Re: [MBZ] OT: nice story related to the car hobby
Thanks for sharing that, Tom! Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Porsche GT3 Cup at Pike's Peak
There is an old saying along the line of any fool can race a car up a mountain, it takes skill to race it down. This rich kid ain't got it. Hendrik who doesn't have enough money to play like this relng...@aol.com wrote: http://forums.190slgroup.com/showthread.php?7841 RLE ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Speakers!
That's interesting about the rear speakers. The shop that put in the new Becker Monza and manual antenna just tested them for receiving power and said there was power to the rear but not the speakers. . Radio came from former lister John Peterson-I think out of his 300D 2.5t when he put in a stock Becker with CD that he bought in Das Vaterland. Dwight Star Motors and Shellfish Co. Shucking but no Jiving Dwight Giles, Jr Bissell Cove Wickford RI 02852 -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 9:01 PM To: Diesel List Subject: [MBZ] Speakers! Dwights 240D has a very nice Becker Monza stereo but the rear speakers weren't doing anything so tonight after installing the last sunvisor clip I investigated. Turns out they were disconnected, the wires were clipped... They were clipped apparently because they didn't work. Too bad the covers are awesome brown '70s looking things. The Alpines in Hammie work but crackle, I presume the moisture from the leaking rear window was killing them. Turns out they were crackly because one had apiece of duct tape(!?!) inside. Installed in Dwight's car they sound pretty good for crappy speakers but are really too big for the holes and look much less awesome than what was there. Amazon and Crutchfield agree that these are 5 1/4 speakers, Amazon had a set of Pioneers for $31 delivered so I sprung for those, they'll go nicely under the Pioneer grills. The grills are a little beat up, I think I'll paint them with the same brown I used on the sunvisor clips, '70srific! -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: nice story related to the car hobby
Tom, Neat Story-you are clearly doing good work-someday I 'd like to stop by and see your shop when you get it set up. Maybe you should bring a tow rope to the Chowdah fest and Curt can tow Hammie down and donate it to your program. Wouldn't the state park officials love that? Dwight Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 218K + miles. 1990 300D 2.5t 182K miles. Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 11:22 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: nice story related to the car hobby Well, that is gratifying, and eco-friendly too I suppose by keeping older vehicles running. I do hope you introduced Carmen to the local cultural norm of using seatbelts -- this was a common problem in Texas, where apparently those of recent arrival from lands south of the border believed that seatbelt use was wimpy, or something. Whatever the reason, it was not their cultural norm (as was explained in various articles following significant incidents). Usual results were multiple injuries/fatalities whenever a driver crashed a vehicle, esp children as there was always a passel of them rattling around in the vehicle. --R On 8/10/2010 8:14 PM, toms cat1 wrote: Just thought I would share the following, a little off-topic, related to what I do in real life, but it is inextricably connected to my life as a 'car guy'. If you will indulge me, it is a great story. For mercedes content... we have had about half a dozen Mercedes donated to the program, including the 230 Euro (gas) that was recently commented on here. And a 1984 300D bought from us by a guy in upstate NY whose brother owns a MacDonald's franchise, and was planning on doing the conversion and then having free fuel for the rest of his life! True story! :) Also a 1964 Tbird, and hundreds more (3-400 donated cars total so far). It is loads of fun for the kids in the program. And I don't half mind it either, btw. :) http://www.theday.com/article/20100809/NWS01/308099931/1070 http://www.theday.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2010308109930 These stories appeared on consecutive days in the local paper the first was a banner headline at the top of Page 1. Tom Schuch SE Connecticut 1975 W115 300D and all those BMWs ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 rear suspension rebuild - who's BTDT?
I'll send it directly (anyone else need it?) but I'm not sure it will all apply to you, as the hardware changed at some point, increasing the bolt size from M10 to M12 I believe. Maybe someone here is smart enough to know if the larger bolts will be fine as long as ALL the camber/torque/strut/etc arms are replaced along with bushings and sleeves? -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Larry T Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 4:06 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 rear suspension rebuild - who's BTDT? Hey Max - When you get that list, please share it, OK?? My '91 300D might need a similar rebuild one of these days Thx LarryT 91 300D In God We Trust -- From: Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 1:34 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] 124 rear suspension rebuild - who's BTDT? Dieselvolk, I'm putting together a Rusty-gram to get the rubber and hardware bits so that I can rebuild the rear suspension on my '95 E300. I'm planning to go whole hog: differential to sub frame mounts, sub frame to body mounts, and all the various bushings and torque arms and struts that hold the wheel carrier in position. I'm expecting at least a boat ride at this year's Rusty-Q, as I've probably already made two or three of his boat payments. Someone, I believe it was Dieselhead, recently shared their observations, and I remember that removing the mounts that hold sub frame to body was loads of fun and games. What tools/hardware should I gather in advance to help this procedure along? Can I rent the $$$ tools somewhere? Any other tidbits of wisdom will be appreciated. Still smoking, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD 328k miles '95 E300 275k miles (project) '73 Balboa 20 Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: nice story related to the car hobby
Thanks Tom - great story. Have you thought about hiring a retired mechanic to teach some of the ASE basics? I used to work in a correctional facility, part of the education we offered was opportunity to 'wrench' under tutelage and then take ASE exams (prisoner's paid the exam fees). More than a few prisoners took advantage and immediately found work upon release. I was up in New Haven several months ago for work, I regret that I didn't know you were in the area or I would have tried to connect. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of toms cat1 Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 8:15 PM To: mercedes diesel Subject: [MBZ] OT: nice story related to the car hobby Just thought I would share the following, a little off-topic, related to what I do in real life, but it is inextricably connected to my life as a 'car guy'. If you will indulge me, it is a great story. For mercedes content... we have had about half a dozen Mercedes donated to the program, including the 230 Euro (gas) that was recently commented on here. And a 1984 300D bought from us by a guy in upstate NY whose brother owns a MacDonald's franchise, and was planning on doing the conversion and then having free fuel for the rest of his life! True story! :) Also a 1964 Tbird, and hundreds more (3-400 donated cars total so far). It is loads of fun for the kids in the program. And I don't half mind it either, btw. :) http://www.theday.com/article/20100809/NWS01/308099931/1070 http://www.theday.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2010308109930 These stories appeared on consecutive days in the local paper the first was a banner headline at the top of Page 1. Tom Schuch SE Connecticut 1975 W115 300D and all those BMWs ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 rear suspension rebuild - who's BTDT?
