and BMW is to properly maintain them and perform scheduled maintenance and preventive maintenance, then this car should be as reliable as any other complicated luxury with good maintenance records. That helps immensely. The other big secret is to avoid lemon designs, and by buying a well-maintained older example that kind of critical information should be available by then. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Lost key on a 300SD, 1981
Does the key you have operate both door locks and the trunk? If so, it is likely an original key; it is highly UNlikely that all three of those locks have been changed. If that key does not operate the ignition switch, the switch may have been changed to something different from original, OR something maybe ever so slight is wrong with the key or the switch that keeps the key from turning it. Coupla years ago, the key would not turn the ignition switch in my '87 300D. After several days of frustrated key jiggling and making no progress in turning the switch, I attached the key to the vibration plate of a vibrating sander, stuck the key in the switch, turned the sander on, and in about 10 seconds turned the switch to position one, slipped the tumbler cylinder out and slipped a new one in less than a minute. Dealer was going to charge me $700 to $800 to cut/grind the old cylinder out and replace it, but the vibrator made it possible to turn the key to position one and slip it out in a few seconds. Wilton - Original Message - From: P. Prud'homme pa...@yahoo.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 9:01 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost key on a 300SD, 1981 Well, I was thinking the same thing--finding the key. He lost it at a friend's house. I suppose that will be another busy day for him today. Thank you again. --PT Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 21:56:44 -0700 From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost key on a 300SD, 1981 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: dbdf6e04-8d45-11de-bdc4-000502d9a...@windwireless.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed We are assuming that the ignition might have been changed. What would your suggestion be? Thank you. Find that key! -- Jim From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost key on a 300SD, 1981 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: 730c0a6f7eb543dda5559b191a92c...@wiltonpc Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=response Oops! I had a brain short! I forgot for a minute that you MUST have a key for the old tumbler to remove it simply and easily. Without that key, it is, indeed, an ordeal none of us wants to endure, though I nearly had to coupla years ago with my 124 when I couldn't get key to turn to position one (same as no key). 'Finally got it turned with vibrating sander. Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 11:29 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost key on a 300SD, 1981 Go ahead and order tumbler (comes with key); price is very reasonable, changing it is extremely simple and easy, and you'll know that you have a key for the ignition and may have a new one for the doors, too. Wilton - Original Message - From: P. Prud'homme pa...@yahoo.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 10:02 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost key on a 300SD, 1981 Rusty, I could certainly do that. However, to make matters worse I just realized that I forgot a piece of the puzzle. My son just reminded me that he had two keys, one for the door and the one for the ignition. We are assuming that the ignition might have been changed. What would your suggestion be? Thank you. --PT From: Rusty Cullens ru...@buymbparts.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost key on a 300SD, 1981 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: f022af7aa6044dac9f4819fabb79f...@rusty Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original I you supply me with a copy of your drivers license, registration and a one line note giving me permission to get a new key, I can get you one in 2 to 3 days for less than you local dealer will want. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: P. Prud'homme pa...@yahoo.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 3:00 PM Subject: [MBZ] Lost key on a 300SD, 1981 Hello there, My son just started to drive a 1981 300SD. He also just lost the only key. The upper black plastic piece just got undone. It appears that a key is needed to remove the tumbler, unlock the pin, and/or remove the ignition to replace it. Would anyone have a suggestion on how to go about this? Thank you. --PT, 300D '81 -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090820/42b76795/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go
Re: [MBZ] anybody want a cheap E300?
Yep. Wilton - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 12:56 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] anybody want a cheap E300? Clean FL title? Isn't that an oxymoron? ;)) Washed as clean as the rest of the glovebox --- by the surf. :-) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Just had my first bad experience with BMW
Boiling point? Especially since the flag lady was flirting with you? ; Wilton - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 12:58 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Just had my first bad experience with BMW So, now you may change your mind about selling it. ;) Oh no. The wife is at boiling point, and I have a _nicer_ SL in storage anyway. But this one's starting to shape up nicely, except for the #7 plug oil-fouling. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Tires - was: What do retired people do all day?
Rich found some 22-inch wheels for you. :)) Wilton - Original Message - From: Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 12:20 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Tires - was: What do retired people do all day? tyler wrote: I don't know how much weight you put in your wagon, but I have a Volvo wagon that I also use as a mini suburban.\ I have some very expensive many ply Michelin tires that I believe are designed for small pickups and they work great. I'm not finding any for 14 inch rims... You could also look into the type of light truck tires used on a VW vanagon/bus which have reinforced sidewalls and are rated for as much as 2200lbs. Those are 15 inch, aren't they? Trailer tires are also a possibility. Hmm. I'm not sure I like that idea. All of those tires will drastically hurt the ride quality and handling of your car. Yeah, that's what I'm afraid of. Just curious, how much load do you carry with your 300TD? I have not weighed it. But I ran out of room. It wasn't all heavy gear, but there were 4-5 toolboxes, 5 or so gallons of water, food etc for a 2 week family outing. With no spring sag, it's hard to tell the weight load. Tires look like they could use a bit more air - but had about 45 PSI. I've always wanted to replace my Volvo wagon with a 300TD, but I'm not sure if the rear suspension or transmission could take the place of those on my Volvo, which can do this: http://illumina.ucr.edu/misc/740c22.jpg http://illumina.ucr.edu/misc/740_move1.jpg Hah! Not with the two bolts to the underside of the bumper hitch I got with the car! I want to try towing that sailboat to Big Bear Lake which is at over 7,000 feet elevation up a windy mountain road, and the boat weighs about 3,300lbs- but has it's own brakes. Could a 300TD handle that? I haven't pulled anything with mine - partly because of the wimpy hitch, but also because I have a pickup and a suburban for pulling the big trailer. But with the turbo, I'd guess the elevation wouldn't be much problem. I drove a 300D turbo to the top of Pikes Peak. It would hardly move till the turbo spooled up - then it acted much as it did along the Mississippi river. I have no idea about the transmission. If I were to pull much of any trailer, I'd find some way to rig a weight distributing hitch on it. Now that I've used one, I hope I never have to go back to pulling without one - unless I am using a fifth-wheel. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Seats for 1980 300D ( Black)
I am tired of the seat cover on my car and want to replace the leather. Though I don't want to spend $500 - $800 on it! Do any of you know what models of maybe later years have the same pattern I actually just really need the bottom cover in black. I think if I can get even a passenger seat bottom I believe it will work. Thanks all Douglas -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090820/b4b9b5c7/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A snazzy set for wilton
Damn, damn, damn, what a waste! ;))) Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 8:26 AM Subject: [MBZ] A snazzy set for wilton http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/1330994116.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: No secrets in a computer
Probably not. Though perhaps we'll see this added. One way to stop them is to disable Flash. I always browse with Flash disabled, and enable it only when I want to view Flash content on a particular site. Websites implemented entirely in Flash? Too bad, so sad, I won't visit. If Flash is disabled, I'd bet the cookies are too (though that's conjecture on my part). Allan On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 19:54 -0400, archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: It would seem like some of the antivirus or firewall programs would stop or disable flash cookies? Gerry * Sites pulling sneaky Flash cookie-snoop Academics fret over privacy threat Many websites are using Flash-based cookies to track users, but often omit to mention this in their privacy policies. US academics have documented the little-known tracking technology and its use in practice in a paper called Flash Cookies and Privacy. Browser-based cookies constitute a well understood and widely deployed technology that poses serious questions about privacy, depending on its usage. What's far less well known is that Adobe Flash software also features cookies that can be used in much the same way as HTTP cookies. Flash cookies can be used for storing the volume level of a Flash video but the technology can also be used as secondary, redundant unique identifiers that enable advertisers to circumvent user preferences and self-help, the academics warn. A significant percentage of websites including federal government sites use this Flash-based technology to track users, the researchers discovered.snip http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/08/19/flash_cookies/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Transmission fluid Question
