Re: [MBZ] New motor mounts bad?
They could be bad. Rubber deteriorates with age, regardless of use. If the were on the shelve for 20 years? I bought a set of brand new fork gaiters for my '72 Triumph. They didn't survive installation. On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 9:47 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: When I did all the engine work to my 92 300SD I replaced the motor mounts. They never did seem exactly smooth but every time I drive the thing its worse and worse. Today I drove it after finding both sets of keys that have been lost for a couple of months (one was in the drawer where they were supposed to be, the other was actually laying in the back seat of the car) and the thing just vibrates like crazy at idle like the mounts are completely colapsed. WTF? I have about 350 miles on these mounts, anybody ever seen bad mounts straight out of the box? Should I make Rusty send me new ones? -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 99 E430, 99 E320. 97 E300, 95 E300, 93 300D, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 90 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D http://www.okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Hans Neureiter, Katy, TX '82 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] New motor mounts bad?
Did you check the damper on the IP? On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 9:47 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: When I did all the engine work to my 92 300SD I replaced the motor mounts. They never did seem exactly smooth but every time I drive the thing its worse and worse. Today I drove it after finding both sets of keys that have been lost for a couple of months (one was in the drawer where they were supposed to be, the other was actually laying in the back seat of the car) and the thing just vibrates like crazy at idle like the mounts are completely colapsed. WTF? I have about 350 miles on these mounts, anybody ever seen bad mounts straight out of the box? Should I make Rusty send me new ones? -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 99 E430, 99 E320. 97 E300, 95 E300, 93 300D, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 90 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D http://www.okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Hans Neureiter, Katy, TX '82 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] New motor mounts bad?
Here is my extreme view on this topic: This is exactly why you shouldn't buy rubber parts (including suspension) from anywhere but the dealer. As hard as guys like Rusty may try, aftermarket parts are turning to crap quickly. OE quality, etc, is all BS. Unless the part has a three pointed star stamped in it, it can't be trusted. I buy enough parts that I have two dealers flighting for my business with excellent pricing. With the amount you buy, you should be able to negotiate something too. Jaime On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 10:47 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: When I did all the engine work to my 92 300SD I replaced the motor mounts. They never did seem exactly smooth but every time I drive the thing its worse and worse. Today I drove it after finding both sets of keys that have been lost for a couple of months (one was in the drawer where they were supposed to be, the other was actually laying in the back seat of the car) and the thing just vibrates like crazy at idle like the mounts are completely colapsed. WTF? I have about 350 miles on these mounts, anybody ever seen bad mounts straight out of the box? Should I make Rusty send me new ones? -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 99 E430, 99 E320. 97 E300, 95 E300, 93 300D, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 90 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D http://www.okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Vacuum Pressure Converter for AT - what's it good for?
A friend of mine made a hydrogen turbine engine out of a turbocharger. It was quite impressive when it was running. How is it that a turbo would use heat energy to stuff more air in? Seems it is transfering kinetic energy from the exhaust to the intake via the shaft between the two compressor sections to me. A turbocharger is not a heat engine. It is indeed a heat engine. You can rig up a combustion chamber and make a simple jet engine out of them. A turbocharger is a turbine driven compressor. While there is a kinetic component, the majority of the power delivered to the compressor is from the expansion of the exhaust gasses in the turbine. Same principle as a jet engine, just a single stage rather than the more typical multiple stages (in practice, usually 8 stage compressor and triple stage turbine, but I'm way out of date on those things these days). This is the great advantage of a turbocharger -- all the energy is normally wasted out the tailpipe as heat, the turbo puts it to work compressing the inlet charge air. Note that a crankshaft driven blower is purely parasitic -- it uses output bp to drive the compressor, not free waste heat! That is not to say there are not advantages to it as well (like fixed ratio of input over atmospheric pressure, for instance -- constant boost rather than variable). Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] New motor mounts bad?
Many have talked about the effects on Rubber and Age - but if your MMs are the same as on my 91 300D they are not the typical rubber mount but more of a hydraulic damper with a fluid container inside the metal shell that the engine rides on. Any signs of leakage? LarryT 91 300D -Original Message- From: Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2011 10:47 PM To: mercedes Mailing List Subject: [MBZ] New motor mounts bad? When I did all the engine work to my 92 300SD I replaced the motor mounts. They never did seem exactly smooth but every time I drive the thing its worse and worse. Today I drove it after finding both sets of keys that have been lost for a couple of months (one was in the drawer where they were supposed to be, the other was actually laying in the back seat of the car) and the thing just vibrates like crazy at idle like the mounts are completely colapsed. WTF? I have about 350 miles on these mounts, anybody ever seen bad mounts straight out of the box? Should I make Rusty send me new ones? -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 99 E430, 99 E320. 97 E300, 95 E300, 93 300D, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 90 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Crush cars
Got any '85 300d's ? Rick Sent from my iPhone On Jul 16, 2011, at 5:53 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: Oh I got a bunch still on the car come buy some 123s Sent from my iPhone On Jul 16, 2011, at 5:49 PM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote: Dang it! :( Rick Sent from my iPhone On Jul 16, 2011, at 3:28 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: I crushed a bunch of them last weekend Sent from my iPhone On Jul 16, 2011, at 3:11 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net writes: I crushed 2 116's today and got $900 for them Do you have any non-rusty W123 fenders? Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] New motor mounts bad?
There is no damper on the IP. On 7/17/2011 6:57 AM, Hans Neureiter wrote: Did you check the damper on the IP? On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 9:47 PM, Kaleb C. Striplinka...@striplin.netwrote: When I did all the engine work to my 92 300SD I replaced the motor mounts. They never did seem exactly smooth but every time I drive the thing its worse and worse. Today I drove it after finding both sets of keys that have been lost for a couple of months (one was in the drawer where they were supposed to be, the other was actually laying in the back seat of the car) and the thing just vibrates like crazy at idle like the mounts are completely colapsed. WTF? I have about 350 miles on these mounts, anybody ever seen bad mounts straight out of the box? Should I make Rusty send me new ones? -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 99 E430, 99 E320. 97 E300, 95 E300, 93 300D, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 90 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D http://www.okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 99 E430, 99 E320. 97 E300, 95 E300, 93 300D, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 90 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] New motor mounts bad?
