Re: [MBZ] Mystery noise

2010-02-02 Thread Fmiser
> > "Rich Thomas" wrote: > > > > though a bad CVjoint will clack -- does it make the sound in > > reverse? > Allan Streib wrote: > > No, actually it does not seem to at all. What you have described could be a CV joint. But I'm not certain - not without hearing/feeling it. Which is a bit difficu

Re: [MBZ] OT Are Toyota owners stupid?

2010-02-02 Thread Allan Streib
On Tue, 02 Feb 2010 23:47 -0500, "Tim C" wrote: > I'll tell my grandkids how in my youth I'd buy cars and 'maintain' and > 'repair' them and they'll look at me like I have two heads. Or maybe > not, perhaps I'll have a harem of pristine W123s, W124s, and W126s Or a Red Barchetta __

Re: [MBZ] OT Are Toyota owners stupid?

2010-02-02 Thread Tim C
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 5:35 PM, Peter Hertzing wrote: > My Parents have been toyota drivers since the had K cars in the 80s (enough > to scare anyone).  I find them to be reliable, uncomfortable, boring and > full of plastic parts that crack the first time something has to be fixed. > I'll stick w

Re: [MBZ] One bad glow plug spoils the whole bunch?

2010-02-02 Thread Tim C
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 10:49 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: > It is whatever was in the set, with like a 10deg angle on the geared end. >  Fit quite nicely and cleared all the other mess (injector lines) in the > way.  I think I got them at Sears.  I think the rear one is actually #1 > according to the nu

Re: [MBZ] CL annoyances

2010-02-02 Thread Tim C
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 6:37 PM, R A Bennell wrote: > I was trying to sell an F150 last fall. We ended up keeping it and my elder > son is driving it this winter since no > one seemed willing to pay anything reasonable for it. I had one fellow make > me an offer online without seeing it. I > aske

Re: [MBZ] One bad glow plug spoils the whole bunch?

2010-02-02 Thread Rich Thomas
It is whatever was in the set, with like a 10deg angle on the geared end. Fit quite nicely and cleared all the other mess (injector lines) in the way. I think I got them at Sears. I think the rear one is actually #1 according to the numbers on the relay. --R Tim C wrote: On Tue, Feb 2, 20

Re: [MBZ] MB prices

2010-02-02 Thread E M
Keep it as dry as you can until you get around to it. Yeah, my old Pontiac was the one I got my license in too, as well as doing a little driving before I was 16, on private roads of course. Ed 300E On 2 February 2010 21:55, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: > I plan on restoring it, well, I have plann

Re: [MBZ] One bad glow plug spoils the whole bunch?

2010-02-02 Thread Allan Streib
On Tue, 02 Feb 2010 21:23 -0600, "Dieselhead" <126die...@gmail.com> wrote: > VWs through the 80s at least used the same 80 A strip for GP, and I > think they used the 30A strip elsewhere. That used to be the solution > I used in the pre-internet days. They all the free-standing VW > dealers clo

Re: [MBZ] loosing

2010-02-02 Thread Rich Thomas
Looser. --R relng...@aol.com wrote: deliberate - there is loose stuff all over the floor in the back seat.. Big Mac wrappers? RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebe

Re: [MBZ] One bad glow plug spoils the whole bunch?

2010-02-02 Thread Dieselhead
VWs through the 80s at least used the same 80 A strip for GP, and I think they used the 30A strip elsewhere. That used to be the solution I used in the pre-internet days. They all the free-standing VW dealers closed and the honda /toada/ whatever dealer magically became a vw dealer 50 or 10

[MBZ] Knives

2010-02-02 Thread Craig McCluskey
Someone was asking about knives recently. In case you're interested, here is a link to a Winchester 3-Piece Pakka Cherry Knife Set for $18.00. http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productNumber=376081&eblastid=202201016&utm_source=winchesterknifeset&utm_medium=eblast202201016 __

Re: [MBZ] Wagon prices?