According to BMW, the transmission fluid in my car is Lifetime Fluid never needs changing. Well, I think that is horse hockey. When they say lifetime, I don't think they are considering a 12 year old car with 160,000 miles. Here is my difficulty: My indy (who is a MB expert) trusts the local BMW indy who says if the tranny is working fine, then don't do anything to it. But, I joined the BMW forum and half the folks on there say, change that fluid before you have a problem! and others believe in the lifetime fluid idea. I DO NOT have any problems with the transmission. Its working fine. But, in the records I have seen, there has not been a transmission in at least 80,000 and possibly never. There is no dipstick to check the condition of the fluid. The transmission does a filter and a drain plug. It also uses some super duper expensive synthetic fluid. So, the question is: who's right? Do I change the fluid and risk the transmission failing because all the crap in the tranny is what is holding it together? Or, do I just keep driving it and keep my fingers crossed. If I did do some sort of service, I think there are two options. 1. Buy the 15 qts of fluid and do a transmission flush using one of the machines that hooks into the cooler lines - advantage of this is that it cycles ALL of the old fluid out and replaces it all with new fluid. Or 2. Drop the trans pan, replace the filter, and top it off with the 5-6 qts of fluid that will come out when I drop the pan. If I do anything, I am going to go ahead and spring for the BMW fluid, BMW filter and evidently the pan has four magnets (to collect the metal shavings) in it that should be cleaned and replaced. Any ideas?(I wish I knew the BMW version of Marshall Booth!) Donald H. Snook -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090820/4d3b69ed/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Found the lost key on a 300SD, 1981
Thank you all for your input. --PT Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 10:00:26 -0400 From: Rusty Cullens ru...@buymbparts.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost key on a 300SD, 1981 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: 2f68d9ed8fb44bda9b9eec0ad73eb...@rusty Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Buy a new tumbler too. It comes with a key. Then you would have 2 keys that operated the ignition, glove box, trunk doors. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: P. Prud'homme pa...@yahoo.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 10:02 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost key on a 300SD, 1981 Rusty, I could certainly do that. However, to make matters worse I just realized that I forgot a piece of the puzzle. My son just reminded me that he had two keys, one for the door and the one for the ignition. We are assuming that the ignition might have been changed. What would your suggestion be? Thank you. --PT From: Rusty Cullens ru...@buymbparts.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost key on a 300SD, 1981 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: f022af7aa6044dac9f4819fabb79f...@rusty Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original I you supply me with a copy of your drivers license, registration and a one line note giving me permission to get a new key, I can get you one in 2 to 3 days for less than you local dealer will want. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: P. Prud'homme pa...@yahoo.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 3:00 PM Subject: [MBZ] Lost key on a 300SD, 1981 Hello there, My son just started to drive a 1981 300SD. He also just lost the only key. The upper black plastic piece just got undone. It appears that a key is needed to remove the tumbler, unlock the pin, and/or remove the ignition to replace it. Would anyone have a suggestion on how to go about this? Thank you. --PT, 300D '81 -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090820/08b115f9/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Seats for 1980 300D ( Black)
I have just the seat bottom in leather for $300.00 Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: Douglas jgi...@comcast.net To: Mercedes mailing list mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 10:19 AM Subject: [MBZ] Seats for 1980 300D ( Black) I am tired of the seat cover on my car and want to replace the leather. Though I don't want to spend $500 - $800 on it! Do any of you know what models of maybe later years have the same pattern I actually just really need the bottom cover in black. I think if I can get even a passenger seat bottom I believe it will work. Thanks all Douglas -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090820/b4b9b5c7/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300CD on Jalopnik
because it's not that way everywhere...? not only that, but going out of my way to go to the scrap yard isn't worth carrying a caustic battery in any vehicle i value, let alone worth the time/money it would cost me to go to a scrap yard... especially if i don't have to! ;-) cheers! e Curt Raymond wrote: Why does everybody keep talking about battery disposal? Car batteries are worth $5 EACH at my local scrap yard... Last time I replaced the battery in my 190D the kid forgot to charge me for the core and the scrap yard gave me $10 for it... -Curt Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 20:57:45 -0700 From: ernest breakfield erne...@backyardengineering.org Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300CD on Jalopnik To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: 4a8cc9b9.8090...@backyardengineering.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; Format=flowed yes, i do. in this case, the fact that the seller is using a battery that even the battery manufacturer doesn't recommend for that application is just another clue of how that car was (or wasn't) being cared for; combined with all the other clues it all adds up to a car that is likely to be some (other) buyers problem. priced CDs? yes, i've kept an eye on them for years,... the ones worth buying are worth considerably more than this one, but they're also usually turbos, and in considerably better shape. to get an MB battery you'd just have to call the MBZ Roadside Assistance number that's probably still on the sticker that should still be on the inside of your glove box. 45 miles should be a non-issue for them, and you should only have to pay the same cost for the battery as if you'd gone to the dealer, and you'd get a charging system test and battery disposal out of the deal as well. cheers! e -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090820/94414266/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090820/12f0297b/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Transmission fluid Question
When they say lifetime, I don't think they are considering a 12 year old No. They mean the life of the warrantee. Me, a cynic? -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Seats for 1980 300D (Black)
I am tired of the seat cover on my car and want to replace the leather. A 1980 123 is unlikely to be leather. Any 123 seat bottom should be the same, though there were slight style variations over the years. The usual cheap fix is to find a good passenger seat bottom, and swap it in. The brand new GAHH seat upholstery I got from Rusty for Ethelred looks great, FYI. MB-Tex, not the original leather. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Just had my first bad experience with BMW
Boiling point? She's still really pissed about the SEL/SDL subterfuge. She's got a fever, and it ain't more cowbell that's gonna do it, but less cars. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Just had my first bad experience with BMW
Wilton wrote: That's why I've always (well, 'bout 62 years, anyway) changed oil myself; for last 7 or 8 years using my $2, homemade sucker. I might have to do that from now on. I did use my topsider on my 1990 300SEL -- once. It wasn;t really worth it on that car, because once I bought 8 qts of oil and the filter, it cost nearly as much as the oil change did. Now that my oil changes are going to cost $65-70, it is probably worth it to do the oil change myself. Donald H. Snook -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090820/8d6ce9f4/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Just had my first bad experience with BMW
Okay - I remember that. I thought he had already smoothed that over with flowers and a diamond pendent (worked for me with a certain vehicular purchase.) A Euro model VW camper i have my eye on may cost me earrings and a new ring. On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 11:09 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Peter Hertzing wrote: okay - I missed something whats up. Why is she at teh edge? 1. They have a white SDL. Jim bought a white SEL and didn't bother to tell her immediately. Waited until she was sitting in it one day and called it the 'SDL', and then he said 'no, not really'. 2. He bought a POS SL for a quick fix-n-flip, and many dollars later, he still has it. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090820/f2874deb/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Just had my first bad experience with BMW