They are the same or very similar to the mounts on your 124. I am going to have to crawl up under there and look at them I suppose. I did discover I did not replace the tranny mount when I replaced the motor mounts so maybe that is it. On 7/17/2011 8:14 AM, LarryT wrote: Many have talked about the effects on Rubber and Age - but if your MMs are the same as on my 91 300D they are not the typical rubber mount but more of a hydraulic damper with a fluid container inside the metal shell that the engine rides on. Any signs of leakage? LarryT 91 300D -Original Message- From: Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2011 10:47 PM To: mercedes Mailing List Subject: [MBZ] New motor mounts bad? When I did all the engine work to my 92 300SD I replaced the motor mounts. They never did seem exactly smooth but every time I drive the thing its worse and worse. Today I drove it after finding both sets of keys that have been lost for a couple of months (one was in the drawer where they were supposed to be, the other was actually laying in the back seat of the car) and the thing just vibrates like crazy at idle like the mounts are completely colapsed. WTF? I have about 350 miles on these mounts, anybody ever seen bad mounts straight out of the box? Should I make Rusty send me new ones? -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 99 E430, 99 E320. 97 E300, 95 E300, 93 300D, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 90 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Crush cars
no but I have some 82 and 83's On 7/17/2011 8:44 AM, Rick Knoble wrote: Got any '85 300d's ? Rick Sent from my iPhone On Jul 16, 2011, at 5:53 PM, Kaleb C. Striplinka...@striplin.net wrote: Oh I got a bunch still on the car come buy some 123s Sent from my iPhone On Jul 16, 2011, at 5:49 PM, Rick Knoblerickkno...@hotmail.com wrote: Dang it! :( Rick Sent from my iPhone On Jul 16, 2011, at 3:28 PM, Kaleb C. Striplinka...@striplin.net wrote: I crushed a bunch of them last weekend Sent from my iPhone On Jul 16, 2011, at 3:11 PM, Allan Streibstr...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: Kaleb C. Striplinka...@striplin.net writes: I crushed 2 116's today and got $900 for them Do you have any non-rusty W123 fenders? Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1390 / Virus Database: 1516/3769 - Release Date: 07/16/11 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 99 E430, 99 E320. 97 E300, 95 E300, 93 300D, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 90 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Stop me before I buy a Biobuddy
Hi Andrew. When I was living on DC I used to go to a gas station new Mt Airy Maryland and buy B100 at the pump. I would fill up my tank and then another four five gallon yellow diesel fuel containers in my trunk. This would last me about three months. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 16, 2011, at 4:40 PM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: I have pretty much ruled out becoming a home distiller after reading all these excellent posts. The better choice would appear to be installing a system in the car to burn filtered WVO. On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 1:21 PM, ernest breakfield erne...@backyardengineering.org wrote: Andrew, will find much information and disinformation on the topic of BioD here and elsewhere. (for example, the horror stories you hear about BioD eating fuel lines; i've got over 70,000 miles on almost exclusively straight BioD on the same fuel lines that were in my '85 300D when i started using BioD over 7 years ago, and there still hasn't been any evidence of any need to change them. all you need to do if you're using quality fuel is watch them like you'd watch any other fuel lines from a previous decade, and change them out when they show signs of needing it.) as for availability of source oil, it's unlikely that anyone outside of your area will be able to tell you what the actual availability is in your area, and even then it'll vary from restaurant to restaurant. (generally, cleaner/less used WVO is better; sushi joints usually have cleaner and less overused oil than burger joints.) bottom line, if it's only cost effectiveness you're looking for you have to figure out if it's even worth it to you to go through the hassles of making BioD. even if the source oil is free and your time is worth nothing, how much would you need to use before the savings would pay for the equipment and the energy to run it? if you're only using ~10G/wk, it'd be over a year before you even paid for the equipment, and we're still not counting the cost of any of the chemicals. (i'm not even going to get into the byproduct waste disposal issue or the concerns about having some of those chemicals around, or the mess,... and am ignoring the fear-mongering about jackbooted thugs hired by renderers or our guvernment coming through your doors due to perceived tax and various regulatory issues. but if you check into it, you might find we can't even legally haul WVO without a renderers license and liability coverage!) if you're trying to use BioD for other reasons (like reducing petroleum dependency, environmental concerns, or just the joy of experimental hobbying,) your calculations of whether it's worth the fuss might be different. in that case, i'd probably encourage searching our your local B99 vendor and buying commercially produced stuff, and let someone else deal with all the issues. cheers! e On 15/Jul/11 10:59, andrew strasfogel wrote: We own three W123 turbodiesels so this is very tempting. Cost is about $1700 + $450 more for the dry washing feature. We have lots of restaurants that probably would be happy to get rid of their fryer grease; the main snag might be the cost and ease of obtaining NAOH (caustic soda). I also wonder how much lye and water is consumed per batch, and what the brew would do to our fuel lines., http://biobuddy.us.com/faq.**html http://biobuddy.us.com/faq.html __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 123 PS pump threads
I got the engines swapped in the 80 240D yesterday. I took the PS hose fittings off at the PS pump, to lessen the mess of fluid leakage and because they are easy to reach. When I went to hook up the high pressure hose (the back one) to the new pump, I can't get the threads to start. So i compared the threads on the hoses from the old engine and the new engine. They are the same. Next I tried to thread the loose hose into the pump on the old engine. Can't get it to start either. What is up with this? Has anyone else encountered this problem ever? I guess the next thing is to figure out the thread dia. 14mm x 1mm or 1.25 pitch? Tomorrow I can see if I can buy a thread tap to run in the hole, and maybe a die to run the hose thread into. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Vacuum Pressure Converter for AT - what's it good for?
Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com writes: A friend of mine made a hydrogen turbine engine out of a turbocharger. It was quite impressive when it was running. Did he do anything useful with it? Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] New motor mounts bad?
The new mounts I got from Rusty for the Snookmobile 300D are still fine after all these years. When I installed the factory reman crate engine in the '76 300D, I bought new mounts from the local indy who got them from the dealer in Kansas City. One of them collapsed on letting the engine down. I looked everywhere else for that rattle for two weeks before looking at the obviously bad mount. On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 9:47 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: When I did all the engine work to my 92 300SD I replaced the motor mounts. They never did seem exactly smooth but every time I drive the thing its worse and worse. Today I drove it after finding both sets of keys that have been lost for a couple of months (one was in the drawer where they were supposed to be, the other was actually laying in the back seat of the car) and the thing just vibrates like crazy at idle like the mounts are completely colapsed. WTF? I have about 350 miles on these mounts, anybody ever seen bad mounts straight out of the box? Should I make Rusty send me new ones? -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 123 PS pump threads
I find it easiest to start threads when the pump body is loose too. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Vacuum Pressure Converter for AT - what's it good for?