2010-02-02 Thread Gary Hurst
snook flips another one! On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 9:20 AM, Donald Snook wrote: > Gary Hurst wrote: > "and the 124 4matic talk hasn't scared you?" > > and Mitch wrote: "You're talking to a fellow who bought two BMWs." > > Not only bought two BMWs, but likely has one of them sold today. I got a > $

Re: [MBZ] One bad glow plug spoils the whole bunch?

2010-02-02 Thread Tim C
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 5:56 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: > OK I replaced the offending glow plug (thank you to the suggester of the > Gearwrench -- made the job much easier), car still did not want to start. Forgive me for stupid, but I didn't see a Gearwrench that I thought would help. The pivoting h

Re: [MBZ] CL annoyances

2010-02-02 Thread Mountain Man
clay wrote: > At > least I can show I used large bundles of cash to keep it up, so the > insurance people will pay me more than clunker price Didja git yer parts yett? ...this will reely bugg RLE as I stiff him wit bad linguage. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] One bad glow plug spoils the whole bunch?

2010-02-02 Thread John Reames
Aaah... A sacrifice of the flesh. Nothing else is quite as effective at satisfying whatever gremlins are causing mechanical woes... There's this stuff called duct tape you can wrap around sharp things like injection pipe clamps... And masking tape for the edges of the holes in panels (door

Re: [MBZ] One bad glow plug spoils the whole bunch?

2010-02-02 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
first and only. John Reames wrote: First or only? -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D,

Re: [MBZ] MB prices

2010-02-02 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I plan on restoring it, well, I have planned on restoring it for many years. I need to get that car done. Its the car I took my drivers license test in. E M wrote: My first car was my Grandmothers old Pontiac LeMans. I was unable to keep it due to limited space living in the city, and it wa

Re: [MBZ] OT Are Toyota owners stupid?

2010-02-02 Thread John Reames
It is fairly easy to turn off the engine in a running e300td at highway speeds... It's a little more challenging to restart it and get the tranny to go back in gear -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Feb 2, 2010, at 12:27, Jaime Kopchinski w

Re: [MBZ] Mystery noise

2010-02-02 Thread Allan Streib
On Tue, 02 Feb 2010 11:01 -0500, "Mitch Haley" wrote: > How do the rubber flex disks on the drive shaft look? > If those get noisy, they may be about to fly apart. Would any problems be obvious on visual inspection? Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz

Re: [MBZ] Mystery noise

2010-02-02 Thread Allan Streib
On Tue, 02 Feb 2010 09:59 -0500, "Rich Thomas" wrote: > Brakes? Brakes are new. New rotors, new calipers, new pads. I double checked to be sure I had not neglected to tighten the caliper bolts. > though a bad CVjoint will clack -- does it make the sound in reverse? No, actually it does not

Re: [MBZ] stopping, or not

2010-02-02 Thread Allan Streib
Sounds like these software-operated cars need what every data center has next to the exit door: a Big Red Button. A kill switch. Something you can hit and it will absolutely, positively shut down the engine. Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used

Re: [MBZ] CL annoyances

2010-02-02 Thread Redghost
When SWMBA purchased the E300D, it came with a folder full of receipts from new in L.A. I add paper to it as the car incurs parts and such. SWMBA would just toss all the paper in the round file and forget it. I even have six years of Gump paper. There was a little from the PO, but nothin

[MBZ] Older MBs

2010-02-02 Thread tom tomscat
Hi Dwight, I haven't had occasion to utilize the service dept at Carriage House, mainly because I 'know a guy'--- actually two guys--- who do the work out of their house. One guy (they call him 'John Mercedes') even makes house calls, or used to, until some recent health issues arose. I h

Re: [MBZ] Appliances

2010-02-02 Thread RELNGSON
> My Parents have been toyota drivers since the had K cars in the 80s > (enough > to scare anyone).  I find them to be reliable, uncomfortable, boring... > There are millions who consider a car to be nothing more than a place to sit, inside out of the rain, while travelling from A to B. No

Re: [MBZ] Pompoos and pokey?