Peter Hertzing wrote: okay - I missed something whats up. Why is she at teh edge? 1. They have a white SDL. Jim bought a white SEL and didn't bother to tell her immediately. Waited until she was sitting in it one day and called it the 'SDL', and then he said 'no, not really'. 2. He bought a POS SL for a quick fix-n-flip, and many dollars later, he still has it. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diesel trucks
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 2:03 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Ed Booher wrote: Also, according to their website, the currently produced vehicles with their engines are the Chrysler Voyager, Jeep Liberty, Jeep Cherokee, Jeep Wrangler, the LTI Taxi, Chevrolet Captiva, LDV Maxus (Benz Sprinter style of van), and the BMC Megastar van. All, I'm sure, European if not primarily U.K. based vehicles. What's a Captiva? Is that a new model of police lorry for hauling prisoners? Mitch. As awesome, and funny, as that would be, no it looks like a small sedan, probably a European styled version of a cavalier or something. EdB -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090820/a5539b3f/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Lost key on a 300SD, 1981
Is it a female friend? Has he looked in her washing machine yet? BTDT -Curt Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 06:01:08 -0700 (PDT) From: P. Prud'homme pa...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost key on a 300SD, 1981 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: 600166.35844...@web54302.mail.re2.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Well, I was thinking the same thing--finding the key. He lost it at a friend's house. I suppose that will be another busy day for him today. Thank you again. --PT -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090820/696d5087/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Windows
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 11:03 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: The beauty of single-pane windows is that they can last forever, unless you break them. Sealed double- and triple-pane windows do not. This is slightly inaccurate. Multi-pane windows that use a desiccant within a metal spacer will always fail. Period. The desiccant reaches an over-saturation point, and pow, instant milky windows. However, for well over a decade, there have been multi-pane windows that use a rubber and foam spacer without a need for a desiccant. I have yet to hear of a single failure in a window of this type. In fact, it's the technology used by NASA in spacebound systems. And yes, the foam spaced windows are as much as four times more expensive than the conventional metal spaced, desiccant sealed windows. Most of the 1976-vintage double windows in our house have failed already, we try not to notice all the streaks and crud inside. I found that Pella alone made NON-sealed double-pane windows. You can remove the panel and clean inside. Marginally less energy-efficient than the sealeds, at least for the N years that a seal holds, but liable to last the life of the house with care. Unlike every stinkin' sealed window I've ever run into. That's what's in our new addition. Wasn't strictly to code for new construction, but we got away with it. -- Jim EdB -- I'm a Night Elf Mohawk! - Mr. T. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090820/cf1425a9/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diesel trucks
Ed Booher wrote: On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 2:03 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: What's a Captiva? Is that a new model of police lorry for hauling prisoners? Mitch. As awesome, and funny, as that would be, no it looks like a small sedan, probably a European styled version of a cavalier or something. I just checked. Looks like a Saturn Vue to me. http://www.chevrolet.co.uk/cars/captiva/features-and-specs.html http://www.saturn.com/vehicles/2009/vue/features.do ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300CD on Jalopnik
Who doesn't want to live around the corner from a scrap yard? ;) Don't your battery retailers have a core charge when you get a new battery? Core charge is a ploy to get you to bring the old one back for proper disposal... -Curt Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 08:12:46 -0700 From: ernest breakfield erne...@backyardengineering.org Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300CD on Jalopnik To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: 4a8d67ee.20...@backyardengineering.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; Format=flowed because it's not that way everywhere...? not only that, but going out of my way to go to the scrap yard isn't worth carrying a caustic battery in any vehicle i value, let alone worth the time/money it would cost me to go to a scrap yard... especially if i don't have to! ;-) cheers! e Curt Raymond wrote: Why does everybody keep talking about battery disposal? Car batteries are worth $5 EACH at my local scrap yard... Last time I replaced the battery in my 190D the kid forgot to charge me for the core and the scrap yard gave me $10 for it... -Curt -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090820/edbdcf0f/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Transmission fluid Question
BMW claims that they figured that one of the biggest causes of transmission fluid was through the dipstick; mostly from people *checking* it! not sure i buy that story, but think it more likely that they figure they can get it through warranty now without the need for a fluid change if they eliminated potential for contamination through the dipstick. there's a couple of schools of thought in the fluid flush, but let's keep in mind the rate you turn over cars; if you don't have a problem with it now, is it likely that you'd be preventing any problem you might have by changing the fluid before you've traded it out for something else? cheers! e Donald Snook wrote: According to BMW, the transmission fluid in my car is Lifetime Fluid never needs changing. Well, I think that is horse hockey. When they say lifetime, I don't think they are considering a 12 year old car with 160,000 miles. Here is my difficulty: My indy (who is a MB expert) trusts the local BMW indy who says if the tranny is working fine, then don't do anything to it. But, I joined the BMW forum and half the folks on there say, change that fluid before you have a problem! and others believe in the lifetime fluid idea. I DO NOT have any problems with the transmission. Its working fine. But, in the records I have seen, there has not been a transmission in at least 80,000 and possibly never. There is no dipstick to check the condition of the fluid. The transmission does a filter and a drain plug. It also uses some super duper expensive synthetic fluid. So, the question is: who's right? Do I change the fluid and risk the transmission failing because all the crap in the tranny is what is holding it together? Or, do I just keep driving it and keep my fingers crossed. If I did do some sort of service, I think there are two options. 1. Buy the 15 qts of fluid and do a transmission flush using one of the machines that hooks into the cooler lines - advantage of this is that it cycles ALL of the old fluid out and replaces it all with new fluid. Or 2. Drop the trans pan, replace the filter, and top it off with the 5-6 qts of fluid that will come out when I drop the pan. If I do anything, I am going to go ahead and spring for the BMW fluid, BMW filter and evidently the pan has four magnets (to collect the metal shavings) in it that should be cleaned and replaced. Any ideas?(I wish I knew the BMW version of Marshall Booth!) Donald H. Snook -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090820/4d3b69ed/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090820/fbf04990/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Just had my first bad experience with BMW
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 09:05:06AM -0700, Jim Cathey wrote: Boiling point? She's still really pissed about the SEL/SDL subterfuge. She's got a fever, and it ain't more cowbell that's gonna do it, but less cars. And hiding them in the woods where she can't see them probably won't work this time either. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Just had my first bad experience with BMW
okay - I missed something whats up. Why is she at teh edge? Peter On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 11:05 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: Boiling point? She's still really pissed about the SEL/SDL subterfuge. She's got a fever, and it ain't more cowbell that's gonna do it, but less cars. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090820/9acca824/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Just had my first bad experience with BMW
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 12:06:47PM -0400, Mitch Haley wrote: Jim Cathey wrote: Boiling point? She's still really pissed about the SEL/SDL subterfuge. She's got a fever, and it ain't more cowbell that's gonna do it, but less cars. Coming to a theater near you: Car Trek II - The Wrath of Jill heehee. LOL. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Just had my first bad experience with BMW
Jim Cathey wrote: Boiling point? She's still really pissed about the SEL/SDL subterfuge. She's got a fever, and it ain't more cowbell that's gonna do it, but less cars. Coming to a theater near you: Car Trek II - The Wrath of Jill heehee. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] spousal subterfuge was Re: Just had my first bad experience with BMW