It was stage 1 For stage 2 he built a hydrogen turbine. I'm not sure if he ever got to stage 3. He also modified briggs engines to run on hydrogen and modified briggs engines with fuel injection and had them meeting CARB requirements for cars. He was out riding his mountain bike and died of a massive heart attack. Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com writes: A friend of mine made a hydrogen turbine engine out of a turbocharger. It was quite impressive when it was running. Did he do anything useful with it? Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 123 PS pump threads
I got more of the fluid out of the pump, and it looks like there is a part of a thread off the hose broken off inside the pump thread. SO I think it is best to get a tap and die and chase the threads. At least now I see a reason. Before i saw that it didn't made sense. I find it easiest to start threads when the pump body is loose too. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] New motor mounts bad?
I have had new MB Factory parts from the dealer fail immediately too. Not motor mounts, but other things. Even MB is not above and beyond gremlins, shoddy suppliers and human error The new mounts I got from Rusty for the Snookmobile 300D are still fine after all these years. When I installed the factory reman crate engine in the '76 300D, I bought new mounts from the local indy who got them from the dealer in Kansas City. One of them collapsed on letting the engine down. I looked everywhere else for that rattle for two weeks before looking at the obviously bad mount. On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 9:47 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: When I did all the engine work to my 92 300SD I replaced the motor mounts. They never did seem exactly smooth but every time I drive the thing its worse and worse. Today I drove it after finding both sets of keys that have been lost for a couple of months (one was in the drawer where they were supposed to be, the other was actually laying in the back seat of the car) and the thing just vibrates like crazy at idle like the mounts are completely colapsed. WTF? I have about 350 miles on these mounts, anybody ever seen bad mounts straight out of the box? Should I make Rusty send me new ones? -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] New motor mounts bad?
The tranny mount was my guess as well. That drove me nuts on my 79 300TD after the engine mounts were done. Greg -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2011 7:51 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] New motor mounts bad? They are the same or very similar to the mounts on your 124. I am going to have to crawl up under there and look at them I suppose. I did discover I did not replace the tranny mount when I replaced the motor mounts so maybe that is it. On 7/17/2011 8:14 AM, LarryT wrote: Many have talked about the effects on Rubber and Age - but if your MMs are the same as on my 91 300D they are not the typical rubber mount but more of a hydraulic damper with a fluid container inside the metal shell that the engine rides on. Any signs of leakage? LarryT 91 300D -Original Message- From: Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2011 10:47 PM To: mercedes Mailing List Subject: [MBZ] New motor mounts bad? When I did all the engine work to my 92 300SD I replaced the motor mounts. They never did seem exactly smooth but every time I drive the thing its worse and worse. Today I drove it after finding both sets of keys that have been lost for a couple of months (one was in the drawer where they were supposed to be, the other was actually laying in the back seat of the car) and the thing just vibrates like crazy at idle like the mounts are completely colapsed. WTF? I have about 350 miles on these mounts, anybody ever seen bad mounts straight out of the box? Should I make Rusty send me new ones? -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 99 E430, 99 E320. 97 E300, 95 E300, 93 300D, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 90 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] WVO 300TD and 300D Turbo
Folks It's interesting to listen to the WVO and biodiesel discussions. This would have been heresy a few years ago, but 4 buck diesel has softened you people's hearts! My PERSONAL EXPERIENCE is that i've been running a 300TD (1982) on WVO for about the last 5 years. The car is unmodified. In my experience, the initial problem was all the petro diesel crud in the tank. The WVO cleans that out. Removing and cleaning tanks is probably the best way to start. On a 300TD you can drain the tank and remove and clean the strainer easily at any time that you have low (a few gallons) of fuel in the tank. I do that probably every 6 months on the 300TD. On a 300D it's a little harder since the fuel supply line is in the center of the strainer, but it's still not too bad, just messier. At any rate, i run 100% WVO down to temps of about 42 F (which is a lot of the time down here in north Georgia). If it's colder, i blend with petro diesel. A 50/50 mix will start and run at temps of say, down to about 35F and colder than that i sometimes add 1 gal RUG (reg unl gas) to a full tank. I've not been stranded. In the colder months, it's not uncommon for me to have to change the clear prefilter on the fuel line, but i generally don't change the spin on fuel filter any more often than every year or year and a half. I've driven the 300TD this way for probably 85,000 miles. About 10k miles ago, the car wouldn't start without starting fluid even when the temps for 50F or more. All the glow plugs, etc were good. I finally rebuilt the injectors with new monark nozzles at a cost of only about $100 and some time. As to the cost benefit ratio, the 300D turbo car (an extremely clean, nice running 1984 that i bought for our 17 year old daughter) only cost $1650. Remember this is a rust free georgia car!! In 8 months she's probably driven it 5000 miles. at 4 gals per 100 miles that's 200 gals of diesel at $4x200=$800 if my math is right. The scrap value of the car is $450 more or less, now, so this is pretty cheap driving!! It's a problem getting enough WVO these days. We only have a couple of restaurants that supply us, but i'm not paying for it. I'm about to advertise with Craig that i'm willing to buy nice clean WVO for something like 50 cents or more per gal. We filter by pouring the oil thru 55 gallon barrel top filters that are maybe 10 or 20 micron. Then we settle for a week or two and drain off settled out water, fat, etc and then we pump it through a 5 micron bag filter inside a filter housing. It's pretty clean, but could always be cleaner. To add to the mid, i just bought a lovely 1992 isuzu NPR truck. This is a 14 foot box, cab over truck such as most furniture stores have. It has a 4 cylinder