2010-02-02 Thread RELNGSON
...Have you noticed that a LOT of Toyota owners are pompous, self rightous b**bs who are totally convinced that they have done the intelligent thing because Consumer Reports told them it was best?.. You are confusing them with the Prius People. "What do you mean, move it?" RLE > > __

Re: [MBZ] loosing

2010-02-02 Thread RELNGSON
> deliberate - there is loose stuff all over the floor in the back > seat.. > Big Mac wrappers? RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or chang

Re: [MBZ] one syllable

2010-02-02 Thread RELNGSON
> ...You can't count... > A slight exaggeration, just for effect. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://ok

Re: [MBZ] CR

2010-02-02 Thread RELNGSON
> Interesting -- on the NPR interview they had a guy from Consumer > Reports, and they referred to CR as the most authoritative recommender > for cars or some such... > Who else does what they do? The IIHS crash tests them but nothing else. The magazine road tests provide another data point

Re: [MBZ] airplanes - for Wilton?

2010-02-02 Thread Mitch Haley
Mountain Man wrote: Interesting show about an airline that flies very vintage airplanes. http://www.willflyforfree.com/?page_id=32 That's pretty good, as reality' shows like Ax Men and Ice Road Truckers go. I'm on episode 3 now. Mitch. ___ http://www.oki

Re: [MBZ] Descriptions

2010-02-02 Thread RELNGSON
> Randy frankly sez... > > ..On the other hand my 76 115 300D is in good shape for its age too. It > has been painted and the job is not perfect. > There is some bondo in the lower quarters behind the rear wheels. The > seats are loosing their stuffing. The vacuum > system needs some work as I o

[MBZ] Check Out These Photos

2010-02-02 Thread LWB250
This guy has done some really cool stuff: http://www.flickr.com/photos/24796...@n05/sets/72157604247242338/ Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Uns

Re: [MBZ] CL annoyances

2010-02-02 Thread WILTON
And this was where - in Canada? I've forgotten. Wilton - Original Message - From: "R A Bennell" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 6:42 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] CL annoyances My brother in law once offered an old Ford pickup for sale for $400. He was tru

Re: [MBZ] CL annoyances

2010-02-02 Thread WILTON
Absolutely. Caveat Emptor, as "they" say - buyer beware. They've made me so "mistrusting" I might not even trust Kaleb on a car purchase now without checking it out for myself. ;< Wilton - Original Message - From: "E M" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, February

Re: [MBZ] Electronic......

2010-02-02 Thread RELNGSON
> feel there are two places that Toyota failed: > 1)  The input from the accelerator should have been ignored when the brake > was pressed... Mercedes has been doing this since at least the W211 > introduction and I've experienced it myself (out of curiosity, not in an > emergency). > The W203

Re: [MBZ] stopping, or not

2010-02-02 Thread Mitch Haley
relng...@aol.com wrote: With regard to the comments about incompetent drivers (it always seems to be the other guy), the fact that the driver was a CHP Trooper belies that, in my opinion. At trial, all will be revealed, methinks. Cops around here drive like shit, state troopers probably except

Re: [MBZ] stopping, or not

2010-02-02 Thread RELNGSON
> The case of the 4 people that died in the lexus bothers me the most. > Electronic igniton and shifter meant that all the basic things you'd like > to do, switch off the engine or change gears, doesn't work. I'd also expect > that a very powerful car already traveling a high speed will be di

Re: [MBZ] CL annoyances

2010-02-02 Thread R A Bennell
My brother in law once offered an old Ford pickup for sale for $400. He was truly amazed that several people called and asked if it had any rust. What were those people thinking? It had about as much rust as it had body. What did they think they would get for $400. It ran. It used oil and it was

Re: [MBZ] CL annoyances

2010-02-02 Thread R A Bennell
I would agree with you on that one Wilton. Most often they are wasting their own time if they get you there on false pretenses in any event. I am also annoyed by folks who make an offer without coming to look first. I assume they either are not serious or will then use that as a starting point an