Mitch wrote: 1. They have a white SDL. Jim bought a white SEL and didn't bother to tell her immediately. Waited until she was sitting in it one day and called it the 'SDL', and then he said 'no, not really'. 2. He bought a POS SL for a quick fix-n-flip, and many dollars later, he still has it. I must have missed this. So, Jim bought another white 126 in gas form? And the Mrs. didn't notice the presence of another car? I assume that means the interiors are also identical? And she was driving the gasser and didn't notice that it drove differently? Jim, how did you pull this off? How long did it take? What was her reaction? Jim, you are either my hero or the greatest criminal mind since Lex Luther (or both). This might become one of my all time favorite stories. Donald H. Snook -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090820/d6adaa0b/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] batteries (was: Re: 300CD on Jalopnik)
hi Curt! Curt Raymond wrote: Who doesn't want to live around the corner from a scrap yard? ;) hand in air uh, me? ;-) Don't your battery retailers have a core charge when you get a new battery? Core charge is a ploy to get you to bring the old one back for proper disposal... i haven't bought many in the last few years, but not for the last couple of batteries i've bought; one for my BMW moto (bought at dealer at discount), and the other an Optima for my J**p at a Costco. (we've already discussed the MBZ batt.) cheers! e [snippage] -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090820/8cfb0723/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Just had my first bad experience with BMW
And, now, other women are beginning flirt with 'im when he's driving the SL. ;))) Wilton - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 12:09 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Just had my first bad experience with BMW Peter Hertzing wrote: okay - I missed something whats up. Why is she at teh edge? 1. They have a white SDL. Jim bought a white SEL and didn't bother to tell her immediately. Waited until she was sitting in it one day and called it the 'SDL', and then he said 'no, not really'. 2. He bought a POS SL for a quick fix-n-flip, and many dollars later, he still has it. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Lost key on a 300SD, 1981
Or under couch/seat cushions? If it's a woman, in all hand bags and coat/jacket and slacks pockets? Wilton - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 12:23 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost key on a 300SD, 1981 Is it a female friend? Has he looked in her washing machine yet? BTDT -Curt Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 06:01:08 -0700 (PDT) From: P. Prud'homme pa...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost key on a 300SD, 1981 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: 600166.35844...@web54302.mail.re2.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Well, I was thinking the same thing--finding the key. He lost it at a friend's house. I suppose that will be another busy day for him today. Thank you again. --PT -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090820/696d5087/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] spousal subterfuge was Re: Just had my first bad experience with BMW
The identical-looking SDL was in the garage, evidently seldom-visited by SWMBO. Identical SEL sitting outside in clear view while he was trying frantically to bring it up to acceptable standards (condition) before she discovered the ruse. ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com To: Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 12:40 PM Subject: [MBZ] spousal subterfuge was Re: Just had my first bad experience with BMW Mitch wrote: 1. They have a white SDL. Jim bought a white SEL and didn't bother to tell her immediately. Waited until she was sitting in it one day and called it the 'SDL', and then he said 'no, not really'. 2. He bought a POS SL for a quick fix-n-flip, and many dollars later, he still has it. I must have missed this. So, Jim bought another white 126 in gas form? And the Mrs. didn't notice the presence of another car? I assume that means the interiors are also identical? And she was driving the gasser and didn't notice that it drove differently? Jim, how did you pull this off? How long did it take? What was her reaction? Jim, you are either my hero or the greatest criminal mind since Lex Luther (or both). This might become one of my all time favorite stories. Donald H. Snook -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090820/d6adaa0b/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Lost key on a 300SD, 1981
The most likely event is that the driver put the plastic key head in his pocket and not the steel insert. I'd start the search in and near the car. Heck, I'd start the search inside the ignition lock. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] batteries (was: Re: 300CD on Jalopnik)
'Just wish I could walk through one like I used to. 'A little tougher to get past mud holes on my scooter or pushing my walker. Also, people see me on the scooter or pushing the walker and think I'm blind, deaf, dumb, stupid, ignorant and helpless. Often, when I'm approaching a door on the scooter, people step out in front of to try to help me with door; I have to stop abruptly to keep from hitting them or running over their toes; then I've lost my momentum and it's hard to start again, especially it there's a slight incline at the door or to cross the threshold, etc. Actually I can handle the doors very well myself, thank you. I try to thank them for helping and try to be tactful; SWMBO, though, says I'm not very tactful. Wilton - Original Message - From: ernest breakfield erne...@backyardengineering.org To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 12:53 PM Subject: [MBZ] batteries (was: Re: 300CD on Jalopnik) hi Curt! Curt Raymond wrote: Who doesn't want to live around the corner from a scrap yard? ;) hand in air uh, me? ;-) Don't your battery retailers have a core charge when you get a new battery? Core charge is a ploy to get you to bring the old one back for proper disposal... i haven't bought many in the last few years, but not for the last couple of batteries i've bought; one for my BMW moto (bought at dealer at discount), and the other an Optima for my J**p at a Costco. (we've already discussed the MBZ batt.) cheers! e [snippage] -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090820/8cfb0723/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Lost key on a 300SD, 1981
Or on the car floor or beside/under the seat. Where was the key last? Where did he/she take coins, etc., out the key pocket? Wilton - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 1:18 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost key on a 300SD, 1981 The most likely event is that the driver put the plastic key head in his pocket and not the steel insert. I'd start the search in and near the car. Heck, I'd start the search inside the ignition lock. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] batteries (was: Re: 300CD on Jalopnik)
FWIW when I buy batteries at the Interstate dealer (which they install for free) they do not charge for disposal. Heck, they make money by selling them to recyclers like Exide. The recyclers grind them up, separate the lead and make new batteries. You can also bring any old batteries in and they will take them for you at no charge. The county also has a couple of places where you can do this, also dump your old motor oil along with other household recyclables (cans, plastic bottles, etc). Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: Flash cookies
Here's a bit more about flash cookies http://epic.org/privacy/cookies/flash.html Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Lost key on a 300SD, 1981
PT said he found the keys about two hours ago and thanks everyone for their help. Thanks Harry - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 12:29 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost key on a 300SD, 1981 Or on the car floor or beside/under the seat. Where was the key last? Where did he/she take coins, etc., out the key pocket? Wilton - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 1:18 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost key on a 300SD, 1981 The most likely event is that the driver put the plastic key head in his pocket and not the steel insert. I'd start the search in and near the car. Heck, I'd start the search inside the ignition lock. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Lost key on a 300SD, 1981
Where did he find them? (In case I ever lose mine.) Mike On Aug 20, 2009, at 1:53 PM, harry watkins wrote: PT said he found the keys about two hours ago and thanks everyone for their help. Thanks Harry - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 12:29 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost key on a 300SD, 1981 Or on the car floor or beside/under the seat. Where was the key last? Where did he/she take coins, etc., out the key pocket? Wilton - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 1:18 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost key on a 300SD, 1981 The most likely event is that the driver put the plastic key head in his pocket and not the steel insert. I'd start the search in and near the car. Heck, I'd start the search inside the ignition lock. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Lost key on a 300SD, 1981
That's great! I'd certainly hate for him to have to pay a stealer $700 to $800 to grind the switch out to replace it. Wilton - Original Message - From: harry watkins harry...@bellsouth.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 1:53 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost key on a 300SD, 1981 PT said he found the keys about two hours ago and thanks everyone for their help. Thanks Harry - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 12:29 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost key on a 300SD, 1981 Or on the car floor or beside/under the seat. Where was the key last? Where did he/she take coins, etc., out the key pocket? Wilton - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 1:18 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost key on a 300SD, 1981 The most likely event is that the driver put the plastic key head in his pocket and not the steel insert. I'd start the search in and near the car. Heck, I'd start the search inside the ignition lock. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Lost key on a 300SD, 1981