indirect injection engine with a Kiki (licensed by Bosch) pump. It seems Isuzu made and direct injection engine up till about 91 then changed the head and added prechambers making it indirect until about 98 and then went back to direct injection in 99, i think. Their newer trucks are all direct and the newest stuff is quite electronically controlled. I was lucky to get this clean truck for $2500 it's probably worth $5000 now since we fixed the AC and added 4 new tires (CL $200 for a like new set of 4 ...they are same 16 inch tires as F250 or something, so common). The next project is to build a 2 tank heated WVO system which i'll do as soon as i find a nice tank of say 20 gals for petro diesel. Feel free to email me directly or call me 1 pm to midnite or later 706 540-3285 if you want to chat about this. As for the time investment, i laugh every time i load eight 5 gal jugs in my car for a longish trip, realizing that they would cost twenty bucks EACH if they were stinky petro diesel!! My 2 cents worth your results may vary and if you choose to do what i do, you do it at your own risk! thanks, xx rick Rick Hawkins www.javaphoto.com www.javacycles.com LETTERPRESSES FOR SALE www.ricktheprinter.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] WVO 300TD and 300D Turbo
I agree that everyone is free to do what he wants with his own car. To me, diesel would need to be significantly more than $4/gal to make the work of collecting, filtering, and using WVO worth the time. Your comment of running WVO down to 42 degrees is interesting to me, years ago I worked at a McDonalds and their fryer oil was solid at room temperature. Allan Rick Hawkins Java macj...@aol.com writes: Folks It's interesting to listen to the WVO and biodiesel discussions. This would have been heresy a few years ago, but 4 buck diesel has softened you people's hearts! My PERSONAL EXPERIENCE is that i've been running a 300TD (1982) on WVO for about the last 5 years. The car is unmodified. In my experience, the initial problem was all the petro diesel crud in the tank. The WVO cleans that out. Removing and cleaning tanks is probably the best way to start. On a 300TD you can drain the tank and remove and clean the strainer easily at any time that you have low (a few gallons) of fuel in the tank. I do that probably every 6 months on the 300TD. On a 300D it's a little harder since the fuel supply line is in the center of the strainer, but it's still not too bad, just messier. At any rate, i run 100% WVO down to temps of about 42 F (which is a lot of the time down here in north Georgia). If it's colder, i blend with petro diesel. A 50/50 mix will start and run at temps of say, down to about 35F and colder than that i sometimes add 1 gal RUG (reg unl gas) to a full tank. I've not been stranded. In the colder months, it's not uncommon for me to have to change the clear prefilter on the fuel line, but i generally don't change the spin on fuel filter any more often than every year or year and a half. I've driven the 300TD this way for probably 85,000 miles. About 10k miles ago, the car wouldn't start without starting fluid even when the temps for 50F or more. All the glow plugs, etc were good. I finally rebuilt the injectors with new monark nozzles at a cost of only about $100 and some time. As to the cost benefit ratio, the 300D turbo car (an extremely clean, nice running 1984 that i bought for our 17 year old daughter) only cost $1650. Remember this is a rust free georgia car!! In 8 months she's probably driven it 5000 miles. at 4 gals per 100 miles that's 200 gals of diesel at $4x200=$800 if my math is right. The scrap value of the car is $450 more or less, now, so this is pretty cheap driving!! It's a problem getting enough WVO these days. We only have a couple of restaurants that supply us, but i'm not paying for it. I'm about to advertise with Craig that i'm willing to buy nice clean WVO for something like 50 cents or more per gal. We filter by pouring the oil thru 55 gallon barrel top filters that are maybe 10 or 20 micron. Then we settle for a week or two and drain off settled out water, fat, etc and then we pump it through a 5 micron bag filter inside a filter housing. It's pretty clean, but could always be cleaner. To add to the mid, i just bought a lovely 1992 isuzu NPR truck. This is a 14 foot box, cab over truck such as most furniture stores have. It has a 4 cylinder indirect injection engine with a Kiki (licensed by Bosch) pump. It seems Isuzu made and direct injection engine up till about 91 then changed the head and added prechambers making it indirect until about 98 and then went back to direct injection in 99, i think. Their newer trucks are all direct and the newest stuff is quite electronically controlled. I was lucky to get this clean truck for $2500 it's probably worth $5000 now since we fixed the AC and added 4 new tires (CL $200 for a like new set of 4 ...they are same 16 inch tires as F250 or something, so common). The next project is to build a 2 tank heated WVO system which i'll do as soon as i find a nice tank of say 20 gals for petro diesel. Feel free to email me directly or call me 1 pm to midnite or later 706 540-3285 if you want to chat about this. As for the time investment, i laugh every time i load eight 5 gal jugs in my car for a longish trip, realizing that they would cost twenty bucks EACH if they were stinky petro diesel!! My 2 cents worth your results may vary and if you choose to do what i do, you do it at your own risk! thanks, xx rick Rick Hawkins www.javaphoto.com www.javacycles.com LETTERPRESSES FOR SALE www.ricktheprinter.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
Re: [MBZ] Crush cars
Sotell us what you have left. Bob R On Jul 17, 2011 7:51 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: no but I have some 82 and 83's On 7/17/2011 8:44 AM, Rick Knoble wrote: Got any '85 300d's ? Rick Sent from my iPhone On Jul 16, 2011, at 5:53 PM, Kaleb C. Striplinka...@striplin.net wrote: Oh I got a bunch still on the car come buy some 123s Sent from my iPhone On Jul 16, 2011, at 5:49 PM, Rick Knoblerickkno...@hotmail.com wrote: Dang it! :( Rick Sent from my iPhone On Jul 16, 2011, at 3:28 PM, Kaleb C. Striplinka...@striplin.net wrote: I crushed a bunch of them last weekend Sent from my iPhone On Jul 16, 2011, at 3:11 PM, Allan Streibstr...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: Kaleb C. Striplinka...@striplin.net writes: I crushed 2 116's today and got $900 for them Do you have any non-rusty W123 fenders? Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1390 / Virus Database: 1516/3769 - Release Date: 07/16/11 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 99 E430, 99 E320. 97 E300, 95 E300, 93 300D, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 90 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Delvac sale at Oreally?