Re: [MBZ] CL annoyances

2010-02-02 Thread E M
I agree, once you learn you've been lied to, it sours the whole tone of the deal, and often results in any potential buyer just walking away in mistrust. Ed 300E On 2 February 2010 18:14, WILTON wrote: > But one should not lie about any of it one way or the other. If one does > not know, all h

Re: [MBZ] CL annoyances

2010-02-02 Thread Donald Snook
Randy wrote: "Come on, face it. Most of us are totally unreasonable when it comes to cars. We want a cream puff but we want it for the price of a POS. Almost no one keeps detailed records of cars and repairs. Almost no one has much of an idea of when a car should be serviced. We are the oddballs

Re: [MBZ] ON TOPIC for a change - MB

2010-02-02 Thread E M
I think the vintage of ML you're referring to, from everything I've heard and been told, are pretty much junk. All kinds of problems, and best avoided. You can pick them up very cheap, for a reason. I don't think these are European assembled. Somewhere in NC or SC I think ? Not that I believe

Re: [MBZ] CL annoyances

2010-02-02 Thread WILTON
But one should not lie about any of it one way or the other. If one does not know, all he has to say is, "I don't know." If he has only the records for the year he's had the car, he should say, 'I have records for work I've had done during the year or whatever time I've had it." He should not

Re: [MBZ] One bad glow plug spoils the whole bunch?

2010-02-02 Thread Rich Thomas
OK I replaced the offending glow plug (thank you to the suggester of the Gearwrench -- made the job much easier), car still did not want to start. So I CHANGED THE FUSE (do you know the fuse is permanently charged with 12V, and if they had moved the relay about a half inch over a screwdriver w

Re: [MBZ] CL annoyances

2010-02-02 Thread Rich Thomas
If you want me to advice you, you will have too pay. --R R A Bennell wrote: OK, advise me! Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 4:26 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List

Re: [MBZ] OT Are Toyota owners stupid?

2010-02-02 Thread R A Bennell
We have had a couple of Toyotas in the not too distant past. A 95 4Runner that is rusty and sitting on my garden yet and a 98 Avalon that was a nice car in some respects but caused a fair amount of trouble. My wife now has an 07 Honda Accord. I tried to get her to think about an Impala or someth

[MBZ] ON TOPIC for a change - MB

2010-02-02 Thread R A Bennell
I talked to a client at lunch today. His MB has been in an indy shop for a week while they wait for parts ( - did not get a chance to ask for what). It is a 2000 ML320 I think - the short SUV type thing. He bought it new, or rather, leased it for the first few years, and then bought the vehicle

Re: [MBZ] OT Are Toyota owners stupid?

2010-02-02 Thread Peter Hertzing
My Parents have been toyota drivers since the had K cars in the 80s (enough to scare anyone). I find them to be reliable, uncomfortable, boring and full of plastic parts that crack the first time something has to be fixed. I'll stick with Volvo and Mercedes thanks. Peter On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 4

Re: [MBZ] OT Are Toyota owners stupid?

2010-02-02 Thread R A Bennell
Ever wonder how much Toyota et al pay to CR under the table?? Randy in conspiracy mode -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 4:28 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [

Re: [MBZ] OT Are Toyota owners stupid?

2010-02-02 Thread Mitch Haley
R A Bennell wrote: Have you noticed that a LOT of Toyota owners are pompous, self rightous b**bs who are totally convinced that they have done the intelligent thing because Consumer Reports told them it was best? You ought to read the accumulated 'wisdom' at Fatwallet.com. All Toyota and Hond

Re: [MBZ] CL annoyances

2010-02-02 Thread R A Bennell
OK, advise me! Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 4:26 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] CL annoyances I have some good advise for you too! --R Ke

Re: [MBZ] CL annoyances

2010-02-02 Thread R A Bennell
deliberate - there is loose stuff all over the floor in the back seat so they are "loosing" the horse hair or whatever that stuff is used as "stuffing". I could have suggested they were shedding since it might be hair? So far so good with the heater though! Randy -Original Message- Fro

Re: [MBZ] CL annoyances

2010-02-02 Thread Rich Thomas
I have some good advise for you too! --R Kevin Kraly wrote: The seats are loosing their stuffing I'm sure that both the break petal and accelerator peddle have wear too. Since the heater blower still works, it's priceless! Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon ___

Re: [MBZ] TITLE TRANSFER

2010-02-02 Thread Rich Thomas
You can't count. --R relng...@aol.com wrote: ...What state(s) do that? WDC or left coast Washington? Wow, tagging the new owner with the PO's debts - that's got to be a really popular way to raise revenue. Either I'm blessed to live in a state that doesn't do that or I've been blessed with

Re: [MBZ] OT Are Toyota owners stupid?