Yeah, so where was it? Don't keep us in suspense. Wilton - Original Message - From: Michael Esh michael...@me.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 2:08 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost key on a 300SD, 1981 Where did he find them? (In case I ever lose mine.) Mike On Aug 20, 2009, at 1:53 PM, harry watkins wrote: PT said he found the keys about two hours ago and thanks everyone for their help. Thanks Harry - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 12:29 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost key on a 300SD, 1981 Or on the car floor or beside/under the seat. Where was the key last? Where did he/she take coins, etc., out the key pocket? Wilton - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 1:18 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost key on a 300SD, 1981 The most likely event is that the driver put the plastic key head in his pocket and not the steel insert. I'd start the search in and near the car. Heck, I'd start the search inside the ignition lock. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Lost key on a 300SD, 1981
He didn't say, he posted about 10:30 my time, said he found them and thanks. Subject was found the keys on a 300SD, 1981. Thank you all for your input. --PT - Original Message - From: Michael Esh michael...@me.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 1:08 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost key on a 300SD, 1981 Where did he find them? (In case I ever lose mine.) Mike On Aug 20, 2009, at 1:53 PM, harry watkins wrote: PT said he found the keys about two hours ago and thanks everyone for their help. Thanks Harry - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 12:29 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost key on a 300SD, 1981 Or on the car floor or beside/under the seat. Where was the key last? Where did he/she take coins, etc., out the key pocket? Wilton - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 1:18 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost key on a 300SD, 1981 The most likely event is that the driver put the plastic key head in his pocket and not the steel insert. I'd start the search in and near the car. Heck, I'd start the search inside the ignition lock. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Lost key on a 300SD, 1981
Then it wasn't lost, just missing. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: harry watkins harry...@bellsouth.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 2:21 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost key on a 300SD, 1981 He didn't say, he posted about 10:30 my time, said he found them and thanks. Subject was found the keys on a 300SD, 1981. Thank you all for your input. --PT - Original Message - From: Michael Esh michael...@me.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 1:08 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost key on a 300SD, 1981 Where did he find them? (In case I ever lose mine.) Mike On Aug 20, 2009, at 1:53 PM, harry watkins wrote: PT said he found the keys about two hours ago and thanks everyone for their help. Thanks Harry - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 12:29 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost key on a 300SD, 1981 Or on the car floor or beside/under the seat. Where was the key last? Where did he/she take coins, etc., out the key pocket? Wilton - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 1:18 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost key on a 300SD, 1981 The most likely event is that the driver put the plastic key head in his pocket and not the steel insert. I'd start the search in and near the car. Heck, I'd start the search inside the ignition lock. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Lost key on a 300SD, 1981
Last place he looked. --R WILTON wrote: Yeah, so where was it? Don't keep us in suspense. Wilton - Original Message - From: Michael Esh michael...@me.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 2:08 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost key on a 300SD, 1981 Where did he find them? (In case I ever lose mine.) Mike On Aug 20, 2009, at 1:53 PM, harry watkins wrote: PT said he found the keys about two hours ago and thanks everyone for their help. Thanks Harry - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 12:29 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost key on a 300SD, 1981 Or on the car floor or beside/under the seat. Where was the key last? Where did he/she take coins, etc., out the key pocket? Wilton - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 1:18 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost key on a 300SD, 1981 The most likely event is that the driver put the plastic key head in his pocket and not the steel insert. I'd start the search in and near the car. Heck, I'd start the search inside the ignition lock. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Found the lost key on a 300SD, 1981
The metal part of the key was probably in the most logical place, somewhere in the lazy boy where he sat visiting one of his buddy. Thanks again. --PT From: Michael Esh michael...@me.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost key on a 300SD, 1981 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: 3d05e30e-b5db-43c2-8f92-d70029336...@me.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Where did he find them? (In case I ever lose mine.) Mike On Aug 20, 2009, at 1:53 PM, harry watkins wrote: PT said he found the keys about two hours ago and thanks everyone for their help. Thanks Harry Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 14:09:35 -0400 From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost key on a 300SD, 1981 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: f6fdbe70d3604e229828f0d57df36...@wiltonpc Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=response That's great! I'd certainly hate for him to have to pay a stealer $700 to $800 to grind the switch out to replace it. Wilton -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090820/692e8101/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] batteries (was: Re: 300CD on Jalopnik)
Ahh c'mon, I put an emoticon on that... I'd forgotten about motorcycle batteries... All the car batteries I've ever bought had a core charge, even at Wal-Mart... -Curt Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 09:53:54 -0700 From: ernest breakfield erne...@backyardengineering.org Subject: [MBZ] batteries (was: Re: 300CD on Jalopnik) To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: 4a8d7fa2.7020...@backyardengineering.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; Format=flowed hi Curt! Curt Raymond wrote: Who doesn't want to live around the corner from a scrap yard? ;) hand in air uh, me? ;-) Don't your battery retailers have a core charge when you get a new battery? Core charge is a ploy to get you to bring the old one back for proper disposal... i haven't bought many in the last few years, but not for the last couple of batteries i've bought; one for my BMW moto (bought at dealer at discount), and the other an Optima for my J**p at a Costco. (we've already discussed the MBZ batt.) cheers! e -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090820/6a41262f/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Transmission fluid Question
For the 1-3 months (or weeks) you will keep the car, why bother? Drink the lifetime koolaid, smile, and let the next sucker worry about it. At 10:02 AM 8/20/2009, you wrote: According to BMW, the transmission fluid in my car is Lifetime Fluid never needs changing. Well, I think that is horse hockey. When they say lifetime, I don't think they are considering a 12 year old car with 160,000 miles. Here is my difficulty: My indy (who is a MB expert) trusts the local BMW indy who says if the tranny is working fine, then don't do anything to it. But, I joined the BMW forum and half the folks on there say, change that fluid before you have a problem! and others believe in the lifetime fluid idea. I DO NOT have any problems with the transmission. Its working fine. But, in the records I have seen, there has not been a transmission in at least 80,000 and possibly never. There is no dipstick to check the condition of the fluid. The transmission does a filter and a drain plug. It also uses some super duper expensive synthetic fluid. So, the question is: who's right? Do I change the fluid and risk the transmission failing because all the crap in the tranny is what is holding it together? Or, do I just keep driving it and keep my fingers crossed. If I did do some sort of service, I think there are two options. 1. Buy the 15 qts of fluid and do a transmission flush using one of the machines that hooks into the cooler lines - advantage of this is that it cycles ALL of the old fluid out and replaces it all with new fluid. Or 2. Drop the trans pan, replace the filter, and top it off with the 5-6 qts of fluid that will come out when I drop the pan. If I do anything, I am going to go ahead and spring for the BMW fluid, BMW filter and evidently the pan has four magnets (to collect the metal shavings) in it that should be cleaned and replaced. Any ideas?(I wish I knew the BMW version of Marshall Booth!) Donald H. Snook -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090820/4d3b69ed/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Tires - was: What do retired people do all day?