Did you ever try to start a 616 at 0F? With 15w40 conventional oil it ain't gonna happen, 10w40 maybe. M1 5w40 is no big issue... When I first got my '83 240D it leaked/consumed a little oil using M1 but nothing exciting. Then my brother in law gave me a gift card for an oil change which was conventional oil. After that it lost a quart every 1000 miles or so for the next 50,000 miles. I never did determine exactly where it was leaking from. Thats made me a little gun shy about switching back and forth between conventional and synthetic. Its irrational, my 240D was probably due to start leaking anyway... My current '78 240D is great, its leaking/consuming around a quart in 2,000 miles and improving with each oil change. M1 is cleaning/rejuvenating the seals (apparently) and making the leaks less. Oh and I suspect the snowmobiling in Georgia sucks. -Curt Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 18:08:42 + (UTC) From: roger...@comcast.net To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Delvac sale at Oreally? Message-ID: 867633617.716930.1310839722499.javamail.r...@sz0097a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Better for your car than what? M1? No. You've got to remember there are other places where it gets cold in the winter. Living in New England Mobil 1 is your best friend when it comes to cold weather starts, even 15w50 is... But a little of each in the freezer and see which one pours better, do you want to depend on the honey thick stuff to get to the bearings in a cold start? -Curt Curt, Sorry that anyone lives in that God Awful cold of the Northern climes. What did you do before Mobil 1? I guess that's why people used to ride horses as apparently no engine would survive in cold climates without Mobil 1 synthetic :-)) Gee, when I lived in the North, I used 10W40 from Valvoline and never had problems. Of course, I didn't take the head off my engine once a month to be sure there wasn't any wear. I know what you are saying about cold starts. So, move South like I did and you won't have that worry anymore. There's still room!!! Or at least until we get annexed by Mexico. Best Wishes, R oger Hale Monroe, Ga. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Stop me before I buy a Biobuddy
I'm not opposed to WVO conversions per-say, I'm opposed to poor WVO conversions. Unfortunately it seems like the bulk of them are poor conversions. A boat gas tank in the trunk is a poor conversion, its the hallmark of a poor conversion as a matter of fact. A good conversion pre-heats the oil with engine coolant and then final heats electrically at the injection lines so the oil is hot hot when it goes into the injectors which ensures proper atomization, anything else is junk. Poor atomization is the real problem, IP killing is a secondary issue. Honestly Andrew, you don't drive enough to even consider it. I use ~ 15 gallons a week in a car that gets half again better mileage (190D 2.2l) so we can safely assume I drive more than twice as much as you. (around 30k a year) With WVO you won't be able to run on WVO all that much because you won't be getting the oil hot with your pre-heat plus you need a purge cycle before shutdown... I've been down this same road spec-ing out the idea, if I had a really easy source of lots of oil I'd consider WVO but I'd plan on $1000 at LEAST for my conversion. Then theres still that sticky paying road tax thing... -Curt Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 22:50:27 -0400 From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Stop me before I buy a Biobuddy Message-ID: CAC35L=s4znX5nf-B3ntZ5OF=X6tN03-_6sNV7di=07fdbty...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I have seen a 1983 300D converted to a dual system run without any problems on WVO and regular diesel. If I did a conversion it would be to my other car, the 1983 300TD with 325K miles. But don't hold your breath... On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 10:32 PM, Walt Zarnoch zarnoch...@gmail.com wrote: In my neck of the woods, the only way to buy a 617 is to wait for 3 years till one comes into a yard, buy a craigslist crackvertised car to strip then crush, or have one shipped in and pay big $$$. I guess that skews my perspective, but the viscosity difference is a real issue. The difference in HP needed to turn the pump can cause the injection advance mechanism on the intermediate shaft (behind vac pump) to not advance at it's set rate as well. It will run, you can drive, but I cringe whenever I see it done. It's up to the person doing it to evaluate what the time filtering, processing, etc is worth to them. I personally will pay the cash for the pre-made Bio or petro, since my time is worth more to me than the money going into the tank. You can always make more money. You can never make more time. Walt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Tonight I'm a motorcycle mechanic
On Fri, 15 Jul 2011 18:55:02 -0700 (PDT) Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: My wife's motorcycle hasn't been out of the garage this year, the starter was acting poorly, it would disengage as it cranked, not good and it scared the crap out of her. If you've never seen one motorcycle starters are interesting, and this one especially because it's chain drive. Its got a non-reversing (my term, I don't know the proper one) Sprag or overrunning clutch. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sprag_clutch Anyway, not MB but quite satisfying. Contratulations! Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] WVO 300TD and 300D Turbo
Rick, did you have to modify your engine at all? On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 2:46 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: I agree that everyone is free to do what he wants with his own car. To me, diesel would need to be significantly more than $4/gal to make the work of collecting, filtering, and using WVO worth the time. Your comment of running WVO down to 42 degrees is interesting to me, years ago I worked at a McDonalds and their fryer oil was solid at room temperature. Allan Rick Hawkins Java macj...@aol.com writes: Folks It's interesting to listen to the WVO and biodiesel discussions. This would have been heresy a few years ago, but 4 buck diesel has softened you people's hearts! My PERSONAL EXPERIENCE is that i've been running a 300TD (1982) on WVO for about the last 5 years. The car is unmodified. In my experience, the initial problem was all the petro diesel crud in the tank. The WVO cleans that out. Removing and cleaning tanks is probably the best way to start. On a 300TD you can drain the tank and remove and clean the strainer easily at any time that you have low (a few gallons) of fuel in the tank. I do that probably every 6 months on the 300TD. On a 300D it's a little harder since the fuel supply line is in the center of the strainer, but it's still not too bad, just messier. At any rate, i run 100% WVO down to temps of about 42 F (which is a lot of the time down here in north Georgia). If it's colder, i blend with petro diesel. A 50/50 mix will start and run at temps of say, down to about 35F and colder than that i sometimes add 1 gal RUG (reg unl gas) to a full tank. I've not been stranded. In the colder months, it's not uncommon for me to have to change the clear prefilter on the fuel line, but i generally don't change the spin on fuel filter any more often than every year or year and a half. I've driven the 300TD this way for probably 85,000 miles. About 10k miles ago, the car wouldn't start without starting fluid even when the temps for 50F or more. All the glow plugs, etc were good. I finally rebuilt the injectors with new monark nozzles at a cost of only about $100 and some time. As to the cost benefit ratio, the 300D turbo car (an extremely clean, nice running 1984 that i bought for our 17 year old daughter) only cost $1650. Remember this is a rust free georgia car!! In 8 months she's probably driven it 5000 miles. at 4 gals per 100 miles that's 200 gals of diesel at $4x200=$800 if my math is right. The scrap value of the car is $450 more or less, now, so this is pretty cheap driving!! It's a problem getting enough WVO these days. We only have a couple of restaurants that supply us, but i'm not paying for it. I'm about to advertise with Craig that i'm willing to buy nice clean WVO for something like 50 cents or more per gal. We filter by pouring the oil thru 55 gallon barrel top filters that are maybe 10 or 20 micron. Then we settle for a week or two and drain off settled out water, fat, etc and then we pump it through a 5 micron bag filter inside a