2010-02-02 Thread Rich Thomas
Interesting -- on the NPR interview they had a guy from Consumer Reports, and they referred to CR as the most authoritative recommender for cars or some such. Listen here http://www.npr.org/templates/player/mediaPlayer.html?action=1&t=1&islist=false&id=123251662&m=123251866 At 3:30 he stumbl

Re: [MBZ] CL annoyances

2010-02-02 Thread E M
I have a peek at times on CL to see what's out there, and average asking prices, but I haven't bought anything through them, so can't really comment on most of what they advertise. The one time I did go shopping via AutoTrader and newspapers, was about 12 years ago, when I wanted an old VW Bug. T

[MBZ] Older MB's -was Fo-matic

2010-02-02 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr
The dealer I use-Carriage House in New London CT has special program with posters of a w115 & a w108 that says-"Classic Care Program"-they advertise that their 3 classic mechanics have 78 years of experience combined-they offer flat bed service (like form from Westchester County NY) where the deale

Re: [MBZ] CL annoyances

2010-02-02 Thread Kevin Kraly
The seats are loosing their stuffing I'm sure that both the break petal and accelerator peddle have wear too. Since the heater blower still works, it's priceless! Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.oki

Re: [MBZ] TITLE TRANSFER

2010-02-02 Thread RELNGSON
> ...What state(s) do that?  WDC or left coast Washington?  Wow, tagging > the > new owner with the PO's debts - that's got to be a really popular way to > raise revenue.  Either I'm blessed to live in a state that doesn't do > that or I've been blessed with my purchases thus far.  As far as I kno

Re: [MBZ] OT Are Toyota owners stupid?

2010-02-02 Thread R A Bennell
Have you noticed that a LOT of Toyota owners are pompous, self rightous b**bs who are totally convinced that they have done the intelligent thing because Consumer Reports told them it was best? Many are teachers, and middle level government managers who couldn't change their own mind without co

Re: [MBZ] CL annoyances

2010-02-02 Thread R A Bennell
Come on, face it. Most of us are totally unreasonable when it comes to cars. We want a cream puff but we want it for the price of a POS. Almost no one keeps detailed records of cars and repairs. Almost no one has much of an idea of when a car should be serviced. We are the oddballs when it comes

Re: [MBZ] CL annoyances

2010-02-02 Thread pm7088
You should get a lawyer... -- Peter Arnold Windsor, CT - Original Message - From: "Donald Snook" To: "Mercedes@okiebenz.com" Sent: Tuesday, February 2, 2010 2:57:27 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [MBZ] CL annoyances Sorry for the rant. My blood pressure is up now!

Re: [MBZ] CL annoyances

2010-02-02 Thread WILTON
Yeah, the false ads make me damned mad, too, especially the one about having "all maintenance records." After all, in MY language that means "EVERY DAMNED ONE OF 'EM -100%" - not just the 2 or 3, etc., since seller has had the car, or the few since he's been trying to sell it, etc. I've driven

Re: [MBZ] OT Are Toyota owners stupid?