This is not going to be a cheap endeavor - 124 suspension parts are WAY more expensive than 123 parts... -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of OK Don Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 9:07 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 rear suspension rebuild - who's BTDT? Sounds like you're doing it right. I replaced most of the rear links on the '90 124. I could not get the tie rods (with the ball joints) off at the chassis end, and they didn't look that bad. I also replaced the tie rods and lower ball joints in the front end, and got it aligned. It's a lot better now, but I think I need to go ahed and replace the mounts, as you plan to do next. On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 12:34 PM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote: Dieselvolk, I'm putting together a Rusty-gram to get the rubber and hardware bits so that I can rebuild the rear suspension on my '95 E300. I'm planning to go whole hog: differential to sub frame mounts, sub frame to body mounts, and all the various bushings and torque arms and struts that hold the wheel carrier in position. I'm expecting at least a boat ride at this year's Rusty-Q, as I've probably already made two or three of his boat payments. Someone, I believe it was Dieselhead, recently shared their observations, and I remember that removing the mounts that hold sub frame to body was loads of fun and games. What tools/hardware should I gather in advance to help this procedure along? Can I rent the $$$ tools somewhere? Any other tidbits of wisdom will be appreciated. Still smoking, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD 328k miles '95 E300 275k miles (project) '73 Balboa 20 Charleston SC -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1991 300E 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth grand Voyager 1970 Larsen Regetta (M16 class scow) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 rear suspension rebuild - who's BTDT?
Let me know if you find a source to rent the tools for the sub frame mounts, or if you buy them - I'll be the first to rent them from you! -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rolf Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 9:49 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 rear suspension rebuild - who's BTDT? I too am going through this same debacle, although I am converting to a sportline suspension. Rusty says he has a list of all the parts needed for this. My 87 300D needs new everything all around so I might as well throw in the extra few hundred for springs. -Rolf On 8/10/2010 1:34 PM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote: Dieselvolk, I'm putting together a Rusty-gram to get the rubber and hardware bits so that I can rebuild the rear suspension on my '95 E300. I'm planning to go whole hog: differential to sub frame mounts, sub frame to body mounts, and all the various bushings and torque arms and struts that hold the wheel carrier in position. I'm expecting at least a boat ride at this year's Rusty-Q, as I've probably already made two or three of his boat payments. Someone, I believe it was Dieselhead, recently shared their observations, and I remember that removing the mounts that hold sub frame to body was loads of fun and games. What tools/hardware should I gather in advance to help this procedure along? Can I rent the $$$ tools somewhere? Any other tidbits of wisdom will be appreciated. Still smoking, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD 328k miles '95 E300 275k miles (project) '73 Balboa 20 Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 rear suspension rebuild - who's BTDT?
Brian, Thanks for the caution re: torque bolts while car is level. How do you recommend attacking the sub frame mounts? -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Brian Toscano Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 10:56 PM To: Mercedes Okie Benz Mailing List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 rear suspension rebuild - who's BTDT? There are several special tools that aid in subframe mount and lower wheel carrier joint replacement. However, they are not necessary. A spring compressor is not necessary for rear springs. The single most important thing to remember is to tighten all the bolts with the weight of the car on the wheels! Don't tighten all the links with the springs in and the car on jack stands! -Original Message- From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 17:51:05 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 rear suspension rebuild - who's BTDT? Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote: Dieselvolk, I'm putting together a Rusty-gram to get the rubber and hardware bits so that I can rebuild the rear suspension on my '95 E300. I'm planning to go whole hog: differential to sub frame mounts, sub frame to body mounts, and all the various bushings and torque arms and struts that hold the wheel carrier in position. I'm expecting at least a boat ride at this year's Rusty-Q, as I've probably already made two or three of his boat payments. Someone, I believe it was Dieselhead, recently shared their observations, and I remember that removing the mounts that hold sub frame to body was loads of fun and games. What tools/hardware should I gather in advance to help this procedure along? A small ball of C-4 and some det cord will have it out in a jiffy. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 201 PB Array
My Indy says a PB array is $850, Rusty says $250. I say I've got 3 of them maybe I should see if they are resolderable. They are. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: SL
Don't know when this style was released but it's my favorite The SL that looks like an 80's Mustang? 1990. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Euro 201 5-speed diesel
From the underhood picture, looks to be a normally-aspirated OM602. What's with the humongous air filter housing? Looks just like mine. Normal. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) York AC Compressors
So, all this talk of AC in 115's has me thinking about repairing mine. Beware of crud clogging up the screen in the inlet of the expansion valve. Pretty easy to get to in my 114, and easy to clean out. Your 70# pressures says broken reed valve to me, assuming it spins and hasn't thrown a couple of rods... -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 rear suspension rebuild - who's BTDT?