No, most Vanagons and Buses were 14 from the factory. Tyler Fmiser wrote: You could also look into the type of light truck tires used on a VW vanagon/bus which have reinforced sidewalls and are rated for as much as 2200lbs. Those are 15 inch, aren't they? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Tires - was: What do retired people do all day?
It was perfectly safe and stable, and easily drove over 1,000 miles- including the steepest mountain pass in the US freeway system. I added rear spring spacers to level out the car, and adjusted the headlights to the correct level. I have a custom made hitch that is approximately as heavy duty as what you'd see on a 1 ton truck. Also, the trailer contents were readjusted somewhat after that photo to reduce the tongue weight- but the entire volume of the trailer was filled, mostly with books and tools! I did drive it very easy, and stayed under 55mph to be safe. There was no sway or braking problems at all, even coming through the Siskiyou pass. The car was modified with a locking rear differential, and enormous transmission cooler, all synthetic fluids, rear spring spacers, high boiling point brake fluid, ceramic brake pads, an engine temperature monitor, and a transmission temperature gauge among other things. The Volvo 700 series is basically built like a small pickup truck... The key to making it safe is setting the car up properly, and driving very conservatively. If one were to take a stock Volvo wagon, and drive it like it didn't have a trailer (like I see most people with large pickups and trailers doing) they'd certainly lose control of the rig. Tyler Curt Raymond wrote: Can do and can safely do are 2 different things. That second picture of yours is clearly NOT safe. Theres either too much tounge weight on the trailer or too much weight in the back of the car. At night the car's lights will blind oncoming drivers. Also the ass end of the car will wallow and make the front wheels light. Not safe. I can't remember what you've got for a Volvo, I checked trailerhitches.com for an '87 760 wagon which is rated for 3300#. Remember thats the maximum weight with the trailer. '97 850 wagon gets 3500#. A 300D's towing capacity with brakes is something like 3300# so a TD should be the same or slightly more. Safe towing is not just about having brakes although thats real important, its about having enough weight so when the wind or a big hill is trying to move everything all sideways the downpressure on your tires is enough to prevent it... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] A/C
Hi, All. My 190DT has some residual pressure in the A/C system, un-converted R12 I presume. If the system were to be charged with, say, Freeze 12, would it need to be evacuated completely or could the system just take a charge as is? ( I just know I'm gonna regret this). Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A/C
Frederick W Moir wrote: Hi, All. My 190DT has some residual pressure in the A/C system, un-converted R12 I presume. If the system were to be charged with, say, Freeze 12, would it need to be evacuated completely or could the system just take a charge as is? ( I just know I'm gonna regret this). You could put some freeze-12 in with some dye and find out where the refrigerant is leaking. If it's somewhat pressurized I doubt there is much air in there. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Tires - was: What do retired people do all day?
20 some years ago I bought continental 6 ply tires from the no longer extant EuroTire to put on the 66 frod van. I also put air shocks on the rear. I routinely made 600 mile trips to Chicago and hauled back 2000 to 3500 lb of goods. The tires were great. EuroTire told me they were made for VW transporters in Europe, where they were actually used to haul things besides hippies. Quote from the politically incorrect guide to the 60s: outside the Haight-Ashbury area of SF, there were almost no hippies [in the 60s]. At 03:55 PM 8/20/2009, you wrote: No, most Vanagons and Buses were 14 from the factory. Tyler Fmiser wrote: You could also look into the type of light truck tires used on a VW vanagon/bus which have reinforced sidewalls and are rated for as much as 2200lbs. Those are 15 inch, aren't they? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] O.........K............this is........different
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/RETRO-29-BENZ-2001-MODEL_W0QQitemZ260465400436QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_Cars?hash=item3ca4f29a74_trksid=p3286.c0.m14 I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Hendrik ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] O.........K............this is........different
Hendrik Fay wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com.au/RETRO-29-BENZ-2001-MODEL_W0QQitemZ260465400436QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_Cars?hash=item3ca4f29a74_trksid=p3286.c0.m14 I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Big curvy fenders with floorboards on a car with giant square doors stolen from a Range Rover or similar? That's so stupid it's hilarious. Kind of like buying a watch that says Bagelsport on it. (but chances are, if you buy this watch, the one you get will say Rolex instead) http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=270445081708 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: No secrets in a computer
Thanks, Allan. Where do you disable/enable Flash? Gerry - From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu Probably not. Though perhaps we'll see this added. One way to stop them is to disable Flash. I always browse with Flash disabled, and enable it only when I want to view Flash content on a particular site. Websites implemented entirely in Flash? Too bad, so sad, I won't visit. If Flash is disabled, I'd bet the cookies are too (though that's conjecture on my part). Allan On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 19:54 -0400, archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: It would seem like some of the antivirus or firewall programs would stop or disable flash cookies? Gerry * Sites pulling sneaky Flash cookie-snoop Academics fret over privacy threat Many websites are using Flash-based cookies to track users, but often omit to mention this in their privacy policies. US academics have documented the little-known tracking technology and its use in practice in a paper called Flash Cookies and Privacy. Browser-based cookies constitute a well understood and widely deployed technology that poses serious questions about privacy, depending on its usage. What's far less well known is that Adobe Flash software also features cookies that can be used in much the same way as HTTP cookies. Flash cookies can be used for storing the volume level of a Flash video but the technology can also be used as secondary, redundant unique identifiers that enable advertisers to circumvent user preferences and self-help, the academics warn. A significant percentage of websites including federal government sites use this Flash-based technology to track users, the researchers discovered.snip http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/08/19/flash_cookies/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] O.........K............this is........different
The front really does not look all that bad but that box on the back is strange. I have to say that whenever I see something like this I wonder why somone spent so much money for something that makes very little sense but then I tell myself that they are enjoying an auto hobby and trying something new. That is good. I, personally, don't care if I ever see another big block Camaro and yet they seem to be something that a lot of car buffs find to be desirable. To each his own. They are not doing any harm and they periodically come up with something beautiful. Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Hendrik Fay Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 1:45 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] O.Kthis isdifferent http://cgi.ebay.com.au/RETRO-29-BENZ-2001-MODEL_W0QQitemZ260465400436QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_Cars?hash=item3ca4f29a74 _trksid=p3286.c0.m14 I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Hendrik ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] anybody want a cheap E300?