2010-02-02 Thread Allan Streib
On Tue, 02 Feb 2010 14:43 -0500, "Jaime Kopchinski" wrote: > The direction of heavy computerization is only a natural one for cars > and it will continue and improve. Overall, its a very good thing and > shouldn't be feared. On the other hand http://news.cnet.com/8301-13924_3-10445564-64.h

Re: [MBZ] CL annoyances

2010-02-02 Thread Allan Streib
On Tue, 02 Feb 2010 13:57 -0600, "Donald Snook" wrote: > "maintenance records" This one has been referenced many times recently. > One of the cars I drove over to look at had two O'Reilly's auto parts > receipts and the last two oil change receipts from Wal Mart. As I posted yesterday, this is

Re: [MBZ] CL annoyances

2010-02-02 Thread Rich Thomas
See the discussion on Toyotas regarding your average driver (and the venture we are going on). And the proper term is "BLOWS ICE COLD" (which this time of year means the heat doesn't work either). Speleeng duz note sem 2 bee a stenth of CL listers ether. --R Donald Snook wrote: What the he

[MBZ] CL annoyances

2010-02-02 Thread Donald Snook
Searching through craigslist is sometimes like walking through a farmer's field that has cows grazing in it. You really have to be careful or you are going to step in a big pile of manure. Some of the annoyances of the list members have been pointed out several times. For example: "ice cold

Re: [MBZ] One bad glow plug spoils the whole bunch?

2010-02-02 Thread WILTON
Yes, Bosch is Bosch. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Mitch Haley" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 2:32 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] One bad glow plug spoils the whole bunch? WILTON wrote: Several years ago, I needed a strip fuse for my '81 300D (may hav

Re: [MBZ] OT Are Toyota owners stupid?

2010-02-02 Thread Mitch Haley
Jaime Kopchinski wrote: The case of the 4 people that died in the lexus bothers me the most. Electronic igniton and shifter meant that all the basic things you'd like to do, switch off the engine or change gears, doesn't work. I'd also expect that a very powerful car already traveling a high spe

Re: [MBZ] OT Are Toyota owners stupid?

2010-02-02 Thread Rich Thomas
Good points. "They should have known better" You, Snooks and me are going after them. We'll be rolling in so much cash when we get done that Obama and the IRS will have us on speed dial. --R Jaime Kopchinski wrote: I suppose my point is that state of the art cars are very complex today, an

Re: [MBZ] OT Are Toyota owners stupid?

2010-02-02 Thread Jaime Kopchinski
I suppose my point is that state of the art cars are very complex today, and lesser priced cars are catching up quickly. 10 years ago is a very long time ago in technology. Its difficult to really understand unless you've been behind the wheel of a high end lexus, BMW, etc while someone explains

Re: [MBZ] One bad glow plug spoils the whole bunch?

2010-02-02 Thread Rusty Cullens
Actually www.buyMBparts.biz has it for $1.03, PN 0005450334 Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. www.buyMBparts.biz Tel/ 1-800-741-5252 Fax/ 770-454-9745 ICQ 427542441 AIM BuyMBparts - Original Message - From: "Mitch Haley" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 2

Re: [MBZ] One bad glow plug spoils the whole bunch?

2010-02-02 Thread Mitch Haley
WILTON wrote: Several years ago, I needed a strip fuse for my '81 300D (may have been 30A blower fuse). Before calling Rusty or checking with MB stealer, I was passing local VW stealer; pulled in, showed parts guy the pieces of old fuse. He reached behind him to shelf and handed me the exact

Re: [MBZ] One bad glow plug spoils the whole bunch?

2010-02-02 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
Thanks Wilton, I may try that. I think there's a VW dealer much closer to home than the MB dealer. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of WILTON Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 1:42 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List

Re: [MBZ] OT Are Toyota owners stupid?

2010-02-02 Thread Rich Thomas
On the first point, you are probably correct. But that is denying the problem and addresses the symptom. On the second point, my newest vehicle is only 10 yr old, don't know if that qualifies as "modern" or not, but it is not radically different from a year old vehicle, or maybe I am missing

Re: [MBZ] One bad glow plug spoils the whole bunch?