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 6:49 PM, Rolf r...@winmutt.com wrote: I too am going through this same debacle, although I am converting to a sportline suspension. Rusty says he has a list of all the parts needed for this. My 87 300D needs new everything all around so I might as well throw in the extra few hundred for springs. I recommend (following Dave Meimann, 124 performance guru extraordinaire) that you put on 500E sway bars, since they're fatter than even the Sportline ones. I have some Eibach lowering springs for 124s (new, unused, in the box, NLA) that I might sell for the right price. I was planning to put them on my 300E, but that car has little enough tire clearance as it is since I put on 500E wheels and rolled fenders. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Dash warning lights
I think I know the answer to my first question. I had a warning light come on my car (1995 E320). It has only come on once or twice. It is a circle with little dashes all around it. I think that is the brake pad warning light. Is that right? Its for the front brakes, right? If it is the brake pads, is that an easy job? I know its easy for a lot of you, but what about a beginner? I have only changed brake pads twice and they were pretty simple (on a Ford Crown Vic) once I figured out how to get the caliper off. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Euro 201 5-speed diesel
On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 6:30 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: From the underhood picture, looks to be a normally-aspirated OM602. What's with the humongous air filter housing? Looks just like mine. Normal. I don't doubt that it's normal, I've just never seen an air filter the size of the cylinder head before! Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Dash warning lights
You got it, and yes it is a pretty easy job. Caliper does not need to come off, you just remove one bolt and it flips open. New bolt with lock-tite coating should come in box with new pads. I HIGHLY recommend the Akebono ceramic pads, but you may need to replace the rotors at same time to avoid a noisy outcome. I know of at least one fellow who didn't put in new rotors and had no noise problems, so you might get lucky if you keep your old rotors (assuming they're still in spec. for thickness). -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Donald Snook Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 9:31 AM To: 'Mercedes@okiebenz.com' Subject: [MBZ] Dash warning lights I think I know the answer to my first question. I had a warning light come on my car (1995 E320). It has only come on once or twice. It is a circle with little dashes all around it. I think that is the brake pad warning light. Is that right? Its for the front brakes, right? If it is the brake pads, is that an easy job? I know its easy for a lot of you, but what about a beginner? I have only changed brake pads twice and they were pretty simple (on a Ford Crown Vic) once I figured out how to get the caliper off. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Dash warning lights
On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 6:31 AM, Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com wrote: If it is the brake pads, is that an easy job? I know its easy for a lot of you, but what about a beginner? I have only changed brake pads twice and they were pretty simple (on a Ford Crown Vic) once I figured out how to get the caliper off. Should be as simple as, or simpler than, the Ford. Siphon some brake fluid out of the master cylinder, lower bolt comes out, caliper swing up, old pads slide out, compress caliper piston, new pads slide in, caliper swings back down, top off brake fluid if necessary. Took me an hour the first time I did it and I am by no means the amateur wrench that some here are. Now I can do it in fifteen minutes. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Dash warning lights
It might be fluid too, but probably pads. If your car is anything like the 123 and 126, jacking up the corner and taking off the wheel takes more effort than changing the pads. On my cars, you punch out the two pins holding the pads in (small hammer on a punch or nail to push them out), remove the little spring clips, you will probably need to do some prying to push the piston out a bit, but then the pads will come right out and the new ones should drop right in (you might have to do some pressing on the piston again as the new pads will be thicker, and maybe bevel the edge that goes in first just a bit). Quite simple. You will need to replace the sensors, they just go into a hole in the pads and connect to the connector. You don't need to remove calipers at all (at least on my cars). Check the rotor to see if it is worn too much (big ridge outside the pads). --R On 8/11/2010 9:31 AM, Donald Snook wrote: I think I know the answer to my first question. I had a warning light come on my car (1995 E320). It has only come on once or twice. It is a circle with little dashes all around it. I think that is the brake pad warning light. Is that right? Its for the front brakes, right? If it is the brake pads, is that an easy job? I know its easy for a lot of you, but what about a beginner? I have only changed brake pads twice and they were pretty simple (on a Ford Crown Vic) once I figured out how to get the caliper off. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 rear suspension rebuild - who's BTDT?
I'd appreciate a copy of your parts list too. Thanks, Ed 300E On 11 August 2010 07:41, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote: I'll send it directly (anyone else need it?) but I'm not sure it will all apply to you, as the hardware changed at some point, increasing the bolt size from M10 to M12 I believe. Maybe someone here is smart enough to know if the larger bolts will be fine as long as ALL the camber/torque/strut/etc arms are replaced along with bushings and sleeves? -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Larry T Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 4:06 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 rear suspension rebuild - who's BTDT? Hey Max - When you get that list, please share it, OK?? My '91 300D might need a similar rebuild one of these days Thx LarryT 91 300D In God We Trust -- From: Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 1:34 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] 124 rear suspension rebuild - who's BTDT? Dieselvolk, I'm putting together a Rusty-gram to get the rubber and hardware bits so that I can rebuild the rear suspension on my '95 E300. I'm planning to go whole hog: differential to sub frame mounts, sub frame to body mounts, and all the various bushings and torque arms and struts that hold the wheel carrier in position. I'm expecting at least a boat ride at this year's Rusty-Q, as I've probably already made two or three of his boat payments. Someone, I believe it was Dieselhead, recently shared their observations, and I remember that removing the mounts that hold sub frame to body was loads of fun and games. What tools/hardware should I gather in advance to help this procedure along? Can I rent the $$$ tools somewhere? Any other tidbits of wisdom will be appreciated. Still smoking, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD 328k miles '95 E300 275k miles (project) '73 Balboa 20 Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 rear suspension rebuild - who's BTDT?