filter housing. It's pretty clean, but could always be cleaner. To add to the mid, i just bought a lovely 1992 isuzu NPR truck. This is a 14 foot box, cab over truck such as most furniture stores have. It has a 4 cylinder indirect injection engine with a Kiki (licensed by Bosch) pump. It seems Isuzu made and direct injection engine up till about 91 then changed the head and added prechambers making it indirect until about 98 and then went back to direct injection in 99, i think. Their newer trucks are all direct and the newest stuff is quite electronically controlled. I was lucky to get this clean truck for $2500 it's probably worth $5000 now since we fixed the AC and added 4 new tires (CL $200 for a like new set of 4 ...they are same 16 inch tires as F250 or something, so common). The next project is to build a 2 tank heated WVO system which i'll do as soon as i find a nice tank of say 20 gals for petro diesel. Feel free to email me directly or call me 1 pm to midnite or later 706 540-3285 if you want to chat about this. As for the time investment, i laugh every time i load eight 5 gal jugs in my car for a longish trip, realizing that they would cost twenty bucks EACH if they were stinky petro diesel!! My 2 cents worth your results may vary and if you choose to do what i do, you do it at your own risk! thanks, xx rick Rick Hawkins www.javaphoto.com www.javacycles.com LETTERPRESSES FOR SALE www.ricktheprinter.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- 1983 300D
Re: [MBZ] Crush cars
YES - I have a 1985 300D, minus a chassis and transmission! This could equally be described as a1985 300D turbodiesel engine. It's sitting in a shop in Silver Spring, MD waiting for a new foster (or maybe a permanent) home. I am not asking a lot of money for it either. Andrew On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 9:44 AM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote: Got any '85 300d's ? Rick Sent from my iPhone On Jul 16, 2011, at 5:53 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: Oh I got a bunch still on the car come buy some 123s Sent from my iPhone On Jul 16, 2011, at 5:49 PM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote: Dang it! :( Rick Sent from my iPhone On Jul 16, 2011, at 3:28 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: I crushed a bunch of them last weekend Sent from my iPhone On Jul 16, 2011, at 3:11 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net writes: I crushed 2 116's today and got $900 for them Do you have any non-rusty W123 fenders? Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Tonight I'm a motorcycle mechanic
Thanks. It worked out too, I ran it up to operating temp before I finished putting it together and couldn't find any leaks. Did it again after reassembly and couldn't find any leaks. Was cleaning up the work area when I realized that one of the fork seals must have COMPLETELY let go, oil had puddled on the tire. At first I thought it was brake fluid but after further inspection I don't think so since the caliper seems dry and still has good braking action. I had fork seals put in a couple years ago but I think they were probably aftermarket. I'm figuring I need 'em again, will source them from the Kawasaki dealer this time. Anybody ever done fork seals? Is it a hard job? -Curt Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 16:22:00 -0600 From: Craig diese...@pisquared.net To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Tonight I'm a motorcycle mechanic Message-ID: 20110717162200.1878eff2.diese...@pisquared.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 15 Jul 2011 18:55:02 -0700 (PDT) Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: My wife's motorcycle hasn't been out of the garage this year, the starter was acting poorly, it would disengage as it cranked, not good and it scared the crap out of her. If you've never seen one motorcycle starters are interesting, and this one especially because it's chain drive. Its got a non-reversing (my term, I don't know the proper one) Sprag or overrunning clutch. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sprag_clutch Anyway, not MB but quite satisfying. Contratulations! Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] WVO 300TD and 300D Turbo
Rick Hawkins Java wrote: About 10k miles ago, the car wouldn't start without starting fluid even when the temps for 50F or more. Wow! You do like to gamble!!! WVO, unheated - there seems to be enough data to suggest this isn't low-risk. Using ether in an pre-chamber engine is akin to Russian roulette! In summary, you seem to be saying Unheated WVO works fine. - but you also used ether to start the car. That implies that you see the WVO risk to be less than or equal to using starting fluid. _Way_ to risky for _my_ engines! -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] WVO 300TD and 300D Turbo
You don't have to modify your engine to run on veggie oil, I've done it twice, once in my '83 240D just to prove to myself that I could, and once in my '85 190D as an exhibition at a car show at work. Both times I dumped a couple gallons from the grocery store into the tank. With the 240D I could smell the oil (think overheated oil in a pan) with the 190D I could not. In both cases I thought the engine ran smoother and more quietly for awhile afterward. The worry comes from the increased viscosity of the veggie oil. This causes some potential problems, the lift pump and IP have to work harder to move the thicker oil and thus have added wear and the potential for a sticking IP. Then the increased viscosity oil doesn't atomize as well in the injectors and you get actual droplets of oil in the cylinders. Droplets in the cylinders pound holes in pistons ruining the engine. Not to doubt Rick but I'd love to have data about the compression of his engine from before and now. That would confirm or deny engine damage over his time period. WVO raises another issue in that its quality as a feedstock will vary greatly as the viscosity will vary. It can also have salt and acids from the food that has been cooked in it. At the very least you'd ought to test your engine oil and ensure that the WVO isn't effecting it adversely... -Curt Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 18:44:33 -0400 From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] WVO 300TD and 300D Turbo Message-ID: CAC35L=szPOt8j5_95aXqSZtbQjGXz2=5D=BcOAiysKu=wcc...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Rick, did you have to modify your engine at all? On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 2:46 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: I agree that everyone is free to do what he wants with his own car. To me, diesel would need to be significantly more than $4/gal to make the work of collecting, filtering, and using WVO worth the time. Your comment of running WVO down to 42 degrees is interesting to me, years ago I worked at a McDonalds and their fryer oil was solid at room temperature. Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Stop me before I buy a Biobuddy
here in the SF Bay area, running WVO was so popular for a while that there's an abundance of 616s and 617s in the local yards. AAMOF, you can't give away a non-running 617 now to some local junkyards unless you tow it to their front door and sign it over; that's how many of them were killed by people running WVO in them (with and without conversions). i'm of the opinion that all the heating customizations that Curt mentions are absolutely necessary, and that's not necessarily enough. $1000 for a conversion is probably toward the minimum, and that might not be enough. even still, i've seen vehicles that had the most proper conversions and still had problems, and they all seem to have the same thing in common; they were used for short commutes. those short commutes were too short to get everything hot enough, and they didn't get the engine oil hot enough for long enough to evaporate all the crud that would get into the engine oil. bottom line; if you don't have a good long commute and want to keep your car for a while, WVO conversions probably aren't for you. buy BioD instead. cheers! e On 17/Jul/11 14:49, Curt Raymond wrote: I'm not opposed to WVO conversions per-say, I'm opposed to poor WVO conversions. Unfortunately it seems like the bulk of them are poor conversions. A boat gas tank in the trunk is a poor conversion, its the hallmark of a poor conversion as a matter of fact. A good conversion pre-heats the oil with engine coolant and then final heats electrically at the injection lines so the oil is hot hot when it goes into the injectors which ensures proper atomization, anything else is junk. Poor atomization is the real problem, IP killing is a secondary issue. Honestly Andrew, you don't drive enough to even consider it. I use ~ 15 gallons a week in a car that gets half again better mileage (190D 2.2l) so we can safely assume I drive more than twice as much as you. (around 30k a year) With WVO you won't be able to run on WVO all that much because you won't be getting the oil hot with your pre-heat plus you need a purge cycle before shutdown... I've been down this same road spec-ing out the idea, if I had a really easy source of lots of oil I'd consider WVO but I'd plan on $1000 at LEAST for my conversion. Then theres still that sticky paying road tax thing... -Curt Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 22:50:27 -0400 From: andrew strasfogelastrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Stop me before I buy a Biobuddy Message-ID: CAC35L=s4znX5nf-B3ntZ5OF=X6tN03-_6sNV7di=07fdbty...