no telling, seems kind of fishy to me, maybe its a flood car or something. Bob Rentfro wrote: not very discriptive on what bad motor is. Wonder what's wrong? Bob R On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 7:27 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-E-Class-E300-D-Mercedes-1995-300D-diesel-needs-engine-work-bad-motor_W0QQitemZ120460510025QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Cars_Trucks?hash=item1c0c018349_trksid=p4506.c0.m245 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090819/c393fb60/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.408 / Virus Database: 270.13.61/2314 - Release Date: 08/19/09 18:06:00 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090820/8edf8789/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Just had my first bad experience with BMW
Who are you trying to convince, us or you? Donald Snook wrote: Wonko wrote: Welcome to reality. Just wait until something breaks. Maybe you can give someone your BMW and $1000 for an old 600-series Benz, and trade up in the headache zone. Maybe I am being naïve, but I think I am going to be okay. My indy has been working on this car for 10 years and he should me the service records. It has been extremely well maintained. The car was owned by a local doctor and he would just bring it in and get whatever done it needed. In a weird coincidence that proves that we live in a small world, I actually defended this same doctor in a lawsuit a few years ago. Assuming the secret to avoiding costly repairs on Mercedes and BMW is to properly maintain them and perform scheduled maintenance and preventive maintenance, then this car should be as reliable as any other complicated luxury with good maintenance records. Donald H. Snook -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090820/4b902957/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.61/2314 - Release Date: 08/19/09 18:06:00 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090820/8a664c92/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] O.........K............this is........different
It's very creative. What did they make it out of? Is it a C230 4matic? It's a nice idea- but they need to hand build new doors and a new interior with leather and wood to match the 20s styling of the front end, and probably cut the roof off and make it into a convertible. I think it *could* be a very neat car, but it's really only half done (or less). Tyler Hendrik Fay wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com.au/RETRO-29-BENZ-2001-MODEL_W0QQitemZ260465400436QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_Cars?hash=item3ca4f29a74_trksid=p3286.c0.m14 I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Hendrik ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Transmission fluid Question
I forgot to mention, BMW owners are not allowed on this list. Donald Snook wrote: According to BMW, the transmission fluid in my car is Lifetime Fluid never needs changing. Well, I think that is horse hockey. When they say lifetime, I don't think they are considering a 12 year old car with 160,000 miles. Here is my difficulty: My indy (who is a MB expert) trusts the local BMW indy who says if the tranny is working fine, then don't do anything to it. But, I joined the BMW forum and half the folks on there say, change that fluid before you have a problem! and others believe in the lifetime fluid idea. I DO NOT have any problems with the transmission. Its working fine. But, in the records I have seen, there has not been a transmission in at least 80,000 and possibly never. There is no dipstick to check the condition of the fluid. The transmission does a filter and a drain plug. It also uses some super duper expensive synthetic fluid. So, the question is: who's right? Do I change the fluid and risk the transmission failing because all the crap in the tranny is what is holding it together? Or, do I just keep driving it and keep my fingers crossed. If I did do some sort of service, I think there are two options. 1. Buy the 15 qts of fluid and do a transmission flush using one of the machines that hooks into the cooler lines - advantage of this is that it cycles ALL of the old fluid out and replaces it all with new fluid. Or 2. Drop the trans pan, replace the filter, and top it off with the 5-6 qts of fluid that will come out when I drop the pan. If I do anything, I am going to go ahead and spring for the BMW fluid, BMW filter and evidently the pan has four magnets (to collect the metal shavings) in it that should be cleaned and replaced. Any ideas?(I wish I knew the BMW version of Marshall Booth!) Donald H. Snook -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090820/4d3b69ed/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.61/2314 - Release Date: 08/19/09 18:06:00 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090820/d7434442/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] O.........K............this is........different
What really amazes me, this guy had enough guts to rack up, and be seen in this heap for 120,000 km! Ed 300E 2009/8/21 Hendrik Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au http://cgi.ebay.com.au/RETRO-29-BENZ-2001-MODEL_W0QQitemZ260465400436QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_Cars?hash=item3ca4f29a74_trksid=p3286.c0.m14 I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Hendrik ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090820/4597f81e/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A/C
you would need to evacuate it. Frederick W Moir wrote: Hi, All. My 190DT has some residual pressure in the A/C system, un-converted R12 I presume. If the system were to be charged with, say, Freeze 12, would it need to be evacuated completely or could the system just take a charge as is? ( I just know I'm gonna regret this). Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.61/2314 - Release Date: 08/19/09 18:06:00 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090820/2859b9fa/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] New radio choice: Sony vs. Kenwood
I'm going to upgrade my radio (currently an old cassette playing Sony, horrible wire-mangle install by some PO) and I've narrowed my list down to Sony vs. Kenwood. Sony: either CDX-GT920U or CDX-GT630UI Kenwood: either KDC-MP642U or KDC-MP942U Can anyone offer an opinion on which is more user-friendly? Any other significant considerations? I've spent hours and hours on Crutchfield's site, and visited a big box retailer to try out an example from Sony and one from Kenwood. Kenwood has a big edge in the number of user-adjustable features, but their user interface is not quite as intuitive as Sony's (small difference in my opinion, likely inconsiderable after I become familiar with the radio). I need the radio to have an Aux input and a USB input, so that I can listen to MP3 (Moneytalk, ClickClack, audio books, etc). I'm also interested in getting a HD-capable radio, so I'll probably get the HD radio add-on accessory for another $50. Kenwood has their inputs on the back of the radio with long pig-tails, so they can be routed to glove box or center console. Very respectfully, /s/ LCDR Max Dillon '87 300TD 313k miles Charleston SC -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090820/c18a46f5/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Just had my first bad experience with BMW
If the car was well care for, as it seems it was, it will go for a long time. Sure, it's a top of the range BMW, so parts are never going to be cheap, but they made enough of them, you can find parts in the bone yard, or through places like Rusty online to keep the running costs down. If the first time you write out a cheque for $1000 puts you off, just remind yourself what a new one would cost you, and how cheaply you're getting to enjoy a top of the range BMW. They're great cars, hope you enjoy it. Ed 300E 2009/8/20 Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net Who are you trying to convince, us or you? Donald Snook wrote: Wonko wrote: Welcome to reality. Just wait until something breaks. Maybe you can give someone your BMW and $1000 for an old 600-series Benz, and trade up in the headache zone. Maybe I am being naïve, but I think I am going to be okay. My indy has been working on this car for 10 years and he should me the service records. It has been extremely well maintained. The car was owned by a local doctor and he would just bring it in and get whatever done it needed. In a weird coincidence that proves that we live in a small world, I actually defended this same doctor in a lawsuit a few years ago. Assuming the secret to avoiding costly repairs on Mercedes and BMW is to properly maintain them and perform scheduled maintenance and preventive maintenance, then this car should be as reliable as any other complicated luxury with good maintenance records. Donald H. Snook -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090820/4b902957/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.61/2314 - Release Date: 08/19/09 18:06:00 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090820/8a664c92/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090820/90d464fd/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Just had my first bad experience with BMW
Last year I dropped by my Inide and he had a 90's 7 series in for some work. I looked inside and everything was taken out from the dash to the firewall. I asked if BMW had evaporator problems too and he said, no, this is just to replace the Climate Control blower. yikes! JJOhn On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 3:42 PM, Kaleb C. Striplinka...@striplin.net wrote: Who are you trying to convince, us or you? Donald Snook wrote: Wonko wrote: Welcome to reality. Just wait until something breaks. Maybe you can give someone your BMW and $1000 for an old 600-series Benz, and trade up in the headache zone. Maybe I am being naïve, but I think I am going to be okay. My indy has been working on this car for 10 years and he should me the service records. It has been extremely well maintained. The car was owned by a local doctor and he would just bring it in and get whatever done it needed. In a weird coincidence that proves that we live in a small world, I actually defended this same doctor in a lawsuit a few years ago. Assuming the secret to avoiding costly repairs on Mercedes and BMW is to properly maintain them and perform scheduled maintenance and preventive maintenance, then this car should be as reliable as any other complicated luxury with good maintenance records. Donald H. Snook -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090820/4b902957/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.61/2314 - Release Date: 08/19/09 18:06:00 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090820/8a664c92/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] And on it goes....