I used a special tools. Definitely get the Mercedes sliding fluid or spray them with silicon to aid installation. If you do the tie rods, mark the cam bolts to the frame with a chisel or sharpie so you can get them close. Be ready for an alignment when you are done. I removed the entire subframe from the car when I did mine. Its easier than you think. A tranny jack under the differential is helpful. -Original Message- From: Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 08:09:46 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 rear suspension rebuild - who's BTDT? Brian, Thanks for the caution re: torque bolts while car is level. How do you recommend attacking the sub frame mounts? -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Brian Toscano Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 10:56 PM To: Mercedes Okie Benz Mailing List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 rear suspension rebuild - who's BTDT? There are several special tools that aid in subframe mount and lower wheel carrier joint replacement. However, they are not necessary. A spring compressor is not necessary for rear springs. The single most important thing to remember is to tighten all the bolts with the weight of the car on the wheels! Don't tighten all the links with the springs in and the car on jack stands! -Original Message- From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 17:51:05 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 rear suspension rebuild - who's BTDT? Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote: Dieselvolk, I'm putting together a Rusty-gram to get the rubber and hardware bits so that I can rebuild the rear suspension on my '95 E300. I'm planning to go whole hog: differential to sub frame mounts, sub frame to body mounts, and all the various bushings and torque arms and struts that hold the wheel carrier in position. I'm expecting at least a boat ride at this year's Rusty-Q, as I've probably already made two or three of his boat payments. Someone, I believe it was Dieselhead, recently shared their observations, and I remember that removing the mounts that hold sub frame to body was loads of fun and games. What tools/hardware should I gather in advance to help this procedure along? A small ball of C-4 and some det cord will have it out in a jiffy. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Meet the new boss, same as the old boss
You missed a bit, I need to PUSH the car into place. Theres no space for another car behind it... -Curt Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 21:17:09 -0400 From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Meet the new boss, same as the old boss Message-ID: 4c61fa15.4080...@voyager.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Curt Raymond wrote: I need to figure out a way to push Hammie up where Dory is once that car is gone, Most Mbz have two hooks/eyes front and rear. Got a Benz that moves under its own power? http://www.harborfreight.com/2-inch-x-20-ft-heavy-duty-tow-strap-36612.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Meet the new boss, same as the old boss
You're right, I could have 6 cars but I actually have 5 when you include the Ranger. -Curt Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 21:44:24 -0500 From: Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Meet the new boss, same as the old boss Message-ID: 20100810214424.3e599fd0.fmi...@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Curt Raymond wrote: ...pretty much ready to get hauled away... Hauled away!! It looks to me like you could have at least 6 cars parked there. Just thing of all the advantages of having your own salvage yard! :) But then your are in the part of the country where commercial salvage yards actually have Mercedes. -- Philip, who knows there is no yard for at least 200 miles that often has 123 parts. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wal Mart Chevron 15w-40
Thats is a good price, I was paying that for the Car Quest brand 15w40 I was using in Hammie. -Curt Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 03:09:12 + From: Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Okie Benz Mailing List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Wal Mart Chevron 15w-40 Message-ID: 665811166-1281496220-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-20317785...@bda2958.bisx.prod.on.blackberry Content-Type: text/plain I noticed the local Wal Mart has gallon jugs of Chevron Delo 15w-40 for $8.50. The best price I've seen in a while for diesel oil. Regards, Brian ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: nice story related to the car hobby
Hi Max, Thank you. We are a non-profit, and not presently in a position to hire anyone for the voc ed piece. I would love to do that, but it is just not in our funding now. Maybe down the road a bit. So at this point we are seeking volunteer mentors, and we have gotten several responses, including a guy who builds and races cars. (An AC Cobra, and a '65 Mustang, among others.) We are also not far from the US Navy Sub Base, and we are hoping to connect with some folks there. We have had great experiences with Navy servicemen over the years. We also have to be careful how we implement programming so as to not run afoul of any DMV regulations regarding auto repair, sales, etc. As my son always reminds me... we are an automotive society... if you can teach a kid to work on a car, he will never starve. It is a life skill, a valuable qualification for employment, and it is transportable (no pun intended) wherever you live. And just a great recreational hobby, if nothing else. Since not ALL of the kids in our program will be going to Harvard or Yale (we do have one who graduated from Annapolis, btw!), this kind of vocational training could be crucial to their ultimate success. Tom Schuch SE Connecticut 1975 W115 300D and all those BMWs Message: 1 Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 08:04:02 -0400 From: Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: nice story related to the car hobby Message-ID: 1370e90cffd2ac4b8cb65267ba10c4b80369d...@naeachrlez02v.nadsusea.nads.navy.mil Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Thanks Tom - great story. Have you thought about hiring a retired mechanic to teach some of the ASE basics? I used to work in a correctional facility, part of the education we offered was opportunity to 'wrench' under tutelage and then take ASE exams (prisoner's paid the exam fees). More than a few prisoners took advantage and immediately found work upon release. I was up in New Haven several months ago for work, I regret that I didn't know you were in the area or I would have tried to connect. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of toms cat1 Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 8:15 PM To: mercedes diesel Subject: [MBZ] OT: nice story related to the car hobby Just thought I would share the following, a little off-topic, related to what I do in real life, but it is inextricably connected to my life as a 'car guy'. If you will indulge me, it is a great story. For mercedes content... we have had about half a dozen Mercedes donated to the program, including the 230 Euro (gas) that was recently commented on here. And a 1984 300D bought from us by a guy in upstate NY whose brother owns a MacDonald's franchise, and was planning on doing the conversion and then having free fuel for the rest of his life! True story! :) Also a 1964 Tbird, and hundreds more (3-400 donated cars total so far). It is loads of fun for the kids in the program. And I don't half mind it either, btw. :) http://www.theday.com/article/20100809/NWS01/308099931/1070 http://www.theday.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2010308109930 These stories appeared on consecutive days in the local paper the first was a banner headline at the top of Page 1. Tom Schuch SE Connecticut 1975 W115 300D and all those BMWs ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: Wife rear-ended...
...by an 18-wheeler, in our Ford Escape. Kids + wife = okay, low-speed collision. However, back door is damaged; I assume the bumper is too. SWMBO doesn't really know what to look for; she said it still runs so the back end couldn't have been pushed in too far. Officer (Greensboro PD) estimated damage at $1000 and therefore did not file a report, but has a local report? Hopefully this doesn't turn into he-said-she-said, I expect a new back door will be expensive, having glanced through listings at car-part. Anyway, anything unusual about dealing with trucker insurance? Great West Casualty wrote the policy. I am hoping it as simple as drop FE at repair place, get rental, drive until FE repaired, return rental, pick up FE. Any tricks / things I need to know? This is not banned, for those of you who may have missed. Thanks, apologies to concerned for the non-Benz content! -Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) York AC Compressors
It spins and there is no knocking so I assume it is intact. I also assumed valves were an issue given it holds the charge but just does not compress it. What effect would the crud in the screen have? I assume it needs to be un-charged in order to clean it out? Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Jim Cathey Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 7:33 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) York AC Compressors So, all this talk of AC in 115's has me thinking about repairing mine. Beware of crud clogging up the screen in the inlet of the expansion valve. Pretty easy to get to in my 114, and easy to clean out. Your 70# pressures says broken reed valve to me, assuming it spins and hasn't thrown a couple of rods... -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Meet the new boss, same as the old boss
Curt Raymond wrote: You missed a bit, I need to PUSH the car into place. Theres no space for another car behind it... Hammie seized, right? Then bypassing the starter cutoff is out. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Wife rear-ended...