2010-02-02 Thread WILTON
Several years ago, I needed a strip fuse for my '81 300D (may have been 30A blower fuse). Before calling Rusty or checking with MB stealer, I was passing local VW stealer; pulled in, showed parts guy the pieces of old fuse. He reached behind him to shelf and handed me the exact Bosch replacem

Re: [MBZ] A chicken coop has ? doors? Chicken sedanmaybe?"Gorgeous" 1976 Mercedes 240 D Coupe For Sale - $1400(Walterboro)

2010-02-02 Thread WILTON
I've said since I was a 6 to 10-year-old little boy helping to push the family's '37 Ford, "Nothing is more worthless than a car that you have to push." 'Still applies - even to a Mercedes. Wilton - Original Message - From: "R A Bennell" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Tuesda

Re: [MBZ] MB prices

2010-02-02 Thread E M
Not hard to do with an older German car, eh. Ed 300E On 2 February 2010 11:40, Allan Streib wrote: > The one time I tried the "do whatever else doesn't look as it should" > directive I received a $1,500 bill. I'll never make that mistake again. > > > On Tue, 02 Feb 2010 10:55 -0500, "E M" wro

Re: [MBZ] OT Are Toyota owners stupid?

2010-02-02 Thread E M
What was that old joke, "If you happen to find yourself on a ferry to Holland, with Pinto parked in front of you, and an Audi behind you, you know you're screwed!!" hee hee Ed 300E On 2 February 2010 11:33, Rich Thomas wrote: > So yesterday I hear NPR telling me the Toyota problem is 1) a carpet

Re: [MBZ] Fo-matic

2010-02-02 Thread E M
You could be right. The way I see it, I'm a used car buyer, so I'm one of their largest profit margin customers to start with, and older cars break more often, being old, so I also provide them with their second largest margin of profit, servicing, and new parts. I could be wrong, but perhaps par

Re: [MBZ] why drive a 40mpg 240D when you can drive this

2010-02-02 Thread WILTON
'Big fan mounted on the trunk and blowing forward for perpetual tail wind; rear suspension raised - always going down hill. ;< Wilton - Original Message - From: "E M" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 9:45 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] why drive a 40mpg

Re: [MBZ] Fo-matic

2010-02-02 Thread Donald Snook
Allan S. wrote: "The dealer was likely well aware that he'd alienate a few customers by refusing to service their older cars. From his standpoint, they are not buying new cars (or at least not often) and their old cars are unfamiliar to the service techs so they take more time in the shop. A Me

Re: [MBZ] Fo-matic

2010-02-02 Thread Donald Snook
Jim wrote: "If he wants to effect a change, or at least enhance the impact of his decision, he does need to go back. Preferably parking out front, he needs to wander in and speak to the service manager, or even the general manager. "Hi, remember me? I bought XXX new in YYY, and according to m

Re: [MBZ] OT Are Toyota owners stupid?

2010-02-02 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
I don't care what engine or what controls for it or the transmission you have, the brakes are certainly far more powerful than the engine and a 'reasonable man/woman' should be able to stand on the brake pedal and bring the car to a stop. Once you've stopped the motion, then call 911 or your lawye

Re: [MBZ] OT Are Toyota owners stupid?

2010-02-02 Thread Jaime Kopchinski
Its clear that you are not considering anyone who is less techinically competent than you are. Its also clear you haven't spent any time behind the wheel of very modern automobiles. Drive by wire isn't a new thing, as we all know. It was even used in later W124s. When you get into electronic tra

Re: [MBZ] A chicken coop has ? doors? Chicken sedan maybe?"Gorgeous" 1976 Mercedes 240 D Coupe For Sale - $1400 (Walterboro)

2010-02-02 Thread R A Bennell
BUT what is "georgous" about a car that needs an engine? Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,53310 Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 9:18 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List

Re: [MBZ] Fo-matic

2010-02-02 Thread Curt Raymond
It'd also be fun to see the bowing and scraping afterward... -Curt Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 07:27:28 -0800 From: Jim Cathey To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fo-matic Message-ID: <78b7c996-100f-11df-82b4-000502d9a...@windwireless.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; form

Re: [MBZ] OT Are Toyota owners stupid?