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I have seen a 1983 300D converted to a dual system run without any problems on WVO and regular diesel. If I did a conversion it would be to my other car, the 1983 300TD with 325K miles. But don't hold your breath... On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 10:32 PM, Walt Zarnochzarnoch...@gmail.com wrote: In my neck of the woods, the only way to buy a 617 is to wait for 3 years till one comes into a yard, buy a craigslist crackvertised car to strip then crush, or have one shipped in and pay big $$$. I guess that skews my perspective, but the viscosity difference is a real issue. The difference in HP needed to turn the pump can cause the injection advance mechanism on the intermediate shaft (behind vac pump) to not advance at it's set rate as well. It will run, you can drive, but I cringe whenever I see it done. It's up to the person doing it to evaluate what the time filtering, processing, etc is worth to them. I personally will pay the cash for the pre-made Bio or petro, since my time is worth more to me than the money going into the tank. You can always make more money. You can never make more time. Walt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Crush cars
Cool. Save two. Rick Sent from my iPhone On Jul 17, 2011, at 9:51 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: no but I have some 82 and 83's On 7/17/2011 8:44 AM, Rick Knoble wrote: Got any '85 300d's ? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] mods
andrew there are absolutely no mods on any of our three wvo vehicles aside from cleaning the tank i drained and somewhat cleaned the tank on daughter's 300d turbo and ran a polishing filtration by pumping wvo out of the tank and filtering it thru a whole house water filter and back into the tank for a couple of hours and did the same with the isuzu npr (the polishing) I've only driven the NPR about 1000 miles on grease thanks, xx rick Rick Hawkins www.javaphoto.com www.javacycles.com LETTERPRESSES FOR SALE www.ricktheprinter.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Top Gear
Did anybody catch last week's Top Gear? Jeremy bought a 9 year old CL600 for 7000 quid, with 120k on the odo. Richard bought a much older 850i for the same money, and they're going to run them a while and see if anything expensive goes wrong. I feel sorry for Hammond. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] WVO 300TD and 300D Turbo
Hasn't softened mine. Show me an objective study demonstrating that WVO doesn't increase wear vs #2 diesel, then you might interest me. Until then, I'm convinced that WVO is the fuel of choice for those who don't care about their engine. Max -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. Rick Hawkins Java macj...@aol.com wrote: Folks It's interesting to listen to the WVO and biodiesel discussions. This would have been heresy a few years ago, but 4 buck diesel has softened you people's hearts! My PERSONAL EXPERIENCE is that i've been running a 300TD (1982) on WVO for about the last 5 years. The car is unmodified. In my experience, the initial problem was all the petro diesel crud in the tank. The WVO cleans that out. Removing and cleaning tanks is probably the best way to start. On a 300TD you can drain the tank and remove and clean the strainer easily at any time that you have low (a few gallons) of fuel in the tank. I do that probably every 6 months on the 300TD. On a 300D it's a little harder since the fuel supply line is in the center of the strainer, but it's still not too bad, just messier. At any rate, i run 100% WVO down to temps of about 42 F (which is a lot of the time down here in north Georgia). If it's colder, i blend with petro diesel. A 50/50 mix will start and run at temps of say, down to about 35F and colder than that i sometimes add 1 gal RUG (reg unl gas) to a full tank. I've not been stranded. In the colder months, it's not uncommon for me to have to change the clear prefilter on the fuel line, but i generally don't change the spin on fuel filter any more often than every year or year and a half. I've driven the 300TD this way for probably 85,000 miles. About 10k miles ago, the car wouldn't start without starting fluid even when the temps for 50F or more. All the glow plugs, etc were good. I finally rebuilt the injectors with new monark nozzles at a cost of only about $100 and some time. As to the cost benefit ratio, the 300D turbo car (an extremely clean, nice running 1984 that i bought for our 17 year old daughter) only cost $1650. Remember this is a rust free georgia car!! In 8 months she's probably driven it 5000 miles. at 4 gals per 100 miles that's 200 gals of diesel at $4x200=$800 if my math is right. The scrap value of the car is $450 more or less, now, so this is pretty cheap driving!! It's a problem getting enough WVO these days. We only have a couple of restaurants that supply us, but i'm not paying for it. I'm about to advertise with Craig that i'm willing to buy nice clean WVO for something like 50 cents or more per gal. We filter by pouring the oil thru 55 gallon barrel top filters that are maybe 10 or 20 micron. Then we settle for a week or two and drain off settled out water, fat, etc and then we pump it through a 5 micron bag filter inside a filter housing. It's pretty clean, but could always be cleaner. To add to the mid, i just bought a lovely 1992 isuzu NPR truck. This is a 14 foot box, cab over truck such as most furniture stores have. It has a 4 cylinder indirect injection engine with a Kiki (licensed by Bosch) pump. It seems Isuzu made and direct injection engine up till about 91 then changed the head and added prechambers making it indirect until about 98 and then went back to direct injection in 99, i think. Their newer trucks are all direct and the newest stuff is quite electronically controlled. I was lucky to get this clean truck for $2500 it's probably worth $5000 now since we fixed the AC and added 4 new tires (CL $200 for a like new set of 4 ...they are same 16 inch tires as F250 or something, so common). The next project is to build a 2 tank heated WVO system which i'll do as soon as i find a nice tank of say 20 gals for petro diesel. Feel free to email me directly or call me 1 pm to midnite or later 706 540-3285 if you want to chat about this. As for the time investment, i laugh every time i load eight 5 gal jugs in my car for a longish trip, realizing that they would cost twenty bucks EACH if they were stinky petro diesel!! My 2 cents worth your results may vary and if you choose to do what i do, you do it at your own risk! thanks, xx rick Rick Hawkins www.javaphoto.com www.javacycles.com LETTERPRESSES FOR SALE www.ricktheprinter.com _ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] WVO 300TD and 300D Turbo