Go through your ins co, let them deal with it. They will subrogate to the trucker ins co. --R On 8/11/2010 11:25 AM, Tim C wrote: ...by an 18-wheeler, in our Ford Escape. Kids + wife = okay, low-speed collision. However, back door is damaged; I assume the bumper is too. SWMBO doesn't really know what to look for; she said it still runs so the back end couldn't have been pushed in too far. Officer (Greensboro PD) estimated damage at$1000 and therefore did not file a report, but has a local report? Hopefully this doesn't turn into he-said-she-said, I expect a new back door will be expensive, having glanced through listings at car-part. Anyway, anything unusual about dealing with trucker insurance? Great West Casualty wrote the policy. I am hoping it as simple as drop FE at repair place, get rental, drive until FE repaired, return rental, pick up FE. Any tricks / things I need to know? This is not banned, for those of you who may have missed. Thanks, apologies to concerned for the non-Benz content! -Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Meet the new boss, same as the old boss
You just need several friends to push. A case of beer and a pizza might do the trick. Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 8:14 AM To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Meet the new boss, same as the old boss You missed a bit, I need to PUSH the car into place. Theres no space for another car behind it... -Curt Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 21:17:09 -0400 From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Meet the new boss, same as the old boss Message-ID: 4c61fa15.4080...@voyager.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Curt Raymond wrote: I need to figure out a way to push Hammie up where Dory is once that car is gone, Most Mbz have two hooks/eyes front and rear. Got a Benz that moves under its own power? http://www.harborfreight.com/2-inch-x-20-ft-heavy-duty-tow-strap-36612.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Dash warning lights
Rich Thomas wrote: It might be fluid too, but probably pads. On the 123, the brake system light (excess pressure difference between front and rear circuit - read low fluid - or parking brake) is a different light than the brake pad warning. I would guess that the newer cars are the same way, especially because of the description of the warning light. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 rear suspension rebuild - who's BTDT?
How can I get use of those special tools? Rentals? -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Brian Toscano Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 10:13 AM To: Mercedes Okie Benz Mailing List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 rear suspension rebuild - who's BTDT? I used a special tools. Definitely get the Mercedes sliding fluid or spray them with silicon to aid installation. If you do the tie rods, mark the cam bolts to the frame with a chisel or sharpie so you can get them close. Be ready for an alignment when you are done. I removed the entire subframe from the car when I did mine. Its easier than you think. A tranny jack under the differential is helpful. -Original Message- From: Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 08:09:46 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 rear suspension rebuild - who's BTDT? Brian, Thanks for the caution re: torque bolts while car is level. How do you recommend attacking the sub frame mounts? -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Brian Toscano Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 10:56 PM To: Mercedes Okie Benz Mailing List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 rear suspension rebuild - who's BTDT? There are several special tools that aid in subframe mount and lower wheel carrier joint replacement. However, they are not necessary. A spring compressor is not necessary for rear springs. The single most important thing to remember is to tighten all the bolts with the weight of the car on the wheels! Don't tighten all the links with the springs in and the car on jack stands! -Original Message- From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 17:51:05 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 rear suspension rebuild - who's BTDT? Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote: Dieselvolk, I'm putting together a Rusty-gram to get the rubber and hardware bits so that I can rebuild the rear suspension on my '95 E300. I'm planning to go whole hog: differential to sub frame mounts, sub frame to body mounts, and all the various bushings and torque arms and struts that hold the wheel carrier in position. I'm expecting at least a boat ride at this year's Rusty-Q, as I've probably already made two or three of his boat payments. Someone, I believe it was Dieselhead, recently shared their observations, and I remember that removing the mounts that hold sub frame to body was loads of fun and games. What tools/hardware should I gather in advance to help this procedure along? A small ball of C-4 and some det cord will have it out in a jiffy. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Wife rear-ended...
Sister was hit by Coke truck. Carrier ignored claim, had to sue. Than, they settled fast -- Peter Arnold Windsor, CT - Original Message - From: Tim C bb...@crone.us To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 11:25:18 AM Subject: [MBZ] OT: Wife rear-ended... ...by an 18-wheeler, in our Ford Escape. Kids + wife = okay, low-speed collision. However, back door is damaged; I assume the bumper is too. SWMBO doesn't really know what to look for; she said it still runs so the back end couldn't have been pushed in too far. Officer (Greensboro PD) estimated damage at $1000 and therefore did not file a report, but has a local report? Hopefully this doesn't turn into he-said-she-said, I expect a new back door will be expensive, having glanced through listings at car-part. Anyway, anything unusual about dealing with trucker insurance? Great West Casualty wrote the policy. I am hoping it as simple as drop FE at repair place, get rental, drive until FE repaired, return rental, pick up FE. Any tricks / things I need to know? This is not banned, for those of you who may have missed. Thanks, apologies to concerned for the non-Benz content! -Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Wife rear-ended...