2010-02-02 Thread John Freer
Additional local info about that Lexus crash..it was a loaner car and had a push button start/stop button. Driver pushed it once but car didn't shut off. Wasn't told that he needed to depress the button for 2 or 3 seconds to activate. Some day they will invent a system whereby the driver insert

Re: [MBZ] Is it Friday Yet

2010-02-02 Thread Mitch Haley
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Re: [MBZ] OT Are Toyota owners stupid?

2010-02-02 Thread Dieselhead
Sheeple The answers to the subject and the ending questions: Yes, Yes Maybe it is Darwin at work? --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or chan

Re: [MBZ] OT Are Toyota owners stupid?

2010-02-02 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
Too easy to get a driver's license here (USA)? A fellow Naval officer was talking about training his son to drive; "Making the car go where you want (son) is easy. The hard part is watching out for the other idiots who will try to kill you!" One of the main reasons why I drive a Benz, now I nee

Re: [MBZ] MB prices

2010-02-02 Thread Allan Streib
The one time I tried the "do whatever else doesn't look as it should" directive I received a $1,500 bill. I'll never make that mistake again. On Tue, 02 Feb 2010 10:55 -0500, "E M" wrote: > The one thing I find about serving cars at home at times, or when a > car is taken in for "just the asked

Re: [MBZ] OT Are Toyota owners stupid?

2010-02-02 Thread Peter Hertzing
Yea - Remember 60 mins about the uhaul women driver who couldn't get the cruise control turned off and rammed a family in a minivan. Don't remember the mortality, but she drove with the cruise stuck on forever - like 20 miles. It was uhauls fault she wrecked. Come on. If you can't trouble shoo

[MBZ] OT Are Toyota owners stupid?

2010-02-02 Thread Rich Thomas
So yesterday I hear NPR telling me the Toyota problem is 1) a carpet jamming the accelerator pedal, 2) a fault with the accelerator pedal mechanism, and 3) "runaway unintended acceleration." Then they had this clip of someone calling 911 and saying their Lexus was accelerating and going too fa

Re: [MBZ] Fo-matic

2010-02-02 Thread Rich Thomas
Same deal as baggage charges these days with airlines. They started that up a couple years ago when fuel prices were higher, as a means of recouping costs nominally associated with hauling bags around (though its not like passengers discovered the joys of bags when fuel prices went up). Now f

[MBZ] Is it Friday Yet

2010-02-02 Thread pm7088
Do not open until Friday, would be fair to your boss for you to go home silly in Ground Hog Day! http://thereifixedit.com/ Pete ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archiv

Re: [MBZ] Fo-matic

2010-02-02 Thread Peter Hertzing
I agree - most shops use the Sutherland's manual (or computer equivalent) to develop the estimate for services. When I worked in a shop the front of the manual said something like the hourly shop rate includes such things as cost of speciality tools for completing the job, assumed expenses such as

Re: [MBZ] Fo-matic

2010-02-02 Thread E M
On one of my trips to the dealer for parts, I sat down with a sales guy and asked him to find me a much newer E Class. One similar to what the service holding area was filled with. My thoughts, one of those owners must be moving up into a new car soon. Simple request, find me a better than avera

Re: [MBZ] Fo-matic

2010-02-02 Thread E M
We have similar rules here, as well as a customer having the right to ask for all old parts to be returned to them. The point with the rags was, its was small change compared to the total bill. I wasn't complaining about the bill, but the nerve to charge me to wipe down what was a clean car when

Re: [MBZ] Mystery noise

2010-02-02 Thread Mitch Haley
Allan Streib wrote: Still trying to sort out a noise that I get at low speeds in my W123 300D. How do the rubber flex disks on the drive shaft look? If those get noisy, they may be about to fly apart. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used par

Re: [MBZ] Wagon prices?

2010-02-02 Thread E M
That perfect Mercedes is probably the one they haven't built yet, but it's fun trying a bunch while waiting for it, isn't it. ;-) lol Ed 300E On 2 February 2010 09:20, Donald Snook wrote: > Gary Hurst wrote: > "and the 124 4matic talk hasn't scared you?" > > and Mitch wrote: "You're talking to

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