GERMANY: Prosecutors raid Porsche offices 20 August 2009 | Source: just-auto.com editorial team The offices of Porsche have been raided by German federal prosecutors probing alleged insider trading on Volkswagen shares. Porsche said in a statement that that investigative proceedings led by the public prosecutor's office have been carried out at Porsche Automobil Holding SE and Dr. Ing. h.c. F. Porsche AG, both in Stuttgart. Bloomberg reported that the search came after the German financial regulator BaFin handed a complaint to the prosecutors office following a probe into Porsche's attempt to gain control of VW Group. In the raid - which took place this morning - a number of documents were seized. According to Porsche, there is a suspicion of breaching the publication duty as prescribed by the German Stock Corporation Act and of market manipulation. Porsche said it is rejecting these allegations while cooperating with the investigating officials 'in order to clarify the issue as quickly as possible'. Porsche added that those under investigation are former chief executive Wendelin Wiedeking and former chief financial officer Holger Haerter. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090820/26e9154e/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] O.........K............this is........different
Geez. All that work for a so-so car and he still put the steering wheel on the wrong side! Har-de-har-har. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. At 03:44 AM 8/21/2009, you wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com.au/RETRO-29-BENZ-2001-MODEL_W0QQitemZ260465400436QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_Cars?hash=item3ca4f29a74_trksid=p3286.c0.m14 I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Hendrik ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Just had my first bad experience with BMW
- Original Message - From: John Freer mbfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 7:53 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Just had my first bad experience with BMW Last year I dropped by my Inide and he had a 90's 7 series in for some work. I looked inside and everything was taken out from the dash to the firewall. I asked if BMW had evaporator problems too and he said, no, this is just to replace the Climate Control blower. yikes! JJOhn On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 3:42 PM, Kaleb C. Striplinka...@striplin.net wrote: Who are you trying to convince, us or you? Donald Snook wrote: Wonko wrote: Welcome to reality. Just wait until something breaks. Maybe you can give someone your BMW and $1000 for an old 600-series Benz, and trade up in the headache zone. Maybe I am being naïve, but I think I am going to be okay. My indy has been working on this car for 10 years and he should me the service records. It has been extremely well maintained. The car was owned by a local doctor and he would just bring it in and get whatever done it needed. In a weird coincidence that proves that we live in a small world, I actually defended this same doctor in a lawsuit a few years ago. Assuming the secret to avoiding costly repairs on Mercedes and BMW is to properly maintain them and perform scheduled maintenance and preventive maintenance, then this car should be as reliable as any other complicated luxury with good maintenance records. Donald H. Snook -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090820/4b902957/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.61/2314 - Release Date: 08/19/09 18:06:00 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090820/8a664c92/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.408 / Virus Database: 270.13.63/2316 - Release Date: 08/20/09 18:06:00 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Just had my first bad experience with BMW
That will make him sleep better tonight. On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 6:53 PM, John Freer mbfo...@gmail.com wrote: Last year I dropped by my Inide and he had a 90's 7 series in for some work. I looked inside and everything was taken out from the dash to the firewall. I asked if BMW had evaporator problems too and he said, no, this is just to replace the Climate Control blower. yikes! -- The young officer thought it very odd that his captain seemed to trust and confide in his chiefs more than his wardroom, but mustang officers had their own ways. -- Tom Clancy, Clear and Present Danger. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090820/600dad42/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Just had my first bad experience with BMW
John Freer wrote: Last year I dropped by my Inide and he had a 90's 7 series in for some work. I looked inside and everything was taken out from the dash to the firewall. I asked if BMW had evaporator problems too and he said, no, this is just to replace the Climate Control blower. This seems like a common problem. My aunt had a 740 with that multi-thousand dollar wrench dance as well. Then it got wrecked and she bought a C Class. I think she's driving a Hyundai now. (She trades cars almost as often as Don; must be something in the water there in Kansas.) Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] O.........K............this is........different
What really amazes me, this guy had enough guts to rack up, and be seen in this heap for 120,000 km! Love 20's styling. Don't like that. Just something wrong, it doesn't have style consistency. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A/C
My 190DT has some residual pressure in the A/C system, un-converted R12 I presume. If the system were to be charged with, say, Freeze 12, would it need to be evacuated completely or could the system just take a charge as is? ( I just know I'm gonna regret this). I would evacuate, since you have no idea what that pressure really is. It could be half air for all you know. It's safe enough to just top off if you know that it's never gotten low enough pressure to ever suck in air, but pretty much only under your stewardship. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Lost key on a 300SD, 1981
PT said he found the keys about two hours ago and thanks everyone for their help. Now get the new key/tumbler and fix it right, so that next time you can't have this problem. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] spousal subterfuge
The identical-looking SDL was in the garage, evidently seldom-visited
by SWMBO. Identical SEL sitting outside in clear view while he was
trying frantically to bring it up to acceptable standards
(condition) before she discovered the ruse. ;)
Yes. She even rode in it and kept saying I don't remember this,
or that. ('90 styling and equipage is not quite exactly '86.)
Finally I said You wouldn't Ouch.
And the Mrs. didn't notice the presence of another car?
One benefit of having more than a dozen of the things
lying around. (Benefit?) She's gotten a bit numb. Numb,
yet highly incensed.
Jim, how did you pull this off? How long did it take? What was her
reaction?
No special effort, wasn't really even trying. Just avoided
certain key words, like new, subspecies bought a. A week.
Not good.
Jim, you are either my hero or the greatest criminal mind since Lex
Luther (or both).
I know what one household voter here would say.
(Rhymes with flickhead.)
And, now, other women are beginning flirt with 'im when he's
driving the SL.
I can guess her reaction: Take her out, buy her flowers, GIVE HER A
CAR!
(Have I mentioned that she's really upset about the car quantity?
I'm looking forward to the departure of Ethelred, either by sale
or by my snowbird Dad's borrowing of it to take to Arizona.
I'll tell him to sell it there when he's tired of it.)
If we could get a G300D 463 here I'd dump a handful of
sedans in exchange, no problem. Big, 4WD, cushy, diesel.
What's not to like?
-- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] O.........K............this is........different
DOES NOT DEVALUE! Hahahahahahahahahahahah!!! -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090820/18aacf4d/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] what is maintenance?
Assuming the secret to avoiding costly repairs on Mercedes and BMW is to properly maintain them and perform scheduled maintenance and preventive maintenance, then this car should be as reliable as any other complicated luxury with good maintenance records... I must repectfully disagree. Most of the unreliable component parts in MBs and presumably BMWs have failure modes unrelated to any action of the owner. And those are the parts that were badly designed or under designed in the first place. There are many examples but as just one, I submit the vacuum servo heater valve in the 123s. There is nothing an owner can do to lengthen or shorten this misbegotten part's life. Some of the most famous in recent years are the electronic modules in the early 211s and 203s. How about 211 taillight sockets? Well, the list could be endless. But for certain, no amount of oil changes, trans changes or alignments and fuse replacements scrupulously recorded in a little book will ward off these failures. Some day I will bore you to tears with the list of early failures in my 123, 201X2, 202 and 203 not to mention the later out of warranty crap-outs. RLE -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090820/eea0c357/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 240D door rust repair
Check out the door rust repair I did on my 82 240D. www.stricht8garage.shutterfly.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