pm7...@comcast.net wrote: Sister was hit by Coke truck. Carrier ignored claim, had to sue. Than, they settled fast Sounds like profit maximizing behavior. Think of all the money they save from those who don't sue. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Meet the new boss, same as the old boss
Yup, drove for who knows how far with no oil... -Curt Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 12:15:25 -0400 From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Meet the new boss, same as the old boss Message-ID: 4c62cc9d.7060...@voyager.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Curt Raymond wrote: You missed a bit, I need to PUSH the car into place. Theres no space for another car behind it... Hammie seized, right? Then bypassing the starter cutoff is out. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Dash warning lights
When in doubt, read the manual! Yes - very easy to change, as described by the others. On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 8:31 AM, Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com wrote: I think I know the answer to my first question. I had a warning light come on my car (1995 E320). It has only come on once or twice. It is a circle with little dashes all around it. I think that is the brake pad warning light. Is that right? Its for the front brakes, right? If it is the brake pads, is that an easy job? I know its easy for a lot of you, but what about a beginner? I have only changed brake pads twice and they were pretty simple (on a Ford Crown Vic) once I figured out how to get the caliper off. Donald H. Snook -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1991 300E (for sale) 1990 300D 2.5T ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Dash warning lights
And I know a great place to buy the pads and sensors!!! Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld -Original Message- From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 16:01:20 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Dash warning lights When in doubt, read the manual! Yes - very easy to change, as described by the others. On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 8:31 AM, Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com wrote: I think I know the answer to my first question. I had a warning light come on my car (1995 E320). It has only come on once or twice. It is a circle with little dashes all around it. I think that is the brake pad warning light. Is that right? Its for the front brakes, right? If it is the brake pads, is that an easy job? I know its easy for a lot of you, but what about a beginner? I have only changed brake pads twice and they were pretty simple (on a Ford Crown Vic) once I figured out how to get the caliper off. Donald H. Snook -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1991 300E (for sale) 1990 300D 2.5T ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] ML320 status
I got some repair records with the car from the PO, who owned it for three years. She drove it 74,000 miles in those three years, and spent a little over $7,000 on repairs. Replaced items include: Radiator Fuel pump Expnsion tank Lateral acceleration sensor Locking system access module Battery Power steering pump Windshield Water pump Idler pulley Belt The AC was fine yesterday - it was blowing so cold that I had to turn it down - it was 102F outside, and the car had been sitting in the sun all day. Today, it barely cooled at all, and only when the car was moving. It ws like the compressor shut off when idling, and turned back on (most of the time) when moving - this was all driving in town, 40mph max. Might this be due to low R134a? -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1991 300E 1990 300D 2.5T ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ML320 status
You can get a recharge can with a gauge at the auto parts for not much ($15-20 if that much), it has pressure zones to show you where it is (and some numbers too). I would get that and put it on the low side with the MAX setting on the control to make the compressor run (watch to see if the clutch engages), rev it up a bit (like 1500-2000rpm) and see if it drops down too much, or starts sucking refrigerant. It might be something else, but that is the first thing I would check. On my truck, the compressor will not kick in when the ref is too low, or it will kick off and cycle until it sucks in enough ref to get it to where it engages and stays engaged pretty much constantly with the MAX settting and proper ref pressure. A real AC guy would probably say that is all FOS but it seems to work with just the can gauge. --R On 8/11/2010 6:26 PM, OK Don wrote: I got some repair records with the car from the PO, who owned it for three years. She drove it 74,000 miles in those three years, and spent a little over $7,000 on repairs. Replaced items include: Radiator Fuel pump Expnsion tank Lateral acceleration sensor Locking system access module Battery Power steering pump Windshield Water pump Idler pulley Belt The AC was fine yesterday - it was blowing so cold that I had to turn it down - it was 102F outside, and the car had been sitting in the sun all day. Today, it barely cooled at all, and only when the car was moving. It ws like the compressor shut off when idling, and turned back on (most of the time) when moving - this was all driving in town, 40mph max. Might this be due to low R134a? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ML320 status
The outside temp dropped to un der 95, so I went out to check out the AC. The compressor runs for 2 seconds, cycles off for 7 seconds, then back on for two, etc. The off cycle seems a little longer at higher RPMs ~2000, but the one cycle might be a bit shorter. The compressor never ran long enough to read the pressures. WTF ??? On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 6:51 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: You can get a recharge can with a gauge at the auto parts for not much ($15-20 if that much), it has pressure zones to show you where it is (and some numbers too). I would get that and put it on the low side with the MAX setting on the control to make the compressor run (watch to see if the clutch engages), rev it up a bit (like 1500-2000rpm) and see if it drops down too much, or starts sucking refrigerant. It might be something else, but that is the first thing I would check. On my truck, the compressor will not kick in when the ref is too low, or it will kick off and cycle until it sucks in enough ref to get it to where it engages and stays engaged pretty much constantly with the MAX settting and proper ref pressure. A real AC guy would probably say that is all FOS but it seems to work with just the can gauge. --R On 8/11/2010 6:26 PM, OK Don wrote: I got some repair records with the car from the PO, who owned it for three years. She drove it 74,000 miles in those three years, and spent a little over $7,000 on repairs. Replaced items include: Radiator Fuel pump Expnsion tank Lateral acceleration sensor Locking system access module Battery Power steering pump Windshield Water pump Idler pulley Belt The AC was fine yesterday - it was blowing so cold that I had to turn it down - it was 102F outside, and the car had been sitting in the sun all day. Today, it barely cooled at all, and only when the car was moving. It ws like the compressor shut off when idling, and turned back on (most of the time) when moving - this was all driving in town, 40mph max. Might this be due to low R134a? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1991 300E 1990 300D 2.5T ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ML320 status
OK Don wrote: The outside temp dropped to un der 95, so I went out to check out the AC. The compressor runs for 2 seconds, cycles off for 7 seconds, then back on for two, etc. The off cycle seems a little longer at higher RPMs ~2000, but the one cycle might be a bit shorter. The compressor never ran long enough to read the pressures. WTF ??? If you are very low on charge, the low pressure switch will cut out the compressor. If there's a high pressure switch, that can cycle the compressor if system is overcharged, has air in it, or if the expansion valve is clogged. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ML320 status