That is the prudent path. Plus it leaves more free WVO for the rest of us :-) The *last* thing I want is more competition for the primo oil. -Dave Walton On Jul 17, 2011, at 8:18 PM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Hasn't softened mine. Show me an objective study demonstrating that WVO doesn't increase wear vs #2 diesel, then you might interest me. Until then, I'm convinced that WVO is the fuel of choice for those who don't care about their engine. Max -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. Rick Hawkins Java macj...@aol.com wrote: Folks It's interesting to listen to the WVO and biodiesel discussions. This would have been heresy a few years ago, but 4 buck diesel has softened you people's hearts! My PERSONAL EXPERIENCE is that i've been running a 300TD (1982) on WVO for about the last 5 years. The car is unmodified. In my experience, the initial problem was all the petro diesel crud in the tank. The WVO cleans that out. Removing and cleaning tanks is probably the best way to start. On a 300TD you can drain the tank and remove and clean the strainer easily at any time that you have low (a few gallons) of fuel in the tank. I do that probably every 6 months on the 300TD. On a 300D it's a little harder since the fuel supply line is in the center of the strainer, but it's still not too bad, just messier. At any rate, i run 100% WVO down to temps of about 42 F (which is a lot of the time down here in north Georgia). If it's colder, i blend with petro diesel. A 50/50 mix will start and run at temps of say, down to about 35F and colder than that i sometimes add 1 gal RUG (reg unl gas) to a full tank. I've not been stranded. In the colder months, it's not uncommon for me to have to change the clear prefilter on the fuel line, but i generally don't change the spin on fuel filter any more often than every year or year and a half. I've driven the 300TD this way for probably 85,000 miles. About 10k miles ago, the car wouldn't start without starting fluid even when the temps for 50F or more. All the glow plugs, etc were good. I finally rebuilt the injectors with new monark nozzles at a cost of only about $100 and some time. As to the cost benefit ratio, the 300D turbo car (an extremely clean, nice running 1984 that i bought for our 17 year old daughter) only cost $1650. Remember this is a rust free georgia car!! In 8 months she's probably driven it 5000 miles. at 4 gals per 100 miles that's 200 gals of diesel at $4x200=$800 if my math is right. The scrap value of the car is $450 more or less, now, so this is pretty cheap driving!! It's a problem getting enough WVO these days. We only have a couple of restaurants that supply us, but i'm not paying for it. I'm about to advertise with Craig that i'm willing to buy nice clean WVO for something like 50 cents or more per gal. We filter by pouring the oil thru 55 gallon barrel top filters that are maybe 10 or 20 micron. Then we settle for a week or two and drain off settled out water, fat, etc and then we pump it through a 5 micron bag filter inside a filter housing. It's pretty clean, but could always be cleaner. To add to the mid, i just bought a lovely 1992 isuzu NPR truck. This is a 14 foot box, cab over truck such as most furniture stores have. It has a 4 cylinder indirect injection engine with a Kiki (licensed by Bosch) pump. It seems Isuzu made and direct injection engine up till about 91 then changed the head and added prechambers making it indirect until about 98 and then went back to direct injection in 99, i think. Their newer trucks are all direct and the newest stuff is quite electronically controlled. I was lucky to get this clean truck for $2500 it's probably worth $5000 now since we fixed the AC and added 4 new tires (CL $200 for a like new set of 4 ...they are same 16 inch tires as F250 or something, so common). The next project is to build a 2 tank heated WVO system which i'll do as soon as i find a nice tank of say 20 gals for petro diesel. Feel free to email me directly or call me 1 pm to midnite or later 706 540-3285 if you want to chat about this. As for the time investment, i laugh every time i load eight 5 gal jugs in my car for a longish trip, realizing that they would cost twenty bucks EACH if they were stinky petro diesel!! My 2 cents worth your results may vary and if you choose to do what i do, you do it at your own risk! thanks, xx rick Rick Hawkins www.javaphoto.com www.javacycles.com LETTERPRESSES FOR SALE www.ricktheprinter.com _ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
Re: [MBZ] Top Gear
Darn. Should have watched today's episode before saying that. Jeremy's CL already had a failed ignition coil, which apparently costs £878, or $1400. Hammond has had an entire week of trouble free commuting in the 850i. Mitch. Mitch Haley wrote: Did anybody catch last week's Top Gear? Jeremy bought a 9 year old CL600 for 7000 quid, with 120k on the odo. Richard bought a much older 850i for the same money, and they're going to run them a while and see if anything expensive goes wrong. I feel sorry for Hammond. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Top Gear
Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net writes: Darn. Should have watched today's episode before saying that. Jeremy's CL already had a failed ignition coil, which apparently costs £878, or $1400. Someone needs to tell him about Rusty. -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] New motor mounts bad?
Its true that dealer parts fail. I once had a rebuilt power steering pump leak more as soon as I put it on than the old one, but overall I've liked dealer parts better, especially rubber. More likely to get a newer revision part that's 100% what Mercedes wanted it to be. Brian On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 11:34 AM, Greg Fiorentino gf...@dslnorthwest.netwrote: The tranny mount was my guess as well. That drove me nuts on my 79 300TD after the engine mounts were done. Greg -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2011 7:51 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] New motor mounts bad? They are the same or very similar to the mounts on your 124. I am going to have to crawl up under there and look at them I suppose. I did discover I did not replace the tranny mount when I replaced the motor mounts so maybe that is it. On 7/17/2011 8:14 AM, LarryT wrote: Many have talked about the effects on Rubber and Age - but if your MMs are the same as on my 91 300D they are not the typical rubber mount but more of a hydraulic damper with a fluid container inside the metal shell that the engine rides on. Any signs of leakage? LarryT 91 300D -Original Message- From: Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2011 10:47 PM To: mercedes Mailing List Subject: [MBZ] New motor mounts bad? When I did all the engine work to my 92 300SD I replaced the motor mounts. They never did seem exactly smooth but every time I drive the thing its worse and worse. Today I drove it after finding both sets of keys that have been lost for a couple of months (one was in the drawer where they were supposed to be, the other was actually laying in the back seat of the car) and the thing just vibrates like crazy at idle like the mounts are completely colapsed. WTF? I have about 350 miles on these mounts, anybody ever seen bad mounts straight out of the box? Should I make Rusty send me new ones? -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 99 E430, 99 E320. 97 E300, 95 E300, 93 300D, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 90 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Top Gear
Allan Streib wrote: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net writes: Darn. Should have watched today's episode before saying that. Jeremy's CL already had a failed ignition coil, which apparently costs £878, or $1400. Someone needs to tell him about Rusty. What's worse was Jeremy is in UK, and with VAT it was more like £1200, or $1920. From Rusty's site it appears the coils come in right and left cassettes, so apparently Jeremy paid 200 quid each for a sixpack of coils. When I select a right or left coil set, Rusty's web engine has a buffer overrun from the large price, and then kicks me back to the 'engine electrical' page. I tried another supplier, and their cheap coil packs, from Standard Motor Products and Airtex, ranged from $1030 to $1229, plus shipping. Wow, I wouldn't want a V12. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Top Gear
Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net writes: Allan Streib wrote: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net writes: Darn. Should have watched today's episode before saying that. Jeremy's CL already had a failed ignition coil, which apparently costs £878, or $1400. Someone needs to tell him about Rusty. What's worse was Jeremy is in UK, and with VAT it was more like £1200, or $1920. Jeremy also isn't much of a wrench-turner. He's a car enthusiast for sure, but I don't think he's into DIY repair. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Top Gear
Allan Streib wrote: Jeremy also isn't much of a wrench-turner. He's a car enthusiast for sure, but I don't think he's into DIY repair. Which is why, when James put up a picture of Richard's 850 in the staff parking lot and asked where Jeremy's car was, Jeremy said 'someplace warm and dry'. He obviously called a lorry to haul it off to the shop. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