Mitch Haley wrote: If you are very low on charge, the low pressure switch will cut out the compressor. If there's a high pressure switch, that can cycle the compressor if system is overcharged, has air in it, or if the expansion valve is clogged. If it worked great yesterday, either you lost charge overnight, or perhaps the fan doesn't draw air through the condenser and the high pressure switch shuts it down when the condenser hits critical temp. Or the expansion valve suddenly became stuck or clogged? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ML320 status
Make sure you didn't set the controls strange and that you don't have the temp wheel set too high. However, unless you lost a temperature sensor, sounds like it's low on freon. If you have the gauge set on, the low side will drop any time the compressor is on, but what you need to watch is the high side. Less than about 50 psi shuts off the compressor. Less than about 150 psi on the high side you won't get much cooling at 95 F. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ML320 status
We didn't change the controls from yesterday. The low side did drop from the max on the low gauge to about 70 in the two seconds the compressor ran. I didn't connect the high side - so don't know what happened there. I'll do that tomorrow. How do you add freon if the compressor isn't running? Find a pressure or temp switch and open or short the wires, as needed? I found a note in one of the service tickets from the PO that stated that the expension valve would need to be replaced sometime in the future. That was in 2008 when she had freon added, and there was a charge for UV dye on the ticket. On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 9:03 PM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.netwrote: Make sure you didn't set the controls strange and that you don't have the temp wheel set too high. However, unless you lost a temperature sensor, sounds like it's low on freon. If you have the gauge set on, the low side will drop any time the compressor is on, but what you need to watch is the high side. Less than about 50 psi shuts off the compressor. Less than about 150 psi on the high side you won't get much cooling at 95 F. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1991 300E 1990 300D 2.5T ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ML320 status
My observation of the compressor sysling was after it had been sitting for four hours after the last drive - it was much cooler. The engine temp was around 90C putzing around town in the 102F heat - I didn;t think that was too bad, thoughI'd perferred that it was 85C. I think the engine would have been hotter if the fan wasn't pulling enough air through the condensor/radiator. As i noted in the reply to Peter's response, there is a note on a service ticket stating that the expansion valve will need to be replaced, back in 2008l. I don't know why they made that prediction. On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 8:46 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Mitch Haley wrote: If you are very low on charge, the low pressure switch will cut out the compressor. If there's a high pressure switch, that can cycle the compressor if system is overcharged, has air in it, or if the expansion valve is clogged. If it worked great yesterday, either you lost charge overnight, or perhaps the fan doesn't draw air through the condenser and the high pressure switch shuts it down when the condenser hits critical temp. Or the expansion valve suddenly became stuck or clogged? -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1991 300E 1990 300D 2.5T ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ML320 status
OK Don wrote: We didn't change the controls from yesterday. The low side did drop from the max on the low gauge to about 70 in the two seconds the compressor ran. I didn't connect the high side - so don't know what happened there. I'll do that tomorrow. If the compressor cuts out at 70 psi, it's not due to a properly functioning low pressure switch. Your problem is not lack of refrigerant. Gotta find out how high the other gauge goes. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ML320 status
Is that the AE-35 part? --R On 8/11/2010 10:29 PM, OK Don wrote: My observation of the compressor sysling was after it had been sitting for four hours after the last drive - it was much cooler. The engine temp was around 90C putzing around town in the 102F heat - I didn;t think that was too bad, thoughI'd perferred that it was 85C. I think the engine would have been hotter if the fan wasn't pulling enough air through the condensor/radiator. As i noted in the reply to Peter's response, there is a note on a service ticket stating that the expansion valve will need to be replaced, back in 2008l. I don't know why they made that prediction. On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 8:46 PM, Mitch Haleym...@voyager.net wrote: Mitch Haley wrote: If you are very low on charge, the low pressure switch will cut out the compressor. If there's a high pressure switch, that can cycle the compressor if system is overcharged, has air in it, or if the expansion valve is clogged. If it worked great yesterday, either you lost charge overnight, or perhaps the fan doesn't draw air through the condenser and the high pressure switch shuts it down when the condenser hits critical temp. Or the expansion valve suddenly became stuck or clogged? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ML320 status
If you have 70 psi with the compressor off, it has plenty of freon to cool at least decently. Look for a loose wire, a slipping drive belt (if you have two belts, there may not be a speed sensor), and try switching to max cold to see if it runs then. A bad evaporator temperature switch will shut the compressor off it it falsely senses that the evaporator is reaching 32F -- I'm not sure if shorted or open is the case here, depends on which type of thermistor is used. check the wiring for the evaporator temp sensor to make sure it's not partially unplugged or intermittantly shorted. You could also have a bad low pressure switch. It will be on the receiver/dryer, uplug the two tails and short them together. If the compressor then runs properly and you get cold air, it's the switch. Best to do this with the gauges installed, as it wont' take long with no charge to lock up the compressor -- no lubrucation! Also make sure your KLIMA relay is good (may be expensive if it's a combined relay instead of separate!) -- this is another place where you can get intermittant operation. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Meet the new boss, same as the old boss
On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 07:14:13 -0700 (PDT) Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: You missed a bit, I need to PUSH the car into place. Theres no space for another car behind it... You got a tree back there? How about a come-a-long and a length of chain? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ML320 status
What's an AE-35 part? I'm assuming it's this: http://www.buymbparts.biz/item.wws?sku=W0133-1603033itempk=21195mfr=Metrixweight=0.32 On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 9:40 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Is that the AE-35 part? --R On 8/11/2010 10:29 PM, OK Don wrote: My observation of the compressor sysling was after it had been sitting for four hours after the last drive - it was much cooler. The engine temp was around 90C putzing around town in the 102F heat - I didn;t think that was too bad, thoughI'd perferred that it was 85C. I think the engine would have been hotter if the fan wasn't pulling enough air through the condensor/radiator. As i noted in the reply to Peter's response, there is a note on a service ticket stating that the expansion valve will need to be replaced, back in 2008l. I don't know why they made that prediction. On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 8:46 PM, Mitch Haleym...@voyager.net wrote: Mitch Haley wrote: If you are very low on charge, the low pressure switch will cut out the compressor. If there's a high pressure switch, that can cycle the compressor if system is overcharged, has air in it, or if the expansion valve is clogged. If it worked great yesterday, either you lost charge overnight, or perhaps the fan doesn't draw air through the condenser and the high pressure switch shuts it down when the condenser hits critical temp. Or the expansion valve suddenly became stuck or clogged? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1991 300E 1990 300D 2.5T ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ML320 status
The single serpentine belt was replaced less than 100 miles ago, with the water pump and idler pulley, and doesn't appear to be slipping. It has been one max cooling today both on the drive and during the limited testing. Thanks - I have a nice list to go through tomorrow --- On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 9:47 PM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.netwrote: If you have 70 psi with the compressor off, it has plenty of freon to cool at least decently. Look for a loose wire, a slipping drive belt (if you have two belts, there may not be a speed sensor), and try switching to max cold to see if it runs then. A bad evaporator temperature switch will shut the compressor off it it falsely senses that the evaporator is reaching 32F -- I'm not sure if shorted or open is the case here, depends on which type of thermistor is used. check the wiring for the evaporator temp sensor to make sure it's not partially unplugged or intermittantly shorted. You could also have a bad low pressure switch. It will be on the receiver/dryer, uplug the two tails and short them together. If the compressor then runs properly and you get cold air, it's the switch. Best to do this with the gauges installed, as it wont' take long with no charge to lock up the compressor -- no lubrucation! Also make sure your KLIMA relay is good (may be expensive if it's a combined relay instead of separate!) -- this is another place where you can get intermittant operation. Peter OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1991 300E 1990 300D 2.5T ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ML320 status
OK Don okd...@gmail.com writes: I found a note in one of the service tickets from the PO that stated that the expension valve would need to be replaced sometime in the future. That was in 2008 when she had freon added, and there was a charge for UV dye on the ticket. If UV dye was added, it means that the shop suspected a leak. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] FIFI returns to flight
http://www.avweb.com/avwebflash/news/fifi_b29_superfortress_flight_203088-1.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mazda 626 diesel
If it is the same as the Ford Diesel, it is a knockoff of the VW diesel. It is pretty robust. Ours never had a hickup, other than the recall for the head gasket. I replaced the gasket on ours at 110k after it started to leak coolant. The head and cylinders were perfect at that time. The body rotted away, but the engine would go 500k I am sure. Like a VW, you have to change the timing belt every 60 K or less. and the ford has 2 timing belts. Regular on the front, and a small one from the rear of the camshaft to drive the backwards IP. Same engine as in an Escort or Tempo? I've never seen one for sale but I have seen one on the road. -Curt Date: Sun, 8 Aug 2010 09:59:43 -0700 From: Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Mazda 626 diesel Message-ID: aanlktikj96c+rp0n5zndgckfrbdgmt3wdbz6v=ntk...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I don't think I've ever seen one of these for sale before: http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/cto/1886477686.html Wikipedia says 66 hp, which ought to be quite bearable with a 5-speed since the car probably only weighs 3000 lb at the most. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mazda 626 diesel
Our Escort did 50 MPG regularly. 56 sounds high to me. Tempo was heavier than the Escort. It cost a lot less than a Pious and was more eco-friendly. Rolf wrote: That car looks pretty cared for given its lack of prestige. Still couldnt talk me into it. Would 36mpg city and 42mpg hwy do it? For comparison, my 1989 5sp Horizon was 24/34. It looks like the 626 was FWD from about 1983, so the 2.0L FWD 626 is probably the same drivetrain as the diesel Tempo/Escort. I think a Tempo gets about 56mpg at a steady 55mph. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mazda 626 diesel
But how can it be eco friendly! It runs on oil!! Reminds me of the VW clean burn 3 cyl diesels in europe. 50 somthing mpg, amazing power, but they fail the kalifornicationa sniffer test at idle by some super small amount, and thus are not importable in the us. The emissions systems kept the cruft at about the same level for most of the usefull engine speed/load range as well. Hmm. Lets see. It gets roughly twice the mileage of the same car in gas. It fails by a super small ammount. It stands to reason that it won't be idled for 12 hours a day either. Should factor the mpg rating into the sniffer test thresholds IMHO... Your guess is as good as mine. Walt On Aug 12, 2010 12:36 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Our Escort did 50 MPG regularly. 56 sounds high to me. Tempo was heavier than the Escort. It cost a lot less than a Pious and was more eco-friendly. Rolf wrote: That car looks pretty cared for given its lack of prestige. Still couldnt talk... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 rear suspension rebuild - who's BTDT?
The secret of making the process of changing the links easier, and especially yhe tie rod, is to drop the rear subframe on one side, change the subframe mounts. It is way easy compared to a 123. While the subframe is down, replace all the links and tierod. To change the diff mounts, the book talks about another special puller. I don't know if you need it or not. I never changed them. When you are changing the diff mounts, you may want to drop out the exhaust and then drop the whole subframe. Then you can install the whole subframe after everything is replaced/refurbished. On the 123, I dropped out the subframe. On the 124, I didn't. IMHO, replacing 124 links w/o replacing the subframe mounts is a waste of time, unless you have evidence of the subframe mounts being only a year or two old. no special tools needed, except for the lower bushing in the wheel carrier. I took mine off and took them to a tire/alignment shop, along with the new bushings from Rusty. It cost me a few bucks, but I didn't need any special tools. I had tried sockets/bolt/washers, but got nowhere. Don't bother replacing links unless you also replace the bushing in the wheel carrier. It usually wears out first. It makes a big difference in the camber. all the new links are 201 numbers and use smaller bolts. You have to have the bolt kits. even so, I had to salvage some bushings from the old links to get everything to fit up tight. If you tell Rusty that you need all the links, the bolt kits and the tie rods, you should be good. If you wait until I work on a 124, the next month Rusty will put the whole works kits on sale for 124s. Sounds like you're doing it right. I replaced most of the rear links on the '90 124. I could not get the tie rods (with the ball joints) off at the chassis end, and they didn't look that bad. I also replaced the tie rods and lower ball joints in the front end, and got it aligned. It's a lot better now, but I think I need to go ahed and replace the mounts, as you plan to do next. On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 12:34 PM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote: Dieselvolk, I'm putting together a Rusty-gram to get the rubber and hardware bits so that I can rebuild the rear suspension on my '95 E300. I'm planning to go whole hog: differential to sub frame mounts, sub frame to body mounts, and all the various bushings and torque arms and struts that hold the wheel carrier in position. I'm expecting at least a boat ride at this year's Rusty-Q, as I've probably already made two or three of his boat payments. Someone, I believe it was Dieselhead, recently shared their observations, and I remember that removing the mounts that hold sub frame to body was loads of fun and games. What tools/hardware should I gather in advance to help this procedure along? Can I rent the $$$ tools somewhere? Any other tidbits of wisdom will be appreciated. Still smoking, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD 328k miles '95 E300 275k miles (project) '73 Balboa 20 Charleston SC -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1991 300E 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth grand Voyager 1970 Larsen Regetta (M16 class scow) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
